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@kingarth0r
@kingarth0r 9 месяцев назад
I cant tell you how many times Ive met people who said "I wish I was homeschooled" because I was able to do my own curriculum and do advanced math from a young age.
@gilgameschvonuruk4982
@gilgameschvonuruk4982 9 месяцев назад
not all parents can afford to homeschool, but homeschooling is nice
@zuffin1864
@zuffin1864 9 месяцев назад
It's not just that, its learning it in a casual way with no stressful test environment or peer comparison. The experience of just doing the math, shaping your approach to the subject
@Mr_CyberCookie
@Mr_CyberCookie 9 месяцев назад
There's something called Agora in the Netherlands basically the same thing
@CameronChunnTheOriginal
@CameronChunnTheOriginal 9 месяцев назад
@@gilgameschvonuruk4982 While this is true to an extent, I think a lot of people are not willing to give up some convenience for the sake of their children. I don't say that as an attack, because we are all so conditioned by our modern context. I just also know some folks who have chosen to live within lower means and be a single income household purely for the sake of their children's education (both in academics and in faith) -- and I think its a discussion a lot of folks should be open to at least exploring in their families.
@gilgameschvonuruk4982
@gilgameschvonuruk4982 9 месяцев назад
@@CameronChunnTheOriginal I believe it when I see it
@kolab5620
@kolab5620 9 месяцев назад
If chick-fil-a workers ran the world we'd probably solve all the world's problems in 6 days
@madisonmeyers5493
@madisonmeyers5493 9 месяцев назад
And rest on the seventh
@danshakuimo
@danshakuimo 9 месяцев назад
@@madisonmeyers5493 Imagine the world government closing down on Sundays so everyone just has to behave
@TheRareOcelot
@TheRareOcelot 9 месяцев назад
​@@danshakuimo Your government doesnt????
@robwhite3241
@robwhite3241 9 месяцев назад
@@danshakuimo Lol there was an Andy Griffith episode where they just let out the one guy in jail because it was Sunday. "Alright be back here Monday morning!" or something like that.
@somethingratty
@somethingratty 9 месяцев назад
@@robwhite3241you just brought back a whole lot of good memories
@antiquereality3168
@antiquereality3168 9 месяцев назад
I'm 18, nearly 19, and grew up on the south side of Chicago my entire life. I've been homeschooled since 1st grade since my parents disliked the public schools around here. Never had enough money for private school. I graduated earlier this year and couldn't be more thankful for being homeschooled
@keagaming9837
@keagaming9837 8 месяцев назад
Congrats on graduating! I hope you will stay a strong Christian. This world is tough!
@officialmycrazyamericanfat7811
@officialmycrazyamericanfat7811 9 месяцев назад
Will forever maintain that being an atheist in highschool made me a better Christian because I'd read the Bible with the most critical eye and studied it on a much deeper level than anyone else in my family. Because of that I'm much more knowledge on Scripture and church history than most people I meet. It's true what they say "The best Christians are converts" and I somehow managed to get the best of both worlds. Truly he loved me before I knew him.
@dokidelta1175
@dokidelta1175 9 месяцев назад
Absolutely true
@sadscientisthououinkyouma1867
@sadscientisthououinkyouma1867 9 месяцев назад
I think it is an interesting effect that needs scientific study. It seems to me that people who are uneducated but learning something will switch their views when confronted with evidence they are wrong (perhaps you saw some highly convincing philosophical arguments?) and will then continue learning the objections to that new view until they can defend it. It seems to be true in both directions, like for instance the most convincing atheist aren't people like Dawkins but rather people like Ehrman who came from a background of Christianity and believed in a literal interpretation of the Bible becoming Atheist once a literal interpretation was shown objectively wrong.
@keagaming9837
@keagaming9837 8 месяцев назад
So true! Some of the best Christians that I know are converts from atheism! Welcome to Christianity, btw! ✝❤
@Spingus33
@Spingus33 6 месяцев назад
100%! I just found Jesus last month after being agnostic for the first 15 years of my life, never been better!
@thomasc9036
@thomasc9036 9 месяцев назад
It all depends on the public school. My daughters went to a Bay Area public school (wealthy leftists) and they are fine. During the height of the transgender bathroom issue, one of the school officials brought it up and got shot down pretty quickly. Most liberals/leftists in the Bay Area live conservative lifestyles while promoting liberal ideologies outside of their school districts or neighborhoods. They are all about "as long as it's not in my area".
@wild_burn
@wild_burn 9 месяцев назад
Yeah this definitely changed in the last couple of years. Transgenders were taught to be treated as a protected class and I was also taught the HIV rates for Homosexuals being higher was just coincidence. At least down in San Diego
@thomasc9036
@thomasc9036 9 месяцев назад
@@wild_burn There are "head leftists" and "body leftists". These "heads" are very well-to-do leftists and they live very conservative lifestyles (like Zuckerberg). The "body" leftists are "cannon fodders" or "idiots" like you see rioting. These "body" leftists are similar to mindless zombies. The same principle applies to conservatives. There are many "zombie" conservatives.
@longiusaescius2537
@longiusaescius2537 9 месяцев назад
@thomasc9036 exactly
@keagaming9837
@keagaming9837 8 месяцев назад
@@wild_burn HIV rates for homosexuals being higher is just a coincidence? I press X to doubt. I've been deep in the LGBTQ+ community before, I've seen some dark stuff... I think the HIV rates are actually higher than the CDC says they are.
@witch_painting_memory
@witch_painting_memory 9 месяцев назад
I am a millennial who I went to public school my whole life. I always used to scoff at homeschooling. Now? I feel pretty confident that my hypothetical future kids will be homeschooled. It's not even about Christianity. If school was the same as it was when I went to school, that would be one thing. As a Christian, I think it's actually very good to be exposed to kids of alternative viewpoints and religions. However... I just know that if I had been in school today rather than 20 years ago, I would have absolutely started identifying as non-binary. Probably even a trans man eventually. Who knows what sort of damage I would have done to myself? I was gender confused from age 8 all the way through college (not anymore, thank goodness). And the only reason why I didn't end up doing something I regretted was because this trans nonsense was not in schools yet. And I'm just not willing to risk that sort of thing happening to my kids. Gender confusion is a very common thing for children, and there's no way I'll put a gender confused kid in a position to be exploited by the alphabet brigade if I can help it. EDIT: Because there appears to be some confusion, I am a woman, not a man. :) Also, to the people replying who are upset over some random internet stranger feeling and thinking and living differently to you, you'll be in my prayers.
@violeteyes
@violeteyes 9 месяцев назад
you can't even pretend not to be bigoted... 'alphbet brigade'? are you serious? i feel bad for your future children...
@colebacca1369
@colebacca1369 9 месяцев назад
@@violeteyeswhat’s wrong with what he said? Sounds like his kids are gonna be awesome and based
@tj-co9go
@tj-co9go 9 месяцев назад
Nah I doubt it, or your gendef identity is not very strong. Public school didn't have any such effect on me. None
@violeteyes
@violeteyes 9 месяцев назад
@@colebacca1369 imagine what this person will say if their child is gay? do you think they will be accepting? I'm queer and regardless of how my parents feel about it I will still be queer. imo the purpose of parenthood is to raise a well adjusted, healthy person, not to pass on a religious doctrine, and a child should be encouraged to explore their identity, including gender. trans people will continue to exist regardless of if they are accepted.
@colebacca1369
@colebacca1369 9 месяцев назад
@@violeteyes they will probably love them. I’d love my kid even if he was gay. Shoot I love my brother to death, who IS gay. And no, they should not be encouraged to to “explore their identity” at a young age, that’s preposterous. Kids need firm guidance in the truth, not being pushed to be delusional. Sweet. You continue to exist as a trans person, and we will continue to not accept that identity, sounds like a great compromise. That’s what a lot of people want anyways.
@IK-qu1hz
@IK-qu1hz 9 месяцев назад
As a person who went to public school, I agree. Current public schools are really cesspits (especially schools in the ghettos where I went) and you can get really tempted by the social environment. I unfortunately got tempted and ended up going to a school program in Texas called DAEP (Disciplinary Alternative Education Programs). The environment was 10 times worse than in regular public school. Students there would have some of the vilest things come out of their mouths. Some would break things, kick doors open, attempting escape to "go to the strip club", and jump on desks it was an actual circus. Majority of them were in that place for drugs, assault, home invasion, and other wrongful things and in the most severe cases they would be sent to juvie. I was a sinful kid but even then that made me realize I did not want to go down that path. I matured and changed some of my ways but it wasn't until this year when I found my Christian faith that I looked back on the things I did and the environment I was in and thanked God for making me see the light. While my past was not good, I do not regret it since I experienced what living in the world is like and realized I did not want to partake. Learning about God reinforced that view and on top of that he taught me the ultimate consequence of following the world. Praise the Lord!
@BestBuddyNoivern
@BestBuddyNoivern 9 месяцев назад
I (23M) teach public high school in Texas and I've never met anyone who went through the DAEP and came back in a better place. First was my old middle school bully who got sent there for his MANY transgressions against girls (upskirting, slap ass Friday, the whole nine yards). I've heard only whispers but supposedly he only got more aggressive as time went on. Second was my ex. I haven't kept up with her but she's mentioned wanting to become a stripper (yes, SERIOUSLY). And third was one of my chemistry students. She dropped out within a week of returning. Whereabouts unknown but probably not good. Pray for everyone in the DAEP. They need Jesus and the Holy Spirit more direly than most.
@Young_Christian7
@Young_Christian7 9 месяцев назад
From my experience, public school literally threw me in the worst course possible. Their way of handling situations just hurt me more than helped. Maybe not all public schools are bad, but i found it easier going to a Christian school. Besides, i get to learn Greek so thats neat. 👍
@ReplyToMeIfUrRetarded
@ReplyToMeIfUrRetarded 9 месяцев назад
Greek is my ancestors language.
@Young_Christian7
@Young_Christian7 9 месяцев назад
@@ReplyToMeIfUrRetarded cool. 😎
@coffeyallday
@coffeyallday 9 месяцев назад
I can’t stress enough how important school board elections are. Since most people don’t care about these races, they are very easy to take control of electorally. Even if you don’t send your kids to public schools, you still need to be invested in these races
@wild_burn
@wild_burn 9 месяцев назад
No system with more Hypocrisy than Democracy. If the results turn out in to be “undesirable”, it could always be changed or ignored. No what matters is public pressure and demonstration. That’s how leftist revolutionaries had their way.
@amany247
@amany247 9 месяцев назад
No god but Allah Islam way for peace and real monotheist Search about the truth with honest heart.
@wild_burn
@wild_burn 9 месяцев назад
@@amany247 If God is all powerful then why would he only let Man have a son, but he himself couldn’t?
@dumbcomputing
@dumbcomputing 9 месяцев назад
Thanks for the insights, Zoomer. Over the last decade, I have, as an Orthodox Christian, worked for a public school district, a LCMS Lutheran University, and a Catholic 7-12 private school doing educational IT administration. Over six years working for an urban school district, I saw a lot of good and bad, and let me tell you one thing: just because a school may be run by Christians or run by "secular" governments doesn't necessarily mean much. For instance, at the LCMS university, when I first started and until I left, there was an environment of political leftism that was much more identifiable than at the public school district with an entirely blue school board in a blue state. It's important for parents to consider every educational path that would be viable for their child's success. I've seen a lot of success among homeschooled individuals who were maybe a little ackward, but they tend to grow out of it fast. Sometimes public schools might be the only option financially or reasonably available. It's very important for parents to be present in their child's educational journey, no matter what label the school is associated with, and to try to make the best of what educational resources are available.
@amany247
@amany247 9 месяцев назад
No god but Allah Islam way for peace and real monotheist Search about the truth with honest heart.
@TheGreatLlamaJockey
@TheGreatLlamaJockey 9 месяцев назад
I went through both K-3rd grade I went to a private Calvinist school and they made us read the KJV in ye olde English. I noticed when I switched to public school in 4th grade I was so far ahead of the rest of my class. I could do algebra before anybody else and my reading level was insanely high. 6-11th grade was miserable and I went through a lot of the same things that Redeemed Zoomer did. 12th grade I was homeschooled but I had a super cool youth group at this Baptist mega church and it was the first time I made new friends in years (I was a loner most of my life). I loved my youth group friends so much I looked forward to going to church on sundays and Wednesdays
@charles21137
@charles21137 9 месяцев назад
I didn’t think I was that smart compared to the other kids in my class, until a fraction of the kids in my class argued that a butterfly was a bird(might I ad that this was in 10th grade, the school education system has fail us)
@keagaming9837
@keagaming9837 8 месяцев назад
I heard that a Catholic nun can teach Spanish way faster than a public school teacher can. I think it's because the Catholic schools are always so harsh and very fast paced, but yeah it is true.
@samplautz5586
@samplautz5586 6 месяцев назад
@@charles21137I remember in the mid 2000s I was in 5th grade in public school, and math was really boring to me. That’s because I was pretty good at math, and I wasn’t learning much. Went to private school the next year, and they had me take a placement test. Was immediately put a year ahead in math
@boazlickliter6629
@boazlickliter6629 9 месяцев назад
As a Reformed Christian who attends a private Fundamentalist Christian school, I find it very accurate how Redeemed Zoomer made his impression of the staff at those schools. At those kind of school, everyone is indoctrinated into the theology of the person who owns it. Basically, my school adheres to Fundamentalist Pentecostal theology, and they are all strongly Young Earth Creationist. There really isn't a lot of room for disagreement when it comes to matters of the age of the earth and evolution.
@dokidelta1175
@dokidelta1175 9 месяцев назад
That was my school too. I had no idea there were other ideas outside of that until I was like 14-15 years old.
@JonBrase
@JonBrase 9 месяцев назад
Unfortunately, neither YECs, OECs, nor unbelievers tend to really understand the epistemology of the situation. The point of disagreement is on assumptions that cannot be empirically proven and that must be chosen before any empirical conclusions can be drawn. Miracles, by definition, result in a situation where what appears to have happened if you take the present situation and run the laws of physics backward to a time before the miracle is *not* the same as what actually happened. An unbeliever must be convinced that miracles can occur before any debate on specific miracles (such as creation) is possible. For believers, YEC vs. OEC is strictly a matter of the interpretation of Genesis and must be answered before any scientific interpretation is possible. I'll also note that even in a YEC scenario, processes that have not had time to occur since creation can still be relevant: just because Adam and Eve had not been born the usual way does not mean that on day 7 the specifics of human reproduction were irrelevant to them!
@ThunderClawShocktrix
@ThunderClawShocktrix 8 месяцев назад
I would agree that the neodarwinist form of evolution is wrong but also that the earth and univrse are old
@kingarth0r
@kingarth0r 9 месяцев назад
While I do think homeschooling can be great. Not everyone can homeschool and not everyone should. If you want public schools to be better people shouldnt be running away.
@tedcruz212
@tedcruz212 9 месяцев назад
I started out in public school until 10th grade, then finished our high school at a Christian private school. Honestly the damage to my mental health from public school was horrible, I hated everyone and everything, I was deeply racist (my public schools were… diverse…) and I was super lonely. Genuinely in the 5 years since graduating high school, I am still friends with my Christian school friends, we even went to college together and are still best friends now. Long story short, I will never send my kids to a public school, those places are Godless cesspools that breed misery and confusion on a degree that’s absolutely mind boggling.
@arthurgabriel2625
@arthurgabriel2625 9 месяцев назад
Are you not racist now??
@amany247
@amany247 9 месяцев назад
No god but Allah Islam way for peace and real monotheist Search about the truth with honest heart.
@77Friction
@77Friction 9 месяцев назад
@@amany247Muhammad said if he was a false prophet that Allah would cut his aorta. Allah did just that. Muhammad is a false prophet.
@longiusaescius2537
@longiusaescius2537 9 месяцев назад
@tedcruz212 "It is quite legitimate for nations to treat their differences as a sacred inheritance and guard them at all costs" - Pius XII
@keagaming9837
@keagaming9837 8 месяцев назад
As someone who went to public school for 13 years, I can confirm that yes public schools are very bad! Public schools do produce strong Christians like what Redeemed Zoomer said, and I think it overall is a good experience to be in a public school just to be strong mentally, but yeah. There were so many mean people in public school. Sex ed was basically just saying to use protection and briefly going over the organs without talking about the urges, it barely said anything about abstinence or having self control. There was so much sex at the public schools that I went to, the teachers didn't really teach self control. Public schools are just pools of hormones, revealingness, and impulsiveness. I met a few friends but there but there were so many groomers and abusers. Literally all of the groomers and abusers that I encountered were atheists, and some of the nicest people that I met were Christian!
@caleblaw3497
@caleblaw3497 9 месяцев назад
I myself grew up in a private Christian school back in Hong Kong. I went to the same school from kindergarten all the way to high school. Christian schools in Hong Kong have high academic standard. In fact a lot of the best schools in Hong Kong are either Catholic or Protestant. I am now living in the Bay Area, one of the most liberal metros in the US. My daughter will be getting to school age and I am debating if I should send her to a Christian school. Your video is very useful for me. The percentage of my classmates being Christians after graduating is certainly higher than people from public schools. Even for those who don't believe, all of them respect the Christian teachings. Another question would be, how early should we expose our kids to liberal teachings? Should we go with public school all the way, Christian school all the way, or start with a Christian school and switch to a public school when they are older?
@jkjkjkjkjkjk6565
@jkjkjkjkjkjk6565 9 месяцев назад
Blessings! I’m not a parent but do hear a lot of these conversations at my local church. Familiarize yourself with the curriculuma of the Christian schools in your area and compare it to scripture and also your education you had back home. Pray about it with your spouse and family. I don’t know how else to help you but that’s all I got 😅 Prayers for you all !
@SomeoneOrthodox
@SomeoneOrthodox 9 месяцев назад
I feel very lucky now, here in Romania (a mainly orthodox country) public schools are very frendly with religion, most of the students are religious, basicly all teachers are religios and it is great, i had a teacher that was so religious she went to church every sunday and friday at the night liturgy, she took lent everytime it sayed to, she was awesome, i also had a history teacher who was so religious, she had a big cross neckles and always talked about how important and beautiful christianity is.
@clipPRmusic
@clipPRmusic 6 месяцев назад
Something similar occurs here in (the western part) of Puerto Rico. Our culture is infused with the Catholic Church and so most people (even Protestants) have a large notion of Catholic holidays and traditions.
@user-xu9xl3dh3b
@user-xu9xl3dh3b 6 месяцев назад
Foarte bine, așa trebuie
@zuffin1864
@zuffin1864 9 месяцев назад
My first experience with being close to a sexual predator (proximity wise) was my 6th grade female swim teacher, so i always had trouble listening to feminist garbage in public school because i knew how flawed we all are. I think it lead to my faith now
@keagaming9837
@keagaming9837 8 месяцев назад
My first encounter with a sexual predator was in 9th grade, I didn't know he was one until the news came out that he went to jail! I think he will be out of jail soon sadly, but yeah he was an atheist and I think very anti-religious. I swear, it's always the groomers who are atheists. I think this all has also helped my faith grow, especially since I've seen how bad the LGBTQ+ super far left liberal atheists can be. Don't trust when people say it's perfectly normal to act on one's urges... it is a huge red flag.
@arriba_teruel
@arriba_teruel 9 месяцев назад
in spain catholic religion is mandatory until primary school, then it's optative. in secondary school instead of having philosophy for those who don't go to religion the mfs added a class of doing nothing so people go to there, and in bachillerato (7th and 8th grade for you) you literally go home if you don't go to religion. I love your videos so much. I converted to catholicism thanks to you.
@OkPe-ww5rs
@OkPe-ww5rs 8 месяцев назад
Language bro
@JonathanD7
@JonathanD7 9 месяцев назад
I’m in public high school down south, and I can say that it is not as bad down here as people say it is
@kyosuke181
@kyosuke181 9 месяцев назад
Same, here in SC, it's really chill here
@wild_burn
@wild_burn 9 месяцев назад
Praise God you weren’t born in the East or West coast
@kyosuke181
@kyosuke181 9 месяцев назад
@@wild_burn honestly, I feel like America in general is kinda crappy, regardless of which area you're at, it's just that the South is more chill After I get my Master's in Game Design, I might move to another country
@wild_burn
@wild_burn 9 месяцев назад
@@kyosuke181 For all of American’s flaws, at the very least it’s not against the law to have the wrong opinion (yet). Though it’s your decision at the of the day, and if you can truly find a better life then go for it.
@DonPedroman
@DonPedroman 9 месяцев назад
Man, this hits home, the catholic school I went to for 13 years has completely started do decline academically at a worrying pace, and yes, the problem is inadequate cathechesis in the familial enviroment, also I have seen a declin in the religiousness of adults in the last decade, sad to see.
@DTHRocket
@DTHRocket 9 месяцев назад
All I know is that I was homeschooled mostly and partly public school, and I will DEFINITELY be homsechooling my own kids if God ever grants us any. It's not just the problem of political and anti-christian indoctrination. It's just the worst model for education imaginable, poor learning environment, moves at the pace of the slowest kid, and your "socialization" is with a bunch of unruly kids that don't respect authority.
@denkillen
@denkillen 9 месяцев назад
I'm reminded of Ken Ham's comparison to Peter's ministry to the Jews versus Paul's ministry to the Greeks: Christian parents don't properly prepare their children for what the world has to offer, send them out into the "Greek" institutions to preach the Gospel they never really learned, and are then shocked to find that their children come back "Greek" themselves. I went to a Christian middle school and it was easily worse than anything high school had to offer. The curriculum was weak and disciplinary action towards troublemakers was shockingly lax. Public high school definitely gave me a stronger metric to test my own beliefs against just when modern progressivism was really starting to take off.
@HistoryEnjoyer3010
@HistoryEnjoyer3010 9 месяцев назад
I have always been raised in public schools until a few years ago because of several severe issues that happened there. I appreciate the video
@elijahwills7331
@elijahwills7331 9 месяцев назад
h o m e s c h o o l i n g (With lots of clubs and get togethers)
@hismajesty6272
@hismajesty6272 9 месяцев назад
There are also “homeschool groups” that are basically hands off schools made up of homeschool families if the clubs and get togethers aren’t cutting it.
@thephotoshopper5908
@thephotoshopper5908 9 месяцев назад
I wish I was homeschooled. The public schools screwed me up when it comes to math and I have to take the SAT next month and I’m struggling with what should be easy math.
@cupojoe4769
@cupojoe4769 9 месяцев назад
I'm getting a degree in education and truly want public schools to succeed. Most people don't have another option and we have to live, drive, and vote among the people public schools educate. Personally, I directly benefited from public school as my parents are poor and not well-educated. Christian parents, being more concerned and involved with their children's growth than many other parents, often raise good students. Well-prepared students and involved, supporting parents are more the cornerstone of education than anything else so it is generally a blessing for teachers and other students to have Christian classmates. The schools also benefit from guidance of decent parents who are often Christian. That said, schools have become intolerable. The quality is in decline, standards falling, students misbehaving with impunity, and teachers and administration unwilling or unable to even slow down the problems. Even under prudent management, the problems of the modern world leaking into schools may be too much. Teachers cannot even discipline students over clear misbehavior without being screamed at by parents. The matter of enabled or encouraged radical students and teachers will only worsen as well. If I were to send my own child to a public school now or in the near future, I would think I'm laying stumbling blocks ahead of them - all for a potentially subpar education.
@moonless4246
@moonless4246 9 месяцев назад
ngl everything this man has said in this vid is so true and im legit experiencing all of what he said in this moment, even when im in england , it still appiles.
@icxcarnie
@icxcarnie 9 месяцев назад
Redeemed Zoomer, can you make a video on different Bible translations? You are no stranger to controversial subjects. Also, use scaffolding instead of wood!!!!!!!
@kingarth0r
@kingarth0r 9 месяцев назад
KJV ESV and NIV good. RSV, NASB, NJKV are fine too. NRSV, NABRE, are ok but have a couple sus stuff. NLT, MSG, and any other "translation" that are just paraphrases are not good. Then there's heretical translations like the jehovas witness and Mormon Bible.
@CoachCNY
@CoachCNY 9 месяцев назад
I work in schools supporting teachers to improve practice. I think there's a massive misunderstanding about just how poor teacher training is now, and how much that explains the current situation. You're given crap training, under supported, things get worse, and you get jaded and hopeless. Any ray of hope, however ineffective, becomes like a life saver. And, even when we know better and pilot new means with significantly improved strategies, the degree of institutional resistance (from habit, fear, or apathy from one useless initiative after another) is tremendous. But we are improving in my region. I'm glad I was put in a place to be part of an effective solution. Every day I'm watching capacity build, kids improve, and teachers come to life.
@BrohoshaphatG
@BrohoshaphatG 9 месяцев назад
To the contrary, I would say even just a few dozen hours of reviewing high quality debates with Christian apologists is a better inoculation against anti-christian argumentation than a dozen years of public school. I think the issues you correctly raise regarding sheltered cradle Christians are to be solved by deliberate study of apologetics, philosophy, deeper theology, and historic dialogue, rather than increasing their daily secular influence. Much respect, RZ, God bless.
@Nguyenzander
@Nguyenzander 9 месяцев назад
As a person who has always been in a Christian private school, I've been to schools with very high focus on catechizing and education. I have had very good teachers and all the classes aren't just sermons. I don't know if my schools are outliers but I haven't seen a Christian school that teaches the faith but not actually teaching. I know some "Christian" schools that are pretty non-Christian but none with that problem.
@s3v3n3
@s3v3n3 9 месяцев назад
The ability to play Minecraft and commentate at the same time for 26 minutes is astounding, I'd lose my words in not even a minute. God bless!
@fisfishy1244
@fisfishy1244 9 месяцев назад
In my opinion homeschooling should become more mainstream.
@AndrewBrownK
@AndrewBrownK 9 месяцев назад
"13 years surrounded by fellow children and government employees" = "seen it all" hilarious
@diegob2018
@diegob2018 8 месяцев назад
This man has never had a bad day in his life and it shows
@ihatetheantichrist8043
@ihatetheantichrist8043 8 месяцев назад
​@@diegob2018lol dont act like you're oppressed just because you are a sex pest in a way too tolerant society
@farmerupbeat
@farmerupbeat 2 месяца назад
@@diegob2018lmao that comment makes no sense
@cookechris28
@cookechris28 9 месяцев назад
Yes. It is vital for socializing and culturally acclimating any child to the rest of the world. Regardless of belief or faith, if a child is unmoored from their peers and equals, they're going to find themselves isolated and unhappy. School is the easiest, cheapest, most useful and utilitarian safeguard against that.
@waterbuffalowings
@waterbuffalowings 9 месяцев назад
I was publicly educated and wouldn't wish it on anyone
@FlygonkingVGC
@FlygonkingVGC 9 месяцев назад
Every other kids Christian film: 🤓 Veggie tales: 😎
@tiger5869
@tiger5869 9 месяцев назад
Breaking News: Zoomer is against retreatism
@Vulg8
@Vulg8 9 месяцев назад
Atheism Vaccines… I relate to that on so many levels
@caidenreid1097
@caidenreid1097 9 месяцев назад
I grew up attending portland public schools, as well as an Catholic school I got kicked out of. Portland public schools are a joke, but I was surprised that even liberal values were taught at Catholic school. We had a social worker come into my health class and explain that racism does not exist towards white people, that there are infinite genders, etc. A lot of my close friends from Catholic school are as degenerate as my public school friends (not saying I’m holier than thou, I’m degenerate as well). But yeah portland is ridiculous, plenty of public school teachers openly expressing anti Christian opinions.
@LuzianJ
@LuzianJ 8 месяцев назад
The wokes have hijacked Catholic schools too. Catholic schools used to be rigorous in education but the quality is decreasing due to the woke crowd coming in after destroying public schools. They cause intellectual rot everywhere they go.
@EmberMusic000
@EmberMusic000 9 месяцев назад
Not a Christian but state schooling is generally garbage. The quality and environment are awful even outside inner cities. They serve to advance the interest of the state not to genuinely educate people or teach them how to think for themselves or prepare them to pursue their own goals.
@GoatGuitars6
@GoatGuitars6 6 месяцев назад
As a Baptist your analogy of a vaccine is the best way to explain this
@The_Proud_Texan
@The_Proud_Texan 9 месяцев назад
As a high school senior (public school) I have absolutely loved high school. My sister (who went to the same school) also loved high school and she now hates college. All this to say not everyone has the same opinions on high school. (Of course in my high school almost everyone says they are Christian. Still lots of degeneracy but less.)
@hilohilo9539
@hilohilo9539 9 месяцев назад
Well, in my public high school in the mountains of Tennessee biology teachers refused to teach macro evolution as a fact, as none of them believed it themselves. Multiple teachers have crosses and verses of scripture on their classroom walls, and religion is frequently talked about with the teachers to the students. We have no sexual education classes, and never have had them in my county. There is also still public prayer before athletic events in certain parts of the region. I guess it just depends on what part of the country you're in.
@alexdriskell
@alexdriskell 9 месяцев назад
As some others that went to public schools from the south have said that it wasn’t that bad at all for me. A lot of the teachers that I had throughout my education went to church every Sunday, were devout,faithful Christians, & you could tell it too. All the Christian teachers were the most beloved & the most personable & by far students who had personal issues would go to those teachers for counsel & advice. I know it differs in the other parts of the country so i guess my opinion on the matter would be 1). If you can afford private Christian school go for it 2). If the current public school(s) you’re child is zoned for aren’t teaching woke anti-Christian & aren’t hiring woke anti-Christian teachers then your kid will be fine more than likely
@Real-pn7mj
@Real-pn7mj 9 месяцев назад
I had en encounter with Jesus Christ when covid started. He is coming soon. He died 2000 years ago for our sins and rose again on the third day so we can be made right with God. Jesus: I am The Way, The Truth, and The Life, no man comes unto The Father but thou Me. May God Bless You!
@miguelatkinson
@miguelatkinson 9 месяцев назад
Please stop saying he's coming soon because it's been 2,000 years now and with all the predictions made in the past by people who said to have had "visions" and "encounters" of jesus christ or God and turns out to be wrong and also did you experience an physical/objective encounter with this jesus christ or was more of a fuzzy hallucinogenic kinda of experience
@kidsuperman
@kidsuperman 9 месяцев назад
RZ, you say that you take an intellectual approach to christianity because of your denomination and I was wondering, what are your opinions on things like evolution, how our solar system was formed, or the big bang? I'm a pentecostal but contrary to the opinion of us I'm not very emotional or pompous, and I (this was not taught in any sermon or lecture) fully believe in everything I've listed previously because science has proved them beyond a doubt (not fully as we don't know what happened before the big bang). Anyhow alls this to say that how do you feel about scientific findings contradicting the bible? Do you take the stance that God set these into motion? Or do you think that the bible shows signs of age? I'd like to hear your take on it and if you would make a kingdom craft episode on it that'd be amazing too. Sorry for the long winded comment I was just wanted to establish context that I'm not a heretic or anything but was really interested.
@Savedsmile
@Savedsmile 9 месяцев назад
He actually answered all these questions before, and yes, he believes that evolution DOES exist.
@HE4DSHOT059
@HE4DSHOT059 9 месяцев назад
I would like to know which video did zoomer say it @@Savedsmile
@alexism6138
@alexism6138 9 месяцев назад
I'd recommend reading John Taylor Gatto's book Dumbing Us Down, it's an exploration of all the complex and unrecognized ways public school harms children, written by a long time award winning public school teacher who saw it from the inside. Also you should watch God's Not Dead, it's so bad it's absolutely hilarious!
@no1ofconsequence936
@no1ofconsequence936 9 месяцев назад
I went to a public middle school for a brief time. My faith was never challenged, even in science class; my emotional wellbeing was (Though not as much in science class. Good teacher). This was my main concern with sending my (future, theoretical) kids to public school. And when I hear about the mania around public schooling (including from my mom, a newly minted teacher herself), I don't want my kids getting thrown into that. Even my mom, a public school teacher, supports me in this. My mom didn't become a teacher because anything about it was good; I get the feeling it had more to do with making things good, if only a little more. Really, social media was a bigger hurtle for my faith, but it only made me stronger. As for the "it's good because it's Christian" thing, yeah, I get that. It might be safe in some ways but it isn't of good quality. I'd really like more Christian creatives to be able to let loose and make things which are glorifying to God both nominally and effectually.
@tskjesusfreak
@tskjesusfreak 9 месяцев назад
There are ways to do homeschooling without sheltering them. Like have them watch Dr. James White or William Lane Craig debates.
@colinz226
@colinz226 9 месяцев назад
Perhaps you read different books and went to different schools, but never in my education did I get the impression the European colonists were so terrible to the natives of places they colonized because they were Christian I got that impression because the colonists were racist.
@andreman86
@andreman86 9 месяцев назад
The fact that American schools teach gender theory scares me tbh Here in Greece (strictly Orthodox) we barely had Sex. Ed. and like what we did have is just how the genitals work lmao? Not any gender theory or whatever? History is mostly just giving a non-religious view of the world but we still have the Christian mind-set when talking about history so it's pretty good, and we also have a pretty strict religion class where we got Bible verses and we just study the Christian faith! Meanwhile the kids are just all Christian, although like most of them aren't that "strict" about it if that makes sense? Like they are Christian but don't care much, some of them are not following tranditional values but that's just because they aren't educated or don't care about it, others are pretty Christian and like go to Church and stuff it's a mix but there's no Christian shaming and the people who do that are in the minority
@harrygarris6921
@harrygarris6921 9 месяцев назад
Religious values are one thing but another very practical disadvantage of going to public schools in the US is just that the quality of the education isn't very good.
@rebeccalindley153
@rebeccalindley153 9 месяцев назад
The schools are so bad in some areas they don't test the students. They just pass them from one grade to the next.
@bmike410
@bmike410 9 месяцев назад
I want a follow up to this video when you and Mrs. Zoomer have middle-schoolers and then again with high-schoolers. I am a father of 5. We home school but our kids do public school sports. To not consider the cultural and religious impact on your kids when making the decision about school is foolish. Of course you should consider that. Yes the education is also very important but its a whole package. My oldest was in public school up until her first year of middle school. We watched in one year her soft and gentle heart start to get hard and her attitudes shift dramatically. She is now a junior in highschool and thanks us all the time for pulling her out.
@MrLumagone
@MrLumagone 9 месяцев назад
I was unknowingly somewhat catechised by my parents, believers but not church goers. I visited the dark side and in the last 10 years have been drawn towards the light. Thanks for all your great videos!
@andrewstravels2096
@andrewstravels2096 9 месяцев назад
I think that all Christian students should go to a Christian school, especially if it’s operated by their denomination. I’m Catholic and I spent most of my time in Catholic schools. I did go to a public school for a couple years and it was fine, but Catholic schools are way better. I also went to a Catholic high school. No regrets whatsoever going to Catholic schools. I think you get a better education there, especially in this day and age and for the 2 years I went to a public school I’m glad I did it then and not now. I wouldn’t want to do it now and I wouldn’t want my future kids to go there either.
@jdotoz
@jdotoz 9 месяцев назад
My Catholic male-only high school had a note in its alumni newsletter congratulating a classmate on "marrying" his boyfriend.
@andrewstravels2096
@andrewstravels2096 9 месяцев назад
@@jdotoz That’s a shame. Unfortunately not every school is perfect, but some our better than others. I went to a Co Ed High School, which in my opinion is better than an all male or all female school, especially these days.
@Allaiya.
@Allaiya. 9 месяцев назад
I went to a Lutheran elementary & middle school before going to a public high school. We did have to take some classes at the local middle school. In hindsight, I'm glad my parents sent me to a private over public, mainly because the latter allowed poor behavior that wasn't conducive to learning & imo the education was better & expectations were higher. I'd often score in the top 10% on those standardized state tests. And contrary to what many people today think, we learned all parts of history: the good, the bad, the ugly (slavery, Jim Crow etc, Trail of Tears). They didn't sugar coat it. Also at my high school, I could tell my chemistry teacher was a christian. So many physical fights would break out at the public school though & other misbehavior was tolerated. No accountability. I think most of my classmates at the Lutheran school went on to do well. My sis did have a rebellious stage in high school /college but she found her way back & is now sending her kid to a Christian school. That said, if I grew up in an area that had top-rated public schools, I would consider sending them there if cost was a factor.
@Jhd306ck
@Jhd306ck 3 месяца назад
As someone who went to Catholic school for 5 years, there’s two main differences I found in terms of my faith. One is the fact that they were sort of able to hold my faith in check and keep it in order. We did daily prayers, weekly masses, and other stuff. The second is all this opportunity and talks in my religion class really helped me take that step in pursuing my faith and growing in my relationship with God. I switched back to public this year and it gave me that responsibility in keeping my faith in check as it was now my own responsibility to stay close in all terms with God like this is part of his plan he has for me. Bottom line is, you don’t have to but if you think it will help you, definitely give it a shot. Quick note, make sure you find a good Christian school you can trust, cause there are so many Christian schools everywhere driving people away from God.
@moonless4246
@moonless4246 9 месяцев назад
1:40 i have a question on this because in my skl it teaches that the church oppressed and reduced the changes in medicine and treaments throughout medival periods. But if its actually false that it isnt the case then this quote rlly is true. (i go to a public skl in uk )
@wild_burn
@wild_burn 9 месяцев назад
Public Schooling in SoCal is a mixed bag for me. I graduated when the District just stated to put in New Gender theory, and some of the points in CRT were just starting to creep in. The final years of school felt like pulling teeth, and I could confidently say that 50% of what I learned in school has no use in the “real world” I believe public schools are the place we’re tradition goes to die, any “celebration” of different customs is superficial, since it’s the school’s job to create more workers, not scholars or professionals Fortunately I did have few great teachers that encouraged learning outside of school. One of them was my US history teacher who although was a liberal, allowed me to explain my views and didn’t try to silence me. I’ll have the utmost respect for him because of that.
@user-rq6xc6sc7g
@user-rq6xc6sc7g 9 месяцев назад
Hey Zoomer, im Lutheran from Russia. What are good arguments agains the atheist kids in my school (im in 7 grade)
@lowther7046
@lowther7046 9 месяцев назад
I recomend watching Inspiringphilosophy. He makes videos defending christianity against both athiests and muslim.
@user-rq6xc6sc7g
@user-rq6xc6sc7g 9 месяцев назад
@@lowther7046 but how do i put my classmates in the faith?
@lowther7046
@lowther7046 9 месяцев назад
@@user-rq6xc6sc7g Thats a hard question for me to answer since I only been an christian for almost a year now (former athiest). But what I recomend is to simply ask them about their faith and why they don't believe. Don't try to argue people into believing since that only makes them angry. Always keep the conversation civil and try to understand why they think the way they do.
@lowther7046
@lowther7046 9 месяцев назад
I also recomend asking your local preist for advice and looking up other christian apologists on youtube.
@wild_burn
@wild_burn 9 месяцев назад
You can’t disprove God by calling him a hypocrite. Other than that the “Humanity always was religious” or all things in the universe have a cause and effect works too.
@Felipefza
@Felipefza 9 месяцев назад
Hello esto no tiene nada que ver con el video y lo siento, pero quisiera saber si podrías hacer un video hablando sobre las iglesias metodistas pentecostales porfa, porque he visto tus videos y me gustaria que dijieras sobre tu opinions sobre los evangelistas/ protestantes vivo en chile y yo voy a una iglesia metodista pentecostal. Gracias si me estas leyendo :D
@nicholaibjoring624
@nicholaibjoring624 9 месяцев назад
With all due respect, I highly recommend not taking parenting advice from somebody that doesn't have children.
@omgwind5217
@omgwind5217 9 месяцев назад
Hes more giving his thoughts from the perspective as christian person in modern public schools
@TheRareOcelot
@TheRareOcelot 9 месяцев назад
I dont know what you mean? Are you judging him or are you just saying that in general. He was just giving key points so we can decide.
@microwaved_champagne
@microwaved_champagne 9 месяцев назад
im so glad my history classes have taught actual history
@drascalicus5187
@drascalicus5187 9 месяцев назад
Can you do a review of "God's Not Dead." I'd love to hear you shred it to bits.
@BoogiePraisingTheGoodLord
@BoogiePraisingTheGoodLord 9 месяцев назад
Can your server be joined by xbox players?
@miyannapittman5580
@miyannapittman5580 9 месяцев назад
As someone who was homeschooled till fifth grade, went to a small (non-Christian) charter school in fifth and middle school, did my whole freshman year in a public high school, and now am doing a Classical Christian homeschooling program while attending the high school for choir and sports, I have a unique perspective to bring to this discussion. My childhood was blissful, sheltered, stable, and pure. When I started at the charter school I enjoyed it, though the beginning of my "corruption" did occur that year. 6th was also good, until the pandemic cut off all social interaction. Coming back partway through 7th I was exposed to a lot of horrid, nasty stuff due to kids coming in who had been attending the public middle school. I was depressed, had no true friends, was miserable and learning nothing in most of my classes, and had no solace. 8th grade was essentially the same. When I started high school it began as a breath of fresh air, as I finally had friends again and could do extra curriculars. But the academics were still immensely lacking, and I had my greatest crisis of faith so far-- I brought it to confession multiple times but was just no longer believing in God. He had mercy on me, though, and by Pascha I was holding on and am again secure in my faith. Now being mostly homeschooled, but still going to the high school for choir, it's really the most wholesome alternative for me. I can interact with people of differing beliefs and learn to interact with that respectfully, but I am taking challenging courses and also having conversations with several hardcore evangelical baptist types in the homeschool community. It's encouraged me to continue studying my faith, and try to pray more. Thinking about my future children, I don't want them exposed to the stuff I was as early as middle school, through the students. I would rather carefully instruct them from a faith-based perspective-giving the facts, but not glamorizing any of it. I'd likely homeschool to really focus on education, because the main reason I got by in middle school was having a lot of knowledge and credit I retained from my homeschool days that got me through. Sorry to anyone who reads this that it's essentially an essay. Just wanted to share my experience.
@anarchistscum6090
@anarchistscum6090 9 месяцев назад
My Dad is a teacher here in Alabama. He doesn’t teach anti Christian nonsense or gender theory since he’s a Christian but he does say a lot of stuff about the crap that happened in the south. I just wish he would quit shilling for Biden.
@zaclo8480
@zaclo8480 9 месяцев назад
congrats on making it big used to watch your mc vids back in 2016 on your old channel
@Nguyenzander
@Nguyenzander 9 месяцев назад
Zoomer can you make a video about Bible versions? and your opinions on translation styles and such?
@carlose4314
@carlose4314 9 месяцев назад
When I was in high school in the mid 2010s, there was no sex ed or health class. The most conservative teacher was the marine biology teacher.
@jacksonkuzmic
@jacksonkuzmic 9 месяцев назад
It really just depends on the school and the area, I go to a public school in Indiana and it seems fairly unbiased except some of the teachers you can tell are conservative. Also I have never had religion challenged at public school
@Subfann
@Subfann 9 месяцев назад
Hey, I just recently found christianity. I saw comments on videos where people spoke about christ marrying a women and even others claimed to be the bride of christ. Can someone explain from which denonation this comes from?
@redeemedzoomer6053
@redeemedzoomer6053 9 месяцев назад
Yeah, there have always been conspiracy theories about Jesus but no denomination teaches this and no secular scholar thinks there is any chance this happened. You can just ignore it
@Subfann
@Subfann 9 месяцев назад
@@redeemedzoomer6053 Thank you for the fast answer
@Ardni206
@Ardni206 9 месяцев назад
Hey, yes what Zommer says is true. The thing that is biblical is, that the church is called the bride of Christ in the Bible
@motivationallizard6644
@motivationallizard6644 9 месяцев назад
I think your hypothesis on why Americas educational decline is so bad compared to other nations is incorrect. There really isn’t a general incompetence in teachers or staff. What actually causes Americas modern educational dip is a series of policies passed by the Bush and Obama administrations that “standardized” education in the worst ways possible. Bush passed the “No Child Left Behind Act”, which to vastly oversimplify, made a schools funding dependent on standardized test scores. The higher your score the more you get, the lower the less you get. This could work well on paper since good schools get rewarded and bad schools get punished, but what it really did was send most schools into a frenzy, since now their funding and payroll was now dependent on a handful of tests and not the year as a whole. School essentially became one big test prep after No Child Left Behind and most teachers will agree that they try to cram way to much info in a year for most children to remember, just so they can pass the exams. The Act also pretty much killed every arts or social sciences subject since the only ones tested were STEM and English, so most schools would cut funding to the arts and social sciences to give more funding to STEM and English programs to boost test scores. To summarize schools became more about passing tests than actually learning the subject, and teachers don’t really have a choice because their pay and funding is decided based on their test scores. The second big blow to American education was the implementation of Common Core by the Obama administration. Common Core is an initiative that started in 2010 to have states sign onto a standardized method of teaching students mathematics, and that may sound great, but in practice the policy had the opposite effect of what was intended. The methods common core used were dumbed down to an extent that there were often upwards of ten steps required for a basic equation that could be done in half the steps the policy set out or even less. It over complicated and stretched mathematics out to an extent that it become boring and outright tedious to complete, and most parents were unable to help their children with the equations since they weren’t taught that way and the teachers could only accept common core work as actual work from students. I personally and my growth in mathematics stunted by this policy since it was adopted in my state (Tennessee) in my 4th grade year. Now to preface this, I’ve always been considered somewhat intelligent. I skipped a grade and several of my teachers have said that its likely my IQ Is in the 150’s or 160’s because I’ve been able to actively outthink many of them in debates or in discussions. However, I struggled with common core because before the policy I could solve most equations by just thinking about it in my head and visualizing the equation. I couldn’t do that anymore and had to use a bloated and over complicated process for every little thing and killed my interest in math because it became monotonous and boring, so I just stopped paying attention after a while. Consequently, I would fall in love with the social sciences as a subject that wasn’t over complicated to no end, and I become knowledgeable enough by the fifth grade that I could lead my class in lessons and occasionally teach history class with teacher oversight (no I’m not joking). To summarize, common core made math incredibly over complicated and killed the subject for many kids as a possible interest, by making it to boring or to hard. This was the same for both geniuses and stupid people, so everyone was effected in some way here. It made school even more boring than it already was and made its most important subject uninteresting. Combined No Child Left Behind and Common Core have destroyed American education by making schools so reliant on tests that their efforts to standardize things like equations became complete disasters that further destroyed whatever interest kids could have in subjects. Teach to the test is a common saying among many teachers for this exact reason. They can’t teach for love of the subject anymore, because everything is about test scores. Kids can’t get interested and teachers hate it.
@rebeccalindley153
@rebeccalindley153 9 месяцев назад
They don't even test students anymore in some parts of the country. And, although Bush and Obama did plenty to ruin the schools, they started ruining them before they came along. All the score on the national tests have gone down from the SAT test, to the ACT, and even the written test to get into the military.
@Spingus33
@Spingus33 6 месяцев назад
The worst thing school did for me was tell me that masturbation and porn was "healthy" and "normal". Sucked me into a fapping addiction when i was 12 and it SUCKED. Only recently have I converted from agnosticism to baptist Christianity at the age of 15 and I've been doing good since, but Lord please forgive those who got me into that stuff, it always causes me a bit of anxiety that my past will cause me problems finding a wife and such in the future. God bless yall 🙏 ✝️
@gnas1897
@gnas1897 3 месяца назад
12??? It should be illegal to even mention such things to people this young.
@connecticut511
@connecticut511 9 месяцев назад
i went to public school up until this year. going to catholic school was one of the best choices me and my parents have made. public school isn’t terrible but christian is much better.
@Ebony_Sir_Screw
@Ebony_Sir_Screw 9 месяцев назад
Great video! My son is going to a christian school right now. He finished kindergarten and is now in the first grade. I definitely think he needs some exposure to the outside world as he gets older, but I want him to learn the foundations of Christianity first. I need to do my part at home also.
@christianusacross5084
@christianusacross5084 9 месяцев назад
More Denominations need private high schools like Episcopalian/Anglican Methodist Baptist spread the word! to denominations
@MHall-qd4dn
@MHall-qd4dn 9 месяцев назад
I would like to see an updated video of the same thing but after you have a couple kids school aged kids to see if your view has changed
@strongback6550
@strongback6550 9 месяцев назад
I would argue for Homeschooling because Christians set up foundation for human rights and sciences because it's better to teach your children to do that than whatever the hell Government is pushing on them these days.
@cookechris28
@cookechris28 9 месяцев назад
Isn't that admitting you have no idea what they're taught today, rendering you unqualified to weigh in on the topic? It always confuses me when people give their opinion followed by expressing total ignorance. Like... why bother?
@WastelandArmorer
@WastelandArmorer 9 месяцев назад
Zommer, im working on starting a second channel that will focus on theology/philosophy. I was homeschooled and also made it through and graduated college. If you ever want a collaboration on this topic for maybe some more discussion let me know.
@mr.fizzle6318
@mr.fizzle6318 8 месяцев назад
Through random circumstances, I find myself back on your videos. Even though this video topic is school, the foundation of any human community has to do with what I wrote on a previous video of yours. These next words are my comment on your video titled "3 reasons conservatives ALWAYS lose - KingdomCraft" 6:24 7:27 (on the video "3 reasons conservatives ALWAYS lose - KingdomCraft") This example helped give me something to work with that I hadn't had the ability to phrase before. I'm starting to feel like the phrase "take back the church", especially in the context of conversation you've chosen is missing something important. For all my life, I have been one of the oddballs in my community, even in churches. As I grew, I wanted to truly understand more, whether it be within me or outside of me. In the mix that life is, it wasn't exactly pleasant to come to the realization that the majority of people I interacted with had little-to-no care for who I am or what I find interesting. This stings, especially, when the people in a church are constantly talking about community, love, wisdom, and responsibility. The truth is that there is a venom hidden within the human condition, no matter what your philosophy is. That venom is superficiality, otherwise known as apathy or laziness. The more I've grown, the more I've become familiar with it. The greatest examples were slightly mentioned in your History of Christianity video, with Jesus' mission being easily misinterpreted by people who wished for him to conquer the very tangible Roman Empire instead of seeing that he was freeing them from the slavery within their hearts; even more so emphasized by the fact that Jesus had come at a time where the Jews were not in literal slavery, but social slavery where they bent and broke their own good potential to bargain their meager impulses from the largest human construction the world had ever known. And after Christ ascended, superficiality was continued by the perceived certainty that the Roman mess was surely the end times, and things like the crusades that were certain in saving a specific piece of tangible earth being a God ordained destiny. The tragedy is the human choice to so clearly abandon the chance of reflecting just a bit more to open up to that truth that God sees INTO you, and does not give you quick answers for your earthly cares. Back to 6:24 (on the video "3 reasons conservatives ALWAYS lose - KingdomCraft") What strikes me here is not your focus on a general mechanism of retreating, but instead, asking why that is the case. It doesn't take long to peel back what's to blame. It's the same thing I've struggled against my whole life, to see people resign themselves to be blown away by the wind of their comfort zone. People do all sorts of things because they aren't comfortable. Even when people aren't explicitly uncomfortable, something foreign to their experience can be far too confusing to authentically engage in, unless they are the type of person who naturally wants to explore that unknown. The people in your given example had a specific motive in their hearts. Although they had won a vote within that communal body, they were like so many other people in the world, that they didn't wish to exist in something where they might have to make concerted effort to consider what to do. Consideration takes time, and can be uncomfortable, because God has told us that very thing about doing something right in the eyes of God, and how it either turns a house against each other, or catches their attention and rouses curiosity. The people in that church who retreated, in their hearts, were so disgusted by things they found uncomfortable, that they took the easy way out. The church I currently attend has a slightly different version of this apathy, as people sit in their chairs on Sunday, saying what they think is the right thing when they're socially expected to provide feedback, but otherwise sit and stare in their passively comfortable spectacle of rinsing and repeating a reliable schedule. There's potlucks, and cake, and all the fun little activities you can think of, but the clock is ticking and you won't ever find the majority going into longform discussion about God's word while being vulnerable in how God is shaping them through their individual testimony. That's the thing. Vulnerability. Beyond any narrative a person gives behind what they don't like and why they're doing something, the answer is that they're afraid to think of what will happen after they put themselves out in the open of stating who they really are and how they really feel. There isn't even a beginning of a hope to motivate being vulnerable there; even in a simple exchange of words. I use this illustration to show WHY people are running away, instead of just addressing the symptom that "conservatives have a problem of running away"-- actually going into the heart of why the problem exists. In this way, assuming the term "Christian" means "everyone who goes to church has the same understanding and connection with God" limits the ability to see these kinds of problems. I believe that you should move beyond slogans and describe the direction and tools God gave us to know the detail of what things are, why they function in that way, and articulate what the good potential is that we should chase. Here are some thoughts about what I've experienced that have repeatedly emphasized themselves as being from the wisdom of God, beyond any of our mundane thoughts. I'm thankful that the Lord has been letting me reflect on things I've been seeing, like what true kindness means. It's like how the modern world bastardizes the term "love" by trying to make it synonymous with unrelenting acceptance for everything and anything. True care also means that you want someone to avoid harm and negatively impacting others around them. It's the same reason why we want our friends and family to regularly bathe; it's best for their health, it's best for the people around them, and when it's properly understood it shows that they are mature enough to move beyond their impulsively prideful judgements on what they want in the matter. There's a book called Tactics by Greg Koukl: it has been one of the more influential studies in my mind of how to speak with anyone about a belief they hold. The greatest truth within it is something the author doesn't necessarily recognize in an articulated way: the true way to disarm someone and have a truly productive and vulnerable connection with someone is to be kind in having the most authentic curiosity in getting to know what they believe and the reasons they believe it. This also means that with the amazingly complex individuality we all have within The Body of Christ, one person may not be the exact person to help another break through their prideful understandings, but they can help plant a good seed in their minds. That is true kindness, that is true love, and it can be painfully clear in ability to be articulated. This is why, when you kept voicing this idea of retaking the church, but merely saying the abstracted phrases of "retake institutions", "be as bold as them while not being sinful", and "show people how Christianity can improve society" is not enough to illustrate. I felt disappointed that you didn't take time to reveal the grounded tools of how to do that. Answers are abound, just as much as God is present in every moment. One thought I did find right is thinking of the duality of Conservatism and Progressivism, and where that is true within God's plan. What is a true progressive Christianity, if the opposite of that is conservatism that veers towards stagnation? It is truly allowing God's word to pierce and overwhelm the vulnerable truth about who you are, how you've sinned, and the potential of who you can become because of God's love and strength. It's also the fulfillment of reaching out to others in that same sacrifice of personal comfort. What is The Great Commission about? That same kind of vulnerability in getting to know someone and walk with them as Jesus walked with the disciples. Only through that discernment, responsibility, accountability, and loving motivation can anyone hope to make disciples and build a true community. I am still trying to find ways to break through with the people around me. I am forever thanking God that I have found at least one soul who wishes to be in my presence and share these hopes with me. I pray that we can all be more brave in facing these parts of ourselves, bringing our daily worries to God, and also making the bold request that God continually puts his wisdom within our thoughts instead of thinking of 'waiting on the Lord' as a passive state. - So, to conclude, it doesn't matter what school you put your kid in, or what school your parents put YOU in. What matters is whether you succeed in being authentic and vulnerable with other people, as well as be peacemakers in conversation with anyone. Christ did not build the church so that people can passively sit next to one another for 40 years and fail to know the person next to them for all that time. It's not about get-togethers and worship nights. It's about making as deep and meaningful of connections as we can, and YES, that involves having conversations that are conflicting. Romans chapter 14 is clear about how we should speak to one another about things, be certain in our own mind, and find peace in either agreement or acceptance of the difference between people's non-essential beliefs and habits. Verses 22 and 23 state how not having conviction in your heart about a discipline is a sin. THAT'S LITERALLY CALLING SUPERFICIALITY AND WEAKNESS FOR PEER-PRESSURE SEPARATION FROM GOD. A similar topic, but not necessarily about superficiality, is Matthew 18:15-20. That deals with how believers should deal with a fellow believers sin against God's commandments.
@TheTendermen
@TheTendermen 9 месяцев назад
Answer: No one should send their kid to public school.
@oleksandrbyelyenko435
@oleksandrbyelyenko435 9 месяцев назад
Tell you my experience which is different on many levels. First, most of my school years were spent in Ukraine till I moved to Spain in 2009. The school was private, just a standard, not Chtistian one. The majority denomination of Ukraine is Orthodox, and we had prists coming talking about religion. I remind you, it wasn't Orthodox Christian or else school. Then for some reasons we were going to local church to kiss icons instead of been studying ethics at Ethics class. Later we had a homeclass teacher/ literature teacher who preached that Orthodoxy is paramount even though we had a Lutheran guy as a classmate. Instead of literature we studied how religion and Bible were important in lives of the writers... God forbid show interest in other religions... We had few Satanists from a year above and she was furious. I am sure she would try to expell them if they weren't in their last year. So I came to school as to some extent liberal Christian, maybe not devoted, but believing in God, end moved to another school at age of 14 as Atheist. I am 29 this month and my Atheist views got even stronger though years. But hey, I am not here to fight. You do you. Sadly, from my experience overexposure and this overpreaching actually makes people go away from God. Maybe I wouldn't be Christian but I would still believe in God, but in the end I am an Atheist. And look, once again, for some reason Atheist don't try to convince or fight others over their worldview. But believers: Christian, Muslim, Jews would fight and quiet often kill over religion. (Another turn-off of religion actually)
@soph.b6054
@soph.b6054 8 месяцев назад
I respect your point of view- but a lot of atheists DO in fact try to convince and attack others, mainly on the internet. I can't tell you how many times I've seen one in a comment section randomly harass people with 'God's not real', even if the video has nothing to do with religion. Also I believe Richard Dawkins, a prominent atheist, actively urged his cult to harass and mock religious people in general. Humans, regardless of their worldview, can always find a way to hurt each other. It's not unique to any one group.
@mandiocatostada3859
@mandiocatostada3859 9 месяцев назад
Adults are not free from outside influence, if they weren't, humanity would work way better. We've got to teach our kids theology and philosophy, make em less dumb and learn things by themselves. As a high school student, and having studied in religious schools all my life, i believe it may be strengthening me to study in a highly secularized federal institute. Even in the most strict schools, kids are usually in the same level of naughtyness. But you also can't throw them without arming them first. It is also not right to try hiding the world from them, they might discover first and take actions first.
@brethilnen
@brethilnen 9 месяцев назад
Please don't pillar up, build a temp staircase. I have to listen instead of watch this video because of that!
@intelligent_feller
@intelligent_feller 9 месяцев назад
Do you have a discord server
@oogabooga6000
@oogabooga6000 9 месяцев назад
i wish i was homeschooled
@Interns-Eternal-Empire
@Interns-Eternal-Empire 9 месяцев назад
to answer the question of the title i think it should be Religously controlled schools and home school but i say home school is 1000000000% better then public school ALSO! do a vid in depth on Oriental Orthodox or talk to an Oriental like a Copt cuz they arent very known about in the christian comunity (at least that i have seen)
@captainriker9088
@captainriker9088 9 месяцев назад
I went to a public school in a southern small town. The society around me was generally conservative so it was common to be a "christian." Of course, being in high school all the "christian" people went out and got wasted and kept fornicating with each other. I never got invited to parties because I wasn't in the popular crowd. Though at some point in my time in high school I started engaging with atheist ideas online a lot, and that sent me into a sort of agnostic ideology while still barely clinging on to Christ. I constantly prayed for a sign from God that he was there, but he never gave me a sign. I decided to go to a Church summer camp one year and as I was listening to one of the sermons, it hit me all at once. In an instant, my confusion was wiped away and was replaced with clarity. Then I finally knew who Jesus Christ was. Since then I've been growing in him, and it's not without setbacks. Since I graduated high school and have gone to college, my faith is stronger than ever. It certainly helps when I discuss with the atheists around me and I realize they are extremely theologically illiterate. They hate a religion that they don't even understand. I think that's the most unfortunate thing.
@SethAurelius94
@SethAurelius94 9 месяцев назад
Really depends. Everyone I've known who's gone to catholic school (save my dad) has come out the other end an atheist. Don't see many other denominations doing private school.
@channelname9256
@channelname9256 9 месяцев назад
It's actually kind of funny, of all my teachers, (at public school btw) the only one to say they're Christian is my CHEMISTRY teacher. And I know students taking his class who say Christianity is anti-science.
@GMDGeojumper2011-bl8sx
@GMDGeojumper2011-bl8sx 9 месяцев назад
What is the difference between Presbyterianism and Dutch Reformed?
@ReplyToMeIfUrRetarded
@ReplyToMeIfUrRetarded 9 месяцев назад
Literally nothing. just another one of the gazillions of weird protestant splinter factions.
@yeetoburrito9972
@yeetoburrito9972 9 месяцев назад
Classical education is fantastic!
@hilohilo9539
@hilohilo9539 9 месяцев назад
Latine discant!
@jozzen77
@jozzen77 9 месяцев назад
The friend who evangelized me, in my first year of what you yankees call high school, was the only one who openly went against abortion in the class, got some funny looks by everybody.
@TimothySeng
@TimothySeng 9 месяцев назад
Thank you for the insight
@CaptainEarls
@CaptainEarls 8 месяцев назад
My main spiritual leader at the moment did not want to send her son to public school. But then she felt God telling her to do so anyway, because there is a mission field there. How can we reform the school back to the healthy teachings, if there are no parents or family to be an example? This is in Norway though, I have a feeling it is still less of a problem her than in the US.
@James_Wisniewski
@James_Wisniewski 6 месяцев назад
It's kinda wild to see how radically different our high school experiences were. We're not that far apart; I graduated in 2014. Of course, I also went to public school in Texas, so that helps. I became atheist in high school, but I was very much in the minority. I engaged in all kinds of debauchery that makes me cringe to this day; well, really everything about my high school self makes me cringe, but w/e. Even so, there was some of this stuff creeping in back then, but the environment and culture were much more friendly to traditional values, and I had friends who were at peast ostensibly, if not overtly, Christian, and even my most staunchly atheist friends wouldn't disrespect their religion to their face. Vocally disagree, sure, but not socially ostracize them. Probably a matter of social power, given the atheists and leftists were the minority. Had it been the other way around and the atheists and leftists were the majority, we definitely wouldn't have been as respectful toward them. I don't even want to think about how much things have drifted at my public school in the nearly ten years since I left.
@Picklethatiswild
@Picklethatiswild 9 месяцев назад
I did all forms of schooling. Public, private, homeschool, and some traveling. It helped me expand my perspective and I think out of all of them I preferred traveling. If you can’t do that I suggest homeschooling. My least favorite was probably private school despite being religeous. You can love God and still go to other places!
@hiromilock9269
@hiromilock9269 9 месяцев назад
I was homeschooled my entire life, and have never attended a public school and personally even though i dont agree with everything he said i would to a large extent agree with his thoughts on homeschooling for quality. One of the main reasons my mother decided to homeschool us was so that we could all learn at our own paces, i ended up being very ahead in reading and i enjoyed reading a lot and even now (although my mom was really concerned when 8 yr old me would ask for a middle school text book to read for fun lol) and being in a position where i was able to read things that were on my level for school and not be stuck in a curriculum just because of my age was very helpful because i was average in some subjects and ahead in others so even though she let us focus on what interested us she also made sure that we were taught everything and that we knew it from a Christian perspective. I also think that it is important for kids to have some form of catechizing. I didnt grow up with that and even though my church has taught me a lot about the bible i am finding catechisms to be an extremely helpful tool for me as a teenager now, and wish that i grew up with it. So i do disagree with some of his points i definitely enjoyed hearing about this and i definitely agreed with these parts of this video🙂
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