You murdered this video by giving a thorough detailed explanation of how players are rated defensively, now I know and understand better what it takes to become a Defensive player of the Year in the NBA
Wembanyama is a best shot deterrent as a rookie,leading San Antonio to a top 3 defense when he’s on the floor while when gobert is off the floor the wolves still sustain a top 10 defense,when wembanyama is off the court San Antonio is 31st the award belongs to the best DEFENSIVE PLAYER! NOT BEST DEFENSIVE TEAM! Go Spurs!
You made a video dissing “casuals” and saying people don’t watch other defenders, but in the process showed you’re the biggest casual here and that you do not watch spurs at all..
Calling people “casuals” and just choosing to focus on “blocks” is kind of disingenuous Isn’t it? Blocks are not Wemby main argument for DPOY. The main argument for Wemby being DPOY, is the fact that the Spurs are a Top 5 defensive team when he’s on the court and dead last when he’s off the court. But when you look at Gobert, the difference between him off and on the court, the Tims are still the best defence in the league. That’s a horrible take. you spend more time criticizing “casuals” than making a valid argument.
The moment he said one don’t know basketball if we think wemby is the dpoy is the moment I stop to listen. Should have made a case instead of diminishing others for different opinions
So i guess former players like Shaq , Paul Pierce and KG along with journalist like Mike Greenberg and Chris Broussard don't know basketball the way you do lmao the arrogance you exude is ignorant and absolutely absurd lmao Update: Ernie Johnson just revealed he also voted Wemby DPOY..lmao
Why Wemby is your 2024 DPOY: - Leads the league in blocks (by far) - Leads the league in stocks (by far) - #2 in steals league-wise in February… - Spurs defense is elite (#5) with him on the floor. Could have been higher had he played center full season… - Spurs defense is DEAD LAST when he’s off the floor. Not only dead last but also historically bad defensively. Competing for the “worst defensive team ever” title when he’s off the court. - Only player with 10 blocks in a game this season. - Only player with back to back 5steals 5blocks games since MJ. - And the number of shots the opposing team does not take because he’s there is probably his biggest argument that does not show up in the stat sheet. - Opposing teams are setting high screens, double screens, re-screens, just to make sure he’s out of the paint… for a rookie… That’s how impactful he is. He is the DPOY and it’s not even close. By - @Peroriperora
You forgot... Timberwolves don't even notice when he's off the floor. The only argument people make for gobert is team related, and gobert has 5 teammates ranked in the top defensive ratings this season. Gobert can't guard outside the paint. He's washed. Lol! Thus guy is a swollen turd. He needs to delete the video. When gobert wins dpoy, swish will use the win as evidence that he was right, instead of that wemby got robbed. 10.years from now, everyone will look back in disgrace if they don't give wwmby the award
Bro ain’t no way you just said wemby shouldn’t be the front runner with Chet OG and herb jones like what are we talking about rn lmfao you seem like a casual if you think they are anywhere near him defensively
You're entitled to your opinion on any topic, fair game. But calling those who don't agree with you "casuals" or "children" is extremely pedantic & childish in itself. You're certainly not going to get your point across with that attitude.
Dude even some expert analyst are saying Wemby should win DPOY and not just Analyst but retired players who, if imtnot mistaken, also won DPOY are saying the same thing.
So I guess Kevin Garnett, Gillbert Arenas, Ben Wallace etc. (Who are definitely more than casual fans) are wrong. At first they were saying he shouldn't be DPOY and now have switched after watching Wemby more and more and say he definitely IS the best defensive player in the league and should be DPOY. 😅
Bro starts yapping about team defense when the dpoy is only about 1 player. Wembanyama still deserves the award. Footwork and positioning can’t block giannis my boy 😭😭
Wemby is literally a top finalist for DPOY, with many NBA players claiming he’s the best defensive player in the league. Meanwhile, half the players discussed were never considered in prior years. It’s okay if you think he doesn’t deserve DPOY. But this video insists his defense is overrated because his main argument is individual stats. This video will not age well..
Dude, congrats on the views I guess, but if you want to be taken as a serious analyst, I suggest you to delete this video. You come up as very ignorant and clearly biased. You pretty much listed all the reasons why non casual fans think Wemby could be DPoY and just dimissed them with no argument at all. The worst part is that you are trying to make it seem like YOU are the smart one 🤣. Wemby by any metric (raw stats, advanced metrics, eye test) is by far the most impactful defender in the NBA, he won't win it, just because their teamates suck without him.
So what you are saying is your picking Gobert over Wemby defensively if your starting a franchise. A below casual basketball fan can see his numbers are higher than goberts in EVERY SINGLE CATEGORY. So what do you have to say about the PROFESSIONAL basketball players( not casual fans) in the NBA that has played against him who agrees he should win the award buddy?
Not just blocks…steals and blocks. If anything, Wemby not winning the DPOY will probably continue the conversation of whether or not the award is for the player as an individual or for the team. Maybe there should be a Defensive Team of the Year award? Also, I’ve seen numerous times where a player drives in only to go back out because they see Wemby’s 7-4 self in the paint. I like this channel, but this video I don’t necessarily agree with
Bro says casual fans will look at blocks and make their decision but doesn’t highlight the stats Wemby has in a minutes restriction. All players named “Shaq, Duncan” etc. they all played more than 35 mins per game in their rookie season. You made a blanket statement. That was a casual analysis from someone I expect better from mate. Additionally, the Player On/ off discussion instead of using hyperbole to discount Wemby’s impact y not plainly state the facts? Wemby’s differential on/off is much greater than every person you brought up. You brought up so many top defenders that don’t get enough eyes but then sh*T on the Lakers who have quality defenders by calling them middle schoolers.
I’m about debunk literally every single thing you talk about. First things first I’m a Warriors fan so I’ve watch every single game for the last nine years that the warriors have played so if you’re gonna talk about Draymond Green. Green is a person I talk about all the time because he’s a great defensive player on and off the floor and why that is, is not do to his athleticism frame or length it’s cuz of is brain and defensive mind. He knows how to position his guys, and himself to completely disrupt, plays, and upset offenses. He has so many years in a league that he knows certain players, habits, tendencies, and all of these are would make a great defender. But those skills come with years of experience right? Rudy Gobert is a good to great defense of player but he is only good in post-defense show me any metric Rudy Gobert being a good perimeter Center, any metric of him being a good half court defender, any metric of him being a full court defender. He is only good in the post and high post defense. Proof of this end of games where the game matters. The most last two minutes teams will purposely search screens for their guards to be guarded by Rudy Gobert. Why is that, he is slow does not have a good feet, movement and realize way too much on his blocking ability so once he gets out the paint he can’t keep up with anyone. His team has a 106.3 defensive rating that’s with all players if he’s so “impactful” witch he his but in a Best defense player no it’s not him at-least this year. With Rudy off the floor their team rating is still 107 so he only changes (0.7) on defense. Now let’s talk about the guy you saying is over rated over hyped, Wemby is a rookie mean he’s new and learning and has no control over his team, players and minutes. Wemby gets less minuets first thing then Rudy 5 minuets less to be exact but yet Wemby beat him in not just blocks but every single metric other then rebounding with most new bigs struggle with. Wemby blocks 3.6 steal 1.2 reb 10.3 His team had a defensive rating when he’s on the floor 111.2 His team had a defensive rating when he’s off the floor 117.1 meaning he makes a (6.1) difference on points scored. That’s 5.2 more then Rudy In one on one coverage, whether it being full court, half court high post or perimeter teams avoid victor they design their place to pull him away from the side of the boat cuz he’s a BETTER ALL AROUND DEFENDER. Wemby changes teams mind to even take what would be easy layups on other on him their scared to shoot over him. Steph Curry player I watch very closely a player who loves to get the big switch on to him so he can cook them for a free 3 like he dose to Rudy all the time video prove all over the internet and I’ve seen it live in playoffs but yet curry when they match up against Wemby he don’t want that match up why cuz he ends in him getting blocked or it’s just to much work to get open cuz Wemby is not a slow defender by any means and with his length he’s a nightmare for shoots ask Wiggins 😭 So with all theses points I bet you still say Rudy is the DPOY DPOY is not a team award it should not only be able to go to the best defender on the best defensive team Rudy is not better then Wemby this season based off numbers I test and when other players say it. So I rest my case Wemby was subbed.
dpoy should reward the best defensive player, not the best defensive player of the best defensive team. it should not be a team reward. everyone who watch the league can see wemby is better by far, he's so good that only rudy can win it except him, only because of his winrate. it's ony casuals who says that wemby is dpoy, everyone who watch him play can see it
Something thats quantifiable and a good indicator is of vs on court the timber wolves are still a ridiculously good defence while the spurs without wemby are awful the swing between wemby on court vs wemby of is perhaps the biggest ive ever seen from a defensive player you would have to go back years if not decades to find a team that dead last to being consistently top 5 defence qith a single player change that is the essence of being a good player making a impact and if thats not a bigger defensive impact than rudy then i feel as though what i view as defence is far different than you Also almost your entire argument is wemby is over rated or this measuring stick is flawed however you dont say who does deserve it i assume you mean rudy but you were yet to give a argument for him And last i checked if your saying steals blocks on vs off court are all flawed then what isnt there isnt going to be a individual stat that objectively puts 1 player above another thats why you get a variety of thease stats we have access to and the eye test to determine who is the better defender and that player is wemby also you said you can name 8 players better defensively than wemby name them all and tell me why they are better
I don’t like telling people they don’t know basketball just because they disagree with my opinion. Kinda condescending. I agree Gobert should win dpoy, but I only agree that he should win dpoy because of team record. The Spurs barely winning 22 games disqualifies Wemby from winning. He should make all defensive 1st team tho. And I do believe he was the most impactful defender in the league last year. He just didn’t win enough games to qualify for the award. If the Spurs finished with a 500 record I believe he would be dpoy. If you disagree I can respect your opinion. We’ll just have to agree to disagree
I was so excited seeing this youtuber post something about this topic, and yet disappointing that the tone was just condescending. I finished watching the video tho.
Is that seriously your reason for not awarding him DPoY? 'He didn't win enough games' seems like an unfair justification. 'He' is only one person, and he cannot be expected to guard all five players. Winning games requires a collective effort from the team and coaches. Advanced statistics reveal a difference in Wemby's on-court performance compared to when he is off-court. On the other hand, Rudy has a great team to support him on offense and defense. Wemby right now is a better player than Rudy and that is a fact.
@@imizhalooh7181 You’re right but thats how it works. If a man averages a 35 point triple double but his team wins 20 games he won’t even sniff the mvp conversation. Like Curry in 2022 had the best individual season in the NBA but his team missed the playoffs so Jokic won mvp. Thats how it goes. Team success will always matter when being considered for awards
@@cameronspencer214 I wish the NBA would release official criteria for all awards. Some voters are afraid to give Wemby the award due to backlash. I'm hearing that MVP takes into account team success and individual success.
I like Gobert but if you look at the advance metrics Wemby is still number two on defensive rating. That but also Gobert doesn’t impact the percentage. You also don’t take into account the Kornet Kontest that he’s constantly employing. Also how he’s not crowding for rebounds as he’s running coast to coast the moment he sees his teammates at the ball. I don’t think your video is wrong but also the block to foul ratio is probably the most impressive. And his conversion from blocked shots is the highest in the NBA.
I never knew what it takes to become a Defensive Player of The Year until after I watched this video, well explained. It is not just about blocks so many defensive metrics determine how players are rated.
Wemby leads gobert in blocks steals deflections and has a bigger defensive point difference on/off the floor than Rudy the only thing Rudy beats wemby with stat was is opponent fg% and defensive rebounds don’t let this guys terrible analysis fool you
lol remove the steals or blocks stats then what is your basis for dpoy 😂😂😂😂 funny this channel doesnt know the criteria of dpoy 😂😂😂 how can u make a defensive rating of a player without steal and blocks stats hahahahah
Then how can you steal and block shots if you cannot read plays? How can you do it without understanding position , timing and anticipation? Stop acting stupid, you saw how good he is on defense!
@@nbaswish lol like i said remove the steals and blocks stats, then.what is your basis of defensive rating name dpoy who doesnt lead the steals or blocks in that season they won, dpoy is an individual award not a team award, just like your vid u name a few players that when not on the floor the team defense colapse 😂😂😂
What's more casual... paying attention to games and actual stats and performances... Or doing what swish does: watching talking heads and just parroting the herd without actually making an argument. What a clown swish is!!!
