Shiny Pokemon Give You An Advantage In Battles... Here's Why. 

"I don’t know if Greninja is Protean or Battle Bond until I watch inside the box." "I run Torrent." "Shut up."

You also don't want to run shiny treasures of ruin or any of the Gen 9 legendaries, that will get you disqualified

I remember another thing about Ash-Greninja: It was always set to be male, so if your opponent sent out a female Greninja, you'd know it couldn't be Ash-Greninja

_"imagine this is anything that isn't a level 4 Rattata"_ Imagine a level 3 Rattata, got it

Shout outs to Gen 5 VGC, where everyone ran definitely legitimate shiny Pokemon who also just so happened to have perfect IV's and optimal natures in the era before bottle caps and nature mints.

I mean if you selectively breed a Pokémon thousands of time just to get funky colors i would think that the stats at least good

Fun fact: due to a programming oversight in Pokémon Colloseum, it is possible for your shadow Pokémon to become shiny after you catch as the mons OT number would be overwritten by the player's OT number. While it was fixed in XD Gales of Darkness, it's still a fun tidbit

9:15 Oddly enough, it was possible to get shiny shadow pokemon in Collosseum and is why they are used for the All ribbon challenge

Shiny hunting Tatsugiri is like hell, especially when you have to squint your eyes everytime you see one to see if it's shiny. Personally I don't think it would be worth it

Everyone knows you run Celebrate Vaporeon to run out the clock

Before I even watch gonna guess: Stall teams, shiny sparkles taking up time, HP left.

10:17 whoa who's that haha

"They must have amnesia, they forgot that I'm shiny locked"

For Gyarados, there were other ways of getting Bounce. In Platinum, Gyarados and Magikarp could learn it via move tutor, Magikarp could get it from the Pokewalker in Gen IV and Dream World in Gen V.

Shiny galar birds (except zapdos) is comedy gold if it somehow works

"Jealous" As if 99 times out of 100 that team isnt entirely genned

I paid to be in the outro and it was worth it. Jokes aside, i love your essay content and am so glad my contribution helps you out and all the content i love. Keep it up man!

Listening to you talk about niche Pokémon VGC facts while the logic theme from persona 4 plays is uniquely entertaining; big fan of this style of content

the advantage shinies give is that they Look Cool and therefor I Hit Harder for real though thats super cool something thats just cosmetic does have that small upper hand (or detriment) to em in high comp play

I think that everyone should run shinys so that they can be distributed

love this channel. ever since i subscribed i grew to 6'2

You could tell if the shiny beast doesn't have event moves if it's not in a Cherish Ball in later generations

Btw did you know that greninja cant have battle bond if shiny?

Fun part of using full shinies is I assume my opponents just think im using hacked mons and don’t know how to play. Especially on casual lololol ^^’

One I remember from reading a smogon analysis is that Genescect must always be shiny. An event distributed a shiny Genescect with shift gear, a potent boosting move. This was good enough set to even be part of one of the recommended sets, as opposed to a choice scarf set which operates entirely differently (boosing sweeper vs momentum pivot), making this one of the most important mons to have as a shiny (outside Greninja, of course).

surprised you didn't mention that in gen 2 because of the way shinies are generated shinies are usually if not always worse than the standard counterpart

Ah, Pokemon mind games. Will never forget the first time my best friend hit my Mega Venusaur with a fire attack. It has Thick Fat but still pops up that "it's super effective!"

So you're saying that Greninja would not be optimal if it was black or a woman

I love that you popped off, I’ve been here since you had like 3k viewers per video. It’s great content and I’m glad you’ve had success!

Shiny rayquaza was unable to have V-Create, that’s the only other example I can think of

Good thing nature mints let us use shiny koko. Still mad that the removal of transfer moves means heatran lost eruption. Just one gen after it could run it with a timid nature too.

For the gen 2 trio in gen 4 singles, there is an important note you glanced over. The shiny optimization for Suicune and Raikou (and Entei if you don't want adamant nature) have suboptimal fixed natures. Suicune has relaxed (negative speed) and Raikou has Rash (negative sp. def). So if you want to bluff Aura Sphere Raikou, you have to run rash nature instead of something like timid/modest. The reason for this is that the trio were only given out in a Cherish Ball. There are no legitimate ways of getting a shiny non-rash Raikou in a cherish ball in gen 4. In the games you can see what type of pokeball your opponent uses for each Pokemon. So for VGC you have to run rash Raikou to bluff Aura Sphere. But the issue is that Smogon (primary place for gen 4 singles) does not show the ball of the opponent's Pokemon. This is a problem because it means you can run a shiny Timid Raikou to bluff Aura Sphere and it is indistinguishable from an event shiny rash Raikou. This means in singles, there is a FALSE OPTIMIZATION. This optimization is still a thing but it is a weaker optimization. In the real games you can use a shiny Raikou to bluff Aura Sphere but it MUST BE RASH. In smogon singles, you can run a shiny Raikou with any nature to bluff Aura Sphere. This is an important distinction that must be made because currently Smogon allows an optimization that does not exist in the real games.

7:36 I mean, to be fair, he also has a Charizard Y on the table

another one that didn't get mentioned was shiny genesect which released through an event with blaze kick and extreme speed which weren't available to genesect otherwise (blaze kick later became available to all genesect in generation 8)

Babe wake up new vid goes hard

7:37 "undoubtably." That ain't a word man :D lol

About the Johto beasts and shiny Gyarados if you pay attention to the ball animation when it’s sent you could immediately tell if it an event one even if shiny because they were all distributed in Cherish Balls.

Shiny moxieboosted is a really pretty pink I saw it with my own eyes once

For ones like the shiny legendary beasts or the shiny gyarados, you can't actually use just any shiny, it has to be another event one, as they'll be in the event exclusive cherish ball, if they are in any other ball you know for sure it's not those specific events Just thought I'd mention it

No way, Ranger contributing to one (1) Pokemon's viability. This is why Shadows of Almia is truly the GOAT

In a some similar way, Zeraora normally wasn't used in his shiny form, due to it being only obtainable in Gen 9, so it couldn't have the tutor move Knock Off, something that a Gen 8 Zeraora could have

0:51 Poor Gengar. He deserves a better shiny color.

Moxie I like that you acknowledge the existence of Smogon despite being primarily a VGC player. Unlike someone else that pretends it doesn’t exist and is inconsequential because it’s not “official” despite having millions of games every month

Currently cleaning up on ranked ladder with my shiny entei from gen 4 that i've brought forward for years. Mints/hyper training have done wonders for old event pokemon

Blood with the Charizard plushie is a menace and I love him for it

Dude the music in this! First you use the gambling sound from Simpsons hit and run and then you put meteor herd from sa2b. You're the goat

I still have my original copy of the entei raikou and suicune, it’s so cool being able to use them again in vgc even if they ain’t the best. I used to think it was so cool having sheer cold and suicune and I remember some of my friends being jealous of me in middle school 😂😂

Bounce Magikarp was also obtainable on the Winner's Path on the PokeWalker. It has a bunch of other special pokemon, but sadly was also only distributed through an event.

Shiny Blacephalon (and Smeargle, I guess) get a special animation for using Mind Blown. Doesn't change anything other than the ball being blue instead of white, but it's pretty cool.

I remember there was one heatah fajita video where cte was forced to run shiny genesect so he can use espeed, so he made the entire team shiny to hide it

Gyarados has been able to learn Bounce via Move Tutor since Gen IV, so I don't see how that event distribution changed anything.

This is a great channel!! I hope you get to make some longer videos in the future…

The persona 3 test music tho. Great vid too

You make the greatest Pokemon videos

Shiny galarian legendary birds can really mess with someone's mind.

In gen 2, being shiny told your opponent some of your IVs.

Rayquaza is another suboptimal shiny because it signals that it doesn't have the absurdly powerful V-Create, which was given to a Japan-only event Rayquaza. And in formats where it's legal, it's better to run shiny Genesect since it got Extreme Speed and Shift Gear from a movie distribution.

9:52 Haven't seen the famous Wolfe's hacked/generated Raichu in a while. I remember watching that Raichu use Endeavor live lol. I was like, "No waayyy" lol

Missed opportunity to make a "All Shinies Are Hacked" joke in the video.

Something I want to point as well is that For generation 2 with how hidden power was based on stats along with its shinyness. A shiny Pokémon would always have hidden power grass or dragon at either BP 49 or 69

In the generation that shinies debutted - gen 2 - shinies were actually sub-optimal since they needed to have a specific set of IVs to be shiny, and they werent the maxed out ones. People called maxed out IVs 'perfect pokemon' and shinies werent perfect.

Fly in the Freedom best SA2 track CHANGE MY MIND

Love the editor

I decided to imagine that level 4 Rattata was instead a level 1 Paras.

Fun fact: Tatsugiri's Shiny forms, like its regular colors, are also real types of sushi. 🍣

With all the new nature mints you’d think the shiny’s that are nature locked could be changed and therefore become even more hidden weapons because they’d expect the original and get the competitive version

Landorus incarnate in gen 7 monotype and ubers couldn't be run shiny as at the time the only way to get it's hidden ability was through dream radar which was shiny locked so by running a shiny you where telling them you has sand force meaning the set was physical as apposed to sheer force sets that where mixed or special attackers

The plushie mindgame lmaoooo 😅

7:28 i love the more psychological aspect of competitive games especially outside of the game itself

iirc, an example you didnt mention is in gen2. you never really want to run shinies since they have a stat disadvantage due to the way that shinyness is determined in gen2.

Never knew about this for shinys!

What would Heatran even NEED choice specs to kill from full HP? Or was that just a hedge against being outsped so you could still click Eruption and do big damage even if you didn't have speed advantage to make it usable against mons without super effective damage agaibst Heatran?

honestly surprised gen 2 didn't get brought up.

When I learned that as of Gen 9, you can't transfer Pokemon from earlier generations that have "special" moves they'd normally not have... (I got a shiny Mew that took a while to get Fake Out via Gale of Darkness, then transferred it up from Gen 3, only to find out after Gen 8, they *take away any special moves given to Pokemon*) Same thing happened with Lugia via Gale of Darkness too (if you transfer it from Gen 3, up to Gen 8 it's fine... but going to Gen 9 they take away Psycho Boost) Really sucks though since, while I know Mew isn't able to be used in VGC, you can't have it with Fake Out in doubles in Gen 9 due to this removal. (no idea why they made this change except to make it so that "everyone has the same playing field") Makes even less since due to Mew being the Pokemon that "learns every move" but then... taking it away lol...

I am definitely going to be trying for as ll of my competitive teams to be shiny. The extra tilt might win you the match.

I recognized every song in this video. I think they're under SEGA these days. Great taste!

Couldnt you tell the beasts apart by their cherish ball?

"Who would bother going for the shiny Charizard X amiright?" > Me, liking Shiny Zard X better than regular Zard and Charizard Y's shinies. That shade of blue-green/teal is my favorite color. It contrasts really well with the bright red and I love it. It also feels- very vaguely since the colors aren't exact- like a Salamence reference. With the blue-green and the red. Also because Salamence's regular form is Blue and its shiny is Green.

Shiny Galarian Moltres is great on low ladder for the way if bluffs being a fire type

I shiny hunted all 3 versions of tatsugiri with 0 IV Atk, just beacuse it is a Sp. Atker. I just refuse to have sub optimal mons 😂

I forgot how awesome Greninja's shiny was! That Ash-Greninja needs to return! The new Battle Bond ability is ight

The opponent can also just watch the pokeball animation, if its cherish ball theyll know it has special moves

Tapu Koko did eventually get a shiny event in Gen 7 that could have any nature

Based Splatoon music 🗣️🗣️🗣️

I will always run full shiny teams cause inworked to hunt them so ima use them dang it.

Couldn't they just tell based on the ball they were caught in? Like if your shiny Suicune isn't in a Cherish Ball that's a dead giveaway.

I just like running shiny Pokemon cause I hunted for them and they're my babies

Technically it doesn't even help to converse information to run the shinies. All of these event Pokemon come in cherish balls so running a shiny to conserve the information of what moves you can have was literally worthless if your opponent was smart enough to watch the ball when sending them out unless you had the event Pokemon itself. I've heard about people shiny hunting Gyarados in 2017 because they thought it would help them and it's very silly how much time was wasted for NOTHING.

Gonna run an all Shiny team of exclusively Slowbros and Slowkings lol

I feel lonely as the sole fan/lover of Shiny Zard X....

I’m making a Tinkaton team and I’ve decided to get a shiny, because if I’m going down, I’m going down in style

oh I was just making my team almost all shiny because it looks cool

I'm surprised you didn't mention Gen 2 at all. I don't think there are ANY tournaments for Gen 2 these days, but still, shiny mechanics for Gen 2 meant Shiny Mons were inherently at an advantage, though I'm not sure if anyone knew that back then or if that was a modern discovery.

I ran shiny pokemon in gen 8 because I hoped people would check my team post game and notice the gen 2 mark and excessive ribbons on my shiny lugia.

4:08 Can't have Entei in *insert the state of ur choice here* 💀

gonna start running shiny shedinja, gotta play both sides

Greninja was my first thought seeing the title. Didn't realize it's never been VGC legal though. Kind of hoping Legends Z-A brings Ash-Greninja back, I don't really like the one-off stat boost Battle Bond was changed to in SV. Even if it has to stay VGC illegal, being a pseudo Mega is _so_ much cooler.

I ONLY use shiny pokemon period. And i used to battle online often. But due to the dex cut and moves reset i dont battle at all anymore. I still shiny hunt but i gotta chose 1 thing to suck uo all my time and they reset all my progress

wheres that signature background score man!

Unrelated to this but I hole in ZA we get ash greninja like pokemon like possibly the starter or maybe some random pokemons