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Shifter Film Photography Episode 002 

DANIEL MILNOR
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Film is like language. You can study something your entire life and never quite get all of it. Nothing about film matters unless you use it. So talking about film and venturing down the rabbit hole of technicality doesn't help anyone. To understand the nuance of film you must use it, again and again, year after year, and only then will you begin to comprehend the range of possibility.
Kodak P3200, or TMZ, is more complex than most offering a wide range of speed and look within one emulsion. This was my primary film for over a decade and I still feel like I left a lot on the table in terms of what this product was capable of. Time, temperature, developer, agitation, processing style were just a few of the items that could turn this film from friend to foe.
For me, film is and was about simplicity and restriction. I miss the days of film because I miss what the rest of my life was like during the time of analog supremacy. No computer, no mobile phone.
This print scans and prints beautifully while in the darkroom is can present real problems. Learning TMZ is the antithesis of what we are told matters. Learning TMZ is about all the things we are told don't matter. Learning it, for real, calls into question the most precious resource of our time. Time.

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@justinthompson5718
@justinthompson5718 3 года назад
Words can’t explain how nice it was to watch a video on film photography that doesn’t blare generic hipster music with 80% of the video being b-roll of random places. Thank you for the awesome content sir!
@DANIELMILNOR505
@DANIELMILNOR505 3 года назад
Or B-roll of the camera being used. But again, can't be too hard on those folks. They have accepted the RU-vid life which is about selling out to whatever gets subs. Just the online world we live in.
@Vincent171090
@Vincent171090 3 года назад
Haha, so true Justin.
@nickfanzo
@nickfanzo 3 года назад
I don’t mind the video content they make, I mind that all their work looks the same
@joelbeltran9127
@joelbeltran9127 3 года назад
You "rambling" is such a service for your viewers. Can't thank you enough. I shoot color neg on half frame for economical purposes. 72 shots/roll virtually halves the price of any film stock i buy. Thanks again for the information, you're helping me and so many others branch out!
@DANIELMILNOR505
@DANIELMILNOR505 3 года назад
I still have my Yashica half frame. Love that thing.
@jobecker1122
@jobecker1122 3 года назад
I am in photography for over 50 years now. I knew them all all: Rodinal (with a lot of AGFA films) D-76 with TRI-X (1:3 15 min agitating all 30 sec. still know this out of my mind - thats crazy) or ILFORD PAN F with Perceptol for almost no grain. But I changed to digital many years ago. Your film made my fingers tingle to put film back into my old NIKON F2 and go out with it. Thanks for the wonderful inspiration!
@DANIELMILNOR505
@DANIELMILNOR505 3 года назад
AGFA. Good grief how fantastic was their offering? Film, paper, chems. All of it.
@johanmatto
@johanmatto 3 года назад
More, more, more. Please, more. We really are rabid.
@TheGazmondo
@TheGazmondo 3 года назад
Was shooting professionally from the seventies, and it’s a breath of fresh air to hear your take on photography. Teaching that everything has a place, is a hard lesson for the digital world !
@DANIELMILNOR505
@DANIELMILNOR505 3 года назад
People love to draw lines in the sand. Not just with film/digital, but with life in general. Good grief, look the political situation here in the US. Embarrassing. It's all great. Anything you use to be creative, good on ya.
@terryclark8745
@terryclark8745 2 года назад
So many early memories of shooting night football games on deadline and developing Tri-X, 2 min. @80º in D76. Negs were absolutely horrid, but they did fine in the paper. Then I moved to a different job where I learned fine processing from a former printer for Ansel Adams. That set the tone for the rest of my career. Love your channel.
@satriyo796
@satriyo796 3 года назад
Your video has so much information that my brain can possibly hold in one sitting. I don't know why but I can't stop listening to the end. Now, this is quality content. Definitely need to re-watch this later. Thank you.
@DANIELMILNOR505
@DANIELMILNOR505 3 года назад
Film is an odd thing. So many layers.
@JeffCreates
@JeffCreates Год назад
I knew film developing was a complicated chemical process, it's how i started with photography. But i had absolutely no idea it was...like this! So interesting to listen to pure knowledge of something I've got no intention of delving in to.
@DANIELMILNOR505
@DANIELMILNOR505 Год назад
it's another language.....
@duncanstreuderst
@duncanstreuderst 3 года назад
On a side note, Amazon just released a new documentary, Some Kind of Heaven, on Prime. It's shot with a 4:3 aspect ratio on film, in order to replicate vintage 1970's photography, and I couldn't help but think while watching it that this film is right up your alley Dan. It's quite obvious that the director, Lance Oppenheim, and the cinematographer, David Bolen, have a great appreciation for documentary styled photography. Every shot composition feels like it belongs in a photo book. The film makes it feel as if I'm paging through a photo journal, brilliant images following brilliant images, one after the other. Some of those shots had me absolutely floored, stunned and left wondering how Bolen was able to capture out of this world imagery through motionless composition and have that translated onto the format of video. The film really feels as if it was made for this community! (It also deals with quite a unique subject matter, so the story it tells is super interesting and the choices behind the aspect ratio, shot composition and medium used serves to further support the narrative of the film!) www.amazon.com/Some-Kind-Heaven-Reggie-Kincer/dp/B08SQ9W7VR
@DANIELMILNOR505
@DANIELMILNOR505 3 года назад
Wow, that sounds heavenly. Thanks for sending. All over that.
@roxspeedg
@roxspeedg 3 года назад
You had me at Tmax!
@cornelius_b
@cornelius_b 3 года назад
10 seconds into the video...already hyped!
@stevenbudd3725
@stevenbudd3725 3 года назад
Hi Daniel. Your assessment of TMZ is the only game in town for me. I've waded through the treacle of multiple 'reviews' of the film elsewhere that routinely begin with 'This is my first roll of TMZ and I'm going to tell you what my thoughts and conclusions are. Stone. The. Flamin'. Crows. In tandem with that, the supporting images are almost always poor to unbelievably inept. I guess that just because you can make a video doesn't mean you should... I was using Ilford XP-2 Super and Fuji Acros II up until I watched this episode and have been loading up TMZ ever since (rated at 800). I'm very much at the 'baby steps' stage and appreciate your observation of treating film as a language - it's right on the money. Take it easy - your channel is top drawer and I wish you and yours well going forwards.
@DANIELMILNOR505
@DANIELMILNOR505 3 года назад
Thanks bud, glad to hear that. That film is a language all by itself! It really is. I would shoot it at 1250 and process normal.
@stevenbudd3725
@stevenbudd3725 3 года назад
@@DANIELMILNOR505 Cheers Dan. Yes, I’ll definitely try it to see how it compares at 1250. I have six rolls off for development at the minute and will use that as my jumping off point. From there, the next half dozen will be at 1250. Much looking forward to getting under the skin of TMZ. Keep on keeping on - hope you and yours are fine and well at this (still) difficult time.
@andrewnoden9117
@andrewnoden9117 3 года назад
Hi Dan, Andrew here in Ottawa, I can’t keep up with all the gems you share🙂, it would be great if you would write a book on your process in today’s blog. The process and the flow can be really great. I listen to your podcasts every week, you never fail to amaze me with your depth of knowledge and content but also you are a natural and you have Music in your voice. Thanks Dan
@DANIELMILNOR505
@DANIELMILNOR505 3 года назад
I barely have time to change my clothes. I'd love to write a book but my fear is it would be a truly horrendous novel. I am working on a new book however. Mostly images.
@marzena2226
@marzena2226 3 года назад
👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏🤜🤛great movie!!!👍👍
@onigrapher
@onigrapher 3 года назад
Really enjoy your videos about film and what I believe film is making a come back 🤞🏼
@DANIELMILNOR505
@DANIELMILNOR505 3 года назад
Fingers crossed.
@chasingvenusfilmarts
@chasingvenusfilmarts 3 года назад
Nice work all around. Thank you for the time in sharing knowledge and experience. You continue to inspire...
@TheGameCalledReality
@TheGameCalledReality 3 года назад
so many comments thanking you for your insights and sharing your knowledge, heres one more 🤪thanks for helping to keep film alive
@DANIELMILNOR505
@DANIELMILNOR505 3 года назад
I am doing little. There are many others who are carrying the flag now, luckily.
@ConceptGoose
@ConceptGoose 3 года назад
Thanks Daniel, this was so interesting to watch, and I learnt a lot too 👍
@anthonydavis4829
@anthonydavis4829 2 года назад
Found you by accident, won't give you up by choice. Good DAMN video (s).
@DANIELMILNOR505
@DANIELMILNOR505 2 года назад
Thanks bud. Glad you are here.
@CristianGeelen
@CristianGeelen 3 года назад
A mesh thong speedo! There must be a story behind that. 🤣
@DANIELMILNOR505
@DANIELMILNOR505 3 года назад
Who me? Never, never.
@samtannernz
@samtannernz 3 года назад
Another rabid analog enthusiast here, but your videos cut through the crap that comes with that and helps us narrow in on what is important about this beautiful thing called photography!
@DANIELMILNOR505
@DANIELMILNOR505 3 года назад
Sam, none of this matters outside of "how is the take?" There is SO much nonsensical talk in the online photo world. The only thing that matters is what lives on those negs.
@CiderGuy
@CiderGuy 3 года назад
Thanks Dan, thoroughly enjoyed that. A video made for "photographers" by a photographer. A rarity today on YT. 👍 I remember your Mexico work years agoalso the salt flats and seeing all that grain which I just couldn't understand at the time. Years later I see, understand and relish that grain.
@DANIELMILNOR505
@DANIELMILNOR505 3 года назад
I got lucky and got the "grain gene." Don't think I'll ever shake it.
@CiderGuy
@CiderGuy 3 года назад
@@DANIELMILNOR505 Top man! 👍😁
@nickfanzo
@nickfanzo 3 года назад
Tri x @ 100-320 and rodinal for 11 minutes. Cooked to hell. Love it.
@DANIELMILNOR505
@DANIELMILNOR505 3 года назад
Shazam!
@renulien
@renulien 3 года назад
I love your love for tmax 3200. I share the same feelings for Fuji Natura 1600. Appreciate the vid.
@abrooklyngirllinda
@abrooklyngirllinda 3 года назад
besides your videos, (reading) these comments are also a thing of beauty. so psyched i found your channel. continuing my geek out sessions over here...
@DANIELMILNOR505
@DANIELMILNOR505 3 года назад
Comments are always fun. Even the troll comments.
@stephenperera7382
@stephenperera7382 3 года назад
Glad we’re back talking film hermano. My golden combo is T-Max 400 TMY2 [Hasselblad format] in Xtol 1:1.....the greyscale and grain is truly special. I like Xtol as easy to mix etc. I shot and designed a set of official Gibraltar stamps on it recently. Ilford 3200 [EI 1600] is also spectacular in grain.....beautiful film. I like the fact Ilford are being so proactive and innovative with their products and marketing. Kodak just sit on their laurels more. BW film + developers are like loads of language dialects that can be learned such as found going from north to south in any of the continents of the world.....
@DANIELMILNOR505
@DANIELMILNOR505 3 года назад
Kodak sent me preproduction rolls of the last gen TMAX 400 in 120. I worked it into my portrait business at the time and was blown away. And was also using Xtol at the time.
@TIANDIstudios
@TIANDIstudios 3 года назад
YES! THANK YOU! I thought I was the only lady loving grain! You just convinced me to try the TMZ! Grain is gorgeous!! Going to cling to film as long as possible!!! You rock Dude!
@DANIELMILNOR505
@DANIELMILNOR505 3 года назад
Cling my friend, cling. Let's keep it alive.
@paultaylorphotography9499
@paultaylorphotography9499 3 года назад
Love that film shot it for years stood on the sidelines of sports fields in the depths of long dark cold murky miserable yorkshire winters great simple uncomplicated times. Too video as always mate cheers 📷❤️
@DANIELMILNOR505
@DANIELMILNOR505 3 года назад
There is nothing like standing in freezing slog shooting a football then watching as a photog down the line gets creamed by an out of control, 300-pound lineman.
@paultaylorphotography9499
@paultaylorphotography9499 3 года назад
@@DANIELMILNOR505 see that a few times 😂😂
@sadiesmith4773
@sadiesmith4773 3 года назад
I love your film work, evokes Miron Zownir for me
@DANIELMILNOR505
@DANIELMILNOR505 3 года назад
Do'n't know that person but will look them up. Thank you.
@IainHC1
@IainHC1 3 года назад
Loved this Dan :-) Thank you :-)
@joseelement7695
@joseelement7695 3 года назад
Sooo good! ¡Thank you señor Milnor! Such great info (as usual) also....now I’m hungry for pozole!
@DANIELMILNOR505
@DANIELMILNOR505 3 года назад
I just had some homemade. It's the perfect winter food. This was veggie and was still great.
@Topsyrm
@Topsyrm 3 года назад
Bravo for the outro Dan, I remember when film was all there was. A good trip down memory lane, I tend to shoot colour film more these days and convert in software when I want B&W.
@DANIELMILNOR505
@DANIELMILNOR505 3 года назад
You are not alone.
@guillaumebouqueau
@guillaumebouqueau 3 года назад
Bought a pack of 10 rolls of TMax 3200P a month ago. I've been experimenting at different iso to see what I can get out of it. This video is coming with a perfect timing for me. Thanks for sharing your knowledge on this.
@DANIELMILNOR505
@DANIELMILNOR505 3 года назад
Best of luck with that. Enjoy.
@mathewmccarthy9848
@mathewmccarthy9848 3 года назад
Film and a mesh thong.....now that's a visual....Love it. Great video Dan.
@DANIELMILNOR505
@DANIELMILNOR505 3 года назад
Scary, I know.
@jonberlin6131
@jonberlin6131 3 года назад
Bravo, keep it coming Dan!
@michaelmorales309
@michaelmorales309 3 года назад
Rodinol was the first developer I picked up. The guy at the camera store told me undiluted it would last forever, and what you said above about only needing a little. I'll damned if it isn't true! I didn't know it had those effects of the image though. Thanks for sharing!
@DANIELMILNOR505
@DANIELMILNOR505 3 года назад
Oh ya, that bottle will a good long while.
@IanMcCausland
@IanMcCausland 3 года назад
High accutance but increased grain, Rodinal was my jam! I kept this beautiful brown glass bottle till the end of my darkroom. One bottle lasted 15 years!
@ronhipwell5543
@ronhipwell5543 3 года назад
Bravo Dan, thanks for sharing your knowledge! Just bought a couple of rolls of TMax 400, my first try with the TMax line. Let’s go!
@DANIELMILNOR505
@DANIELMILNOR505 3 года назад
I think you will dig it.
@peter2712
@peter2712 3 года назад
Great lecture, I just happened to process a roll of tmax 400 with 1:50 Rodinal. Had a polarizer on the Nikon F4 and what a beautiful result. Thanks for the effort making this videos they are really helpful.
@DANIELMILNOR505
@DANIELMILNOR505 3 года назад
Any developer that allows for the use of a syringe is good in my book.
@stacker62
@stacker62 3 года назад
I always shot TMY in my window light studio back in the 90's to about 2006 for the speed but also the smooth grain for portraits. I'd occasionally use TMZ in dimmer light or sometimes in the studio, but always at 1250 or 1600 in D-76 Stock or X-tol. Tri-X was and still is my go to film for documentary stuff along with TMZ occasionally. I always print with a diffuser enlarger (glass ANR neg. carrier) and make a master print which I scan on a flatbed for web use, publication, etc. All great films!! Great video, Thanks!!
@DANIELMILNOR505
@DANIELMILNOR505 3 года назад
Scanning flatbed prints....made my day. Just the thought of it.
@stacker62
@stacker62 3 года назад
@@DANIELMILNOR505 Yes, I still find doing a master print first (8x10 or 11x14) in the darkroom and then scanning it, is the best way to go for publication and other uses, at least for me and some of my client's books. Film scans, at least from 35mm, don't always get me the "look" that I want. BTW, if you really want "grainy" TMZ, shoot at E.I. 1250 ASA and Dev in Dektol 1:3 for 3 minutes at 75F.
@casey.shields
@casey.shields 3 года назад
Finally episode 2!! Gonna make my lab watch it
@DANIELMILNOR505
@DANIELMILNOR505 3 года назад
I pity them. Listening to me for a half hour is cruel and unusual.
@willbaren
@willbaren 3 года назад
Mesh thong speedo makes me grin every time. Yes, I’ve watched this more than once. Pray for me.
@klausmoritzpeitzsch690
@klausmoritzpeitzsch690 3 года назад
What a great video and story about T-Max an Leica M4! I basically stopped shooting anything else but Kodak T-Max. Mostly 100 and 400, just a few 3200. I did not like the grain to much so I rather used it at 800 or 1600. I process all my films at home and until recently, also printed them in the darkroom on Ilford paper. I personally made some good experiences with overexposing and underdeveloping the films a third of a stop, e.g. the 100 at 80. I prefer my M3 over my M4. Split grading: It is really hard to master and I am still a beginner but when done properly, it is amazing! Have a nice day!
@DANIELMILNOR505
@DANIELMILNOR505 3 года назад
Tinkering, that is what it is all about. I always liked a negative a little on the thin side.
@Guitar_Sounds
@Guitar_Sounds 2 года назад
Thanks so much for these vlogs on using film Daniel, your enthusiasm and information provide the essence of what film has to offer. I am really keen to give this a go after shooting digital and printing for a few years now… I’m tiring of all the computer centric stuff and want a more organic approach. Can you suggest some documentation on how to process TX 400 and or TMax 3200 at home .. Especially in regards to exposure latitudes and process techniques with push/pulling etc.. Many thanks Anthony
@DANIELMILNOR505
@DANIELMILNOR505 2 года назад
Hey Anthony, wow. Where to start? There are so many film forums and groups around, not sure where to aim you. I love the idea of starting with ONE film and ONE chemical. TRIX in D76 was the classic for decades. TRIX is forgiving. You can then keep to the same film while experimenting with different chemicals. Xtol or HC110 or Rodinal. I would start there before exploding into all the other options.
@Guitar_Sounds
@Guitar_Sounds 2 года назад
@@DANIELMILNOR505 Thanks Daniel yes I’m realising like printing, film processing will require trial and error and experimentation. I appreciate you taking the time to respond… I’ll get started now.. thanks again. I’ve really enjoyed your work when you started a couple of years back.. keep ‘‘em comin.. cheers Anthony
@frederic_viennot
@frederic_viennot 3 года назад
thank you so much for sharing your passion for film photography ✨ it is so inspiring ;))
@richball3260
@richball3260 3 года назад
I was reminded of a lot of things with this video. When I dropped 35mm and bought my Mamiya M645 I used to buy my film in "pro packs" which consisted of 5 rolls of 120 or 220. The Kodak Plus X always came with a sheet listing the speed as ASA 160 and Tri X as ASA individual hotographyrolls Anyway i went and bought a couple of rolls of Tmax 3200 which ill be using in the near future. You probably should have mentioned how economical Rodinal is to use. A little bit goes a long way even at the 25:1 dilution. Thanks for the trip in the way back machine - Rich Ball
@DANIELMILNOR505
@DANIELMILNOR505 3 года назад
Your bottle of Rodinal will be found by whatever species replaces us, and their kids will use it. I shoot TRIX at 250 or 320 and have been happy. Never really did like Plus X as I needed the speed of TRIX.
@Harlequin565
@Harlequin565 3 года назад
Really enjoyed that thanks. I've just spent a year finding something I can shoot at 3200 that gives me a clean look. HP5 in DD-X hits that perfectly. But when I do want the grain, it's P3200 in HC-110. Thanks for reminding me.
@DANIELMILNOR505
@DANIELMILNOR505 3 года назад
So many memories here.
@CiderGuy
@CiderGuy 3 года назад
Yes, pushing HP5 in DD-X took me years to discover also but the discontinuation of Neopan 400 hastened this in the end. So glad I discovered the combo. HP5 at box speed in whatever? Nah, not for me.
@BobFitz64
@BobFitz64 3 года назад
Hey Dan. Now I know you know how much I like you and your work but I admit it. I've had a dalliance with another. Alex Soth. He's made a video about William Eggleston's book The Democratic Forest. I really enjoyed it and reminded me about your book talks and the importance of editing. For me, your content is always spot on. Another great video.
@DANIELMILNOR505
@DANIELMILNOR505 3 года назад
Cool. Two well respected dudes. I'm working on a new book film with a sizable backstory that speaks not only about the book but the entire process of how it came to be. It should help those new to bookmaking, and perhaps others, about how complex and multifaceted this can be.
@BobFitz64
@BobFitz64 3 года назад
@@DANIELMILNOR505 Perfect. Thanks for this. Couldn't ask for more.
@joseuribe430
@joseuribe430 5 месяцев назад
Yay for green chicken pozole!
@lichtmaler
@lichtmaler 3 года назад
Valuable inside also on the darkroom side. Wish everybody would be on those topics at this depth. Please share more on film photography. I have not printed TMZ in the darkoom. A friend of mine thinks tmz100 is the best film ever and her wet prints are amazing. In difference to you she thinks wet prints with Ilford fiber based warmtone papers are unmatched digitally. I am more of a Trix-x person after having tried a lot of different stock. It´s the most forgiving film I have ever seen. Great content. Keep it up.
@DANIELMILNOR505
@DANIELMILNOR505 3 года назад
I have to argue, at least a bit. Fiber darkroom and inkjet are just different mediums. I love them both for different reasons, but I wouldn't say one is better than the other. I just depends on your needs. I love TRI-X too.
@lichtmaler
@lichtmaler 3 года назад
@@DANIELMILNOR505 I was referring to your comment, if I got you right, that TMZ film is hard to print in a darkroom, which is why you would rather scan the film and go the digital road. And my friend uses this very film in particular for fiber based prints with great results and would not consider any other option. Two very different opinions. That's all.
@stephencharlton2024
@stephencharlton2024 3 года назад
I don’t shoot film anymore but I loved this. Took me back to the joys and frustrations of the darkroom. Excellent, thank you.
@DANIELMILNOR505
@DANIELMILNOR505 3 года назад
I rarely do either but it's such a grand way to spend time.
@TheLefse
@TheLefse 2 года назад
Great little nugget, this video! Thankfully Kodak brought back P3200. Amazing technology. Finicky, sure, but when you get it right it’s so crisp that it’s almost edible. Using a Heiland Splitgrade controller. Look it up, it’s a time saver :-)
@DANIELMILNOR505
@DANIELMILNOR505 2 года назад
My darkroom days are behind me. Figures there is something that would have made my life easier.
@BillySanford
@BillySanford 3 года назад
Great film on film. Thank you, keep up the good work. New Q for your next Q&A, not about books or photography. Tangentially about bikes. Or answer here if you're feeling froggy, just interested in your answer. You are awarded a 2 week trip studying a craft alongside a skilled artisan in an exotic locale. At the end, you come home with that knowledge and the thing you built with your hands. Rank these 3 in the order you'd think they'd positively enhance your life experience - building a guitar in Argentina, building a brass bell in Japan, or building a bamboo bicycle in India.
@DANIELMILNOR505
@DANIELMILNOR505 3 года назад
Great question. I'll take India first so that I can use the bike on the subsequent trips. Then to Argentina while I'm still feeling spry. Finally, Japan where I would then remain until I was fluent and partially submerged in the culture.
@sergeyusik9934
@sergeyusik9934 3 года назад
TMax 400 + Xtol 1:1 was my all-time favorite combo. I was able to do 100-6400 just with that! There is only one drawback of Xtol I've experienced. When ready to use solution may "die" at any time, no matter how good you kept it stored. Other than that - it's perfect match to Tmax 100/400.
@DANIELMILNOR505
@DANIELMILNOR505 3 года назад
The latest gen TMAX 400 is very nice.
@chiprock2692
@chiprock2692 3 года назад
A vote for stand/rodinal...and HC110. Just got a free 100ft roll of tmax100 in a old bulkloader off ebay. Ran 4 rolls and was shocked that its still good so your timing is perfect. Shooting Tri-x would be like a time machine..feels like 30 years ago. Heavy into Acros/Panf25/Rollei superpan. I love your dedication to TMZ. I always shot it a stop below box speed and only when I needed a tool to add interior/ night shots; and tried to smooth it out. You did it right. It's totally worthy in its own right. I really appreciate these clips! This one with a cup of coffee on a foggy day by the fire hit a homerun! Thank you from the bottom of my 4 spool tank....but use Hewes spools!!!
@DANIELMILNOR505
@DANIELMILNOR505 3 года назад
This is like slang. If unknowing civilians read these messages we would surely be reported.
@chiprock2692
@chiprock2692 3 года назад
Ha!! Secret handshake would mimic the rewind spool on a 'M'!!
@terencemorrissey4413
@terencemorrissey4413 3 года назад
Interesting stories, thanks for sharing.
@htt2707
@htt2707 3 года назад
Thanks for another great episode! As a passionate amateur photographer, shooting mostly film, I really enjoyed this one. Have not tried Tmax3200 yet but its on top of my list of film to try out. During the dark winter period here in Iceland its kind of necessary to shoot films at higher iso. I have used TriX @1600 and love the look of it but I have terrible time scanning TriX because it cups too much for the scanner. Kodak Eastman Double X is giving me better, flatter negs to scan than TriX and it also has beautiful contrast.
@DANIELMILNOR505
@DANIELMILNOR505 3 года назад
Icelandic winter seems like the perfect place for high ISO>
@Hermanwagen
@Hermanwagen 3 года назад
I never had a problem printing p3200, I love it. I was also shown the paper developer idea, only we used to do 1:1 dilution for 4mins the grain and contrast is crazy in a good way. I think :)
@DANIELMILNOR505
@DANIELMILNOR505 3 года назад
Yes, that is what I heard. Not subtle but it works.
@shawnmiller4440
@shawnmiller4440 3 года назад
I never shot P3200 when it was first around, but now that it's back I can't shoot enough of it. I love it at 1600 in HC110, but haven't done too much experimentation yet. Thanks for the video, I love the film ramblings!
@DANIELMILNOR505
@DANIELMILNOR505 3 года назад
I'm just stoked people are using this stuff. So fantastic.
@neilpiper9889
@neilpiper9889 3 года назад
I loved the early tri x 5603 edge numbered film developed 1.1 in D76. I still have the negs from the 1970s and the 1980s. I used white velvet lustre Bromesko paper until Kodak stopped making it My photography life has had several mini bereavements caused by Kodak. Kodachrome especially 200, gone. I use Trix now and develop in Rodinal 1.50. Rodinal keeps for years. I used Xtol until covid and it became unavailable. My local lab used Xytol for all fims and have the same availability problems. I use a condenser enlarger and a Schneider Componon S 100mm f5.6 lens for 6x7 (Pentax) negs. I use a Schneider Componon S 50mm f2. 8 enlarging lens for my Nikon FE Trix negs. I have a Ricoh 8.1 megapixel GR digital camera and use it on high iso and black and white settings. It looks like Trix grain with supreme sharpness.
@DANIELMILNOR505
@DANIELMILNOR505 3 года назад
Good God. TRIX in D76 1:1. That is magic. Just think how many people used that model.
@IanMcCausland
@IanMcCausland 3 года назад
Love your TSA tips, I did this all the time, 2 1/4 transparencies, one big ziploc, show up early be polite, beg for hand check
@DANIELMILNOR505
@DANIELMILNOR505 3 года назад
Ian, and even then you have to be prepared for all kinds of oddity. From "No problem, we love film," to "Every single flight to America is high risk so if you don't XRAY you can't board."
@TheBigNegative-PhotoChannel
@TheBigNegative-PhotoChannel 3 года назад
Does someone say film? 😄I am immediately here. Awesome video! As I said 6 months ago in your last movie video. I love these stories where you worked at Kodak as there are few left who can share this information. especially on youtube.
@DANIELMILNOR505
@DANIELMILNOR505 3 года назад
Yes, four years at Eastern Coatrack Company. I served four years as we used to say. Loved it. Great people, great time and a company that we all owe huge props too. Kodak got the very beginnings of the Internet hate world we now all live in. It was very popular at one at time to bash Kodak for all photo industry woes.
@magnusa.5599
@magnusa.5599 3 года назад
i devour pretty every video you put out. but i seriously enjoy those film stuff the most. feels the most crafty. so pmax and tmax 400 are next on my list to try out. thanks for the work you put into making this content. highly appreciated. cheers from the former photokina-city, cologne germany.
@DANIELMILNOR505
@DANIELMILNOR505 3 года назад
Dude, I got chewed out by a hotel clerk in Cologne, for being late after my plane was delayed. I love Germany! I too love the film stuff but just don't get much time with it these days.
@keithfox2995
@keithfox2995 2 года назад
great video, I love tri-x in 4x5, It does have tons of latitude!! I process in Rodinal , or Pyrocat HD.
@tangyorange6509
@tangyorange6509 3 года назад
My first bulk roll was Tmax 400, love it
@DANIELMILNOR505
@DANIELMILNOR505 3 года назад
Mine was TRIX. Scratches and all.
@RohamBroccoli
@RohamBroccoli 3 года назад
Milnor, you are Gandalv in film world🧙🏻‍♂️
@colinosullivan930
@colinosullivan930 3 года назад
Funny how I switched this video on just before developing two rolls of tri x in rodinal, photos taken with my m4! I discovered film after digital but I absolutely love it! I am gonna order a few rolls of p3200 and see how I get on. Given Ireland had dark winters this might be perfect rated at 1250 🇮🇪
@DANIELMILNOR505
@DANIELMILNOR505 3 года назад
You are gonna love it.
@joeltunnah
@joeltunnah 3 года назад
I spent 2020 getting reacquainted with film after an 8 year break, and it turned out that tmax 100 + rodinal (1+50, 18 minutes) is my favorite combination out of all the Ilford and Kodak b&w films. The tonality is just beautiful, and the grain is obvious and pleasant. Same for tmax 400. Haven’t tried p3200 yet. “The Film Developing Cookbook” (Troop/Anchell) recommends using HP5 now instead of Tri-X since the 2007 reformulation. Kodak Alaris is unfortunately not afraid of messing with a classic product. The economic disorder in the world doesn’t help film either as investors dump fiat currency into precious metals like silver.
@DANIELMILNOR505
@DANIELMILNOR505 3 года назад
Companies began pulling heavy metal and silver out in the 90's. The papers before that were incredible. The papers after, not as much. Rodinal is so thrilling.
@mrca2004
@mrca2004 2 года назад
I shoot hp5 because it is several dollars cheaper than TriX and has a huge range so for street, I get always get usable negs and it is not as contrasty so I can add that in post.
@joeltunnah
@joeltunnah 2 года назад
@@mrca2004 you can adjust the contrast of either film by playing with the exposure, developer, agitation, and development times. Lots of fun, but time consuming to sort it all out. For less contrasty Tri-X, overexpose and underdevelop. Then there’s stand development… have fun.
@mattkaram3842
@mattkaram3842 3 года назад
Thanks for all your videos and actionable advice. I’ve come back to 35mm film and started making one-off books for myself (T-Max 400 was my go to years ago). The last 2 years I have been shooting just Tri-X 400 and processing exclusively with Rodinal. I thought I’d stop with Rodinal after 100 rolls but that was awhile ago and seems I’ve just scratched the surface. I would love to see a deep dive video on Tri-X sometime if you’re feeling generous. Keep up the good work.
@DANIELMILNOR505
@DANIELMILNOR505 3 года назад
Matt, it's coming. I wish I still had access to my darkroom. Lyme took it away from me, which is okay.
@geastman
@geastman 3 года назад
I was either using TMax 400 or TMZ shooting in an Opera House. If I thought the overall lighting wasn't 'enough' then I'd use TMZ and expose it at 1600. For a newspaper review, it was totally fine!
@DANIELMILNOR505
@DANIELMILNOR505 3 года назад
We use to have to shoot it at 6400 with a 300mm f/2 Nikon lens. Not 300 2.8. But a 300 f/2 which has a front element the size of a dinner plate.
@geastman
@geastman 3 года назад
@@DANIELMILNOR505 My main lens was a Nikon 80-200 2.8, heavy enough, and always handheld. Shutter speeds often were under 1/60, and I remember shooting as low as 1/4! Sometimes a blurry arm or body produced an artistic shot.
@ColinOYoung
@ColinOYoung 2 года назад
I love listening to this, though I haven't clue what you're on about. Much like I Iove reading poetry, without any know-etry And IHC-110. If we're talking film languages I'd guess this is like Serbo-Croat.
@DANIELMILNOR505
@DANIELMILNOR505 2 года назад
Just film stuff.
@jmsaylor22
@jmsaylor22 3 года назад
All this talk about film and pozole, now I want some pozole.
@DANIELMILNOR505
@DANIELMILNOR505 3 года назад
Nothing better on a cold day.
@pierremairesse6767
@pierremairesse6767 3 года назад
I'm an HP5+ man but I'll try a couple of roll of Tmax you got me!
@DANIELMILNOR505
@DANIELMILNOR505 3 года назад
This latest gen was really nice.
@mrjohnbaseley
@mrjohnbaseley 3 года назад
@16:52 "This is harsh..this is like washing your car with sandpaper..." - *spits wine onto Ezio Monitor in laughter*
@DANIELMILNOR505
@DANIELMILNOR505 3 года назад
I've tried it. Not recommended.
@Crsmo322
@Crsmo322 3 года назад
You've convinced me, I'm going to go get me some pozole.
@DANIELMILNOR505
@DANIELMILNOR505 3 года назад
you can't go wrong.
@kalaharistuart
@kalaharistuart 3 года назад
002 your best yet, love the passion and what a dream to have choices in film and development until you found your grove eccentric and excellent, thank you 🙏
@DANIELMILNOR505
@DANIELMILNOR505 3 года назад
Choices, that we have. Can sometimes be a challenge to make a decision but that's a good place to be.
@andresmills7915
@andresmills7915 3 года назад
What does "expose for the fireball" mean? Is that a spin on the sunny 16 mantra? Anyway I wanted to say that I love the high accutance grain I get from tri x in rodinal and is my favorite/most used combination now, and I almost didn't initially try it because of what I read on various forums while researching it, saying it was a bad combination etc, and hearing you mention it in a good light reinforces my love for the images I've made with it.
@DANIELMILNOR505
@DANIELMILNOR505 3 года назад
Ah, it's just a joke a friend of mine used to say. TRIX and Rodinal is gorgeous.
@stefanol9272
@stefanol9272 3 года назад
😎😎😎 I agree Tri X is a really good film I also loaded my bag with Tri x 400 here
@DANIELMILNOR505
@DANIELMILNOR505 3 года назад
Hard to go wrong with that film.
@stefanol9272
@stefanol9272 3 года назад
@@DANIELMILNOR505 Absolutely and never understood why some do not like grains 🙂🙂🙂
@ChristineWilsonPhotography
@ChristineWilsonPhotography 3 года назад
I loved those films Tmax and Tri X Ilford was the one I used mostly toward the end before I changed to digital , there was a period there for a while when grain was a thing , people, wanted in their shots , I see Ilford have released a little camera looks interesting.
@DANIELMILNOR505
@DANIELMILNOR505 3 года назад
Wow, they released a camera? I'm so out of the loop.
@ChristineWilsonPhotography
@ChristineWilsonPhotography 3 года назад
Its a sprite 35-11 with film a fixed shutter sp 120 and fixed ap @ f9 similar to the sprite released in the 60s very simple p&s film camera , love the idea of back to basics depreview have a review
@boozelala
@boozelala 3 года назад
Shooting digital is fun, but when I was in school we shot on old praktica's and developed eveything from roll to picture, it was the only class I never skipped. 20 years later, I still own that same camera we used, an old disintegrating Praktica, but it still work and I love that camera. Maybe I should just buy some rolls and use it again (If there is something to replace the murcury battery with)
@DANIELMILNOR505
@DANIELMILNOR505 3 года назад
Sure, give it a shot. See what happens.
@mvonwalter6927
@mvonwalter6927 3 года назад
I started with HC110 and Fuji Acros and then got heavily into Rodinal stand developing. Finally deved TriX in D76 for the first time last year and loved it. So backwards lol
@DANIELMILNOR505
@DANIELMILNOR505 3 года назад
Yes, that is "what is old is new."
@Msaxplayer1
@Msaxplayer1 Год назад
Thank you for the Tmax3200 wisdom! Great film sir. I have a brick of it that is expired from 2014. Should I treat it differently when shooting? Thank you!
@DANIELMILNOR505
@DANIELMILNOR505 Год назад
Not really. Depends on a little on how it was kept. Shoot a test roll.
@naokimatsuda1010
@naokimatsuda1010 3 года назад
NICE!
@whakabuti
@whakabuti 3 года назад
Please make a video on using Tri-X! There's so much to learn for a film newbie like myself.
@macwoj101
@macwoj101 3 года назад
I wish you had stoppeed longer while showing your prints... I am all for darkroom prints.
@DANIELMILNOR505
@DANIELMILNOR505 3 года назад
Ya, I probably should have. Next time.
@carrieannkouri2151
@carrieannkouri2151 3 года назад
I once had TMZ rolls I shot in Venice ruined going through airport x-ray...
@DANIELMILNOR505
@DANIELMILNOR505 3 года назад
CTX 5000 will cook a film first pass. I see them inside terminals from time to time but they are mostly used for checked bags. I have had TMZ base fogged but only after multiple exposures. Airport security rarely know their game and often lie about film.
@GaetanCormier
@GaetanCormier 3 года назад
I only shoot film and Rodinal and HC-110 are my goto developpers... Gotta love Rodinal soup! :)
@DANIELMILNOR505
@DANIELMILNOR505 3 года назад
the best
@KNURKonesur
@KNURKonesur 3 года назад
Caffenol for me. Simple, cheap and kinda environmentally friendly.
@nickfanzo
@nickfanzo 3 года назад
Love me some tmaxx with my Leica stuff
@sharkbaitmedia1
@sharkbaitmedia1 3 года назад
I worked at a daily paper with ten staff photographers. We shot colour as our go-to film but every once and a while someone would shoot a roll of t-max. We processed it in a large black kodak deep tank, I think it held 3 1/2 gallons of chemistry and had a floating lid. We would change the chemistry every six months, whether it needed it or not. It was t-max liquid developer and gave the most subtle tones with no grain. I've never bin able to repeat the process with the current developer and film. Is there any reason you can think of why this would work so well? I'm looking for fine grain for 120 portraits, not super big grain with darkroom prints. Should I keep working the t-max liquid or is there something else you would suggest for full tone and low grain.
@DANIELMILNOR505
@DANIELMILNOR505 3 года назад
Man, that latest generation Tmax 400 was so fine grained and so nice I was shocked. I used it in my Blad just as I was walking away from photography. Kodak sent me beta rolls and I thought it was grand. I used Xtol to process.
@gui4j
@gui4j 3 года назад
Think we are going to have to get you to model those string bathing suites and film cases . Monies on those shots going viral !!😬😬😬😬
@DANIELMILNOR505
@DANIELMILNOR505 3 года назад
If I was a "normal" RU-vidr hunting likes and subs I'd be wearing it now and using it as my thumbnail. #shameless.
@35mmlove_eric
@35mmlove_eric 3 года назад
I can print P3200 OK when it’s developed right. Had to change how I shoot it and develop it to make it printable in the darkroom. Not as straight forward as Tri-X but definitely doable once you get the hang of it.
@DANIELMILNOR505
@DANIELMILNOR505 3 года назад
That's right. Take experimenting. TRIX is a dream.
@toniwonkanobi
@toniwonkanobi 3 года назад
This guy kinda reminds me of a hipster Rob Lowe :) Also, this review is legitimate. Despite my quip about hipsterism, this guy is the antithesis of hipster: he actually knows what he's talking about.
@DANIELMILNOR505
@DANIELMILNOR505 3 года назад
I'm fifty-two. A bit late to the hipster game I fear. "Are either of you two hipsters?" "No, but we are willing, will they send us somewhere special?" (Movie reference...........)
@danielanderson5931
@danielanderson5931 3 года назад
I really enjoy your takes on photography, It's pretty refreshing and It's made me focus on black and white more, as well as shooting with one camera and lens. I can't wait to get my darkroom setup started as well. Do you have any advice on getting access for documentary projects where you just have a concept in mind but haven't reached out to anyone yet?
@DANIELMILNOR505
@DANIELMILNOR505 3 года назад
Nope. You just research, find connections you think might have the patience to listen and you start. Just be prepared to hear "no." It's a modern affliction.
@DiviPhotos
@DiviPhotos 3 года назад
Cool
@christ6327
@christ6327 3 года назад
Daniel, I need my lightbulb moment with this film, please help! I understand the basic concepts of pushing and pulling. When my camera reads the DX coding on the cartridge it reads it at 3200. My lab (Richard’s Photo Lab in CA) processes the film at 3200. You say the actual film speed is around 1250. The Kodak spec sheet says it’s about 1000 but for ease of calculations rounds it to 800. So I know if I meter for 3200 Richards is going to process it at 3200. Now my question is, if I shoot it at the lower speeds (800, 1000, 1250, 1600, etc), is the recommendation to: a) meter for the lower speed and let it naturally be push developed at the labs 3200 or b) meter at the lower speed then tell my lab I need to pull process the film to the lower speed I.e. meter at 1600 and have the lab develop based on times for 1600. Thanks in advance!!!
@DANIELMILNOR505
@DANIELMILNOR505 3 года назад
I save money on the push and pull, just rate the film, and your meter at 1250 then shoot according to what the meter says. then just tell them to process "normal." All you are doing is giving those negs a little extra light, which it needs, because the film isn't actually 3200 in speed without a push. Does that make sense?
@christ6327
@christ6327 3 года назад
@@DANIELMILNOR505 I think so! Meter for 1250, essentially overexposing a stop and a half-ish to give it the extra light. When the lab processes at 3200 it’s essentially pushing it for you without the extra cost. And if I’m understanding correctly, metering at 3200 and developing normally at 3200 is basically under-exposing it, since it’s technically a slower film.
@unpocodeluz_atill
@unpocodeluz_atill 3 года назад
You have to try D76 1+3. With this dilution, it changes from a compensator developer to a high acutance one. Like Rodinal, but better...
@DANIELMILNOR505
@DANIELMILNOR505 3 года назад
Sound right up my alley. I rarely, however, process film these days. Or shoot for that matter.
@nigeldawson8218
@nigeldawson8218 3 года назад
Ever work with Scala, the black and white positive film? I did in 4X5, loved it.
@DANIELMILNOR505
@DANIELMILNOR505 3 года назад
Oh ya. There was a Scala lab near my house. Cool, cool stuff.
@romanwolujewicz
@romanwolujewicz 3 года назад
Hi Dan, great video on TMZ. I recently tried using it for the first time (based on an earlier vid of yours recommending) and the scans that came back were awesome, so thanks! Quick unrelated question, where would someone who wanted to buy your Sicily project book be able to find it?
@DANIELMILNOR505
@DANIELMILNOR505 3 года назад
Glad it worked out. Sicily book isn't for sale. I"m so sick of looking at that work I can't stand it. Sorry
@LuisGodinez
@LuisGodinez 3 года назад
Ads still loading and I’m getting the popcorn ready.
@DANIELMILNOR505
@DANIELMILNOR505 3 года назад
Extra butter.
@BackFocus11
@BackFocus11 3 года назад
I’m more of a Tri-X pushed kind of guy. T-max is my second choice when I want less contrast.
@DANIELMILNOR505
@DANIELMILNOR505 3 года назад
Both decent paths.
@inconnu4642
@inconnu4642 3 года назад
Greaat!
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