Shinko E-804 and E-805 Crossfly Dual Sport Adventure Tires - Ultimate Value Tire 

You have the best, most comprehensive and down-to-earth tire reviews on the internet. Well done man to you and the team, I know it takes a lot of work making these videos.

Ive got about 4000 miles on set of these on a gs1200 adventure. I live in Vancouver BC, and its wet here on tarmac a lot fo the year with greasy section so I always look for a soft compound tire thats is great in the wet. Also need something for occasional tougher offroad sections, they dont come up very often but when they do and Im loaded down I want all the traction I can get. Ive run a GS1200 for about 10 years now and have tried a lot of different tires, Metzeler Tourance Through TKC80 on the GSA. TKC would bum me out because I was only getting like 4000 miles or less even on a rear with loaded bike (And Im 260lbs as well). Heidenau last forever I got about 12k miles on a set with those but they are slippy in the wet and noisy up front. The TKC 70 I thought was my fav, and got about 10k miles with them, very good off-road in all but sand and rock, but stay away, anything over 60mph and the front end starts rattling around. I thought something was wrong with my bike for a good long time and it made riding not even fun. Mitas e05 is pretty solid, just did the job but not outstanding off road. In the end for the price the shinko 80x is the move for me on this big bike. they are cheap enough I can flip a new rear on every 7000 and a front too (could go another 3000 overt the rear probably from looks of it) for about 225 bucks to my door, which isn't even worth thinking about for what this tire does, and the other costs that go into this hobby. I noticed also as Kyle does that they can push a bit in the corners, but that goes away after the first 10% wear or so once the tires settle in and those corners come off.. Then they are very easy to ride with very gradual slip even when pushed pretty hard. Im just back from 2000 miles on twistys and I enjoyed them all the way through. Best thing is NO DRONE AT ALL from these tires. Stay safe out there guys... Great Vids Kyle thanks for putting the work in on them.

I had a 705 on my rear tire on my old bike and it was flawless. Now I have a couple of 705 on my F800GS and they are awesome 🏍✔

Running 705s on my V-strom 650 now, had 804/805s previously. I think Kyle reflects accurately the capabilities and feel of both tire sets. The 804/805s hold notably better offroad with great acceleration traction though the back will slip a bit side to side when pushed hard off pavement. The 705s are smooth on paved wet or dry and just a bit ass-happy on gravel. The rear slide is easily controlled with throttle modulation, very predictable. The 705 front keeps me wide awake off pavement, though it gets the job done. I don't know which I'll buy next, maybe a blend of 805 rear and keep running my 705 front. I ran the 804/805s for 6,000 miles, I have 4,500 miles on the 705s now with no measurable wear showing on the front, maybe 1,500 miles or so left on the rear. I ride with "considerable enthusiasm" off pavement (5%), conservatively on road (95%). I have purchased lots of tires from Chapparal and always had quick shipping, great service and the best prices I could find. Thank you for the honest reviews, dirt naps and all, they really are helpful~

I really appreciate this tire series. Thank you so much. I currently am running an 804 on the front of my r1200gs, and the road characteristics are unbelievably good. I have nowhere close to your skill level of off-road riding but for what I use them for in dirt roads, they’re perfect

Awesome side by side review of the 705 & 805 tires. I recently purchased the 705s for my Super Tenere, having used them on my DRZ400. The way you captured your test reviews a day apart on the same trail is excellent! I now know which tire to choose if I want to tackle more serious terrain in the future.

These really are the best off-road ADV value out there but you can't run them at 30psi on the road, raise the pressure a bit and you'll see these perform better - on the R1200GSA and at proper road pressure they work very well - I've done 7+k miles on these tires and outside of vibration when worn, these tires were quite amazing - I've tested now the Karoo Street and the Amakee Adventures and neither was anywhere near the 804/805 in the off-road - on the street, of course, the Karoo & Anakee are hugely better - however, I found the 805 better than the Karoo 3 rear off-road in some common off-road conditions, even in sand, it was a wash (pun intended) though they did feel dissimilar but got the job done with a little adjustment in rider clutch and throttle. The Karoo 3 front though is significantly better than the 804 off-road but on road, the 804, pressured properly, felt better and more planted at speed on the R1200GSA with full tank, panniers and trunk - very big downside to 804/805 is the speed rating of only 99mph - yikes - I did push it past that a few times passing big trucks in the middle of nowhere but I did feel pretty nervous about it! in any case thanks for the nice review and ride footage!

Best tire trials out there. Great work to put them all through this for an even comparison. Kyle and Chaparral, you guys are the only necessary go-to required, for people trying to decide what they need.

And this is how a review should be done! Thanks very informational!

Great review! I’ve got about 9000kms on a set of 804/805 mounted on a Moto Guzzi V85tt… I find that the front really likes to track and wobble all over the place on gravel and sand, it’s actually fairly difficult to ride those type of terrain’s and find them pretty scary in the rain. My over all take on these is- if you want a budget tire to get you through your off-road adventures not a horrible choice, if you ride mostly on road, these are not my first choice especially if you live where it rains a lot- that back end slides out a lot while cornering. TKC 70 rocks might be my next choice for a rear tire. I’d really love to see you do a review on the Rocks tire but mounted on a heavier bike .

Great review, great tires. I went through many sets of these and they are flawless both on and offroad. I had the rear slip once and it was within the first 100km. After that I would grind pegs on my Scrambler no problems. These are better than the TKC80 in just about every way, and half the price. They are obviously not sport tires, but no 50/50 tires will be :)

Used them on my DRZ400 for singletrack and enduro type riding. Loved mine for everything except slick grass, dirt or mud. In any slick situation the rear got really slide happy. They're worn down enough at about 3k miles that I can justify replacing them Actually ordered some Motoz RallyZ yesterday based on your review and explanation of them!

Nice review. Really liked the comparison. I wish you would do a round up summary of all the tires in the "dual sport" arena.

Tire review? Or skills training? I learned more about how to ride in your two Shinko reviews than in the dozen or so Bret Tkacs vids. I'm also sold on the 705's. Many thanks.

Glad I found this channel, I've bought off of you on E-bay 👍 great hands on reviews

Love my 804/805's on my Tenere. I would strongly suggest going with the higher pressures. I tested them in Colorado off road and found the higher pressures actually gave more control in the dirt, I was at 36 psi and felt they worked best for me. Would love to see a follow up video to this one. Good job!

hey bro, it's me from fb... just got my kenda big blocks in today... putting them on my ktm duke 390 in the am... i'm cool with the noise and on road squirming that comes with a 50/50 tire ;) and i will be shooting you some vids of me tearing it up here on the beach in corpus where i live... thanks for your work!!!

Real nice video review!! I’m currently on the hunt for tires for my klr650.

Thanks, Kyle, for this awesome tire review! I just ordered a set for my XR650L.

I think the Battlax Adventurecross AX41's might be slightly better. The best combo might be a Battlax front and 805 rear. I'd like to see a shootout between the two and the a combination of the two

how many of you have tried a 705 rear and a 804 front for "best of both worlds"?

Would be nice to see the comparison done with some muddy areas as well.

804 will wash out in mud and wet trails. It works well when dry but come around a corner where the trail is wet and it will wash out without warning. I live in Virginia where the trails stay wet and covered with leaves. I’m thinking about trying the MotoZ Desert H/T. Has anyone tried them on the wet trails and mud of the eastern woods? I feel like they will last longer than the Scorpion Rally’s. I would also like to know if the MotoZ Rallyz would do well in mud and wet trails compared to the Desert H/T? I’m riding an Africa Twin.

Love my 805/805s! Can’t beat em for the price. Anyway, were you still aired down on the road sections of the video? Would the squirm be lessened if normal pressure or not? Thx!

Man, nice I just ordered a set of these 804/805 for my new versys x300 did you have to balance these tire's !

Outstanding as always!

Honda!

How about an 804 on the front and a 705 on the back? Since the rear wears fast and I go 2 hours on the freeway to get to the mountains, then I want the front to be knobbier for the dirt, less likely to wreck :)

The 804/805 is the best big bore dual sport tire ever made. Very predictable in the dirt on my 2013 1190R KTM and I've dusted many a repli racer on the pavement in the tight corners.

How do they compare on wet asphalt with one of the MotoZ tractionator tires or the Karoo 3? Thanks for the good reviews

You can see the difference.

Great vids really enjoy them Have a question about the tubeless system are they safe to run on like an Africa twin front tire

Hey Kyle great video reviews, I’m glad I came across this looking for tire reviews on RU-vid. I have a question that is not tires related. Which is the brand and model of the helmet you are using in this video? Is dual sport or street? Thanks!!!

No side bite on the 805 unless they remodeled it.

I'm going to try these on my 2014 Suzuki V Strom 1000. Currently running 705's the front is terrible in this Florida sugar sand. It washes out left to right uncontrollably...

I don't think I've seen that angle of how far you had those tired leaned on pavement. That was a great shot. I seen how fast you were taking those rallyz tires on asphalt. And it looked like you were deep but the angle you had for this vid was great. I won't the most knobby tire that I can still trust on pavement. I'm a heavy guy at 300 plus. So I don't like a real squirmy knobby. I have the weight to push the knobby over. Which 50/50 tire or more off road oriented tire have you had the most confidence on pavement to this point?

The 805 digs in a lot deeper.

How many psi off road for ( 804-805) also(705 front and rear) ???

I'm wondering how these tires did on the freeway with the rain grooves you didn't mention anything about that

How loud did you find them on the highway? Smooth or vibrations?

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Anyone running the 804 705 combo? Looking for more ks out of the rear.

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I'd like to have something more dirt worthy than the 705, but every time I try something more knobby, the road noise and vibrations just aren't worth it.

How do these compare to the Anakee Wilds and and the Motoz Tractionator Adventure tires?

That's a DCT A.T.? Sounded like one at 10:24 where you accel' + I think I see no clutch lever..

how good is the lateral traction on the 805/804? seems like they would easily slide out on off-camber or braking in grassy areas? how does the motoz Rallz compare to these shinko 804/805's both on & off road? thx Kyle! ;)

On a wet road the 705 will be SO MUCH better than 805. The 705 is FAR better on pavement. Anyone who is on pavement more than 50% of the time should go with the 705.

were is this riding area? in the mountains at minute 22..

what about the 700s

With the AF (or any higher spec bike) are the Shinko’s really worth the cost of their installation? I rub through a lot of tires but, more than the cost of the tires, it’s the installation costs I resent. So, doesn’t the Africa Twin “deserve” better (IE: more expensive) tires? My not so rational mindset tells me if I’m paying that much to install the tires, I may as well spend 30% more and get the best performance possible. Opinions?

No, the knobby is too thin. It is designed to fail sooner than the Dunlop 606 (I employed the D606 from Canada past San Francisco and back on 2,500 mile road trips at posted speed limits). And off-road also. I'm using the Shinko 700 inferior design this 2023 to refresh skills that I lost after going with D606. after 2008. Have a nice day. Bye-bye.........

He said "yesterday" literally hundreds of times in this video