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I love how honest this channel is with talking about the car. Instead of trying to sugar coat and play into the carbon wheels you really just say it how it is. Appreciate the honesty. Many people can get a bit jaded by the price tag after the purchase and see things through rose colored glasses.
I have seen hundreds of car videos and this by far is the best angle I have seen in a video. The whole cabin and the road is visible with amazing stabilization in the video. Great job!
I am with you on the comments about how it depends where you live on whether or not it is worth it to have something like this. I live in the Orlando area. Sold my GT350 a few years ago as it just sat in the garage. Very few roads around here worth driving, and just a ton of traffic. Tired of dealing with that ad the tramlining all the time, so I sold it. Some days I miss it, but was right decision for me.
Have a whipple mustang here in Seattle. To much traffic. Need to go 40 miles to find anything decent to run. Then it's all Subaru foresters and bike racks.
Hey Phil Im in south PA. I have a 2019 GT350R(KR711). As far as the wheels I wanted to get a setup where I could drive the car on those cold sunny days when the roads were clear of snow and salt. I ordered a set of LMR SVE R350s as my winter/early spring set with a set of Michelin Pilot Sport All Season 4s. I went with 305s front and 325s rear. Discount Tire in Martinsburg WV took care of the transition flawlessly without any touchless mounters. Love the feel and the OEM look that it retains. No more tram lining whatsoever. Best 3000$ I spent. Thats less than half the cost of a CF wheel and tire!
yeah im surprised this happened since my other S550 cars never had this issue and I used those cars daily for years even in winter and bad weather. I ordered the part yesterday it cost $18
@Nick Crecelius treadwear, grip, responsiveness. The Cup 2's are a track day tire, they need a lot of heat to make them stick and not really suitable for the street. They wear extremely quickly.
Guys, the R is not a Daily Driver. This is a car you drive maybe 200 or 300 Miles a month. I live in Boston and the car is awesome. The Car is designed for the Sport Cup 2 Tires. Nothing else. Go buy a Base Automatic C8 if you don’t like the R. The GT350R is perhaps the greatest car on the planet.
those were the sizes the Tire Rack told me to do last year but I wasn't sure I would like the looks, can you shoot me a photo of your R with those on them. I got the 4S on today and WOW its a huge difference on the street the Cup2 made me dread driving the car around here. Once i put more miles on the car il have more feeback but so far it now feels like my 2017 GT350. I still love the look of the Cup2 with the smooth stretch sidewalls but the tradeoffs are simply not worth it.
@@autofanaticcars I did a deep dive on the subject, mostly on the GT350 section of the Mustang 6G forum. I believe it was Billy Johnson who recommended this setup for the street (he was one of the drivers involved in the development of the GT350/R). I use my Cup2 for the track, but otherwise, run the 10mm narrower PS4S on the street, and it's fantastic. I'll see if I can find a say to shoot over some pics from when I first changed them out in December of last year. edit: I just send a message via your site, reply and I'll be glad to send back pics of LR268 with the PS4S on her.
Wow Phil I can’t believe it’s already been two years of ownership for you on this car we were talking briefly on Instagram you thought I had one but I’m the guy with the Subaru flat six, it’s amazing what tires will do to a car when I jump from the OEM crappy bridgstones el400 piece of garbage to Michelin’s , it transformed the car anyway love your videos thanks.
Wow Phil I can’t believe it’s been two years of ownership already for you, we were talking on Instagram and you thought I had a GT 350 R I’m the guy with the Subaru flat six but anyway I still enjoy your videos!
tried that many times. I got the new part already and see there is lots of grease on the two section that go inside the door. Im wondering if maybe the grease wears out and causing the clunk its hard to tell but I will be changing the part later this week
Totally agree I own a 20’ 500 with the 4s tires and they are great my 20’ 350 heritage with cup 2’s is a death trap when it’s a cool morning. I’m to the point where I do a quick rolling burnout leaving my house now when it’s 30-40 degrees out. It’s like your on ice with those but I do like them when it’s warm
Phil I live on Long Island, ordered and bought a 19GT350R (KR072) at sticker. Love your videos. It's the most amazing car I've ever owned. First thing I did was get a set of PS4S (305/325) on a copy of the GT350R wheels (GR6). The car is fantastic! At Road Atlanta I hit 171 mph on the back stretch on the PS4S tires. The Carbon Fibre wheels are on a shelf in my garage - couldn't stand the SC2s. Don't ever sell the 350R - you'll never get another car like it. Not the GT500, not a Corvette, not even a GT3 Porsche. Every once in a while a car manufacture its the mark so perfectly, it can't be duplicated. Like my 67 Supercnharged Shelby GT350, 70 Boss 302, 73 Pantera, 86 SVO, 13 Boss 302 Laguna Seca, and finally the 19 Shelby GT350R. The 5 year limited run production is the first clue that only a few savvy enthusiasts will ever get this opportunity. And you were the first owner! I'm truly biased to Mustangs and exotic Fords, but there's no denying the voodoo powered GT350R is one of Ford's true gems regardless of price or future value.
the car is too good!!! bought my R before the the world fell apart ...only 1000 miles on it ....never gonna sell it i wouldnt know what to buy to replace it
yeah its a great car, one thing I forgot to mention in this video was I really love the B&O stereo as i am a huge music lover and enjoy that when I go on long drives. I still want to replace the front seats with the Sparco soon.
Thanks Phil, I believe the 4s’ still have temperature limitations. The compound is similar to the Cup2’s. I looked into them as well to replace my tires. Looking forward to the mods and good luck with your back issues! 🐍
I did videos on the 4s years ago on my red GT350 and i was blown away how awesome they were even in freezing temps. I finally got them on my car yesterday and all I can say it is night and day on the street so far. the Cup2 made my car so dreadful to drive around here and now I was out last night at midnight driving and at 6am this morning already which i have not done since i have my red Shelby GT350
@@autofanaticcars Nice. You can now enjoy the car a little more. I have to pick up a set. Our roads are really terrible here as well. Thanks again for the nice (2) year review. I’m just over a year in with mine and I love this car! Best Regards 🐍
I love it when you say you drive yours cars regularly. The are meant to be driven and enjoyed. We are moving back, from Germany to Florida, and I'm looking for a regular GT350 because of the kids. It will be a companion car for my "13 GT500. When they are ready our boys will get the cars. I think I will sell my Ducati D16RR as my days of leaning over the tank are gone. I too have lower back issues from a work injury years ago.
5:00 You don't need to track your car to enjoy it, find your local autocross club, buy an extra set of tires and wheels and you are good to go. Autox is safe, challenging to get competitive times, a lot of fun, not very expensive and you don't need to be in top shape physically to do it.
I did a few autocross way back when i was younger I just was not a fan of waiting around all day to make 1-2 passes in a parking lot so quickly while the entire day was wasted just waiting around since these events get so crowded.
I just put 305/30 , 315/30 ps4s on mine and wow did it change the ride. No more tram lining and smoother ride. I do agree with a slightly “chunkier” look, as well as increase wheel gap (although the car is technically lowered with the sidewall change), but I’m still happy, and im probably only one who would notice that change.
Hi Phil - great video as always. Had good luck with DBCarbon on my 997. They're in Germany. Could likely buy a part and have it shipped directly to him. He's about 10 weeks out last I heard. Just an option.
The 350R is track use regular 350 is for street driving and car and coffee and some back road driving love the channel love the car I guess bc I don’t own the car I don’t get it but all the complaints you have are bc the car is set up for the track. The standard 350’with mag ride Have a very compliant ride maybe u can trade your 350R in for a 350 swap with a dealer or sell the R get a 350 and walk away with 15-30 grand in your pocket to customize your 350 how u want or towards the Z06
My 2017 GT350 was very modified with the suspensions and wheels and tires and I daily drove it for 3 years even in winter snow watch the channel I have so many videos on the red GT350. the biggest comfort issue was the Cup2 tires now they are off the car and its enjoyable to drive again. next up is swapping the seats if i can get them
Great and helpful video, I have question: I have a 19’ 350R and I want to replace the tires, the only tires available in my region is 305/30/19 , can I install the 305 on the rears?
Love these videos. I purchased a Race Red 2016 GT PP and all my mods have been per your feedback on parts. From the BMR Race Springs, 19x11” wheels front & rear to tires. Please keep the content coming, would really like to see you install the new seats. Also, in one of your previous videos you spoke of the paint correction on the 350R. Do you plan on uploading those videos? I want to do the same to mine, really like your informational videos on cleaning and detailing. Thanks 👍🏻
Hi Ryan I did do a bunch of paint correction videos on the GT350R I did post some clips on my IG feed but the audio got all messed up and I gave up trying to fix it. this winter I plan to redo the car anyway because I did not get good results from the Cquartz UK coating I applied so I need to painstakingly polish it off completely and I may try a Kamikazze coating or omit a coating and stick with a hybrid wax and use my Auto Fanatic 007 Ceramic for upkeep which seems to work awesome as it does on all my cars.
If I remember correctly, the decals are done by Ford the day it gets picked up to go to the dealership. Because I remember when I was at Ford detailers complaining how to fix it.
whomever did my stripes looks like they tried learned using my car i swear it was awful. I have spoken to so many other R owners over the years and some said the dealers do them others said the factory but all I know is i plan to redo mine in a few weeks time.
I bet my stripes look worse buddy. Yours are white and we all know how white hides flaws. Mine are blue and look horrible. With that said I'm willing to look past the stripes. The fender to door alignment is my biggest issue. Most GT350's I've seen in person have one bad looking side and one good looking side for whatever reason. Both drivers and passengers side panel alignment looks like a blind person on their first day on the job did it. Literally! I know it's a mustang and that's all part of the car and blah blah blah, but it's bad. Really bad. Stripes you say? I can live with the stripes.
The clunk is probably the door check . It was all the old Chrysler Intrepids that started those things I think it was. I used to change a ton of them at the dealer.
yes i replaced the part already took me 15 minutes and $33 for the part. surprised it failed on this car since i barely drive it and have such low miles.
exactly so far i put 77 miles on the Shelby GT350R with the new tires and all I can say is Wow. I will have a full impressions video next week. its cold and rainy now and they bite with confidence.
Those PS4S tires will transform your driving experience. I replaced stock Goodyear’s on my ‘14 GT500 which were dangerous for street driving. The PS4S made the car enjoyable and safe. Hook up great - I can actually punch 2nd and 3rd without going sideways. Obviously different cars - but my point being, if they’re managing the torque of the GT500 - they should be excellent for the GT350.
so far it truly transformed the GT350R I have been driving all weekend on the new tires. I will have a follow up video soon once i get a few more miles/
I have a 2017 Gt350 non R. My door sounds like twisting metal when I accelerate. I put the pads that you mentioned and they squeal when cold most of the time. I have the Ford Performance springs on it and it looks and handles way better. Still love the car. For the seat I think you just need more ass lol 🤣. Thanks for the content 👍
Good video. NYC area is brutal for low cool looking sports cars. the Shelby GT350 values are TANKING these past few months. now, you can get one for $45k to 50K.
Phil, if you were to sell to take advantage of today's market on these, what would you buy without having to go extreme and spend an extra 50k+ for a gt3 as you mentioned, with somewhat close to similar experience? Would Mach 1 be an option and call it a day, pocket the rest for a different kind of market?
the Mach 1 is a cool car but it seems you can get those in various specs, some are done with the Recaro race seats and Cup 2 tires and others are toned down a bit. It could be a good option or a ZL1 and I will be honest the ZL1 chassis is far better than the S550 platform but a good margin. My cousin has a nicely modded E92 M3 and il be honest it is freaking awesome but when things break it can get very costly to own
Just a thought about those front wheels..maybe try a non stick coating like duraslic or perhaps a dry film lubricant (once you figure out how to get them clean in the first place) best of luck!
i spoke to the manufacture and they 100% prohibit any coating or protection on the wheels. I hate the white texture because rocks get caught in between the caliper and inner barrel and ruin the caliper paint and chip the white inner texture finish. horrible design if you ask me.
Great video! I recently just tracked my 2020 GT350R for the first time a few weeks ago, and I was super impressed with the grip of the Cup 2'S, I am curious to find out how many track events till I will need to replace them...I don't daily my R, however it sounds like the roads are a lot worse in your area than ours in SoCal. All that matters is what works for the owner of the car and makes you happy! Beautiful car!
if you track the R you will be burning up those Cup2 often and they are not cheap. I got the 4S on the car now and its awesome on the street I will be doing a video next week sharing feedback with you guys on the tire swap and my thoughts overall.
@@autofanaticcars I tracked my 2020 GT350R on 4S tires and I've been amazed by the grip and longevity. They still have a tendency to aquaplane more than I'd like with standing water, but I just have to take extra care
Curious what tires you’re thinking to go with. For what you’re wanting out of the car, I’d suggest something with a softer sidewall. The Conti Extremecontact Sport is probably a solid choice for what you’re looking for. The Michelin Pilot Sport 4S is also a good choice, but for you, might not be #1 as they are just a touch more on the “performance” side up from the Conti. Both are very similar, but the Conti edges a touch more for daily driving and rougher roads. If you want something that is more all-season, hands down look at the Conti ExtremeContact DWS 06+. Having wide wheels and the scrub on such cars as the GT350, it’s going to be hard getting away from the tramlining. Have you tried less camber up front? If you stay something -2.0 or under it can help. You definitely want zero toe or just very slightly toe in (like 1/16 or ~0.2-degree total).
I got the 4S on the car for a week so far and Love it. huge difference in street use so far. I will have an update video on this next week after i rack on more miles.
Going with the ITB intake would MAYBE get you more RWHP but you’d lose a crazy amount of tq. But the sound would be glorious and your car would stand out even more.
if tuned right the 8 stack will make more hp ad torque but its all in how it is set up with the throttle body sizes, lengths of the plenum etc. We put these kits on 427W and they made when tuned on the dyno an extra 60+hp and a tad more torque and the sound is insane at WOT
Great video. I sold my Cup 2s the day I picked up my 2020 R Heritage Edition. I put on the 4s per the fitment recommendation of Ford Factory driver Billy Johnson--295/30/19 Front, and 305/19s in the rear. Perfect fit, and look and perform great too, and with no tramlining (largely too because the 2020 Rs have the GT500 steering knuckle). Acura dealers that sell the NSX are required to have those very expensive tire changing machines for the carbon wheels of the NSX--so that is where I go. Sorry you have such crappy roads--here in Park City--the roads are really good. Thanks for all your posts.
the Cup2 suck i wish I could sell my original tires. I have them tucked away just in case of resale one day if anyone wants the original dated tires. I honestly should have done the sizes you have over a year ago but I was hopeful they would come out with the OEM rears and finally they did. If you can email me some photos of your car with those sizes id like to see the look.
I have a non R GT350 with obviously a different tire and suspension set up than the R model. I did have serious tram-lining with the MPSS tires. I had the car aligned after the inner shoulders of the front tires got destroyed, well before the tires should have been replaced. The tram lining decreased significantly with only a slight loss in the front feeling as planted.
so far 100+ miles with the Michelin Pilot 4S and the car is night and day and I can actually enjoy it. I even drove in cold temps and rain. Il have a tire feedback video up soon once i get more miles on the car.
So I have an SS 1LE, and the back rest wouldn't recline very much. Luckily I discovered a seat mod that allowed me to fix. Ton of elbow grease though. I wonder if there are any seat mods out there for yours?
If ur seats are leather the heater in the seat shrink up the interior and whatever chemicals you put on will make it shrink faster you will start noticing cracks...just leave that heater off...source: im an autouphosterly guy
I have them on my car as of yesterday in the OEM correct sizes. they are almost impossible to get now with the supply shortages going on my set took me 5 months to get so if you want to do this route try to order them ASAP and be patient. the front tires are in stock the rears are the ones that are the issue to get.
I have a 2020 GT350R purchased new 10/2019. My driving habits are the same as you. All street and some spirited backroads. It has about 3700 miles on it. Wondering when to replace the brake fluid? I have no issues with the brakes (other than crazy brake dust with stock pads). Your thoughts?
Kind of a different subject...... but I need your opinion on gt350 springs and sway bars. Non R. If I remember... you ran bmr springs. I'm in Alabama and the roads are pretty decent. Thanks in advance.
Hi Brian I had the BMR on my red GT350 and they are awesome springs but not great for my driving roads. I also did not love that the BMR springs did not lower the front enough and it kinda looked weird on my car i thought. I just put the Ford Performance GT350 Magneride springs and absolutely LOVE them. My video might be posted tonight so stay tuned and watch it as I discuss them. it truly made me love the car all over again on the streets i drive on.
thats an easy swap the issue with a late model car is integrating the stand alone ECU with the factory ECU for all the safety and functions of the car thats what nobody has tackled or even attempted yet
I'm thinking of buying MY 19/20 but I'm really afraid that even if I take care of the car and especially the engine and it will receive the best care, even though the engine may be destroyed due to a manufacturing issue ..... gt350 price in my country is about 110k USD and that is the price for example cayman gts 4.0, ZL1, BMW M2 CS ........ when I try to find information about the chances of this happening, it seems to be a common problem ..... do you have any advice or information can help me? thank you :-) and by the way: D you live my dream
I agree i have had them on my R since Friday and drove all weekend its an awesome street tire but not as sharp as the Cup2 but the tradeoffs for me are ok. Il discuss this in an upcoming video.
If you're looking for an extra little bump in power, just get headers and a Lund Racing tune for the car should pick up around 30 wheel horsepower and you'll get much more throttle response instead of being a test mule for some weird company trying to tune 8 throttle bodies and 8 MAF sensors. Edit: I see it's one MAF sensor on the Coyote kit but still, you're much better off with just a tune and the fact it honestly just isn't worth the time and the money to invest in a super niche motor with an even more obscure fuel injection system. Unless you go full racecar with MOTEC or something like that I don't think it's possible with these engines especially keeping the VCT intact.
@@autofanaticcars with cats, of course. There’s still power to be made, and the tune alone can add power and the only people I would trust to tune that engine, it’s Lund. They know these things inside and out, and will give you performance and reliability/driveability.
I have installed some American Racing and Kooks on customers cars they can be a bitch to install but worth it for sure. winter project idea you gave me
A lot of switching stuff out... And changing it back. Stop blowing money. Get a real world tire like continental extremecontact plus or sport and call it a day. I would also get gt350r replica aluminum wheels or something along those lines due to the insane price tag on the factory wheels.
If anyone can tune independent throttle bodies for a voodoo it would probably be lund. I have also thrown that Idea around because I am sure it would sound rediculous!
the engine tuning is not the issue it is integrating this into the rest of the OEM electronics and safety systems that is the challenge that nobody I have spoken too since 2017 is willing to even attempt because of the headaches involved.
I have installed many Inglese systems on 427 motors and LS motors the issue with doing this on a late model car is the electronics and can bus system I have spoken to so many tuners and engineers and they all say it cant be done without massive time and money to develop it. The way it would need to work is a stand alone ECU would need to control the engine and the factory ECU would need to control the rest of the car with the engine parameters blocked out to still function. the hardware does bolt right on it is the electronics as the bottleneck of me doing it and I think by now so many others would have done this to their cars. I hope to find or get someone who is willing to tackle it I think it would make this car even more special.
If an upgraded ECU is required as well, the only tuner I recall providing a Mustang specific solution is Fathouse Performance. They specialize in the MoTec M150 ECU.
If you want 30 real horsepower fill up with 100+ octane. The GT350R will adjust to the octane. Real deal, no kidding my brother works for FP. I called BS when he told me this. So I tried it with my 2019 GT350R, it works…..
I actually have tried race gas and it does run way better there is a Sunoco in NJ right over the bridge that has race fuel and I go with my VP fuel jugs but traffic these days is murder so it is not worth the effort now. The ethanol and other crap in gas is horrible for performance cars over time.
@@autofanaticcars yes it’s awesome how you can hear the car advance the timing and up the idle. I will never sale my 2019 GT350R, it’s the perfect blend of American V8 and European RS coupe. Amazing vehicle!!!
Just bought a Mach 1 with handling package. I already ordered PS 4S. Like the Corsa tire on the Alfa, these are tires for lap times and bragging rights for the MFG. Not appropriate for a driver.
the Corsa tires ruin all enjoyment on the streets around here it was that harsh, so far the new tires are a dream and I finally am enjoying the car again had it out all weekend
Cup2 are awesome tires but not on NYC busted roads its just awful, so far love the 4S on the street and there is some trade off in steering and handling that i need to accept until I move out of the NY area in a few months
my issue is the seat angle and i need the front seat lowered. we compared the seats from the GT350R and my Alfa QV and the angle is about 15 degree different and the Sparco seat is about 3 inches lower up front
I had a GT350 since 2017 prior to ever starting this channel and it was the reason I did start it. Love the car but in the last few years our roads have gotten more destroyed and me having a physical injury from last summer are the cause of the comfort issues for me. the tire swap has made a tremendous difference so far. Been driving all day and very little pain today.
Im lucky to be able to even get regular fuel the way things are going around here lately. Big Govt wants to kill all petrol for boring EV yet our country does not have the infrastructure to support that.
@@autofanaticcars Unfortunately the President is going after gas powered cars is part of the reason I sold my Corvette. Now I am down to two cars. I think sometime in the not too distant future there will be a program like “Cash for gassers” or something like that. I didn’t want to get stuck holding the gas powered bag. Another reason was I was getting speeding tickets in the town I live in, they do aggressively enforce the rules, once I am out of my town things ease up. When I sold in June I got a pretty good price for my car which does help.
Biden regime needs to fuck off ! Every time I see a car broken down it’s a Tesla or it’s an old rat ! The highways in the winters will have many battery dead vehicles and as you said infrastructure 10-15 years away follow the money their all corrupt! I just bought an R this week 4300 mi 2017 magnetic!
trust me I completely understand that aspect considering where I live. the traffic and congestion now is beyond unbearable since 80% who took buses and trains are now on the roads driving and its very hard to enjoy anything around here unless you hit the roads at certain times of the day which is what I try to do otherwise id go insane. What did you replace your car with?
@@autofanaticcars please don't laugh. Mach-e GT. I have a 18 month old little guy so I need a car that's fun, fast/quick, practical, safe, and efficient. It'll be arriving at the dealer hopefully in mid December.
the manufacture said it would cause the carbon to fail i spoke to them many times on the front barrels. this winter I am sending them out to get dry ice blasted and I might do Carbon Ceramic Brake conversion then problem solved for good
just giving honest feedback you obviously do not live around here to experience these busted up roads or have physical injuries that prevent you from enjoying your car. ever since i replaced the tires and springs the car is a pleasure to drive now
yeah I regret selling the red car however the blue one has gone up quite a bit so thats awesome to have enjoyed it for 2 years, designed and made products to sell and increase in value.
I want to see the 4S tires. I’m thinking of doing the same thing. OH roads probably not much better than NY. Also curious on the tire shop experience. My local shop knows what each rim costs, and would be careful but still makes me nervous. Keep the 350 vids coming. I enjoy them!