Czech vz61 Skorpion: History and Mechanics 

I dont know about you but FN FAL FN P90 FN Minimi Fn five-seven belgians are pretty much the first one to come to mind right after germans.

You are right. That never occurred to me. The American, British, German, and Russian guns are the most well known, but in reality the best ones are Belgian and Czech.

They built guns for the Germans.

@@GF-nm1cl Also they influenced the design of interwar british gun design, like the BREN gun.

Look up Brno Super Shotgun, It still holds its price after all these years. I would say its better than Beretta sport-shooting shotguns.

it really is slavic practicality meets german engineering

Chefs kiss on that pun. *mwah*

The Czech lands would have been like Germany if only it hadn't been for Communism.

Maybe better, since our industry wasn't bombed to dust.

Absolutely, they were in a top position after both wars. Which makes it all the more unbelievable how fast their success was reversed under Klement Gottwald :'(

well, that’s what you get, when 1/3 (until after wwii) of your population is... ethnically german.

Yeah Austrian invest a lot in industry and make Bohemia prosper and core of Austria industry

It really is brilliant. I figured it used a telescopic bolt _(like the Uzi)._ Being unfamiliar with its design I found it odd that they didn’t just house the magazine in the grip. My interest was seeing how its rate reducer functioned - _machine pistols have notoriously uncontrollable firing rates_ We know recoil impulse comes down to ΔT, and slowing down that transfer to the shooter really sets this design apart.

Maybe that was stock footage.

Given the fact that Ian loves the stock of the MP-40 so much, his love for the VZ61's doesn't surprise me, come to think about it...

Ian Tharp so I was not the only one seeing this... probably the first time I saw Ian forget a cut :O

Seeing this little error makes me realize how rarely he actually makes mistakes in videos.

From the way the footage looked (it was a bit blurry during the first explanation) I think the double explanation is either a misedit or the first explanation was left in to show he isn't perfect.

All the best channels on youtube have a PBS vibe to them. I've worked overnight shifts before where the only thing keeping me sane was PBS doing a 3 hour marathon documentary on the Roosevelt family or something. Far as I'm concerned PBS is the only TV channel (well, in my case I get like 5 different PBS channels) worth watching anymore.

Jesse Sisolack same here

They were, of course, the first nation in Europe to truly embrace the gun and use it to full advantage.

Jesse Sisolack Me too.

Vz 58 is a good mod of AK, CZ-75, CZ-550, CZ-805, great firearms

Mod of an AK? Vz 58 has nothing to do with AK, they just look similiar... Same as Stg44 and AK...

A1179125CE that was pretty cool!

You can crucify him anytime

Very smooth

"There's no more room in heaven"

@@stiky5972 so that explains why there's so many zombies walking around..... 👿

It ain't broke aftwr all

And in Slovakia too, its very good gun

Its not exactly intimidating so it wont disturb peace, its light and small so really comfortable to bring around while walking. Its not a very powerful round, so no need to worry about overpenetration. Perfect. Then you remember its a machine pistol, so accuracy is not the best and got lots of spread.

@@whoami1449 True ... ... but then there is this ... I got into a cordial, and polite, disagreement, with a person, whom knew their weapons, and whom asked me what my perfect carbine, in a home defense situation ... Unfortunately, I've forgotten which video, or the person, and, even on the Galaxy Note 20 --- my only working piece of technology --- the RU-vid app is not really adept, at all, at finding previous comments I've made. Which is annoying because, after a great deal of 'compare/contrast', I've settled on this. Reason being is two fold. My apartment (bedsit to my fellow Brits) is not that much bigger in overall footprint, than a two-car garage, three at a pinch, or two, plus a couple of motorcycles. I'm guessing, maybe, 30-40yrds between the front door, to the rear one, on the 4th (3rd, if you consider Street level as Ground Floor/0), give or take a few feet. So firing distance between myself, and any intruder(s) would be in the order of ~10 - 20ft, depending on where I am, in relation to said intruder(s) ... But, given how thin the walls/floor/ceiling is likely to be, over-penitration is my second most concern, preceeded by having a round, whose size lends to dumping as much energy into the target, from that at the muzzle, and inclusive of muzzle velocity. Legend has it that Mafia hitmen use .22LR hand guns, or variants with slightly longer casing/bullet dimensions, with a suppressor, not only because that 'tiny' round does dump almost all its muzzle energy at the point of impact, but also, because it is a subsonic round, the addition of a suppressor does produce, allegedly, a report no lounder that the classic, and (in)famous, subtle 'thud/thunk', as movie scences depicting a pistol with a suppressor being used, is so often portrayed. Yes, it does mean getting within only a few feet, but, again allegedly, such as in 'Casino', as long as there are no witnesses (or witnesses that prefer not to have seen anything ...), then the hit is near silent as is possible with any firearm ... Oh, and a question if I may: as movie 'hits' are portrayed as having spent casings been left behind, would seasoned hit men worry about policing those up, or are casings almost next to impossible to trace back to a gun, and thus person, presuming that said gun wasn't dumped afterwards ...?

@@nigelft.22lr is not subsonic.

Far Cry 5

@@scarydave7245 : )

"Without ammo, you're just a schmuck with a paperweight."

@@TheDennys21 but it only takes 1 bullet to kill, please spare me the heresy

"Use a gun. And if that don't work, use _more_ gun"

Typical Czechoslovak stuff. Western technology for eastern price.

In Ghost Recon Wildlands it's one of 2 compact machine guns you can carry as a sidearm, the other one being a MAC 11.

In GTA5 its called Mini SMG :)

well, he did say that it is thecnicaly not rapid fire pistol but very small smg

Klobb

Worst weapon in Goldeneye 007 though

Why is there a red mark on the left side above the charging handle towards the muzzle?

_OBSCURE JAPANESE REFERENCE OBSCURE JAPANESE REFERENCE_

_Philosopher's Legacy_ something something _Shagohod_

Baker Tankersley not obscure so long as you have good taste

Wait, I don't get the reference.

metal Gear Solid 3: Snake Eater. in my own opinion, the best in the series.

And judging by the slo-mo they use the 32 ACP White Soot ammo.

throw in the horse trough for cleaning, since any army that thinks .32 ACP is a swell battle round no doubt has kept a lot of cavalry horses too

@@Tiberius_I Le hurr durr duhhh sssfftpp st-stopping puweer

​@@Tiberius_I It was adopted by the Czech army as a close range weapon for when you get smoked out of your tank by a Yankee with a Bazooka, Sherlock. Originally it was designed for security forces and SpecOps. It's never been intended as a battle weapon. EDIT: As a sidenote, US armor crews that cannot use an M4 often have to make do with a 9mm semi-automatic pistol such as the Beretta M9 (civilian designation Beretta 92FS). Glass houses, you know…

@@TruthNerds probably depends on the unit. Some of them might be able to get an Mk 18 or similar in there. I find it strange that various submachine guns used by the U.S. military like the MP5 and MPX (especially short versions of either) wouldn't end up there. Obviously the M9 has been replaced by the M17 and M18 now, so they'd have a slightly smaller pistol with two extra rounds in the case of the M17 if I recall its size correctly.

Fraje CZ Is your's full auto?

No, I meant getting a Vz. 61 in general, not the rate reducer itself. The gun would have to be semi-auto only in the Czech Republic, so no use for the rate reducer there of course, but that doesn't matter. Still better than it being deactivated.

_Okay,_ thanks for clarifying. I was wondering, too. ^_^;

So what are gun laws like in the Czech Republic?

AJ Tomecek Vast majority of legal gun owners in the Czech Republic agree on that our gun laws are very good. Even better than in the US, actually. We take it as a good thing that not everyone can own a gun. Its about as difficult as getting a driver's license, so if you're not an idiot, you can get a gun.The EU Comission is about to change many things for the worse, sadly... I can elaborate more if you want. Feel free to ask more specific questions. ;)

I actually loved the Klobb

I use any weapon an win every time

And odd job hacking away at you in co op mode lol.

Yes, I was looking for this comment.

I loved this gun in goldeneye

You beat me to it!

Diez ALOT your profile picture did the video surprisingly well. This gun was used in the wars during the breakup of Yugoslavia by both the militaries and paramilitaries.

Diez ALOT someone finally mentions da klobb !!!

You just blew my mind. I've known of the Scorpion since Black Ops 1 came out and this is the first time I realised it's the Klobb.

You can dual wield the Klobb, but it doesn't change the fact that you're using the Klobb!

Japback13 yep, that wildly inaccurate, horribly underpowered scourge on GoldenEye villains! Lol Folding stock AKs are also KF7 soviets if I remember correctly lol.

video game guns aren't real. The klobb is a fictional firearm named after the game's designer.

Oh my god! Are you serious??? You mean, a Nintendo game changed the name of all the firearms it featured to not have to pay for licensing and copyright? Wow thanks for enlightening us! I think I may know the difference seeing as how we were just referencing a game that at the time of its release most the people playing it were 10 years old or younger. Wanna tell me that COD isn't actual combat too? Being deployed and all, I'm not sure if I'd be able to tell a difference... -_-

Andrew Vryburg -- In case you didn't get the poster's above message... ANDREW, THE "KLOBB" in Goldeneye 007 for N64 is modeled after this gun, and works just about the same, with respect to the realism of that game. Yeah, it was named after Klobb... but it is indeed a Skorpion. PS- When doubled, it's called the Klobber... because I said so. 😜

Few things are more satisfying than taking down the Golden Gun wielder with the Klobb.

Marstar at the time was a pretty shit company. The T2 Garand scandal in particular was some incredibly sleazy shit. Though now that the original owner retired (and hopefully dies soon), the revamped company SEEMS to be better. But their reputation is still right down in the gutter with trash like Hero Outdoors.

Almost too fun to be a home defense gun. Might get all hyped up and end up spraying the mail man lol

@@trevordavis8210 Yeah, well, teach the nosy neerdowell to not trespass and deliver the mail!!!

In akimbo

Yeah, I use my select-fire Yugo Skorp as my home defence gun. Love that gun, even if I’m a bit too tall for it.

It seems like Home Defense weapons seem to be drifting towards semi-auto versions of PDW concepts anyway these days. Lotta Pistol Caliber Carbines that are roughly this thing's length shooting 9mm with the idea that it's probably the easiest effective weapon for an inexperienced shooter to use with the low recoil and three points of contact. With some minimal accessories (simple light and maybe a reliable basic reflector sight) you've got an affordable package that most people physically able to hold it and see clearly can use effectively

That and more cowbell.

Jonathan Borley yes

It is just a huge PM, it's not that interesting.

Mug Face but it is pretty weird

Ian run out of forgotten weapons. He already reviewed every one and now its just showing us cool guns guts (not a criticism)

Outside of video games I haven’t seen any real showings of this one

@@Red-S-267 so it's still not forgotten because it's in like every modern shooter.

the map ironically enough less forgotten than this comment

@Alex Henry wot

FZ rc Watching the cases fly out the top is just way too cool, especially in slow motion. ☺️ Love my Skorpion, even though it's without a stock.

Little Jenny it truly is hard to beat in terms of just pure joy for a range toy. Typically I shoot my outdoors but I've brought them to an indoor range once or twice and taken a few cases to the head being they come flying out the top so fast and bounce off the ceiling haha.

ooh, neat! *watches again*

I guess this would also reduce the uptravel effect or recoil to increase accuracy

Just wanted to say the exact same thing

mitchell It's really impressive how well he does especially considering that the German language -- to a greater extend than French for example -- contains sounds that simply do not exist in English and are therefor very hard to get right for English speakers. Ian seems to have more than one talent. But then again, he _is_ gun Jesus and as such needs to understand firearm-scripture, a fairly large portion of which is written in German.

If only he (and all Americans) could properly pronounce, "en bloc." (Think en garde or en route).

Kurt Bergh a good balance point of simple ruggedness and complexity that adds to the function.

I'm sure it's the common ancestry with Russians and over a millenia and a half of being just a border too close to Germany...

Czech Republic in general is a mix of Russia and Germany in many ways :D

Well Czechs are basically ethnically german but speak slavic so "look russian act german" is precise description of czech nation.

I dunno man. I'd rather have a Mini-Uzi with a wire stock. Or even an M3 Grease Gun. .32 ACP is a pocket-pistol caliber and a seriously marginal performer in accuracy and lethality beyond poker-table range. You could surely spray some guys off the top of your tank at point-blank range, but have fun if they're hiding in the bushes and engaging you from 10m away while you're trying to flee a burning tank. The Uzi is plenty accurate at that kind of range and was famously loved as a tanker's weapon; if you've ever seen the video where Ian shoots it, it's remarkably controllable and takes a nice hot 9x19mm round that's leaps and bounds more a proper warfighting caliber than .32 ACP.

Taijitu of death They are basic bros

Czechs out.

Czechmate

Sorry, were you saying something? I Czeched out for a moment.

Or checque.

You're driving Škoda? Funny thing is, Škoda (beside being surname) means "pity, waste, damage,...". We have saying "Škoda kupovať si Škodu" which means "Pity buying a Škoda" :D Or "Škoda peňazí" which is "waste of money".

Even funnier - Long before they made cars, Škoda Works was first and foremost an *arms* manufacturer (which is a nice tie-in to Forgotten Weapons - Any chance we'll get a Škoda gun video, Ian?), specialising in large artillery and ship guns.... so it's really named for the massive amount of 'damage' a Škoda can do to the enemy!! :p Besides, it's a modern Škoda, which basically means it's a Volkwagen-Audi-SEAT-Porsche-Bentley-Bugatti-Lamborghini, anyway...

The 'Scarab' could be useful. I'm sure if you tied a length of cord to it, it'd make an okay impromptu flail; or as a parts donor for a zip gun.

Intratec made a .22LR Skorpion clone, too. It combines the abysmal reliability of Intratec with the equally poor performance of your average hi-cap 10/22 mag. It makes Calico pistols look reliable.

Wew, that sounds horrible.

PS-- I totally live in your home town, Ian... so like, if some obnoxious motorcyclist cuts you off, I apologize in advance. Forgive me! 🤓

pPS- OMG.... whoa... the stock is cool, but the reciprocating weight system built into the handle frame is amaaaaaazing. If that didn't inspire the Kriss and so on, I dunno what... no wonder the Czechs have always been called master arms makers. What a cool weapon.

DesRoin It's not that complicated, it comes all down to size. Micro-Uzi machine pistol - full size Uzi sub machine gun.

Also, machine pistols are usually pistols first that are made automatic. Examples a G18 is a fully auto G17 essentially.

Yeah but in german pretty much any automatic firing pistol caliber weapon is considered a "Maschinenpistole" literally translated "machine pistol" ;)

DesRoin Same in polish, propably because we adapted this word from German

DesRoin There isn't a a rule or true definition of either. But it mostly seems to be based on the country of origin. Though generally in the US we call "machine pistols" something, as he mentioned, a weapon that started as a handgun. Like the Beretta 92 and 93, or Glock 17 and 18.

You definitely weren't in combat. No vet calls themselves a lol war fighter while having a "justagamer" profile name.

Yep Welcome to Canada

Yes. Norinco makes an M14 in 7.62x39, and it's available in Canada.

Ian actually has a video on it. It's really interesting and I'd suggest looking it up!

Me is Plumber then why does it have a 5.45x39 magazine inserted?

It really is an 7.62x39. Here's the video: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-byeMLdt2r-I.html