Shell Spirax synthetic transmission fluid demo

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Shell used a specially designed transparent gearbox to demonstrate that, within the same timeframe, for both cold starts and fully warmed up conditions. Shell Spirax S6 synthetic oil lubricates all the critical parts of the gearbox while the mineral based oil lubricates the gearbox much less evenly.
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@joeedwards9721 2 года назад

I've had a garage for 30 years, I remember rep's from oil and addative companies used to come around with see through perspex gearboxes you could turn by hand and demonstrate how much better their product clinged to the gears whilst turning etc, they became very reluctant to empty these demo box's and let me fill them with oil from my workshop...

@fred5191 2 года назад

Notice how at the start of the video they said they blended oil to have the viscosity of their new synthetic oil and compared it to mineral oil. Basically they're not demonstrating their new oil at all just a mixture of better ones

@railgap 2 года назад

Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from a rigged demo.

@michaelcohen9363 2 года назад

@@railgap Wrong.

@1234567890CAB Год назад

@@fred5191 It was a demonstration of how the fluid's viscosity would behave at cold temperatures without having to chill the whole apparatus. The oils weight is it's viscosity at operating temperature, in other words the two different oils should have the same viscosity at operating temperature. The gearbox or engine manufacture determines what weight to put in it by calculations with a fluid at that expected viscosity. One of the benefits of synthetic fluid is that the viscosity is much more stable over a wider range of temperature, which means the cold synthetic is much closer to operating viscosity than the cold conventional or conventional thickens up more with the same drop in temperature. What they are claiming is that they measured their synthetic fluid viscosity at cold temps and measured conventional viscosity at cold temps. Then they mixed the demo fluids to match those measured viscosities.

@bud7707 3 года назад

This music is pretty intense for what’s. Going on 😅

@BixbyConsequence 3 года назад

That period is pretty intense punctuation for the middle. Of a sentence.

@SanjanaRanasingha 3 года назад

😂

@mohammednsour7212 2 года назад

It is very great

@thingsyouhavemissedoutonti8185 2 года назад

Marketing strategy, mate. Marketing strategy. 😂👍🏼

@vbarna4012 2 года назад

Yes! Anybody know the title of the music? I would like to listen it in my car :D

@DarrenBoxhall 2 года назад

The large gear might not have had a full film build, but the smaller one was definitely completely covered and would have lubed up everything fine

@nelsonmacharia9727 2 года назад

Glad you saw that too!

@splagyetsi3287 2 года назад

The mineral type oil takes longer to fully lube-up but would that extra second of slow speed start-up engagement actually wear the gear a significant amount? I doubt it would make a difference to the life of the box. Sure if this low-lube situation remained all the time then yes there would be noticeable wear.

@Sandwich420 2 года назад

Well when one side is dry and the other is lubed, it will still cause premature wear.

@bobbydemondukes 2 года назад

See you guys in another 8 years in RU-vid recommendations 🤣💩

@DarrenBoxhall 2 года назад

@@Sandwich420 one dry gear meshing with a fully lined gear would be considered lubricated.

@TheBlaert 6 лет назад

A good synthetic oil is worthwhile, especially if the gearbox type is known for problems. I had various Rovers with the R65 gearbox for hillclimbs and sprints and went through probably 4 or 5 gearboxes. Never had a single problem after I changed to synthetic oil

@ThisIsGoogle 2 года назад

Learn to drive guy

@TheBlaert 2 года назад

@@ThisIsGoogle learn to drive? The R65 gearbox was notorious for self destructing. Especially if the engine it was attached to was tuned... So yeah nothing to do with learning to drive "guy"

@ThisIsGoogle 2 года назад

@@TheBlaert Whatever you say bud. Keep racking up those miles to work, one day you will be a racedriver.

@TheBlaert 2 года назад

@@ThisIsGoogle what are you trolling about. I am a racedriver. If you could read you would see the words hillclimb and sprint in my initial post. Dickhead.

@xingxanghanji6583 2 года назад

@@TheBlaert 🤣🤣that dickhead tho, after all those polite statements, lmfao. Anyways, leave him dude, he's a troll

@ccanaves 8 лет назад

So they are comparing a 5w-30 oil with a SAE 30... that's like comparing oranges to apples. If they wanna show "the benefits of synthetic oil" at least show 2 oils with the same viscosity.

@joshuacornell6667 7 лет назад

You do know that the W in 5W does not imply Weight it means Winter and its more viscous as shown in the temp test, Both are grade 30 and from what I seen in the coverage of lubrication. rather would go with Shell Spirax instead of mineral.

@ccanaves 7 лет назад

Joshua Cornell It's still comparing apples to oranges. Yes, the viscosity after the oil has warmed up might be "similar" but a 5-30 is NOT the same as a straight 30 when hot. Not even close. The 30 is way more stable and has different properties, but it's much heavier when "cold".

@joshuacornell6667 7 лет назад

Yeah I get the comparison but in terms of coating evenly I prefer the Spirax, currently watching the Cool Running video of the higher grades As for the Mineral with its lack of coverage at points will lead to gear failure due to stripping or seizing. But I do agree with you they are not using a single 30 with the Spirax.

@ccanaves 7 лет назад

I'm not saying it's bad or not to use it, actually I use spirax on my Xterra too (rear and front diff, and gearbox and transfer case), I like the oil. Was just stating that they should have used an equivalent oil in the test.

@joshuacornell6667 7 лет назад

Nice to know you're using it and yeah I am wondering the similarities if both were 30 and the Spirax not being a 5W grade in addition. I did enjoy they made this clear gearbox to show the difference in viscosity and lubrication. Having watched the heat difference video also helps to show the difference in two different grades of the same product. Any leaking issues as another comment says will happen with "thinner" grades? I myself know nothing is 100% Perfect in every way and even thick oils leak out due to a bad or failed seal.

@seekter-kafa 2 года назад

i love it when they say 'typical' like every oil is the same, and all oils are compared to 'typical'... i would like 3 liters of typical, please

@auroraaa._. 2 года назад

We watched a 3-minute ad from Shell, voluntarily 😂

@Agm1995gamer 2 года назад

I'll probably never buy this product but it's always nice seeing these mechanical infromative videos.

@tteuvky Год назад

why you will never buy?? they are claiming as a best product. so why ??

@RandgriZ04 2 месяца назад

@@tteuvkybecause she cannot use it.

@rashad9014 2 года назад

Very nice unbaised comparison!! You are comparing a synthtic gear oil (over 90% of trans oils in market are synthetic) with a very rare hard to find mineral gear oil.

@FEGTTTSDH 2 года назад

80w90 are normally mineral (Heavily use in my country)... 75w90 or 75w80 are normally synthetic...

@kurniawanapras 2 года назад

No it's not i still easyly find the mineral one, even they still faint greenny colored and thick like crude oil

@Checkurcar24 Год назад

@@FEGTTTSDH agreed

@SOU6900 2 года назад

You guys need to do full plant inspections on all of Dilmar Oil's plants. Their regional manager has them doing some low down dirty stuff with their Shell products, the latest being taking Formula Shell 10-30, combining it with Motorcraft Super Duty 10-30 and trying to pass it off as T5 Rotella 10-30.

@Karl-Heinz-Faeller 2 года назад

Propably write them an e-mail not commenting this on YT

@Aviatr23 6 лет назад

Reminds me of the Lucas display at the parts store.

@alec-s 2 года назад

This film shows: 1 you put more spirax than other oils 2 spirax is waterlike and perhaps provides less protection on high temperature or loads, considering gear tooth are drained almost immediately after leaving oil pan.

@siddharthbhargav 2 года назад

Shell thank you for explaining this! I've always wanted to know!

@abhisheksoni2980 2 года назад

1)What's the guereettee they are actually using their own product and the other product is actually some decent alternative and not cheap junk oil? 2) as someone pointed out, the larger gear might not be covered entirely but the smaller gear is, which is adequate. 3) will one or two seconds of delay cause any significant difference? Are there any citations on this?

@haventthoughtofanameyet6364 2 года назад

If my truck has been running fine for a million miles on regular old gearbox lube, then I'd say the difference is so minute it is practically immeasurable.

@kemottomtr Год назад

It doesn't matter if gearbox oil is syntetic or not. What they show is just difference in viscocity. Thicker oil stays on theeth much longer and thats why after couple of revs its missing unde the sprocket. I wonder how it looks under higher RPM. My guess is that mineral oil will flow through inner wall as one uniform stream and syntetic will just splash all over

@1234567890CAB Год назад

It was a demonstration of how the fluid's viscosity would behave at cold temperatures without having to chill the whole apparatus. The oils weight is it's viscosity at operating temperature, in other words the two different oils should have the same viscosity at operating temperature. The gearbox or engine manufacture determines what weight to put in it by calculations with a fluid at that expected viscosity. One of the benefits of synthetic fluid is that the viscosity is much more stable over a wider range of temperature, which means the cold synthetic is much closer to operating viscosity than the cold conventional or conventional thickens up more with the same drop in temperature. What they are claiming is that they measured their synthetic fluid viscosity at cold temps and measured conventional viscosity at cold temps. Then they mixed the demo fluids to match those measured viscosities.

@alporroing 3 года назад

I guess if you payed for the translucent box, then you can compare 5w-30 with Weston chicken frying oil at -10 Celcius.

@buyar 2 года назад

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@cncgeneral 6 лет назад

I like the guy's voice, not all shouty and over excited like people in these sorts of videos often are. Interesting comparison too.

@1234567890CAB Год назад

It was a demonstration of how the fluid's viscosity would behave at cold temperatures without having to chill the whole apparatus. The oils weight is it's viscosity at operating temperature, in other words the two different oils should have the same viscosity at operating temperature. The gearbox or engine manufacture determines what weight to put in it by calculations with a fluid at that expected viscosity. One of the benefits of synthetic fluid is that the viscosity is much more stable over a wider range of temperature, which means the cold synthetic is much closer to operating viscosity than the cold conventional. Conventional thickens up more than synthetic with the same drop in temperature. What they are claiming is that they measured their synthetic fluid viscosity at cold temps and measured conventional viscosity at cold temps. Then they mixed the demo fluids to match those measured viscosities at room temp.

@israelguinatti5524 2 года назад

A good presentation is everything! 😉

@ianco14 5 лет назад

SAE 5W-30 and SAE 30 have big difference so its obvious even without any video which is much thicker and atf usually have lesser viscosity

@YoungXelDong 2 года назад

I dont know why this was recommended to me but from now on ill try synthetic oil on my joints

@pavelcar37 2 года назад

С 80х Ауди использует синтетику ,и эти МКПП до сих пор исправно служат!

@mihaisirbu1 2 года назад

For transmissions always use the original oil. This applies especially to VWs, yes it is around 20$/L and a MK3 Golf gearbox has around 3.5L of oil capacity so it's 80$ every 60k miles, I don't think it's that much, another gearbox is more expensive than using good oil.

@demoniack81 2 года назад

Saving money on oil is _never_ worth it. The difference between crappy mineral oil and full synthethic high performance oils like Motul or Castrol Edge is embarassingly small, like 30-40€ per oil change which is every 30,000km. Oil is literally the only thing stopping your engine from eating itself, anyone who goes for the crappy stuff is an idiot. Edit: also, oil filters are super cheap as well. I change the filter every time I change the oil.

@mihaisirbu1 2 года назад

@@demoniack81 correct, I change mine every year since I do like 5000 miles max per year. I only use Liqui Moli 10w40 special for old engine with molibden, it makes it run so smooth and it consumes 50-100ml between changes. For a 30yo 165000 mile small engine I guess it's ok

@Blue-yp5mz 2 года назад

This is why i never bought German cars, the maintenance cost is too high..😅

@mihaisirbu1 2 года назад

@@Blue-yp5mz it's only a 1.4 liter 980kg econobox.... Parts are ultra cheap in EU and I work on it myself, it's super cheap in the long run

@moparmadness5555 7 лет назад

am I the only one who realizes this is a transfer case not transmission like the title says?

@kylevanwinkle2081 6 лет назад

MoparMadness they only call it a gear box. A transfer case is a gear box. Any housing the holds multiple gears is a gear box whether that system can change ratios or not

@lukasharmon4965 6 лет назад

nope

@mobius001 6 лет назад

A transmission just doesn’t lend itself as easily to all those pretty visuals they showed us

@supatipanno 6 лет назад

No it is a motorcycle gearbox look carefully and the cylinder is on the vertical front....that large gear hides the clutch mechanism.

@billyjoey5670 6 лет назад

"Trans"fer

@yanyongs.6088 6 лет назад

What shell transmission fliud that can be used with the ATF WS specification with ATF Dexron VI

@abinbiju77 Год назад

I don't now why I came here but this is so satisfying to watch

@SirFloofy001 6 лет назад

Why didnt you show the close up of the red synthetic oil?

@fabiopedrola8201 6 лет назад

Was about to ask the same thing. I think 'cause the biggest gear seems not to have a sufficient layer of oil on her teeth.

@thenotorious8631 Год назад

I think it depends on the speed since the thick is going slow it doesn't fill the gap properly and the faster the the thin oil goes les gaps filled.

@fatjr.6287 6 лет назад

How to spot original shell advance ulta 4T? Im from the Philippines. Thank you

@duyphan4617 6 месяцев назад

I've just successful protected my project regarding gearbox yesterday.😊

@couchsufers2182 2 года назад

I don't know I'm watching this. but my brain told me this is satisfying:)

@couseking8134 2 года назад

🤣🤣same

@Qwerty_134 Год назад

Yes but we dont know at high rpm so we dont know whic one the best for our ride

@gear.institute 2 года назад

Can i use this video for educational purpose on youtube???

@vector6977 6 лет назад

so when do you start making clear case covers for motorcycles?

@c.vasanthakumar1058 Год назад

Satisfying to watch

@Checkurcar24 Год назад

What is the Drain interval of this amazing oil?

@dantheman1998 6 лет назад

Is this for automatic or manual transmission?

@captainamericaamerica8090 2 года назад

Shell, gear box full synthetic transmission. Fluid. The best

@DS-TRUCKS 6 лет назад

I need that clear gear box on my car!!!

@anticeon 6 лет назад

In high rpm the box would explode

@tuff_lover 2 года назад

Cool demo.

@falconeaterf15 3 года назад

I use whale oil in all my automatic transmission equipped vehicles. Makes for a smooth shift every time !

@Napoleon_Blownapart 3 года назад

And panda fat for chassis grease.

@sairamr6886 2 года назад

And literal elbow grease

@gummy1204 2 года назад

Have you tried snake oil? It works great too!

@mikepekala832 2 года назад

Dexron 3 used whale oil in it. That’s not a joke lol

@falconeaterf15 2 года назад

@@mikepekala832 I think they all did back in the 50s. Whales were cheap and plentiful back then.

@M-DIY 6 лет назад

Thanks for uploading. I wanted to see a gear box in action with oil.

@punishmint 6 лет назад

Milind S. Vashist thats a transfer case if it was a transmission they would have show a manuel and automatic and they forgot about the planetary gear set

@vinayh.u.9706 6 лет назад

Hi Team I would like to inform you that we have learnt, that liquid on heating becomes less viscous in nature.So is this video based on only when the engine starts or when the vehicle is in motion as well. Cause if it's based on only when the vehicle is starting there is no use. It means your only promoting that product.

@kessel251 5 лет назад

Yeah, the oil demo is cool but where do I get the transparent gearbox. I need it for autism.

@alexhall6641 6 лет назад

Did anyone notice that the red oil gearbox had more oil in it than the other two

@mikepekala832 2 года назад

The synthetic oil uses smart technology to self adjust fluid level. This is done by using thermal energy and CO2 from the air to create extra molecules to correct fluid level.

@JayDee-xj9lu 2 года назад

Yes, and notice at 2:36 the large gear looked dry on top, like in the mineral oil test.

@Soulwrite7 2 года назад

Figured I would check this. Yellow is shown at 0:37 and compared to green at 2:09. Green is shown at 1:09 and compared to yellow at 2:09. Red is shown at 2:26 and does not have a side by side comparison. That said before motion all oil levels are sitting at the same level, just under the black circle of the large gear. During operation the levels are different as the oil viscosity results in more being in the gear teeth, at which point during motion the red oil does have more sitting in the reservoir.

@morphbal1234 2 года назад

@@mikepekala832 Could you explain this more? What is the smart technology?

@KushagraJuneja 2 года назад

@@morphbal1234 Sarcasm 😛

@RevdJoelAshirwadam 2 года назад

MIsleading, why not use the same viscus oil?

@patrickwoo6067 2 года назад

I've always use Shell V-Power oil , awesome...!!!!

@johnreynolds6291 3 года назад

Does Transmission Fluid ever Dissipate like Engine Oil?

@carMuters 6 лет назад

shell i want to make a video on synthetic engine oil and mineral oil in hindi so can i use this clip in my video

@connivingkhajiit 6 лет назад

Bike Muters yes

@user-ou6ox4nd5k 2 года назад

I like your video soundtrack.

@shekharkumar683 6 лет назад

So which one is good for bike?

@brittabadie1512 2 года назад

Interesting choice of colors for the example…

@christopherhernandez78 2 года назад

I wonder if She'll can create a strong cvt oil that keep it from dying and solve shuttering and other issues associated with CVTs. I'd like to pay oil changes and maintenance over 6k whole replacement.

@raygale4198 Год назад

CVT's are a classic example of contradicting needs, you need friction for the drive belt to drive the drums, but you don't want friction every where else in the transmission. Conventional autos had a similar problem, but at least they had large clutch areas that could bite through the oil.

@shmuck66 Год назад

@@raygale4198 They could have separated the belt section and the gearing/clutch section. Plenty of other gearboxes do this, including many compact automatics which used ATF in the gearbox section, but the combined final drive (diff) used gear oil. Blame the engineers who thought little about the contradicting needs and though about the pennies saved. "bah, it will only be a problem in 80k, by then its out of warranty"

@egn83b 2 года назад

Liquid friction robs power and just cuz it clings doesnt mean its not causing stress at thrust bearing surfaces. Different fluids work at different temps, some better then others. Use what works for situation.

@badsbiker 2 года назад

Why Shell Don't manufacture fully synthetic oil in 10w-30 grade?

@SuperKvamsi 2 года назад

Is transmission oil and gear oil the same ? I own a 1.2L petrol manual transmission car, does that also need this synthetic oil ?

@Oliepolie 2 года назад

that background music has no right to be that awesome

@ASADANSARIX_ 2 года назад

RU-vid is recommending this after 8 years

@jonathanyates8826 2 года назад

Just wish Shell could sponsor me 🤣I use their oils in all my vehicles and customers vehicles

@adityahabbu7463 Год назад

I just want to know if shell is better or motul for bikes

@davidherrera2465 Год назад

Exelente Información 👍

@danielcox3983 6 лет назад

Someone answer me this, why wouldn't you want the gears in the transfer case shown to be fully bathed in oil? Is it because of expansion rates of the heated oil? Is it because it causes the gears to push against more fluid and is inefficient?

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@Pertamax7-HD 6 лет назад

Nice sir

@anass.something 3 года назад

I love you shell

@bowwow255 Год назад

What oil should i use for my Speedometer console.

@momento_2125 2 года назад

Music sounds like a redemption arc in an anime

@jonathanxxx9992 2 года назад

I'm surprised there's no ads on advertisement video

@dcahya1595 2 года назад

How about in higher rpm? i mean the centrifugal force would throw the oil away from the gears, wouldn't it?

@Qwerty_134 Год назад

Yes i dont see high rpm 🤣so we dont know when it goes at high rpm!

@angelokimoable 2 года назад

請問台灣速克達齒輪油建議多久更換

@estelja 2 года назад

Hey Shell, why did most of your Colorado gas stations all the sudden become Circle K's with unknown gasoline?

@Tokyo_Views 2 года назад

WHat an amazing demo video.... need more of this... they should also show some old oils as well so we can expect what might happen

@182mcg1 2 года назад

What about the transmission that is integrated into the engine in one housing?

@jayborhan 2 года назад

@airandroads 2 года назад

Nice. Love from AIR AND ROADS RU-vid CHANNEL

@piecartbox 8 лет назад

8 year old conventional was working fine in WY at -40 in toyota truck.

@Trident_Euclid 6 лет назад

Tad Meister How old is the truck? Conventional oils work just fine (under optimum conditions) for older vehicles. Newer vehicles are designed with tight tolerances so a fully synthetic lubricants are a must.

@iqbalmuhammad2920 6 лет назад

+Ibraheem Al hadede Tighter tolerances? No, not neccessarily. Tighter torelance, most of the time does not equal to = quality. At the highest precision level, it becomes = higher cost. Case in point. Previously in the roughness specification of machined surfaces (of bearing surfaces), people used Rz or Rmax as the absolute control paramater & the general consensus the lower (tighter) you go, the better it would be. Not anymore. Nowadays people use Ra (Roughness average) from a set of peak & valley points, & even then, you have to take out the deepest valley from the calculation as, a deeper valley means a good pocket of oil storage (of course, deep valley is not good in the glass/ceramic product segment). The same goes for tolerancing. You are not going for tighter tolerance nowadays. We are going for better profile/form/surfaces/fitting control (GD&T)

@Checkurcar24 Год назад

Is it from Group III or PAO base oil?

@REVIEW_JUJUR 6 лет назад

I live in Tropic, so this is not a problem.

@JSPHTRS 2 года назад

I feel so inspired

@Qwerty_134 Год назад

Yeah but no high rpm 🤣 so we dont know which one the best for our engine!

@Alex462047 2 года назад

Now repeat the test with the Spirax at a more realistic winter startup temperature of -30C and let's see how it does. I'm not saying anything, it's just that -10C is at the mild end of winter temperatures in my part of the world.

@ratulahmed2823 6 лет назад

Viscosity of the oil changes with heat.

@IlhamZailan 2 года назад

Very good video

@lordvalentine471 Год назад

Hand cranking one of these or slow motion I want to see how it works at highway speed

@keithlewis1964 2 года назад

We've found that without a tall package of anti foaming additives the oils will trap excessive amounts of heat into itself when cavitation is taking place. Gear sets will turn blue due to metal to metal contact due to insufficient anti foaming capability.

@neerajchopra6809 2 года назад

Fabulous . Where to buy it from in India . Need it bad .

@Wok_Agenda 6 лет назад

I have a renault , whatever i put inside the ntn bearings will fail prematurely

@patrikalan955 Год назад

Mostre sobre o efeito da gasolina aditivada v power

@poonachakp5 7 лет назад

Your gearbox will outlast your car engine! So don't bother unless heavily modified. Go with company recommendations. Give attention to clutch & brake pads etc.

@3a.m.284 6 лет назад

Poonacha Kp you must drive the shittiest car on the planet then lmao. 860k on my engine and she's still perfectly fine (yes I've taken her apart to check on her) still good. Also running 15lbs of boost

@beezanteeum 6 лет назад

AKS I think Nissan use ExxonMobil for both engine and transmission, but i wrong

@sahil5185 6 лет назад

金3 A.M. that's incredible

@connivingkhajiit 6 лет назад

金3 A.M. total b.s.

@greyhound4078 3 года назад

I agree, mineral based oil is more than sufficient.

@e.f.s.f5527 2 года назад

How oil Hot temprature working in gearbox ?

@thepreviewchannel6398 Год назад

well it depends if the engine is vintage or new, recommended by manufacturer or not...

@Spheredalai Год назад

wait so transmissions are not supposed to be fully submerged in oil?

@playeah1 6 лет назад

i just saw this but too late since i already switched to shell advance waaayyy back 2009 for my moped. i noticed that engine.is smoother and start easily on cold weather when using shell advance. thanks shell.

@catthecommentbothunter6890 2 года назад

Can i out this oil in my homemade gearbox?

@rajubangaya4237 Год назад

I just found how lubricants oil gears so when we dont have oil inside engine now i know what will happen

@chromalusion15 2 года назад

Can i use it in cvt?

@yohanes.gunawan03 6 лет назад

I will buy it for my car. Thx

@the_chomper 2 года назад

the mineral oil demo shows you need more of that oil in the gearbox because of how thick it is it cant run back into the sump to be picked up again. sometimes thicker isnt better and sometimes thinner isnt better. it depends on the enviroment. i bet that light weight synthetic wouldnt last in the desert.