Shooting the Czech vz61 Skorpion: Machine Pistol or PDW? 

it broke the tunnel vision

outstanding move

O this gun was not intended to be used to shoot at armed opponents. Most used to in in two man teams in bars and cars, and you don't want the cleanup crew to tell you they didn't find all the shells, because then the lead inspector needs to answer questions why was military equipment used, better have it fall right into your pocket.

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@Jerry...yes, but it ejects side casings and 9 caliber

That's absolutely the most important part.

Get that gun a movie contract

@@user-gx4gz2zb6r feat. Rob Schneider

The very essence of Czech.

Sheer giggle factor

Jonák had DE .50

Yeah, tragic that huh? So many innocent skorpions were lost without trace, mostly in river crossings, amazing how many just fell of tanks into rivers . . . :D

In my country during the '70 was almost as a symbol between criminals and terrorists

@@samirnodormir3097 Meanwhile at CZ company: Oh, we are the baddies, huh?

@@marvindebot3264 Not necessary to mask it, the biggest sellers were the Czech Army and Police.

It's the Czech version of the HK slap

It's a neat trick. You are unlikely to use it in real life though. Either it's already deployed when you go in or you have enough time to deploy it properly. Slow is smooth and smooth is fast. The rest is Hollywood. I'm surprised that Americans posts such things given that a lot of you have served in wars and even your civilians have this great 'gun culture'. It's amusing really.

@LeviThe Nuuubbb 😀 you do write quite like the modern American does. But, when you think about it, it's not so much about the weapon as about mindset. Your soldiers will tell you the same thing. Better to take your time than rush into anything. If you're rushing , something has gone wrong.

@Civil Warlord ah, you just hit puberty, didn't you? Congratulations!!! 👏👏👏👏

@@dscrappygolani7981 Considering the stress of having to exit your tank and draw a machine pistol, I'd say that flashy in this case can work. its literally smacking a piece of it if you can fire a gun how can you fuck up that.

*says it can't be accurately fired one handed *Accidentally discovers it can 😁

@@silvirhunter3607 what does that have to do with the video

Meanwhile in GTA Vice City Stories.. You actually fires it with 1hand.. 😹

All of the sudden, the stealth advantage shifts to the tankists.

@@milat9287 what about the brass hitting the top of the tanks? :P

@@GunsNGames1 If you have to switch from your tank, to your Skorpion, something's probably already gone horribly horribly horribly wrong, and it's crashed beyond repair some swamplands, or something. xD So don't think that'd be the issue!

@@GunsNGames1 No living vehicle operator would to that. If you are surrounded, your vehicle is immobile and there is no surrounding infantry, you are dead.

*hiding in a bush, suppressor on scorpion, perfect concealment* *starts shooting* *enemy instantly locates me due to 3 foot brass fountain* Another thing: *enemy calls air support *enemy air support is taken out because a piece of brass went through their engine

It’s a dueling pose for sure and thus you can guarantee Ian is the first AND last user to wield a Skorpion in this way

@@koushiro86 It was also the standard way you fired pistols back in World War 1. He’s also got the standard issue facial hair to look the part.

@@Brawler_1337 Going back even further to the 18th century, pistols were fired one handed, while standing side-on and with your off hand placed jauntily on your hip, or in your pocket. It's not just some silly etiquette, nor entirely a relic of fencing stance, but also the optimal way to shoot one handed. Plus the advantage of presenting only one's side to the enemy. It's just that by the 1950s we'd discovered shooting with both hands on the grip is far superior for control & accuracy, albeit with the down side of exposing the much larger target of one's front to the enemy.

​@@J.DeLaPoertad late, but the current way of standing sqaure against your target is also to make sure your plate is facing the enemy since most don't carry side plates

@@twanheijkoop6753 True, although personal armor, vest or plate, didn't come into common use until about 30 years after the current shooting stance became standard.

Yeah it had me dying of laughter haha

The little "thwack" completed the ensemble. 😂

Grip more better.

I see we have a person of refined culture here.

You forgot to equip Steady Aim as your second perk too.

@@supercreamypudding9841 Steady Aim Pro noob.

@Charles Gomez funnily enough, with how the rate reducer works it's one of the guns that could have the video-gamey rate of fire increase by replacing or removing parts rather than messing around with the spring strength and bolt weight.

It's also ambi like this. Not sure if that was the motive.

Another benefit is top ejection won't cause problems with the stock folded. This gun is so compact it must have been hell trying to squeeze everything in. The Czech really do make great guns.

Yeah, top eject is a good plan for all those reasons, but maybe a deflector could throw the brass forward a bit so it lands in front of you, not on you :) I expect in most real world engagements there's enough topography involved that your barrel elevation will be the couple of degrees up or down you need to make the brass miss your head.

or you could use it gangsta way... sideways... )))

the falling brass acts as a distraction while you run to cover.

It's a party-gun!

Funny how he says it’s surprisingly controllable, I mean it’s 32 caliber that isn’t a very big round

@@Ricardo_Lucero while true, it was made even more controllable with it’s rate reducer, lowering a rate of fire which would have been 1000 rpm to 850

@@Ricardo_Lucero the stock is the most important part of the gun its very unique its angled upward for recoil reasons ur apose to put it on top of ur shoulder against cheek its angled so the recoil goes downward on semi so one shot the gun goes downward when u shoot one round and automatically puts u back to the position of aiming down sights making it very good

... that's tossed up into the air so it comes down on his head.

@@Ealsante lmao

It was the final project for an army student.

We were comunists at the time, also this gun is nearly 60 years old, and its creator Miroslav Rybář died few years after start of manufacturing the weapon

Miroslav Rybář

JakePlisskenSDA really satasfing to see

I consider that a strong comedy feature of the gun

agreed, that was very well framed and shot and looked amusingly epic

I used Scorpion many many times and never falling the brass on my head. OK, if you hold the gun 100% horizontally, then maybe. But this is gun for action shooting, so that mostly you have the barrel little bit down or up and then is no problem with brass.

@@pavel-wolfdog6846 zajímalo by mě jestli ještě nějaká podobná zbraň má vyhazovák přímo nahoru, nevíš?

Very cool. Who were you with in Iraq?

It's round is too weak to kick.

@@TheLegendsmith If you have to use lost Czech guns, you know who you fight for...

@@terreausore2435 Czech guns were exported to all eastern block, and even israel was equipped by us. Elite vietkong units were carrying vz. 58 submachine guns. But since we prefered quality over quantity, they were not affordable en masse, so other countries stayed with obsolete but cheap AKs.

Well that’s because Ian has the muscle mass of a 12 year old girl 🤣😜

offered to you by brass-er

@@amauryleblanc7979 10/10

the hottest golden shower

The only acceptable type there is.

Yeah, hes a historian. He doesnt have bias when he approaches a platform. Thats why he was surprised how controllable it is because he assumed and commented in the previous video and this one about how it would be largely inneffective with the stock folded due to muzzle rise. Hes not advocating any gun. He even thinks trash guns like the Striker 12 are cool, and he'll tell you if they are trash to shoot and why, because he will often shoot them. He will often tell you if a gun has a certain reputation and why, but from an academic perspective. Hes the kind of guy who would be like, "Cool, a Highpoint" or like when he reviewed the Rogak p18. He chuckled about how it was not really capable of being gas delayed due to its manufacture, despite being a Steyr GB clone.

Real men shoot 308 #hat lol

It's raining brass Hallelujah, it's raining brass Oh yeah (It's a song referrence)

Joel Müller Yeah saw that! That was cool.

Is that what is causing the bolt to appear to "pause" when going back into battery?

I wanted to see the rate reducer in different settings to show, well obviously, the different rate of fire...

Mike Sykes Yeah that's what it is and fair enough Francis, that'd also be pretty interesting.

This gun's rate reducer doesn't have settings, although I see how the threaded plug might give that impression/allow it in a very limited sense by minutely adjusting the preload[?] on the spring. Given the two moving parts there are of fixed mass, and there's simply a spring controlling them, I don't think this was ever meant to be adjustable. I assume it'd probably be a really bad idea to have that plug unscrewed very much, or at all...the threads could probably break or walk the plug out pretty quickly with all those impacts/that vibration.

What did you think of your equipment?

What....? Mega shit. Gun OK, equipment ala WW2 Red army :-/

@@martintaus2212 Was the gun reliable? like did it ever get jammed or anything like that.

This weapon is absolutely reliable, no one in the unit encountered a defect, it's simple, but the SMG advanced design, disassembly and impact mechanism is similar to the AR-15, but in the service we did not shoot much, mostly relied on the attack knife UTON www.uton.cz/uton-vz-75/u75-serie-0007/ Thanks for your interest.

What caliber did you used with this gun ?

You do, yes. It only takes the smallest of tilts.

I loved watching that. I'm so happy it happened on camera

I can only imagine the inexperienced person doing a 'drive by' shooting in the hood with this tilted -90 deg. 'proceeds to unload a couple clips in

Are the Serbian ones .32 caliber or 9mm caliber?

@@sims2mwThe military issue is chambered in. 32ACP (7.65x17mm). There was a variant M84A which was in .380ACP (9x17mm Short), but those vere very rare. It was issued with 4 magazines with 20 bullets capacity and a leather holster. The weapon was very popular with criminals in the ex Yugoslavian countries and was used in many criminal showdowns in the 90's.

@@pathfinder2reality Also used as a secondary weapon for special forces, paratroopers

Also pilots. My grandpa was a mig-29 pilot in the Yugoslav army and he had one of those.

@@veselinjokanovic3032 everything about that is super cool

I also have been fascinated with this weapon. A friend told me, supposedly, it has bad ergonomics. IDK. Seems legit.

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lame pun

Bat mack just the right amount of cheese for me, great pun

I see what you did there.

No stop

Spud Gunn I think if you just want to hurl a lot of lead in the general direction of the enemy, you might as well turn the gun sideways and shoot it one-handed rather than shooting from the hip. That should give you the same result, with the added "bonus" of making you look like an extra in a 90:s gangster movie. Win-win!

Laird Cummings but would you really want to smell it that up close and personal?

Just point the gun at the ground and launch the casings at your target.

they got a kit for that too

Its happened only once From what I remembered

@@jonross377 go troll somewhere else, you might get the reaction you want. Not that kind of channel. Have a good day 😊

@@ihcfn WTF? Y'all are lost and confused ain't y'all?

He turns his head and instantly gets dinked by a case. It really made me laugh

perfect timing

Remember remember the fifth of November.

The gunshell plot!

It almost looks like the casing falls behind his glasses but I’m sure it bounced away

Or use good shot placement. See Ian's review of the Beretta Model 71.22LR as used by the Israelis.

American 180 just got an inflated ego

Gun Jesus needs a Bump Helmet!

I laughed.. thank you

Chris Chiampo BLESSED BE HE! 🙏

An armored vehicle crew or any soldier would be wearing a helmet so, the brass raining down is actually not a problem.

Duje Curlin hallelujah, it’s raining brass

Hallelujah!

@@dscrappygolani7981 IT'S RAINING BRASS~

I would have like to see effect on target but it was still a cool video and a really cool firearm

I'm sure he would do more footage like this, but he's limited on how much he can use some of these firearms. These firearms are ultimately up for sale.

Yeah, I always find myself wishing there were steel at Julia that he was shooting at, to get a little more practical feel for the gun...such as that'd be. Still, it's definitely a treat every time we get to see a rare gun like this in action after the main video!

That's the answer that every PDW designer should attempt to give.

In Czech its submachinegun

PDW: Pistol you Dim Wit

@@Ezekiel_Allium Wrong

@@marvindebot3264 you don't know

that is why you should have a coton scarf.

Just add gangster slant to your grip ;-)

That's what neckerchiefs/keffiyehs are for.

@Yung Colgate not flammable/not melting at low temps

as a lefty this happens with most guns

I automatically read that with the "Crawl out through the fallout" melody in my head.

That could be a t-shirt! Or maybe a poster, part of the Gun Jesus line of merchandise.

Mr McCallum is good, but not finger lickingly so.

He knows the 11 secret spices to gun design

MelBrooksKA but what of the herbs?

pignessman 7 i always think of fried chicken.

11 secret oils for thee bolt and trigger assy

Slovakia already seceded from the czech republic in 2006 ! XD

1993 actually ;)

it was in 1993

I usually hate "first" comments, but this was a pretty good joke.

panzerman22 We tend to call the area still like it, annoying all that broke free... Seriously, that part of Europe got quite complicated.

Stellar Steel in real combat situation, no one would hear that sound, everything else happens on field are louder.

Only thing that would bother them is the rounds going down the collar.

hold it at a slight angle so it all flys over your buddy instead

Or to troops moving forward. :)

*Legend says the sound of .32 ACP raining down on the helmets makes a louder ping than an m1 garand clip...*

That should be the rate reducer that he mentions at the end of the video.

Ikr 🤣🤣🤣

The Führer is looking for you

@@thesturm8686 😂😂😂😂😂 ah i see your a a man of culture

When your a ak and she says just the tip

Fegelein!! Fegelein!! Fegelein!!

Well I may be mistaken but I think the Skorpion is no match compared to the MP7.Ojectively The MP7 is more ergonomic, about the same weight, can accept accessories, the 4.6x30 however anaemic still provides better penetration, magazine capacity/options is broader and the effective range is way better. I can't see any instance where the Skorpion would be better apart from the overall cost and ammo price. The overall bulk, maybe... But we have to be fair, both guns have a gap of about half a century. The Skorpion remains a pretty effective weapon in its role, and is only obsolete because of today's accessories &ergonomics and armour penetration requirements. That being said I think it would be a better alternative to a standard semi-automatic 9 mm as a sidearm for a tank crew.

the MP7 is amazing, you can shoot groups at full auto wihtout any problem.

Its a good comparison. You're wrong when you say the two weapons where designed for different roles, Inbound. The Mp7, just like the vz61, was never intended as a primary weapon for the military. Its not a weapon intended to replace rifles. Just like the scorpion the mp7 is the weapon used for vehicle crews, artillery crews and any other job that has the threat of ending up in infantry combat but isnt primarily intended to fight in such a manner. Even in police use it serves a similar purpose since the primary job of a police officer isn't shooting things, police just carry weapons in case they end up needing them. And much like a tank crewman one very specific requirement the police has is to be able to use their weapon very quickly when disembarking from a vehicle without it getting in the way. The major design philosophy difference between the two is that the scorpion fires pistol ammunition while the mp7 uses 4.6x30, which is essentially a miniaturized rifle round. Other than the need for more armor penetration these days they where designed around much the same set of requirements and for the same roles.

not even in the same class. Anemic pocket pistol round vs. a 4.85 round going 3 times as fast. This skorpion might be better then a pistol, but bet on it not much better

Ime the more you shoot the more deadly any weapon becomes lol but as a weapon fanatic and if your "comparing" of course a mp 7 is "better". Lol. People will compare a eagle talon to a Dodge demon if you let them hahahahaha

There is no "overkill." There is only "open fire" and "reload." - Maxim 37.

It was originaly issued for paratroopers

I can tell you that it wasnt... Police SNB used Vz.50,70,(82 or 83 i dont know for sure) pistols... Never seen one with Vz.61. And from the talks it was used mainly in army.

@@blucz883 Every communist police officer in cz had a pistol AND vz 61, but they didn't use it often. I know, what i'm talking about.

@@pavel2k I know it too.. Taky vim co SNBáci používaly. Ale ten člověk nahoře tady psal že to bylo nejvic používáno policii... S čímž nesouhlasím. Ano je pravda že jo mohly mít ale spíš nosily 50/70 pistole

@@blucz883 If u look footage from uprising in Leopoldov prison(1990), first line Police troops who were clearing area were armed by either vz.61 Scorpions or Shotguns,... some guys also had vz.58

and you're a little less likely to go through someone you have to shoot at, into the room behind him. Which is saying something in close quarters.

For shooting around the house? That's what I was thinking.

For what I heard the 9mm version wasn't that bad either (and was also popular by the Czech criminals because of that).