i am literally in love with this scene and everytime when i watch i cant stop my tears. I can feel toni's love and shelby's regret in their faces. I hope they will get back together again in season 3. And I'm not saying this because I like them, but really, both mia and erana are such very good actors. I hope we see them both in better projects.
In her dream, Shelby was disowned by her parents after coming out. She makes a living for years as a singer. Mostly at bars and nightclubs. She sings the music of pain. Then one night, Toni shows up. She has to reconsider her lineup choices. Happy songs.
@@anakinizboring I guess they wanted to show the viewers that Shelby dreams of Toni regardless of what happened. Also, hint at Gretchen and Shelby have some kind of connection in regards to the experiment.
@@hollywoodwerewolf ahhhh ok. that makes a lot of sense. so I'm assuming this is a hypothetical in terms that if Shelby had come out to her extremely religious parents, fell in love w/ Toni at a bar while singing this absolutely beautiful yet tragic song, this is what would happen or a "What If" moment, right? I seriously cannot get this song out of my head. so beautiful yet sad.
@@anakinizboring I don't think this moment would be a "what if situation" in the case of "what if we had never come to the island but met in a bar". It's much more about "what could happen after the island". Shelby is probably dreaming of a future where Toni forgives her for what happened on the island and that they can be together again. You can clearly see that they already know each other. What I also find worth mentioning is that this scene is exactly the opposite of what we saw in season 1. In season 1 Shelby is competing in a beauty pageant and has to be perfect in every way (Which you can see by her perfect clothes and perfect hair) Here she is crying out of guilt and sadness. Her father sits in the audience and watches her skeptically. He is the person for whom she has to be perfect and has to pretend to someone else in order to be loved. In this scene in season 2 she is much freer. She performs in a bar, not because she has to, but because she wants to, and she performs songs that express her feelings and her true self. Something she was never allowed to do in the past (her clothes and hair are also much "wilder"). In the audience now sits Toni, who loves and accepts her for who she is. Through her, she has learned that she does not have to be perfect to be loved. Shelby cries out of relief and joy when she sees her. Later we see her in the dressing room with Gretchen, who gives her a choice, and shortly afterwards Shelby wakes up and screams into her pillow out of despair. This all implies that Shelby is one of the spies Gretchen has planted among the teenagers and Shelby doesn't seem really happy about it, but also doesn't seem to have had a better choice. All in all, the scene shows how much the relationship with Toni has changed Shelby and how much freer she has become as a result. At the same time, it also shows how much Shelby loves Toni and wants them to get back together, but doesn't believe that this might happen because of the arrangement she has with Gretchen. (or she still thinks Toni would never forgive her for what happend to martha.)
Lyrics: Operator, number please It's been so many years Will she remember my old voice While I fight the tears? Hello, hello there, is this Martha? This is your old friend Meet me out for coffee Where we'll talk about it all And those were the days of roses, poetry and prose And, Martha, all I had was you, and all you had was me There was no tomorrows, we'd packed away our sorrows And we saved them for a rainy day I guess that our being together Was never meant to be And Martha, Martha I love you, can't you see? And, there was no tomorrows, we'd packed away our sorrows And we saved them for a rainy day
i've been watching this video every single day for 3 months, if i don’t, i’m having a shitty day… i miss them sm and the fact that I won't be able to see them again is so painful and heartbreaking 😭
This is so good. It actually stands on its own. A mini movie that tells a complete story in two minutes. To date: 32,745 views and half of them are mine! LOL
They’re both are beautiful and talented actresses! ❤️ love their chemistry so much. This was a very emotional scene, really wish it was real with no gretchen in it, oh we better have a shoni endgame. Mia sang this song so well tbh!
I loved this scene but after listening to the original song carefully I started to worry that the creators were trying to hint at us about Toni and Shelby's relationship. I hope they will be together at the end and not separate them from us ... because this song describes a disappointed love. "Operator, number, please It's been so many years Will she remember my old voice While I fight the tears? Hello, hello there, is this Martha? This is old Tom Frost And I am calling long distance Don't worry 'bout the cost 'Cause it's been forty years or more Now Martha please recall Meet me out for coffee Where we'll talk about it all And those were the days of roses Poetry and prose and Martha All I had was you and all you had was me There was no tomorrows We'd packed away our sorrows And we saved them for a rainy day And I feel so much older now And you're much older too How's your husband? And how's your kids? You know that I got married too? Lucky that you found someone To make you feel secure 'Cause we were all so young and foolish Now we are mature And those were the days of roses Poetry and prose and Martha All I had was you and all you had was me There was no tomorrows We'd packed away our sorrows And we saved them for a rainy day And I was always so impulsive I guess that I still am And all that really mattered then Was that I was a man I guess that our being together Was never meant to be And Martha, Martha I love you can't you see? And those were the days of roses Poetry and prose and Martha All I had was you and all you had was me There was no tomorrows We'd packed away our sorrows And we saved them for a rainy day And I remember quiet evenings Trembling close to you"
@@anakinizboring This is the opening scene of episode 8, right after Toni and Shelby break up. The scene is a dream Shelby has while she is sleeping in her dorm room after they get off the island. I assume this is how she sees herself in the future, away from her family and making money by performing at bars, and in this moment her and Toni meets apparently for the first time in a long time. After her performance Shelby asks Toni to meet her backstage in five minutes, but afterwards when Shelby is waiting for Toni and someone is outside her door, it appears to be Gretchen and the reality suddenly kicks in and she wakes up.
that part when shelby finishes singing and shes to toni like ,,5 minutes’’ and tonis like okay and ,,👍’’ really confusing me. shelby said she lost them and crying when she see toni so it was obvious to me they are not in each other lifes anymore and sudennly ‘talks’ to her like theyre budies idk maybe these gestures was for someone else if so why toni was like approved lol and acting like it was to her after song she was totally normal either i mean ahhh during the song she is suprised she sees toni and crying while looking at her and after she’s with her like !friends and like nothing happned just a seconds ago… could someone tell me what tf is happening, maybe im just dumb 🙃
It turns out its just a dream. Which baring in mind the situation shelby is in when the dream is over, pretty much manifests from all that. Saying about losing them both, im assuming her best friend becca as one of them (though not entirely sure on that) and losing toni (through them breaking up on the island before they got off it). In the dream i think its just as simple as that toni happens to track her down and find her at a bar, hence how shelbys face lights up when she sees her in the crowd. A chance for a reunion after shes finished, hence saying to give her 5 minutes. And then cruelly stolen by gretchen turning up in her dressing room and asking her to choose. This part of the dream of course resembles whatever conversations have been had, or deals been made, between gretchen and shelby since the girls have been off the island and in the bunker.
This is a cover of a Tom Waits song called "Martha" about two people who were lovers when they were young but went on to marry different people, but he tries to get in touch with her after 40 years because he's still in love with her after all that time.
When it shows the whole crowd, you can not tell me the guy in the middle with the white top and blue cardigan/coat with the light illuminating him is not Chris Hemsworth.
