Thank you for this. My heart hurts because i knew right away it was deceptive. I only joined because 2 of my children are in it. So I joined so i could know what they are being taught. I didn't see it immediately but after the New John was introduced I knew where it was heading. The manipulation is strong. I pray i can get my 2 children to see it.
Yep I got 7 months in and that hit me with this bombshell about their belief of the trinity and that Jesus wasn’t at the beginning etc The Holy Spirit compelled Me to speak. There were red flags but I wanted to be committed to Gods word but I was also studying on my own and towards the intermediate class it all began to become so clear. My heart was racing as I was speaking out in class and I met with the instructor after and she was not able to provide with scripture about the one who overcomes etc. definitely a antichrist spirit over the entire church. I’m saddened I wasn’t able to warn the other students except one of the brother and he immediately did his research and came to the same understanding. Praise God the Holy Spirit spoke to me. In the beginning I was still learning but Someone prayed for me as well and revealed to me that his prayer was answered by God speaking and telling literally in my mind as they were explaining about watch out for false doctrines the Holy Spirit was telling me this is a false doctrine this is the false teacher over and over again. So I dropped it and continued my own bible study’s with friends and family. Their whole organization will be destroyed it’s sad that they are misleading so many people that just want a home in Christ.
My sister do you know what you're saying, you're saying words like "antichrist" an antichrist is someone that does not acknowledge that Jesus was sent by God and came to die for all. And Shincheonji is no anti-christ, did you even get to study the word and understand it? I'm feeling sad that you're thinking that way, it is said that this generation will just be like that of Noah, when the flood destroyed the people and they did not believe Noah and they thought he was crazy. Even today Shincheonji is the ark which all belivers must run to and be saved. It is bad to claim many things when you don't know exactly what you're talking about
I left about six months ago and was in it for about a year. It was kind of scary and I thought I was wrong for not understanding and believing it while I was in there, but then I finally left after they told me to leave because I wasn’t willing to accept what they were teaching
By your saying this, I feel that it could be your own husband making that decision or it could be his family causing him to do that, or it could be you not speaking factually or from your own perception of things. I am attending the classes and still discerning things out (to be fair, one should before making any conclusion right?) and in no way did any teachers teach us that we should separate ourselves from our family. In fact, the teachers share how it is basic of humans to take care of their family (parents, spouse, children).. the main leader shares even the people from other religions do that, even dogs and cats and animals take care and protect those that belong to them. And how we must fulfill our basic duties even better so that it will not cause us uninvited persecution to attend classes. So, I don't believe that they teach your husband to separate from your family. :)
@@Dandelion_flightit’s already happened. They don’t come right out and say it. They do it slowly and nicely over time. Notice how classes went to more and more days, from 2 days to 3, from 3 days to plus Sunday. If you’re still there I’d ask about LMH claims. Ask about revelation 7 being fulfilled and why he claimed Covid was the tribulation and that meant that 144,000 were sealed but they actually are not. Ask about his prior cult activity from where his doctrine lends from.
I met them today up at our Town centre here in New Zealand and realised very quickly it’s a cult after listening and speaking to one of the members. They recruited a young lady while I was listening next to them and felt like telling her it’s a cult but wanted to talk to the first. I was able to connect with the person and allow the Holy Spirit to move do he ended up getting overwhelmed by the presence of God which he hadn’t experienced before. I told him to make an effort to pursue a deeper relationship with God and that the gospel is as simple as Jesus died for our sins and rose again and he is the bridge foe our relationship with God and to allow the Holy Spirit to bring truth as you read the word as he is the helper and comforter.I said we will connect again next week and chat more.
I would like to hear from someone who left about how the fulfillment training is taught and whether it’s real or not. Because they show you videos and photos of the “fulfillment”.
It's interesting that at about the 13:00 mark she says they gaslit her with the verse where God says "My thoughts are higher than your thoughts" "and they stretch that as far as they can". I can think of another very common group that this channel deals with that gaslights people with that exact same verse.
You can find the books on these links, on the Google docs link in the article written by the ex-member. So you can see for yourself the teaching materials they are using. docs.google.com/document/d/e/2PACX-1vTMBhZBXiGunJZamQxM-qphO2lXX8eqVp-XkHKotmlkhq6nZxgkIFDpaI-voXft4Q/pub
You can find the books on these links, on the Google docs link in the article written by the ex-member. So you can see for yourself the teaching materials they are using.
@4:33 from my recent attending the class, it is not true that SCJ doesn't care about Jesus or what he has done. In fact, the teacher shared about how God is so serious about sin and He does not want us to go to hell. That God had to sacrifice Jesus and without Jesus’s work, we can’t have salvation. If she says that SCJ does not care about what Jesus has done in the first coming, she is really wrong. :)
She also said that you are okay to lie for the kingdom. Hopefully your eyes open and I pray that you will be protected from people spiritually abusing you with using fear and shame.
@@bigl512 You really really lack understanding from your words. You are speaking from your own worldly wisdom. I hope you will have true humility to really seek for God’s real wisdom. The choice is yours.
@@saasa3146 Well just to be clear. I dont think there is such a thing as an evil spirit to begin with. However, I do acknowledge that some people have experiences that they are convinced is a result of evil spirits.
I am really curious as to what sort of discipline she had for letting her new member go visit her family. Was it just some questioning? I think it is no big deal. We all make silly decisions outside and inside church, members or leaders alike. We are all not perfected yet. We should all keep a humble attitude if corrected. If we are wronged, then pray for the ones who wronged us. That's what Jesus told us. Let God be the Judge, not us. :)
As far as Im aware, it is only human beings who have judged things throughout history. I have no problem with human judgment as long as its informed by reliable methods for acquiring knowledge.
Dandelion : My Teacher said me to leave of my church cause they don't have reveal word and If I still there I'll be like A dog returns to its vomit,” (2 Peter 2:22) They quoted it they always will quote that. They manipulated to me and all my exs classmates have serious problems they (SCJ teachers) take advantage from it. Firts they congratulate you then they'll may you to be obedient, They recalled you to do specific thing to be "teacher" to evangelize. This is the only way to be saved abd have eternal life.
How can you take 5 years in Cult.That mean you don't have knowledge of what you believe in . Shincheonji will prove everyone wrong,the same thing happen to Jesus ,Jesus was killed by those who where waiting for him.
It seems like she is sticking to her own standard of righteousness by what she says @4:33. Of course what Jesus has done for us in the first coming matters so much. Without what Jesus did how can there be Revelation? How can there be his second coming? But since we are living in the time of the second coming, then we must obey what Jesus is doing in Revelation. We don't live in the first coming. We have to stick to God's standard of righteousness and that includes today, which is the time of Revelation. So she is saying that we should 'rest' on what Jesus has done on the cross, so we can just chill? So we do not need to overcome according to what Jesus says in Rev 2-3? So we do not need to bear fruit and heal the world? So her God is a God who does not have rules to follow and it is free range? Does her bible contain Revelation? Which Jesus is she worshipping? :)
This is really the same thing which happened in the times of Noah😅 We have to be careful and understand the Bible we have to be harvested everyone. We should clearly understand the book of revelation and the entire Bible. I hope the best you can validate all what you are saying with bible stop lying to people on your words.
In Shincheonji, everything is orderly , just like in God's kingdom in heaven. Don't decide on something , you are not supposed to,inform your superior to keep a count of your sheeps where they go. It is a leadership practice.
@@SCJSkeptic Speaking of control it sounds not good, no one likes to be controlled. But control is only good if it is by the Spirit of God. When the Spirit of God controls one's life , evil has no place in your heart.
@@SCJSkeptic if one knows the Word of God , he is then controlled by the Spirit of God. Know that God's words are unchanging, what He promised will absolutely fulfill. Please read Rom 8:5-8.
