She Wanted To Die! - Law & Order 

Literally! Old people when they’re near the end often stop eating themselves as well when they’re ready, my grandmother did that, she’d have a couple bites and feed the rest to the dog in secret. Everyone knew it was her time and that was her choice, but food kept being served to her in case she decided she wanted it.

and wouldn't have tried to solve her problems the karen way by attempting to deport the lady.

Yep. The granddaughter is full of sh*t

But according to the priest, not eating and so die was a mortal sin.

Getting us so intrigued that we think about it. That's what makes this such a great drama.

And even then, what kind of fucking mercy kill is _starvation_? I'd soon take a firing squad than starve to death, at least it'd be over quick

Starving to death is agonizing. Ibdont believe her this was a mercy killing. She could have done sleeping pill overdose or something else less torturous.

@@sumoni She wanted to be buried in holy ground, remember?

I kinda believe her because my grandma refused to eat at all after my grandpa died, she just didn’t wanna try anymore. I tried so hard to get her to eat it wasn’t until she fell down and went to the hospital that she finally got some help and started eating again.

There's one fact that isn't followed up on clearly. The carer stated that the grandmother "was so hungry".... If the grandmother had been refusing to eat, that would have suggested her complicity in her own demise; instead, it sounds like she was cleaning her plate and asking for more, which suggests something completely different. The granddaughter's last statement (before she was cut off) implies Grandma's wishes weren't consistent. Bottom line, the granddaughter used their religion to "fill in the blanks" and should be held responsible... She should take the two years.

I would argue that dying of starvation is a way no one wants to go. So cleaning the plate is more of a pleasure/fear thing than a sign of wanting to live.

@@fluidapple9091 That possibility doesn't justify the granddaughter removing any opportunity for the grandmother to have more food.

What about the water? We can live longer without food than water, and everyone gets thirsty.

@James Horton Hey, thanks for cluing everyone in to what they already know.

it might be THE most painful way to die...

It’s one of the most painful because it’s one of the most repairable. You starve and starve, all the while knowing there’s a grocery store right across the street. It’s like going on a diet. It’s hard because the “pain” can be stopped right there just if you take a bite of that pizza.

Yea my thoughts exactly

@Kenneth Saint no

@Kenneth Saint it’s a scam and virus

Which means the maid was telling truth, and the granddaughter was lying.

@@Tarotlynx or that the grandmom was ambiguous and very hungry, its hard to starve yourself hence the binge purge cycles og anorexic/bulemic

the problem was that the maid was only interviewed but was not able to testify in court or presented a written affidavit to support the prosecutor's argument

@@thomas261989 she testified in court

Deborah 78. Many people starve themselves when they are depressed! And if you watched the clip the grandmother asked the priest if it would be a sin to basically speed up the process of death without actually killing her self.

@@mariahmontgomery7423 ~ I saw the clip. But again, if the grandmother really wanted to die, she wouldn't have taken the extra food that the hispanic woman was giving her. Unfortunately, I've known people who have committed suicide, and none of them did it by starvation. If a person really wants to die, they do it as quickly, and painlessly as possible. The grandmother was in turmoil about her life, and I doubt she was sure of anything...

I happen to agree but then catholics.. It's different I guess, suicide is indeed an unforgivable sin, also and I don't want to stir up controversy, but suffering is a big part of catholicism, it's not something practicing catholics believe to be negotiable or avoidable

@@shanafehr ~ It's kind of true for many religions though. Suffering I mean. Catholics don't have the corner on "that" market. But I understand what you're saying...

@@Deborahtunes That is why you need the assistant. Asked anyone that has to go through severe diet. You don't want to eat but at the same time, sometimes it's so tough that you have to and always feel guilty about it after you ate :-(

Please, as though the NYPD will ever interact with anyone Hispanic other than to either arrest them or shoot them.

@@ajvanmarle the maid was actually deported because the granddaughter called ins on her before the police knew about the grandmas alleged “suicidal ideations”. So not a case of racism

They did, you idiot!

But she's young, white, pretty, rich, and female.

Also reporting the carer to ICE,,,,

Shows become stale when people stay too long.

I agree. Ben Stone was one of my favorite characters.

Garry Forbes maybe he was just breaking balls

Michael Moriarty is, unless something changed recently, in self imposed exile in Canada because he thought then-Attorney General Janet Reno was coming to get him because he said she was trying to censor L&O. That's an exaggeration, but that's the gist of why he left (conspiracy theory). Notice, executive producer Dick Wolf didn't agree with Moriarty, and this show was his baby. If Reno really was out to muzzle the show (which would be a slam dunk First Amendment case), Wolf would have made much more noise.

I love Ben Stone and this actor how incredible is he, so believable.

This is episode that talks about euthanisia,so it depends on the person

My grandfather was abused while he was in hospice care. He was at his weakest and the facility staff took advantage. Makes me sick what people do to their family...

As someone who has been suicidal most of my life, that is a selfish goddamn response. If anyone ever said that to me it'd make things worse. I also worked in a nursing home and saw the pain people suffered through, some of whom you get to a point you wish for death to take them every night because of how much they're suffering. People who can't walk, think, eat; people who do nothing but lay in bed all day and scream in pain and shit themselves. That life is awful; it's not living anymore just a soul trapped in a broken meat suit. Responding like that to someone who has lived a full life and is suffering is selfish and cruel. Her body, her life, her choice is valid. Just because it sucks for you that doesn't make it ok. How the fuck do you think she'd feel living in that state every damn day just to make YOU happy while SHE suffered.

@@jadescapade6573 I'm not saying she should have just gone on living, I was reacting to the fact the granddaughter couldn't think of *anything* to say to her in response. Her not giving *any* kind of meaningful response just seems so much worse.

@@Bojack727 Sometimes there just isn't anything .. what would YOU have told that old lady? Can you think of anything that woman had to live for that was for herself, and not just "because I love you and I don't want you to die"? She was old and had lived her life, that's just something that I believe is hard to understand for us until we get there ourselves.

You have a conscience….I truly think that granddaughter did not

I knew it!

Um did you actually watch the clip, she plead to a lesser charge and got 2 years.

Why do you find the need to spoil the clip? 🤔😏

@@Fusion008a that was literally the end

@@Fusion008a Um did you actually watch the entire episode?

Actually it doesn't say in the Bible that suicide can't be forgiven. All sins can be forgiven (including murder), except for one, which is "blaspheming the Holy Spirit," which some interpret as not not believing in God, or the Trinity, in Christianity's case.

@@geoculus5606 nods.. also depends on denomiation n version of the bible.. in this case Roman Catholic..

I think she means you literally cannot confess or repent if you are dead.

@@geoculus5606 droping knowledge... That interpretation of blasphemy against the spirit is right...

Religion and all of its many followers cherry picking and interpreting things to have different meanings.

But you must believe everything women say.

RonJohn63 leave me outa this

The state kindly gave her a bijou apartment for 2 years. And lovely new friends with similar interests. I hope she did not get the apartment on release.

@@RonJohn63 im assuming you're talking about the phrase 'believe women'. That doesnt mean you have to believe all women. It literally just means dont dismiss their words when they say they were sexually assaulted because it's hard to hear. Which is a common issue. The straw man argument of 'ha see! Women lie!' Is ridiculous.

@@ellielindsay8507 there's nothing in "believe women" which in any way shape or form means "believe *some* women *some* of the time". Believe Women means exactly that: believe women. Just like how "defund the police" means what it says: defund the police. www.nytimes.com/2020/06/12/opinion/sunday/floyd-abolish-defund-police.html

To get forgiveness you have to be truly sorry for what you've done ask God to forgive you and also forgive yourself. How can u do all that if u kill yourself.

@@miekaash6831 It's the worse sin because it is a sin against god. All the others are sins against humans. To believers that makes sense. To non-believers like me, it's ridiculous and horrific and irrational and inhumane. Btw two of your sins are commandments, so those are proscribed. But raping children didn't make the "Top 10" - I guess "don't take things" and "don't lie" were more important.

I have no idea what priests in the US are thinking. Here in Ireland it happens and there's no problem on the priests side. Sadly,suicide is on the rise and from sad personal experience,I can say that I've never heard of someone being refused by a priest for a burial. I'm not talking about years and years ago but only from my own experience,so since the 1970's. I'm not a practicing Catholic but I do acknowledge that a burial is important for the families of tragic loss.

smiles softly.. the technicalities of the Roman Catholic church..

Uhh since when? It seems you're jumping to conclusions without considering the reasons. How is the Priest awful? He buried her, you moron

well .. L&O is a scripted TV show, but based in TRUE facts that happened in real life

Truly a talented man

shawn murray maybe he was just breaking balls

Stephen Hill once said he had the easy job on the show. All he had to do each episode was to sit in his office, drink scotch and be sarcastic.

ha ha .. that's assuming you survive

Well, look what happened. Now he's a congressman and he looks 30 years younger than in this clip

This is why it's vitally important that everyone has an "end of life" statement written out and notarized WHEN THEY'RE STILL MENTALLY AWARE OF WHAT THEY'RE ASKING!! People who want their lives to be over after a certain point -- when their health is deteriorating, their minds are going or they're in uncontrollable pain with no hope of recovery -- need to have their preferences and wishes recorded and signed in advance. I have a Do Not Resuscitate form signed by my doctor and instructions for withholding food and invasive medical care in my medical files, and carry a copy of that form with me. I've seen what happens when relatives are determined to keep someone alive and force doctors to comply with their wishes. It's ugly, and not how anyone would choose to live out their final weeks or months.

Easy appeal win lol

Thank you. I was saying this to myself too. I'm not into law but LegalEagle has ruined a lot of trials on television for me lol.

@@joshualoreto3025 Yep. He's the reason I knew that new evidence bit was not accurate.

They can if they know it will change the outcome .. DUH

Evidence is always admissable during trial, the opposing side just has to have notice so they can prepare.

Probably to avoid copyright strikes, and YT is notoriously bad in that regard, relying on an automated system that's easily abused.

Many seniors don't want to "make trouble", first of all, including calling a doctor, etc. Second, many people of that age group buy burial plots before they need them.

yep .. based on mythology

Weakness to commit? Maybe this way she felt she had some separation to it. “I didn’t kill her the lack of food did that.” Pretty twisted person.

27 actually

It was filmed in 1993

It's Schiff. Adam Schiff.

Also wondered what repercussions this would have had on her ability to enter law school once she served her sentence?

Great Gonzous In that case we can commit all the sins we want and then when God comes we ask Him for forgiveness .

You can't. Hence why you won't be forgiven

I can't correct or make anymore playlists or complaint reports!

That wasn't as well established back then as it is today, but a DNR would've made the case a lot easier for all parties involved.

@@jungletrouble8296 Really? I mean I had relatives pass away in the late 90s and the early 2000s and they all had DNRs. (Albeit, this was in Canada. Are things really that slow in America?)