Short darts have dominated as the hobby standard, with Talons coming out on top as the community's favorite half-length magazine. What do you think we should compare next? Or do you see another ammo type coming out on top in the future?
Neither do we. Like Luke said on the stream, we're hoping for smaller Rival-esque ammo. But we've also heard rumors about gel? The repeated launch delays are kinda irritating though. - Perry
You kind of touched on it, but a short dart comparison and compatibility run through might be nice for us newbies to short darts. I thought about buying the Worker cutter device for cutting down full length darts, but I heard the dimensions are slightly off. I also heard that waffle tips don’t feed as well in some of the higher powered blasters.
I wish dart zone actually sold their products internationally so that I can get myself some good blasters, we can barely find any rival blasters in England!
Going back way back, "stefan darts" referred specifically to homemade darts made out of foam backer rod with a hot glue tip and not even the length aspect. I remember lots of stefans back in the day being pretty much full length, but people found that they flew better when made shorter and eventually the definition kind of evolved to describe short darts in general.
The AF Nexus/Aeon Pro mags are essentially Katana profile. They will fit in a Jet Katana adapter (and most community designs made for Katana) and the AF Pro adapter can take Katana mags.
Yes when my son and I bought our FDL3’s from Jesse and Jackie for ADL a couple years ago, I went with a short dart nose and he still wanted the full nose. Now that we have so many other things that use short darts of one flavor or the other he sometimes regrets that decision. I think we will be building a short nose for him once we’re able to resume playing again. We will see. We love the shop Luke!
Considering I never bothered with half darts until Adventure Force brought it into the retail space, I appreciate this video. I have a ton of blasters and the amount of money/work I would have to put into converting to a half dart economy was super prohibitive.
With the recent announcement of the Pro Mk3, I was gonna finally buy some talons, however. I'm so glad I saw this video. Because now, I'm just going to wait. I'm going to get the full-length 22's just for now.
It’s weird seeing half lengths or how I like to call them stefans being a thing we see in HvZ and being a normal thing now even though I haven’t been to a single game mostly cause I’m broke I’ve been in this hobby for about 12 years see it grow from homemades to worker to 3d printed blasters to seeing stefans on store shelves with many amazing coming into hobby just like yourself Love this hobby
A few pistol blasters you missed, the SPAMF (Falconfire mod) can take both Talon and Katana mags, the Dessert Pigeon can be ordered either as Talon or Katana mags, and the Falcon is Talon only. I have all 3 of these and several Talon mags to use on them, plus a drop-leg holster to carry the extra ammo.
Thanks for the list! We just grabbed examples of ones we had on hand at the time. Now that we have the blaster wall up, it will be a lot easier in the future! - Perry
After seeing your Tachi video, I'm really wanting an injection molded version of the Talon 15s with the top-load feed lips. Maybe even make it longer but still really ergonomic for rigs. I'd convert everything over to that in a heartbeat. They'd easily be the gold standard
Great video sir. I know mags are the bees knees and all but I just really like drums, I would love to see a drum blaster with a sealed breach, super pumped about that foamknights blaster with interchangeable breaches and mag wells and I think a drum blaster would be easier but I’m not an engineer so I guess we’ll never know 😢. Keep up the great work over there.
As a newbie i thought that these talons and their adapters were plug and play.U should also mention that an extended pusher different for each model (e.g different for stryfe and different for rapidstrike) is necessary for short darts.
What adapter can I use for a Nerf Demolisher? I tried the adapter for the stryfe but it doesn't seem to fit right. Thank you for your support to the community! I have bought most of my products at Out of Darts. Love your services and quick delivery!
Great video. I have recently started to use shortdarts more and have great luck with talons, straight and curved. I hope the angled ones don't gain traction just cause I have so many of the others and want new blasters but have no interest in buying magazines for just 1 or 2 blasters.
@@SiliconeSword My church hosts a big event every year and I always get an itch around summer time. Especially because the price tag is much lower and the accessibility much higher than airsoft.
Luke mentions "Nerf modding" a few times towards the end of the video. With barely anything directly Nerf related in the video, has it maybe come time for us all in the hobby to evolve with it's terminology / nomenclature too?
Do you know if the 10 round Angled Talon that comes with the Phoenix will be available separately? I’d like to be able to make a semi auto solenoid powered version of the Phoenix as a sidearm for HvZ and I’d prefer to run 10 round mags in a sidearm rather than 18s as that’ll make it awkward to holster.
We’d be happy to answer any of your product questions! Shoot us an e-mail to orders@outofdarts.com regarding any product questions. We are on e-mail much more consistently than social media and will respond to you much more promptly there!
Yes you can. All adapters will fit in full-length "N-Strike" style magwells, with the standard, centered adapter being designed for springers. We sell worker short darts on the shop, but Adventure Force Pro half-lengths are a Walmart Exclusive. We’d be happy to answer any more of your product questions! Shoot us an e-mail to orders@outofdarts.com regarding any product questions or information regarding your order. We are on e-mail much more consistently than social media and will respond to you much more promptly there!
Great video guys! I really like the custom talon colours you sell, especially the purple. Will you do a video on 2D printed mags such as Than's Thanhos mags? That would interesting as I have recently been printing some of my own. Also, I have a dessert pigeon which can use the custom angled "pecker" mags and also regular talons, do the new angled ones work with it too or is the catch in a different place?
That sounds like a great video on its own! As for the dessert pigeon, I (Perry) personally don't know. Shoot us an e-mail to orders@outofdarts.com regarding any modding or product questions. We are on e-mail much more consistently than social media and will respond to you much more promptly there! - Perry
It appears that the Snake V2 only takes regular Talon geometry, so only the straight 15s, curved 18s, or our 29-round Tachis would work. I would, however, double-check with the designer and see if a V3 is in the works to accept angled mags.
Acc darts?? Also there is a katana compatible mag-grip for the lepus 😉..... Oh and the worker flywheel magadapers only work on a few flywheelers. For the rayven for example you have to cut a bit off the bottom front bit of the adapter for it to fit in the rayven magwell
Hi I have a question. Does the cage type matter in a flywheel blaster when trying to feed short darts? I have heard that high crush motors are necessary for proper feeding, but I would like a second opinion.
We’d be happy to answer any more of your modding questions! Shoot us an e-mail to orders@outofdarts.com. We are on e-mail much more consistently than social media and will respond to you much more promptly there!
I have a question about using short darts in a flywheel blaster. Do I need to modify my strife to use short darts and if I do need to mod my strife can I still use full length darts in my strife?
Are there any injection molded mag converters for Katana Mags that I could buy? I notice Jet Blaster is out of stock and I need some converters. I use Game Face mags (essentially Jet Katanas) but the follower doesn’t go to the top of the mag when using AF converters. Thanks!
Angled mag brings one really nice thing to the table - mag-in-grip pistols. Sure you can do them in straight mags, but the angled grip is generally more comfortable.
For springers, you usually don't need to modify the blaster apart from inserting the mag adapter. Flywheelers usually need an extended pusher for it to function with short darts.
do you guys make a mag adapter that has a pusher rod extension built in so one could potentially on-the-fly switch between regular length dart magazines and a short length dart adapter 'W' short dart mag?? =/ Thanks in advance. =)
It should be... Shoot us an e-mail to orders@outofdarts.com regarding any product questions. We are on e-mail much more consistently than social media and will respond to you much more promptly there!
Since the first Nerf mod I started is the Vector Stryfe with v6 select fire kit, I am very interested in the angled mag/adapter combo. Although, I may get the Stryfle MK2 with Magnus Masterkey done first... the last of the 3D printed bits are running on my CR-6 SE right now...
That depends on the type of blaster, but we've had good experiences with Dart Zone Pro "Bamboo" darts and Adventure Force Pro Darts. Stay tuned though. We'll do another whole video on dart comparisons. - Perry
Since short darts are more accurate than full-lengths, you actually would statistically reload the same or less often than if you had full-length mags. That along with the added capacity, make short darts the premiere ammo type of the hobby.
The front-facing flywheeler adapter (standard or Angled Talon) allows the dart to make contact with the flywheels. The regular talon adapters can't push a dart that far. - Perry
So... since nobody mentioned it, what was the front rail section of your Talon Claw printed with? I think it would be a great filament for my Super SPAMF!
The Conquest Pro is confirmed to take Adventure Force Pro Mags, Dart Zone Max Mags, and Worker straight-15 Talon mags. Talons do have a tendency to dislodge themselves during slam-fire, but otherwise work fine. P.S. Curved-18 Talons, and our own OOD Tachi mags can work with a bit of shell cutting. We have even seen some people make a stock out of a Tachi setup, but try this at your own risk.
Yes, most all pre-made half-length darts with tapered heads work in the Nexus Pro. However, do not expect hand-cut Adventure Force waffle heads to work well. Too much barrel drag. - Perry