I was a PR exec. You need to find out the origin of the study, who is funding it, and know that it may require a deep dive, since PR firms hide this info using all manor of tactics.
Have no fear! It is National Institute of health that is funding this research. But, Wait! The National Institute of health is funded by Pepsi-cola!!!!!! Ups! The list of groups Coke funded is astonishing. Influential disease societies and foundations were also among the top recipients. For example, the American Cancer Society got $1.9 million from the soda maker, and the American Diabetic Association received $1.1 million. The foundation for the National Institutes of Health, the charitable arm of a government organization, got Coke money, as did the Healthy Weight Commitment Foundation, and the University of South Carolina’s South Carolina Research Foundation.
Key Insights: 1. A new interventional study in 2024 suggests erythritol consumption may increase blood clotting risk. 2. The study involved 20 subjects who consumed either 30g of erythritol or glucose after fasting overnight. 3. Blood samples were taken and treated with agonists (ADP and thrombin activator peptide 6) in a petri dish. 4. Results showed a 1000-fold increase in blood erythritol levels and increased platelet aggregation in the erythritol group. 5. The study also found increased markers of platelet activation (serotonin and CXCL4) in the erythritol group. 6. Thomas critiques the study's methodology, pointing out that the blood was manipulated in vitro, which may not reflect real-world conditions in the human body. 7. The study only took measurements at one time point (30 minutes after consumption), not accounting for how the body might process erythritol over time. 8. Thomas questions the study's small sample size (20 participants) and the fact that only healthy individuals were included. 9. The critique suggests potential bias, noting that this research group has previously published controversial studies on erythritol and xylitol. 10. Thomas argues that the potential risks of erythritol should be weighed against the known risks of consuming sugary beverages. Conclusion: While the 2024 erythritol study raises concerns about potential blood clotting risks, Thomas argues that its methodology and design have significant limitations. The in vitro manipulation of blood samples, single time point measurement, small sample size, and potential research bias call into question the study's real-world applicability. More comprehensive research is needed to fully understand the effects of erythritol consumption on human health, especially in comparison to the known risks of sugar consumption. Until then, Thomas suggests that the results should be interpreted cautiously and not necessarily lead to abandoning erythritol use entirely.
I’m way more worried about glyphosate treated wheat, soy, and corn as well as chemical process of making canola oil than I am small amounts of erythritol sweeteners.
I'm equally concerned about them. I cannot eat any grains for years now, and I reacted badly to erythritol, which is made from corn. Corn is a reactive grain for a lot of people, even though some do not realize it is the culprit behind some of their health issues. Much of the corn in the US is GMO and they put stuff from that corn into so many food products, including the processed keto products. There is so much that is unhealthy even in the keto products, so I avoid most of them.
It should be illegal to hide who is funding the research and study. Just saying, it wouldn’t surprise if someone from the sugar industry foot the bill to “find” bad things with alternative sugars
While it's not illegal, there are severe repercussions to refusing to disclose conflicts of interest. Grants get suspended, fines up into the millions of dollars, and loss of employment are a few to consider. The problem is not that there's no punishment for wrongdoing. The problem is that the layperson doesn't open the article and read the Conflicts of Interest section that's in every single journal article. It's just negligence because most of the time, the conflict is actually there for anyone to read but they just... don't. They'd rather defer to an "expert" to inform them rather than bother to read it themselves.
After 3 years of Keto I had triglycerides levels in the 300 range, but I had not idea why. After reading the first study on erythritol I completely removed it from my diet, despite everyone saying that study was bad, because my common sense told me that there was something weird going on with it. After 1 month my triglycerides went down to the 100 range.
@@valerie4975 I know it's hard to believe people on the internet, but I can assure you I absolutely wasn't. I was just putting some in my coffee every day.
I was involved in a study sponsored by a major corporation that shut it down as soon as the data began to spike results the corporation could not use in marketing.
I would have released the data. They shut down the Minnesota Coronary study results for 16 years and packaged the best data they could and the women's health initiative has unreleased data that makes it harder to make definitive policy arguments on the original magnetic tape storage. I can't wait until there is nutritional science. One day I'm sure. There is no such thing as Dark Science. You do it in the light of day or it isn't science.
@@lexiatel trust the science don't trust the authorities. The science is there and it makes predictions and it tries to investigate and understand the mechanism. The authorities are older people who can't admit that their entire life's work is at best half true and at worse a lie.
This is anecdotal, but I was having pains in my heart because I was only drinking erythritol based drinks. After I stopped, I no longer feel the pains.
Based off of what he said, the study only suggested that those already prone to heart disease may be more likely to suffer an attack, or at least a lethal attack, than those who do not. This assumption is drawn from how they treated the blood meaning that the presence of heart disease was meant to be a given and was therefore artificially emulated in the blood sample. Given this assumption, and regardless of its accuracy or that of the study, you should probably go see a doctor, as you may still be at risk of a heart attack regardless of whether or not you're consuming the substance, and may need to take preventative action.
@philliparnesen4493 I highly recommended avoiding any chemical artificial sweeteners due to cancer risks. I warned a good friend of mine about that and he didnt listen/thought I was worrying too much. He ended up developing a rare cancer a handful of years that killed him.
@@philliparnesen4493 Aspartame was denied for a decade on scientific concerns over safety. When Donald Rumsfeld, (yes the same guy that lied us into the Iraq war based on WMD programs that he knew never existed) and who used to work for JD Searle aka. Nutrisweet got into political office he said he would use political rather than scientific means to get it rammed through. So he stacked the FDA panel and head and even then it came to a tie and Arthur Hull Hayes Jr. who he got in as the FDA commissioner took it upon himself to cast the tiebreaking vote and get it approved. Since then Aspartame is the food ingredient with the most complaints about negative side effects to the FDA. There has been a meta study done on Aspartame studies as well that found the outcome of the study was heavily dependent on the source of funding for the study with the ones funded by the industry that has an interest promoting it finding favorably where as the independent/non industry funded studies being much less favorable. The World Health Organization now lists it as a possible carcinogen. There is no advantage to consuming aspartame and huge potential downside. Proceed accordingly.
Medical technologist worked in medical labs for 21 years. You are correct there is a problem with the study. That does not mean there is no problem with erythritol. Design a better study. I am diabetic I avoid All artificial sweeteners they all increase the bad actions of sugar and I have found have worse side effects for me. I have managed to kick insulin with diet and exercise. Very mild exercise, stretching and walking my dog. I am disabled, a veteran, and have to go low impact with the exercise. I am 67. I have already lived longer than my grandfather with diabetes. We also have better treatments than were available in his day. God bless everyone, congrats on looking for the best solutions that work for you.
There is no issue with erythritol. People start drinking soda with the artificial sweeteners instead of proper meal and then they complain about the blood sugar spike. That’s not how it works. You eat sweet treats after the meal including the soda and the energy drinks. Erythritol does not spike anything when you start your day right and it doesn’t clog anything because it doesn’t stay in the body at all.
"hey all increase the bad actions of sugar" Elaborate. Otherwise please do not spread falsehoods. Erythritol is among the safest and best ones. I am curious what bad actions of sugar you are referring to that you claim is caused more by it.
5 to 10 grams of Allulose about an hour before bedtime really restores muscle glycogen after a day with a good workout. Seems to slightly elevate insulin, pushing glucose into the muscles via the insulin dependent GLUT4 receptors.
I started to take Erythritol and found it to give me immense GI issues with gas / discomfort and diarrhea, however my husband can tolerate it no problem . I switched to organic Monk fruit which I can tolerate very well. Note: I do not have a gallbladder. Good post ! Keep up with your diligence to the Science behind it and putting it out to the public.
I don't have a gallbladder, have had IBS-D for 40+ years and Erythritol has no affect on me. I use it when I cook some things like keto cheesecakes and I opt to cut the amount to half the suggested amount simply because it's sweet enough already. Monk fruit is my #1 go to but most monk fruit has Erythritol.
Just to clarify…. Since so many people call products like Swerve “monkfruit” (which is primarily Erythritol with monkfruit) did you switch to a pure monkfruit sweetener or are you talking about one of the blends?
I had a heart attack at 40 when in the best shape of my life. I had been eating Rebel Ice-cream, and using swerve sweetener for years on a regular basis. Just one person's experience though.
As someone on keto diet and already had a blood clotting condition, this study scared the heck outta me!! Thank you for thIs video Thomas, you broke this down, unlike no other source, you're amazing! THANK YOU!
If they weren't being deliberately dishonest they would have used a control group and also compared against other uric-acid metabolizing compounds consumed in food products including sucrose, fructose, and ethanol as opposed to just glucose which is uniquely non-uric acid metabolizing compared to these other commonly-consumed food compounds. I would bet that the results they got were purely due to uric acid, and they expected this which is why they used glucose in the other group to "deliberately dodge" those results.
Tried erythritol twice in my life a few months ago, my BP went to 235/130. First time, I thought, "oh, well, a fluke." Tried it again a few days later and I thought I was going to die. To the garbage it went. Will not try it again.
I would be cautious if you already have a condition. There are other good substitutes, like allulose. It's not worth the experiment on yourself. I was eating a lot of erythritol when my blood clots came on.
I'm m a very healthy marathon runner who tried Erythritol and it caused GI distress and extreme gas. Despite the haters who are belittling people in this comment section, it doesnt wotk for everyone.
My two cents: when I was pretty strict about keto, I used erythritol A LOT. My own observation during that time was that I bruised much more easily, and noticeably took longer to heal as well...🤷♂️
It's funny how people comment based on the headline.😅 I've been using erythritol and xylitol for years, so have friends and family, with no adverse effects. I trust my body and my own experience, so I'll keep using it whatever studies say.
I was thinking the same thing, people obviously don't listen to the video lol and I concur, everyone's own personal research for themselves is best. We're all in different health levels. Have a great day 😀
It is National Institute of health that is funding this research. But, Wait! The National Institute of health is funded by Pepsi-cola!!!!!! Ups! The list of groups Coke funded is astonishing. Influential disease societies and foundations were also among the top recipients. For example, the American Cancer Society got $1.9 million from the soda maker, and the American Diabetic Association received $1.1 million. The foundation for the National Institutes of Health, the charitable arm of a government organization, got Coke money, as did the Healthy Weight Commitment Foundation, and the University of South Carolina’s South Carolina Research Foundation.
It is National Institute of health that is funding this research. But, Wait! The National Institute of health is funded by Pepsi-cola!!!!!! Ups! The list of groups Coke funded is astonishing. Influential disease societies and foundations were also among the top recipients. For example, the American Cancer Society got $1.9 million from the soda maker, and the American Diabetic Association received $1.1 million. The foundation for the National Institutes of Health, the charitable arm of a government organization, got Coke money, as did the Healthy Weight Commitment Foundation, and the University of South Carolina’s South Carolina Research Foundation.
If I take enough of it, I get chest pains. So I stopped, and the chest pains went away. It takes about three consecutive days before symptoms appear for me.
there was a time when i was younger when i thought that all the people that do scientific research were so noble and honest. that was until i had to do my own research for uni and after reading multiple research studies on different subjects,only then i realised how dishonest a large portion of these scientific studies are...thank you for the in-depth breakdown... not matter how hard these people try to stop us from consuming artificial sweeteners i will not stop using them.
you should. Sweetness itself is bad, and in form of those sweeterners doubly so. I recommend glycine, an amino acid, which does not only has no bad effects, it is providing lots of positive effects
Not in ALL things. Some things should be avoided, especially by certain people. I react badly to erythritol, so moderation is not an option. Grains are very harmful to me, so moderation is also not an option.
I purchased some monk fruit from Costco and guess what the first ingredient is? Erythritol. I've learned to eat whole foods. I use maple syrup or pure stevia, nothing else.
@chaundasumara I only use 100% monk fruit extract powder or 100% Stevia. They aren't cut with erythritol like 95% of the products out there. They cut it with erythritol because it makes the volume of the product 100x and can be used with traditional recipes as in measurements. A small container of monk fruit extract is the size of a small bottle of spice and has like 600 servings so it lasts very long but cost $28. They sell it at most grocery stores. Same with Stevie 100% powder.
I actually do really well with erythritol vs sugar. Sugar gets me mucusy, sourness in my mouth, tonsil stones, but none of that happen when I sweeten my food with erythritol.
I’m not a biologist, but I know enough here to ask questions. If blood clots were a concern then why not have individuals consume Erythritol and then take a blood sample to test their Prothrombin Time or better yet their PTT? By adding that thrombin activator peptide 6, one is looking to initiate a blood clot. I’m confused why they did this and didn’t just study in vivo as that would be way more accurate to a normal physiological response.
Yes, Yes and Yes! Great job on covering and assessing this study! More research is most definitely needed, before concluding that Erythritol is in fact unsafe. Thank you for sharing!
Sugar makes my psoriasis go itchy and makes it red + spreads - and yes, it is the carbohydrates that does it - sadly, as I would also prefer 'pure' sugar vs. artificial substitutes
@@chahahc It's been quite hot here this summer, so I gave in and got some store-bought ice-cream. Filled with 'regular sugar' - and I got noticeably worse on my legs/knee. Then I got myself an ice-cream maker, to make my own 'sugar-free' - so I am also quite interested in this study, and what alternatives are safe. Ice-cream without sugar is ... 'ok' Ice-cream with sweetness is... 'the best' :ø)
A lot of people aren't concerned about the weight gain from eating sugar so much as the glucose spike, the insulin adaptation (or response after decades of reaction) and hormonal changes. "Going to the gym" isn't the fix for how the sugar affects health.
Have no fear! It is National Institute of health that is funding this research. But, Wait! The National Institute of health is funded by Pepsi-cola!!!!!! Ups! The list of groups Coke funded is astonishing. Influential disease societies and foundations were also among the top recipients. For example, the American Cancer Society got $1.9 million from the soda maker, and the American Diabetic Association received $1.1 million. The foundation for the National Institutes of Health, the charitable arm of a government organization, got Coke money, as did the Healthy Weight Commitment Foundation, and the University of South Carolina’s South Carolina Research Foundation.
Have no fear! It is National Institute of health that is funding this research. But, Wait! The National Institute of health is funded by Pepsi-cola!!!!!! Ups! The list of groups Coke funded is astonishing. Influential disease societies and foundations were also among the top recipients. For example, the American Cancer Society got $1.9 million from the soda maker, and the American Diabetic Association received $1.1 million. The foundation for the National Institutes of Health, the charitable arm of a government organization, got Coke money, as did the Healthy Weight Commitment Foundation, and the University of South Carolina’s South Carolina Research Foundation.
‘The Cleveland Clinic's study on the sugar substitute erythritol and its potential to increase cardiovascular risk was partially funded by the National Institutes of Health (NIH) and the Office of Dietary Supplements. The study was led by Dr. Stanley Hazen, who also directs the clinic's Center for Microbiome and Human Health’.
Have no fear! It is National Institute of health that is funding this research. But, Wait! The National Institute of health is funded by Pepsi-cola!!!!!! Ups! The list of groups Coke funded is astonishing. Influential disease societies and foundations were also among the top recipients. For example, the American Cancer Society got $1.9 million from the soda maker, and the American Diabetic Association received $1.1 million. The foundation for the National Institutes of Health, the charitable arm of a government organization, got Coke money, as did the Healthy Weight Commitment Foundation, and the University of South Carolina’s South Carolina Research Foundation.
cleveland clinic has a very clear goal: promote 100 vegan. trustwortiness: 0% recently they had a study that sowed that vit B3 suplementation is very bad and causes creation of 4PY, which triggers wick CVD and death. Guess where we get it from... Same kind of shitty ideological pseudo scientific study
Not a fan of artificial sweeteners I’ll just use real sweetener if I crave it. If you’re healthy and a good weight no reason to avoid honey, maple syrup or even a little sugar as long as you don’t binge eat.
I use 2 packets a day with my sweet morning decaf and all the tests my primary & specialist put me through come back with a smiley face. I'm 69. I'll take my chances. Good presentation Thomas.
30 grams in a single dose seems like a lot. They should be forced to publish the protocol they used to come up with the chemicals they mixed with the blood sample in the Petri dish to get the results they did.
Agreed. It seems much like studies of other sweeteners (such as aspartame) where the test subjects are given amounts that are much higher than the average person would consume, and it creates fear-mongering. I try not to consume too much of any of it (well, I struggle with added sugar but am still working on a better balance). Sometimes I have a drink that has stevia or erythritol, sometimes I have a diet soda. with sucralose or aspartame, etc. I also try to drink plain water every day. Moderation is key.
There are also activists with a political, ideological, or religious agenda who knowingly lie to try to impose their beliefs on others. This is quite common in veganism or environmentalism, for instance.
It is National Institute of health that is funding this research. The National Institute of health is funded by Pepsi-cola!!!!!! The list of groups Coke funded is astonishing. Influential disease societies and foundations were also among the top recipients. For example, the American Cancer Society got $1.9 million from the soda maker, and the American Diabetic Association received $1.1 million. The foundation for the National Institutes of Health, the charitable arm of a government organization, got Coke money, as did the Healthy Weight Commitment Foundation, and the University of South Carolina’s South Carolina Research Foundation.
I have this issue with a lot of artificial or sugar alcohol sweeteners. I can have about 1 diet soda a week, if I have 1 two days in a row, my stomach is doing backflips.. Some are worse than others, but all of them screw me up to some degree.
We are not all equal. If someone doesn’t take well to something, stop taking it. Artificial sugars do not affect me in any negative way and I am grateful for it. I love my artificial drinks 🙌🏼
Erythritol works great for me. But you just don’t want to eat a lot. They add a lot of it to the energy drinks and the chocolate chips. I would avoid those two things.
Stevia is mostly erythritol and no it does not do that, even among the chronically ill old people. What brand are you using, what dose are you taking? Elaborate. Do not spread sugar-industry falsehoods.
@@FTDeBert I use stevia quite a bit. I definitely like the sweetness profile over sugar alcohols. I use Duralife brand from Amazon. Opinions may vary...
Thomas is saying the study doesn't demonstrate that Erythritol is bad for you and that it is in fact better than consuming sugar. Furthermore, more studies that are well designed would be needed in order to indicate whether it is good or bad for us and whether it should be included in our diet.
It is National Institute of health that is funding this research. But, Wait! The National Institute of health is funded by Pepsi-cola!!!!!! Ups! The list of groups Coke funded is astonishing. Influential disease societies and foundations were also among the top recipients. For example, the American Cancer Society got $1.9 million from the soda maker, and the American Diabetic Association received $1.1 million. The foundation for the National Institutes of Health, the charitable arm of a government organization, got Coke money, as did the Healthy Weight Commitment Foundation, and the University of South Carolina’s South Carolina Research Foundation.
So happy you are doing this one. I was on a diet that included a lot of shakes and foods that used Erythritol and I ended up with a horrible food allergy. First I had a headache that never went away. Then 5 minutes after eating anything with Erythritol I started getting dizzy and had blurry vision. When I started digging into the side effects and saw stroke as a possibility I stopped taking it. All my symptoms went away. Very scary side effects and you can hardly find any prepared foods that are low carb and don't use it the erythritol.
I would suggest to use whole foods and make everything yourself. There is always risk factors when you buy processed foods and beverages. There might be some other compounds that effects badly in your body. Also you can adjust the amounts if you make everything yourself.
I would heavily bet if you were eating lots of shakes with erythritol then you likely had a bunch of other garbage in them too. There are WAY too many companies making garbage products with lesser ingredients. They also often don’t rely on one single sweetener. Often have 2 or 3. Not that people don’t use personal experience, but it’s not very logically based reasoning to vilify erythritol. Biggest red flag is you seem to make a claim it gave you food allergies. Not that it’s impossible, but you’d be probably patient 0 for that one.
Big Food, AMA, FDA & USDA - Ask yourself what comes to mind. It would now be great to see a study as you described it should be done and see the results. Always willing to keep an open mind👍
Regardless of what Tom or any influencer says, the best thing you can do is stay the hell away from sweeteners. Especially anything human made or altered. Get your glucose from fruit and honey. You don’t need to add it and certainly don’t need some corporation who’s trying to gain your addiction to add it for you.
@@michaelmoellmann744 Yeah - fruit and honey is the way to go - then you don't have to even sweat/worry about the infrequent-to-rare times you ingest erythritol/etc (UNLESS, of course, you have an acute reaction - or a noticeable or significant reaction, over time - to it/to them. 👍) It's SO fucking easy and SO natural.
@@michaelmoellmann744 ... Yeah, I can't disagree. I'm sure Thomas even agrees with that. I sadly just still lack the willpower to go FULLY natural in the world we live in.
Ive tried pretty much every natural sweetener and they all make my heart race, give me anxiety , insomia and eye twitches. I have less reactions to refined sugar tbh!!! So i stick with honey. Its the only thing i can tolerate. Id love to know why on earth i have this reaction tho??? Theres gotta be something bad about them.
I think 30 grams is like two tablespoons worth. Who eats that much in one sitting? Plus, even greens have vitamin k which is a blood thickener. I bet if the blood was taken after eating a large amount of greens, put in a petri dish and manipulated like the blood in this study, it would clot too. But, I'm not going to stop eating greens. I think it's a difference of natural body functions and manipulation in a lab.
Thank you for your explanation of this latest study. The fact that it was conducted by the same group that did the 2023 study makes it suspect. However, your breakdown of the findings and what they mean allows us to make an informed decision for ourselves. Appreciate that…
Have no fear! It is National Institute of health that is funding this research. But, Wait! The National Institute of health is funded by Pepsi-cola!!!!!! Ups! The list of groups Coke funded is astonishing. Influential disease societies and foundations were also among the top recipients. For example, the American Cancer Society got $1.9 million from the soda maker, and the American Diabetic Association received $1.1 million. The foundation for the National Institutes of Health, the charitable arm of a government organization, got Coke money, as did the Healthy Weight Commitment Foundation, and the University of South Carolina’s South Carolina Research Foundation.
Very nice breakdown of this study Tom. The comparison with a snapshot is brillant. Scientists can't isolate things like this in a petri dish like they did to demonstrate fat was bad.
The other question is, 30gram is 2 heaping tablespoons full. Who the heck consuming this much in one meal? I'm using Erythritol and Xylitol over years without any problems. The amount I use is relatively low, 2 -3 Teaspoon on a big pot of tea with lime and ginger. If you took too much, it could cause some gut trouble, this is a fact. It can change your microbiome negatively, too. Your Teeth get the biggest benefit. Anyway, thanks for your video which keep me awake about “Ancel Key's grandchildren” 😉
Anyone who uses it to make sugar free baked goods. If you make keto brownies or whatever, a single serving could easily have that much in it. Hell, anyone who likes their coffee sweet can pretty easily get there.
What a lot of people won't tell you is that if you mix alternative sweeteners, they can for the most part make up for each other's off flavors. Allulose tastes kinda like powdered sugar, Xylitol adds a weird minty effervescence which can be good in some foods/drinks but not in others, and Stevia is super sweet but tastes artificial to me. What I do is mix about 1 part Allulose to 2 parts Xylitol, and boost the sweetness with light sprinkle of Stevia. The result tastes almost exactly like Sucrose sugar in most things.
Obviously, there should be a long term double blind study including sugar and these other sweeteners with no one, including those doing the test, aware of the stuff being tested.
Have no fear! It is National Institute of health that is funding this research. But, Wait! The National Institute of health is funded by Pepsi-cola!!!!!! Ups! The list of groups Coke funded is astonishing. Influential disease societies and foundations were also among the top recipients. For example, the American Cancer Society got $1.9 million from the soda maker, and the American Diabetic Association received $1.1 million. The foundation for the National Institutes of Health, the charitable arm of a government organization, got Coke money, as did the Healthy Weight Commitment Foundation, and the University of South Carolina’s South Carolina Research Foundation.
I used erythritol for about 4-6 months a couple of years back. After that, I started developing food sensitivities. I'm completely lactose intolerant now. I've noticed that when I consume erythritol sweetened foods, I get a similar reaction to when I eat lactose. Not sure if the erythritol had anything to do with this, but I suspect it may have messed with my gut biome.
Very interesting comment. I, too, am lactose intolerant. Did you know that eating foods with casein in their ingredients (like canned tuna) can give you the same effects as lactose? There are other ingredients which will cause this effect. I was diagnosed with lactose intolerance over 30 years ago. At that time I joined the Food Allergy Network and learned a great deal about what food ingredients cause the gastric distress of lactose intolerance.
You're right but I disagree with your choice of words saying they "tortured it with chemicals", I think that type of phrasing should be reserved if they selectively tested for clotting in a dishonest way. It's not like in an honest experiment they would have waited until one of the test subjects developed a natural blood clot. Of course they have to do something to check the clotting ability of the blood. You're right that the study is not entirely representative of the effects of erythritol in the human diet. I'm not familiar with this research group but unless there's a reason to suspect dishonesty or if they were presenting their study with scare-tactics, there's no reason to attack it as if they are trying to mislead people. Plenty of studies are not 100% applicable to what they relate to in the real world, it doesn't mean the study is complete garbage. I'm certainly not afraid of erythritol after seeing this video but it just seems like bad form to swat aside the study with language like that. The whole idea is that the study SUGGESTS something. You acknowledge this by saying more research should be done, but "tortured it with chemicals" will make some people think the whole thing is bogus. I assume you were just trying to prevent people from overreacting to the study. My takeaway interpretation (just from this video) that it's a small risk-factor that is irrelevant to most people, but perhaps not all - that's probably the main practical implication worth mentioning
After that study I moved on from Splenda Stevia (with Erythritol) to Stevie (organic no Erythritol). Thanks for the information and clarity on this and whatever comes out of it, I am happy with my Organic 100% Stevia.
Thank you SO much for saying this, I have been using the splenda stevia for a very, very long time and thought the other day, what do I do EVERY single day - my issue isn't gastro but aches and pains and arthritis, tendonitis and stuff... maybe it's settling in my joints and tissues? I swapped to the splenda off sucralose, tried the erythritol by itself for a while and just didn't feel right and it had kind of an aftertaste, thought it was a good blend to have stevia w the erythritol. Gonna try your Stevie. Thank you!!!
My experience, fwiw - I used allulose + erythritol to sweeten my coffee for months. I started to experience heart palpitations for the first time in my life (I have no cardiac issues and exercise regularly). I replaced the erythritol with ribose and trehalose, and palpitations ended after a couple of weeks.
@@WhatstheNarrative it may sound insane to you, but I’ve been drinking coffee for 40 years without palpitations, they started after consuming erythritol, then the palpitations stopped after I stopped ingesting erythritol. It seems pretty simple to me.
I believe Paul Saladino mentioned there was a study that showed negative effects on blood having granulated or processed sugar compared to sugar broken down from whole food, naturally absorbed through the body. I’d love to hear a video from you about that on how that works. ❤
Sucrose is probably what you are thinking of as table sugar. In those quantities it is processed, a 12 carbon sugar. But it is also naturally made by plants. Sucrose - Wikipedia Sucrose, a disaccharide, is a sugar composed of glucose and fructose subunits. It is produced naturally in plants and is the main constituent of white sugar. It has the molecular formula C. 12H. 22O. 11 . For human consumption, sucrose is extracted and refined from either sugarcane or sugar beet. So originally sucrose was simply eaten from sugar cane or beets. Sugar cane was called that because it has such high quantities of sugar naturally and that is why it is selected to boil it down into first syrup then eventually into crystals. That was better for long slow shipping by wooden sailing vessels back to Europe from Florida. I resent the loss of habitat in my native Florida to the sugar cane plantations in what was once a more vast swampy area in the southern tip. It helped reduce damage from hurricanes and we had more diverse wildlife then.
When the first poorly done "study" came out on erythritol, I thought that it might be funded by the sugar industry, and now again with this one? Can't say I feel any different today.
Maybe it would be good to follow the money. Who paid for this study? Was it a company that had a monetary interest in making Erythritol look bad? As much as I like knowing about new research I realize companies with financial interests in products can manipulate studies to show what they want. If they don’t like what they find out you will never see the study. I wish that a study would show in big print who funded the study!
Have no fear! It is National Institute of health that is funding this research. But, Wait! The National Institute of health is funded by Pepsi-cola!!!!!! Ups! The list of groups Coke funded is astonishing. Influential disease societies and foundations were also among the top recipients. For example, the American Cancer Society got $1.9 million from the soda maker, and the American Diabetic Association received $1.1 million. The foundation for the National Institutes of Health, the charitable arm of a government organization, got Coke money, as did the Healthy Weight Commitment Foundation, and the University of South Carolina’s South Carolina Research Foundation.
Keep it simple, Don't consume artificial ingredients or processed food. Eat real fresh meats, veggies, fruits, and nuts. And as far as drinks go; Water is life.
But for less sensible people like myself, I STILL want to know what are acceptable substitutes for sugary drinks... when just plain old WATER won't do. It's a valid pursuit of knowledge regardless of how ideal.
@@pheresy1367 Understood. If you're looking for a "sugary" tasting substitute you're always going to be drinking something that's manufactured unless you use local harvested honey. If you just are looking for a drink with a "taste", how about herbal teas? There are fruit based herbal teas and other natural flavors.
My anecdotal experience with sugar and artificial sweeteners: I feel much better with a controlled consumption of raw cane sugar and avoiding all type of artificial sweeteners including sugar alcohols. During the periods in my life I skipped all sugars and consumed only artificial sweeteners and sugar alcohols I felt without energy and then reduced my activity and performances leading to increase of fat and lose of muscle
When samples of blood or tissue are taken from the body to be studied, they are usually "tortured" with other substances in order to be examined. There is a school of thought that this in and of itself manipulates the results and so there is a skepticism about microscopic diagnostic studies in general. This is worth seriously thinking about relative to ALL lab research methods.
I buy monk fruit sweetener which is claimed to be a powerful antioxidant but mostly all brands seem to contain Erythritol. It is really hard to find a keto friendly sweetener that isn't artificial with risks of osteoporosis and other bad illnesses
I had to find monk fruit and stevia that do not have erythritol added because I react badly to erythritol. There are some brands out there, but not much,
He should do videos on the amount of hidden sugar in just about every single processed item that comes out of the food processing factories in this country, the concerning effect on our health, and the cost on our health, lives, and econony.
I switched from the pink stuff and the yellow stuff to the green stuff, that had a bunch of erythritol in it. Af few months later I had 5-6 clot type strokes. The last one really messed min up. It was in my Cerebellum. I don't use it any more. I have no blockages in any kind of my arteries. I have had ultrasounds, CTA scan, and A CAC score of 0. I have made pretty much a full recovery.
I appreciate you breaking this down. I, personally, don't like erythritol or xylitol because they give me gastrointestinal issues so I am going to continue not including it in my n=1 experiment. If it doesn't do that for you, enjoy it on my behalf 😊
Have no fear! It is National Institute of health that is funding this research. But, Wait! The National Institute of health is funded by Pepsi-cola!!!!!! Ups! The list of groups Coke funded is astonishing. Influential disease societies and foundations were also among the top recipients. For example, the American Cancer Society got $1.9 million from the soda maker, and the American Diabetic Association received $1.1 million. The foundation for the National Institutes of Health, the charitable arm of a government organization, got Coke money, as did the Healthy Weight Commitment Foundation, and the University of South Carolina’s South Carolina Research Foundation.
This presentation plus all the great comments reminds me that I need to start working closely with my doctor to see what works and keep asking questions. Thanks for this one!
It is National Institute of health that is funding this research. But, Wait! The National Institute of health is funded by Pepsi-cola!!!!!! Ups! The list of groups Coke funded is astonishing. Influential disease societies and foundations were also among the top recipients. For example, the American Cancer Society got $1.9 million from the soda maker, and the American Diabetic Association received $1.1 million. The foundation for the National Institutes of Health, the charitable arm of a government organization, got Coke money, as did the Healthy Weight Commitment Foundation, and the University of South Carolina’s South Carolina Research Foundation.
It is National Institute of health that is funding this research. But, Wait! The National Institute of health is funded by Pepsi-cola!!!!!! Ups! The list of groups Coke funded is astonishing. Influential disease societies and foundations were also among the top recipients. For example, the American Cancer Society got $1.9 million from the soda maker, and the American Diabetic Association received $1.1 million. The foundation for the National Institutes of Health, the charitable arm of a government organization, got Coke money, as did the Healthy Weight Commitment Foundation, and the University of South Carolina’s South Carolina Research Foundation.
"Acknowledgements This work is supported by grants from the NIH and Office of Dietary Supplements P01 HL147823, R01 HL103866 (S.L.H.), the Leducq Foundation 17CVD01 (S.L.H. and U.L.) and the Deutsche Forschungsgemeinschaft WI 5229/1-1 (M.W.). A.H. is a participant in the BIH-Charité Advanced Clinician Scientist Program funded by the Charité-Universitätsmedizin Berlin and the Berlin Institute of Health. The LipidCardio Study was partially funded by the Sanofi-Aventis Deutschland GmbH (I.D. and U.L.). P.P.S. was supported in part by an AHA postdoctoral grant 20POST35210937. The funders had no role in study design, data collection and analysis, decision to publish or preparation of the manuscript. We thank G. Deshpande (Department of Cardiovascular & Metabolic Sciences, Lerner Research Institute, Cleveland Clinic) for technical support during whole blood in vitro thrombosis studies. We also thank M. Ferrell for assistance in data analysis and T. Weeks (both at the Department of Cardiovascular & Metabolic Sciences, Lerner Research Institute, Cleveland Clinic) for editing the manuscript."
note to self ...never inject unknown substances into my body especially if I just had erythritol ;) ...though I primarily am monk fruit and stevia with allulose on occasion
Thanks Thomas for providing a balanced critique. There may well be something going on with erythritol, but calling on authorities to change public health advice on the back of this study is indulgent opportunistic science. My understanding is that ADP and TRAP-6 are normally released by endothelial cells at the site of vascular injury and do not circulate freely in blood, so hitting erythritol with platelet activators is profoundly not physiologic. To the extent that most exogenous consumption of erythritol is excreted, the question is how much ingested erythritol actually contributes to circulating erythritol levels. Also, the study does not mention that erythritol is synthesized endogenously from excess glucose and fructose, and that synthesis is promoted by oxidative stress and inflammation, such as might result from metabolic dysfunctions caused by diabetes. That said, it is clear that further studies are needed.
It is National Institute of health that is funding this research. But, Wait! The National Institute of health is funded by Pepsi-cola!!!!!! Ups! The list of groups Coke funded is astonishing. Influential disease societies and foundations were also among the top recipients. For example, the American Cancer Society got $1.9 million from the soda maker, and the American Diabetic Association received $1.1 million. The foundation for the National Institutes of Health, the charitable arm of a government organization, got Coke money, as did the Healthy Weight Commitment Foundation, and the University of South Carolina’s South Carolina Research Foundation.
No. They were funded by the NIH (National Institute of Health) and published in top medical journals. But, we can just believe what a guy with a youtube channel says
I bought a pound of Erythritol several years ago and had severe heart palpitations from it. Didn't want to believe it but eventually Threw it away. Also recently realized xylitol also , to a lesser extent. I think xylitol is excellent as a mouthwash or sinus antibacterial
It may be a flawed study, but as a 20+ time a year Red Cross platelet donor, I’ll be discontinuing adding a erythritol sweetener to my protein shakes from here on out. Not gonna substitute with sugar, though.
How do you define chemicals? Should I stop taking creatine? Erythritol is naturally produced by our bodies as part of glucose metabolism. The study in question is not helpful for determining risk of ingesting erythritol and most likely an observation of reverse causation (high erythritol was circulating because the patients were sick, not the other way around). For example, you will notice, that there as absolutely no tracking of ingesting erythritol at all in this study.
Thomas, I have a partial quad tear. Never got surgery for it, I'm 35. If you can make a video about whether its possible to grow muscle over an area that's previously been torn, it would be huge for me. It's been a year and the discomfort is still present, and i don't know whether I should pursue bodybuilding at all anymore.
I would pay attention to this. I switched from sugar about 2 years ago and within 6 months I was in the hospital with clots in my knee, my hips, and my right lung. Coincidence? Maybe for sure. I have no idea. But I changed to RXSugar after that just by chance. No additional problems for the last year or so.
How much were you consuming? I have mild consistently elevated platelets and white blood cells since 2019, however I don’t think mine is caused by erythritol as I don’t consume it every day or consume a lot of it.
funny how after the 💉new studies come out daily suggesting almost everything could cause heart attack but one thing... Here in Italy the said it was pizza (no joking)
Still better than table sugar. Personally, I stopped using erythritol only because I found it caused similar effects for me as table sugar does...pimples, tingling skin, etc. But that's just me. Monk fruit and Stevia are my go-to's. It may just be an individual adaptation.
I was using erythritol for a brief period several years ago and had some strange reacions. Lots of gas nausea and strange side effects. Quit using it and immediately felt better.
Aww man. I decided after several years to go online and order my favorite coffee and a bag of erithritol and they just arrived. Sat down to enjoy a yummy hot cup of coffee and watch RU-vid and this first video in my feed. Now I’m reading people commenting they had heart attacks after using it! Poured my coffee out :(
Oh great, I finally found a sugar substitute that doesn't taste like crap and doesn't make me blow chunks and now I'm unclear about whether or not it's good for me.
