I've just learned of this channel, seems cool enough (even though I'm anatheist through and through). I'm Ukrainian, and we have Greek Catholic churches here like it's Northern Ireland. - Adûnâi
As a New Yorker I can confirm, people get instantly turned off by any public demonstration of faith, almost by reflex. People basically only want to talk about the world, any time some ideologically grounded belief or belief system comes up, people get very defensive. Secular leftists still reign supreme but the laypeople who couldn't care less about anything don't like being told anything and typically reject any absolute truth with negativity, including the leftism, regardless of how how much they actually agree with the various beliefs. If I had to summarize it, people dislike anyone declaring any absolute truth and want to live in a world where everyone has their truth and minds their own business about it in the general public above all else.
This is the true nature of the Antichrist. It's not one specific thing; the Antichrist is *anything* that isn't Jesus. Literally anything will suffice, as long as it's not Jesus.
I’ve been a new yorker my entire life and i can confidently say we’ve even become significantly less outwardly christian. People are much more quiet about religious topics and i rarely ever see someone other than myself with a cross pendant nowadays. Even on stereotypically conservative long island, most people my age are quick to bash church and christian ideology, while they and the cronies on school boards and town halls continue to spout unabashedly leftist and anti-christian ideology
Also, people don't like being evangelised to or their beliefs questioned, once religious/spiritual talk is brought into conversation it's only natural for people to become defensive. It's important to use discernment when considering to discuss the transcendent.
The west coast is a divided region. Most everything along the ocean is liberal, religiously and politically. However, all three of those coastal states are heavily agricultural and if you get on the other side of the Cascades, the culture changes dramatically. Every one of the states on the west coast is divided. I have lived in Washington and California and seen it first hand.
I learned a good bit of this from a friend of mine, actually! One of my friends at my campus church is a Californian -- lived there most of his life. But he's lived in the more rural areas, and it is almost impossible to distinguish him from the other Midwesterners here (we're in SW Ohio). He talks like us, acts like us, likes Cincy chili, likes our sports teams, and does not want to return to Cali. He told me once that his family lived in those more outskirty areas outside of the costal big cities, and that once you get out of that strip the people there are very similar to people in the Midwest. Honestly a bit eye-opening for me!
Oregonian here, can confirm. Actually my state is a little more complicated than that. The state overall may be liberal, but it's basically just the area between Portland and Eugene that really is liberal, particularly those two cities themselves. Once you get south of Eugene it's more conservative and religious. Also anything east of the Cascades (except for Bend) is also solid red-voting.
I honestly think all Christians should be devout. Jesus says to take up our cross and be faithful and all these kinds of things. He really does expect a lot from us. We shouldn’t only be sharing our faith at church, but everywhere. As I like to say, there is no extremist Christianity. That is just the only Christianity, because Jesus said to love Him with all our heart, all our soul, and with all our strength. He said to preach everywhere. To show our faith everywhere.
As someone who was raised as a "southern" Baptist in the heart of the coalfields of Virginia, I noticed that there really are two or three prevailing mindsets among Baptists. The pastor, who I still keep in touch with now even as someone who isn't really a practicing Christian is maybe one of the greatest men I've ever met. He's been a pillar of the community and has managed to do so much for people through both his guidance of the congregation and his personal friendships with others. He's like an uncle to me. He's preached for decades about the need to help others, the importance of helping others, and the essential nature of connecting personally with God instead of just going through the motions. Meanwhile, I notice a lot of "stereotypical" Baptist churches elsewhere, with a much greater emphasis on evangelizing and much more exclusionary mindset. It really always makes me feel sad to see that very loud voices can stain the denomination sometimes, and because of the very loosely-organized nature of Baptists, there's not a huge amount that can be done except for leaving churches and seeking out more honest congregations.
Yeah I don't like some of the strictness of Baptists and ultra-fundamentalism to the point where you're not following Biblical principles. Some independent churches just make up their own rules on things
Not practicing ? hope the people he helped guide don't find out. That's a good way to misguide people and get called a fake or false teacher. I always wanted to see virgina. Or really any state in the south.
"Alota people think I am rude or abrasive or impatient, but I am just from new york" Truer words have not been spoken for about a year Astoria is amazing
As someone who lives in Western Michigan, thanks for the shoutout. there are more churches in my town than there are gas stations. I'm a part of the Christian Reformed Church (CRCNA). I've been watching a lot of your content lately and even though we don't share a denomination, I've found myself agreeing with the vast majority of what you say. I'm glad your channel is taking off because this world needs more young voices for Christ. I'm 25 and I've been apalled by the loss of the youth from the church, if only they all could hear what you have to say
I’m 23 and I went to West Michigan for college and was surprised how important church is to people out here and how many young people go to church. I came from the metro Detroit area and it feels a lot like how you said the Northeast, where nobody nobody ever talks about going to church.
I also appreciated the shout out 😁. I personally live in Missouri, but I have a lot of family in Michigan who go to NRC/FRC. I wish the area where I live had as many Reformed churches as there are there
I've been following your channel for a few months now, I'm on my last ounce of weed before I quit, 3 weeks into retention, and bought my first bible 2 months ago. Today I'm looking on "Project Reconquista" for a church suited to my views. I'm happy to walk down this path even if right now I feel alone. Thanks for posting the educational videos that you post. EDIT: ive spoken to other catholics and christians pertaining this channel and discovered that the owner is a rabid anti-catholic who brushes up with fascist ideologies. needless to say, redeemed zoomer is apostatic at best, heretical at worst.
Find a church that supports you in your walk and that is theologically sound! Zoomer hopefully has exposed enough of what that means for a church rn. And most important for church community in my opinion is to go with some friends. Really deepens the friendship and helps grow. If you’re from BC, Canada (long shot), I’d love to go with you somewhere! Lastly, don’t forget to spend time in prayer :) god bless!!
I am from California and I can 100% confirm your statements about west coast faith are accurate. My own mother is a "white woman buddhist" exactly as you describe. I have been trying to bring her to Christ for a while now! However I now live in Texas and I think your being much to critical of the churches down here. There is real solid biblically sound faith here like I had never encountered before in my life.
Remember, you cannot bring someone to Christ. Only the Holy Spirit can do that. You are not responsible for her salvation, but always be ready for God to use you for his purposes. Even if it's only that someone has no excuse.
I live in California currently (San Francisco) and i can say that its nothing like this I go to a relatively liberal jesuit church and i have never encountered someone who is a "white woman Buddhist" or otherwise spiritual like he described
I currently live in Texas and the southern attitude probably best describes me, even before I arrived here. I certainly would probably describe the south as the (currently) healthiest region of the country spiritually, but it definitely has its problems and many of them are as described. There's also the whole history of race relations in the south and the Church's part in that, and I think much of the present apostasy in the nation as a whole is a result of God's judgement (in a Romans 1 sense) on that issue in particular. And while many of the visible issues in that vein have been resolved over the past half century, I don't feel there has ever been a proper grieving repentance before God. Just "OK, we stopped. It's over with. Can we talk about how godless the rest of the country is now?". And while I agree on the matter of godlessness in the rest of the nation, that problem will never be solved without God's help, and while the South remains unrepentant, I can't see that help as forthcoming. Ach! Gott vom Himmel, sieh darein!
As a New Englander (New Hampshire) I can say your grid is spot on for our region. I noticed in my own walk here that I speak "Christianese" at my church and with fellow christians but outside of that I speak the language of the people around (secular English and general psychobabble) so I dont impose my worldview on them. It's been increasingly difficult to translate between the two. Your video has inspired me to speak more openly about the faith, thank you.
What you said about the South is so accurate. Many of my friends all go to Nondenominational churches that I know from times I’ve visited are no different from my Baptist church except they never say anything definitive about their theology. I also think the idea of going to a church for the community and not for theology is so accurate. That’s why almost everyone in my city goes to a nondenominational church.
As a Catholic it’s honestly sad seeing people flee from the HISTORICAL main lane Churches. Bad shepherds are dangerous. Praying for Christians of all denominations. Edit: by historical I mean all of them that came from the reformation along with Methodists.
I know what you mean but let's be honest, Baptist and non-denominational (same thing) truly have been around since the beginning. No, it's not the same thing as a single institution, but I promise you it's better biblical teachings than the "mainline" has been teaching for near 100 years.
The North-West can be pretty similar to the North-East, or New England specifically. The evolution is a bit different because where-as the traditions of New England are older, and rooted in more Anglican (Puritan before that) community values, many of those who settled out West were of the Methodist off-shoot of Anglicanism, which gradually became more individualistic because of Methodism's very nature of emphasizing personal conduct. The more you move down the coast the more confusing it will get, as the Southwest was largely influenced by Southern Baptists until the recent influx of Hispanic Catholics to the area.
Hello Zoomer, I'm a Catholic from Germany and also a new subscriber! I've really been enjoying your rants in the Kingdomcraft series. I really connected with what you said in this video about lukewarm church musicians, because I was one of them. I've been part of a church choir since childhood and there are so many people like you describe in the church music sphere. They are frankly excellent, professional-level musicians, and that really does a lot of good for our local churches, it makes our services really vibrant and reverent, to the glory of God. But sadly many of them are musicians first and believers second, if at all. I was the same for a long time too. I never really disbelieved in God, and it never bothered me to participate in church life whenever I did (far too seldom), but all my childhood I was never raised to be a devout follower of Christ, and it really took a while for me to actually realise what I was singing. On the other hand though, I'm very grateful, because singing was what kept me at church for so long. Had I never joined the choir when I was little, I think I might have become an atheist, and that would be a shame. Also, heck yes, Bach made the best church music! We're going to sing his St. John Passion next Lent! I look forward to your coming videos! God bless :)
Oha, noch jemand aus Deutschland ! 👍 Ich finde es gut, dass hier Katholizismus nicht pauschal verurteilt wird, wie es manche Evangelikale tun… bin selber auf dem Papier noch Katholik, treibe mich aber eher in der ev. LK herum… und singe dort in einem Chor…😄 Beste Grüße & Segenswünsche an alle !
I would say that in Canada most places have become apathetic towards religion as a whole, but try to do the whole multicultural acceptance thing. But when it comes to actually letting people practice their religion or if it opposes something political, then they want politics to trump religious values
Yeah the average Canadian is pretty laid back nowadays revolving Christianity, then we bring in hundreds of thousands of Hindus, Sikhs and Muslims to full 180 our chillness lol
As a Canadian I think the only Cristian places are probably the parairies, Beauce, random parts of Ontario and other random parts of Newfoundland and labrador. Also the éducation system litterally Says that Christianity is bad, all priest are pedos ect.. But you have to respect the other religion. Bro at this point this is just State atheism mixed with stupid multiculturalism. (You are also basically rejected by society if you really follow Christianity. And I'm not gonna start talking about the thousand of churches that have a gay flag or stuff like that in front of church. The catholics are also affected by that problem here but not as far as for protestants. The only churches Who are still "Alive" here (that aren't heretic) are baptists and mennonites/Amish (are they heretics?) But There numbers are clearly not as big as the other churches. Also Never saw a methodist or presbyterian church here even if I know they exist here.
i think the reason the churches in california are so good is because the people that don't actually believe don't attend.i know this is out of topic but i have been curious for a while, I intend retiring/working much less in 5 years and keen to know best, how people split their pay, how much of it goes into savings, spendings or investments? I earn up to $180K per year, but nothing to show for it yet
There are a lot of people like this. Im 52 and just getting serious about retirement. Its sad because the time to get serious was 20 years ago or even younger.
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Southern Christian here. One thing I do want to share that will hopefully remove some bias: I attend a baptist church in the morning and a nondenominational one in the evenings. Both of these churches avoid the “when’d’ya get saved” thing you mention. We aren’t fans of it either; rather, they prefer the less checking-a-box approach to salvation that is “do you follow Jesus?” and I think that’s a way better frame of mind. And everyone I talk to rejects prosperity gospel. Stereotypes sometimes exist for a reason. While I do see some of that extremist libertarian down here, most of them aren’t Christians. Or, they say they are but they don’t really take their faith seriously or do much about it. I’ve found most of my regular church-going believers have a much more solid and mature understanding of what the Christian faith is really about.
Thank you! I think this needed to be said. He's still got an odd bent about Southerners it seems. To add on, the nondenom one that I attend sometimes is very much against the pick-and-choose and "come for the doughnuts and coffee" mentalities. Plus, there are plenty of Southerners that don't like the government and want their gun rights, but not in the hokey sense he portrays it. They work at restaurants and offices and schools and wherever. Go to church and love the Lord, want Him to guide the country they love, and so on. They're just average Christian people who are also individualist.
@@thisisEHAM Ikr? It really is the more accurate representation of the majority of the faithful down here, I think. It may be a begrudging "giving unto Caesar", but we still do it lol.
@@Urfavigbo Because one is a smaller family-led church with occasional international missions, etc and the other is your more typical sunday morning service with usual monthly activities, worship band to play in, etc
As a southern I can say we are little more civilized than “I dOnt WaNT nO goVeRNmeNt teLLiNg mE To BuY A DrIVeRs licENsE” but I’m sure some of those people exist
Considering George Wallace, the very conservative Governor of Alabama in the ‘60s, was in favor of things like old age pensions and state health care assistance against the wishes of national conservatives, it seems the Southern mentality isn’t so much “government bad” (although that mentality certainly has gotten popular in the region) but rather “local government good, federal government bad.”
@@lukeporras1288 I'm from Kentucky and that last part describes much of my politics. I think that the federal government is mostly bloated and corrupt, and while state/local governments can also be bloated and corrupt, it's easier to get rid of bad actors in government at those levels. Plus state/local governments are more likely to actually impact your daily life, while the federal government only really impacts your life when it does something monumentally bad
Having lived in california for 19 years, (lived in the midwest for the first 9 years of my life) i think the reason the churches in california are so good is because the people that don't actually believe don't attend.
6:45 So true. I’m a Minnesotan Catholic myself but my Grandma on my father’s side was Lutheran before she became Catholic and most of my Mother’s side is Lutheran (though she is Catholic now). There is a very strong Lutheran presence here and being from a small Midwestern town(where it was mostly a mix of Catholics from Slavic Countries and Lutherans from Finland) I grew up kind of associating Protestantism with the Lutheran Church. And then I lived in the South for a few years and Lutherans were much harder to find. Definitely changed how I viewed that.
As a pk from the south that’s mostly Texas I’m from Mississippi and we only have a few of those mega churches but they are so much smaller and most people in MS are bigger into going to the churches you either grew up in or churches of the same denomination you were born into. The only critic I have about MS is that a lot of young people go as a performance and the fact they look down on all the other denominations
Moving from CA to ID was a big change, my parents were from KS and LA (Louisiana not Los Angeles) so our family's attitude towards religion was a little more traditional than most of our neighbors. We were seen as being "fundamentalist Christians" even though the only thing we really did was pray before meals and go to church on Sundays (which was a megachurch anyways). When we moved, I suddenly realized that we weren't "fundamentalist"- but in fact we weren't fundamentalist ENOUGH. Almost everything I have learned about the Faith has been since I moved here. It's the first time in my life I think I have known true Christians. I now attend an Orthodox church ☦️
Hi RedeemedZoomer! I’m from the south and I wanted to share some thoughts with you. While much of what you say is true, I think a lot of it only applies to midsized to large cities. Smaller towns a lot of the time will have just one or two churches, and that’s how everyone knows eachother. Most of the “non denominational” churches you talk about are either Southern Baptist or Pentacostal. I grew up PCA myself but am currently attending an SBC church for personal reasons. You’ll also find that a lot of the mega churches that seem non denom actually started out as smaller congregations that slowly grew into larger churches that are more youth focused. I’m not going to argue for or against that, that’s just the reality. Really like your channel!
LMAO the part where you said "In the South, the question is 'When did you get saved?'" CRACKED ME UP! I live in the South and nothing more true could be said. Currently, I am Greek Orthodox and am thinking about converting to Anglicanism (don't worry, for theological reasons), but amidst my soul-searching, many Evangelicals, both friends and strangers, tried "winning me over" to be 'saved'. Personally, I have had several theological disagreements with Evangelical Protestantism ever since I started my search for a new church, so what they didn't know was that I knew what I was looking for, and no amount of persuasion with soul food wasn't gonna change my mind. I know there are tons of Evangelical ministries that aren't like that, but a lot of the ones I've met unfortunately were.
I was born and raised in Louisiana and I agree with a lot of stuff you said about the south but I would argue it’s more communal. Where I’m from it’s more about getting together with your family and community to worship more than individual beliefs. It probably ties into other aspects about Cajun and Creole culture but everyone I’ve met in Louisiana, they are mostly religious because of their community. Although I’ve heard the questions like “When did you find god?” and other more personal questions, most questions I’ve heard when talking about religion is “What religion is your family?” Also, a lot of people I’ve talked to about religion still add community even if we’re talking about individualistic beliefs like “Oh, I believe in ____ but my family is ____ so I practice those traditions more.” I’ve also heard the same thing from people in Texas when I lived there. People from Mississippi and Alabama I’ve talked to also share the same sentiment. Most people seem to follow the path of their family or community beliefs rather than individualistic.
I would agree with most of what you say based on growing up Southern Baptist. I’ve even heard of a couple churches directly and openly describe themselves as a business. There is also a very strong link between religion and politics. Of course, all these are generalizations. Anywhere you go, you can find very devout communities living out the Word or mega churches treating Christianity like pleasant way of thinking that makes them money.
I attended First Presbyterian Church of Hollywood for a year and a half before COVID while I went to school at UCLA. I completely echo all of the praise you gave it.
As a southern baptist, while I can agree that a lot of non-denoms agree most closely with southern baptists, there are still big differences like their views on people speaking in tongues (ive had some friends who go to a non denominational church think tongues was a language you could learn). Not to mention non-denominational also has no definition and encompasses a lot of theologically liberal people and universalists who go against a lot of the key interpretations of the sbc.
What you said about baptists in the south is partially true. Where I live in a pretty suburban town with thousands of people and the majority of us go to this one mega southern baptist church. I've been yearning for a more theologically focused mainline church, but I'm kind of afraid to change because I don't want to be separated from all my oldest friends and family.
The "centrality" aspect tracks with high-immigrant va low-immigrant regions (you can't get along with people of different backgrounds if you lead every situation with your religious identity, hence it takes a backseat in culturally diverse regions); and the communal vs individual aspect tracks with climate, especially with the harshness of winters.
I live in San Diego now, and I was born here as well, so I can confirm what you are saying about the West Coast in general, but I've also traveled 27 states and I lived in Kigoma, Tanzania for 5 years; and in Waterford, Ireland for 4 years. It's certainly fascinating to see all of the theological, and cultural diversity within the Church around the world. God is good. May His will be done.
I grew up in central Illinois as Lutheran - LCMS. I've lived in East Tennessee for the last fifteen years, and still go to an LCMS church, but your assessment is definitely right. I've been in small groups at other churches, and they are more independently focused. Even one of our LCMS churches is set up as a Hillsong style church to reach younger people. Both styles can be effective, and others too, but focusing only on one type misses a lot of people.
Hey im a conservative presbyterian in the south. The scots Irish settled the area in the Appalachian chain and the Ozarks. A lot of that is becoming reformed.
Well, the Baptists have dominated the region for a very long time. Ever since Shubeal Stearns came to North Carolina in the mid 1700's, the Baptists have been rapidly growing throughout the south. It is true that most of the original settlers were Presbyterian or Episcopalian (depending on where you're talking about), but that decline in those denominations did not change mainly because of the civil war. Presbyterians in particular lost their footing on the frontier early on (in the early 1800s), as they did not have enough ministers to send to the newly organized congregations in states like Tennessee.
It's so interesting hearing this because I'm in the west and most of the religious people here are communal and devotional. But then again I'm on Utah.
“A lot of people think I’m rude, or abrasive, or impatient… but I’m just from New York.” As a New Yorker (who doesn’t live there anymore) thats pretty accurate lol.
Dude, you're one of the most polite in the interviews you've taken part in. Jay Dyer interrupted and spoke over you so many times. Was so condescending as well. You carried a positive and patient spirit. Kyle has also been immature towards you as well.
As someone likewise from the NE who went to undergrad in Dixie, the "I'm not denominational - I'm just Christian" people drove me up a wall! Especially when they began speaking of these obscure modernist terms as if they're ecumenical (but act agast if you mention the idea of the Sacraments to them). I completely agree with the point @17:15ish, claiming "nondenominational" is inviting theological ignorance- everyone has an extraBiblical tradition & ignoring that helps no one.
Born & raised in Newburgh, NY. I am now a NY refugee living in South Carolina. The former NY governor said there was "no place for (people like me ) in NY". Not all of "us" have a shot gun and tractor so lose the NY "superior"attitude :) Seriously, I love your channel...
So I grew up in rural central California. People always said it was culturally like you took a slice out of Texas and laid it down between the mountains and the coast of California. In terms of your analysis here it perfectly fits your view of the south. Very individualistic, baptistic and devout.
I’m from Massachusetts and the grid is accurate. In Massachusetts we have a very high Catholic population (due to Irish and Italians) but for most people it’s simply a cultural tradition. People will get baptized, receive first communion, and get confirmed but after that people will never step into a church again. Unless it’s for a wedding, funeral, or one of those sacraments I mentioned before for their children/family.
@redeemedzoomer Good video, like always. I've yet to hear you talk about the most famous Presbyterian church in the US, or used to be, it's now gone, the Crystal Cathedral and Robert Schuller. Maybe do a video about famous Churches and Pastors from your Denomination and your opinion about them. 😃👍🏼
Pennsylvania is an odd case; in the Philadelphia area we definitely fit your definition of the Northeast mindset. But travel just an hour or so outside the city and you start to get a much more midwestern mindset. (With maybe a touch of the southern mindset sprinkled in)
I moved to NY from the Midwest, and that makes so much sense. I came from somewhere that I pretty much knew everyone’s religion and I even had coworkers tell every customer “have a blessed day” to a place where people gave me an initial side-eye because my husband is a pastor and I go to church with him.
Hey I want to possibly add a denomination*. I am a "pentecostal" Christian, in which I believe in the speaking of tounges as a gift of the holy spirit. But a majority of my beliefs are almost identical to Baptists. We are alot of ex soviet union individuals. We are actually pretty traditional, compared to other Baptists and non denominational churches. Kinda similar to orthodox but not really, because orthodox influenced the soviet union so we still have some of that. I want to invite you to a service, if not maybe just digital service here on RU-vid.
I'm in the Southeast, and I'm actually more of a devout Lutheran, but my Mom's parents, who come from Michigan, think I do too much of the religion thing- I profoundly disagree with them since I was once in the occult (and have thus actually encountered demons), and, since I've been watching Fighting for the Faith ( www.youtube.com/@Fighting4theFaith ) I'm also now trying to shake off the false doctrinal influences from my days in Evangelicalism (think weird charismatic doctrines like decreeing and declaring that's supposedly a form of prayer but isn't actually Biblical prayer, as well as other doctrines taught by the likes of those prosperity gospel preachers like Kenneth Copeland that you rightly called "blasphemers" in your video). Anyhow, I think I'm kind of on the borderline between Individualistic and the Communal in terms of my approach...
About the thumbnail- it’s just like a New Yorker to put PA in the south, Pennsylvania is not in the south, it is above the mason dixon line and is almost touching the east coast. As someone born in PA and went to school in Arkansas, I know what the north east and what the south is. So different. Triggered!! Haha- great video
Can we take a moment to apreciate the map of mainline churches in the description? I live in a very rural area so I didnt expect there to be anything near me, but there are 5-6 churches within an hour of where I live and much more if I want to go a little further
I’m currently a college student in Texas. I was raised in an SBC church, but my grandfather was raised Presbyterian and our pastor was always Reformed Baptist. I have found that because each Church is governed individually there is a wider range. A lot of SBC churches will agree with Presbyterian on quite a few things besides baptism. There is a big emphasis on community within the church, but each individual has to have their own belief to be part on it. Also, I have only seen mega churches in college towns or large metropolitan areas so I would say that there are probably more small to midsize churches where there aren’t any pulls besides the teaching and the community there.
as a Non-denominational (actually baptist but non-denominational on paper), is there anyway I should help with the Reconquista? or should i stay out of it?
6:49 A man from Kansas (he lives in Hungary now) came to hold a devotion at my christian school yesterday. I am not kidding, his granddad was a Lutheran pastor, all of his granddad's brothers were Lutheran pastors, and all of his grandma's 5 brothers (on the same side) were Lutheran pastors. I immediately thought of this video 😂
I’m from NY as well and instantly recognized your accent on your videos lol. And yeah if you can see the city from your high school you’re definitely downstate. I’m from Albany and we consider everything south of Poughkeepsie downstate 😂
I was born in NJ, and moved to NC. Being Catholic was difficult because many people, mainly baptists, spoke to me like I was a satanist. It took me a long time to realize they either didn’t know my religion at all or heard misinformation about us. I went to a UMC for scouts, and I really enjoyed their community and through discussions with their members I realized it had a lot to do with their aversion towards a religion that acted similar to a world government. Nearly all of them referred to indulgences, Mary worship, or the authority of the church. I love the south now, but back then I really felt alienated. God bless that Methodist, no longer UMC, church I went to scouts in. Without them I would’ve thought Protestants were filled with ire or blasphemous extremists.
I am from the South and we usually go to the same church that family and friends attend. I attend a Pentacostal-style church but most of our members are more Charles Spurgeon, J.R. Miller(even though he was a Presbytarian), or Oswald Chambers type Baptist in our beliefs. I am a member of my church because the young lady that I married 47 years ago, and her family and friends attended this church. I grew up in the Methodist church circa the 1960s, but never understood the rituals, as they were never explained to me, I did enjoy and learned much in the Sunday School. I also enjoy attending many Independant Baptist Churches ( my first cousin is a pastor in an IBC).
Idaho would definitely fall into the midwest by your classifications. We're always getting lumped in with the west, but really it's only the coast up to like 100 miles inland that behaves in the typical fashion associated with the west.
I'm in the forgotten region of the inter-mountain west, and there's a different dynamic here as well. We would be on the individualistic side of your graph, but right in the middle of devout vs secular. The culture generally is socially/politically conservative and people are friendly to Christianity, but few of them actually practice it. The big exception would be Utah and surrounding areas dominated by Mormonism, where the dynamic would be devout/communal attitude you ascribe to the Midwest.
I’m a southerner, but I practice Christianity like a midwesterner (both of my parents are from Ohio)… what do you usually say when baptists ask “when were you saved”? I feel like it would sound really snarky to answer with “2000 years ago”
Unrelated but what do you think the divide between Upstate and Downstate is? Most people I talk to Upstate say Poughkeepsie, since your closer to the city what’s your line?
I’m listening to this on 1.5 speed and the beginning where you go over where you’re from with the New York accent made me laugh so hard! “Then when I became a Christian” 😂 God bless you brother!
As someone from the northeast (Philadelphia area to be exact) you're correct on that. When I was in Grade School I was catholic, my relatives were catholic too, and i even attend CCD every Wednesday night, but when my parents separated when i was a teen, my mom decide to raise me non-denominational christian instead. But as i got older, aside from my grandparents and couple aunts, most of my relatives were Catholic-in-name-only. They didn't really act or believe like a true christian should be or even attend church, only on Christmas, Easter, and special occasions. It's like this i feel that my lifestyle would be more suited to states like Michigan or Florida.
I grew up Presbyterian and regained my relationship with Christ 5 years ago when God relived me of my alcoholism , I am in the CMA now and i am a student at Moody Bible Institute. Do a video mentioning the CMA ! Thanks for all you do, may the Lord bless you
I feel like it makes sense to be very individualistic - be devout or not (although being devout is preferred) - because even though we are part of the Kingdom of God, we have freewill. We can't force people to be in the kingdom so baptizing them at birth isn't right. Why would I not let them have their choice?
@@memeboi6017 because you were never given the choice. Freewill is a gift that God gave us, and to truly understand that gift, you also need to be given that choice.
Baptism is meant to wash away original sin It wasdone in birth as insurance because back then Infant mortality was super high. Still is in a lot of third world nations. This is why we have the sacrament of confirmation
3:58 This grid is an interesting way to look at things to me because like. . I'm from the Northeast, barely ever go anywhere else. I have been to the South but not for long stretches of time, and mostly I stick to my family However, I never really felt like I vibed all that well with how we practice our faith. It does seem to match up with this grid pretty well, but it seems like personally I'd fit more with the West
Can anybody help me understand about the world mission Society church of god? I’m in touch with a member and he’s trying to convert me and I’m also trying to do research talking about how it’s false and I kinda need guidance
Lutheran Oregonian here, you nailed the west dead on. however, like another poster, said west of the cascades varies greatly from the east of the Cascades. Two things to point out. One, as a Christian, it is hard living in a community where the majority of people do not want anything to do with Christianity. Two, on the bright side, what an opportunity it is to be a beacon of light in a spiritually dead area.
Pretty much what you said about the west coast is pretty accurate. Though, I have to say, at least in my area (east bay), there are quite a bit of catholics. In my city alone we have two catholic churches that I know of, and there are some others in other cities and such. I am a pretty new convert, however, so I don't have much to base it off of (whenever I would go to church before I converted I never paid attention to the area or the seminars themselves), but from what I remember the seminars weren't very liberal, and there are actually a fair few people at my school who are Christian, most likely catholic as it is a heavily hispanic/latino area. So, yeah, basically what I'm trying to say is that Catholicism is doing surprisingly well in the bay area, at least I think lol. Being a new convert and all I don't have much experience to go off of.
From what I’ve seen as a Southern Baptist, a lot of non-denominational churches are moderate or leftist baptist churches who are trying to separate themselves from the politically conservative stigma surrounding the baptist democracy
This was very interesting to here as a West Coast Non-denominational Christian and I want to provide my insight since I think it was Lacking a little bit here. I would say that I mostly aligned with Baptist principles, but the reason I think our church doesn't call ourselves. Baptist is because were culturally very different. We're Southern Californian through and through and we don't necessarily care that much about the differences between denominations because at the end of the day we believe that anyone who believes in the fundamental doctrines of Christianity is saved: Including Catholics, orthodox, all the mainline, protestants, any branch that subscribes to these doctrines. We are a very young church and personal relationships with God are everything to us. We believe that community is necessary to experience the fullness of Christianity, however. We're also very evangelical. We believe that recruiting new members to our church in the faith at large is one of Our biggest responsibilities as Christians. We're also very individualistic when it comes to Christianity. You'll never be asked what your parents believe but rather what you believe and how you're doing in your faith I'm probably the most Family- reliant christians in my youth group and my Dad is a born again Christian, who was born Catholic but doesn't believe he received salvation until he made a commitment to Christ and was baptized at 33. Our church is the farthest thing from a Megachurch even though we may share some Megachurch theology. We're a small church, we don't have a building, and there aren't that many pyrotechnics on stage lol we're also very theologically involved probably more so than most nondenominational Churches in the area, but we're also very practical. Sometimes a little too practical. As a very intellectual person, I kind of wish we engage with the theology Of Christianity, as well as Teleology and some other Christian philosophy although I understand how beneficial the practical approach is especially for the new believers which we tend to attract. Christianity In the West Coast is very focused on novelty and growth. We kind of had to build it from the ground up here after the culture became so secularized And that shows in pretty much every aspect of how we think worship and operate.
As a Minnesotan and Baptist, I disagree with your assessment that the reason for the different approaches to faith is mostly regional and not denominational. My friends in church are devout believers, but predictably, somewhat individualistic since we're Baptist.
Yeah I can confirm on the west coast generally speaking people are very secular and individualistic about religion. It’s very much a “do whatever you need to for your religion but don’t bother me about it” attitude
My parents grew up on Long Island. My mom went to a Bible Church and my dad was raised Catholic, but they hate the idea of denominations because they only cause arguments and fracture the Body of Christ.
As a Coloradoan, I think your assessment of the west as experimental is accurate. What I’ve observed for those who are Christians here is that they tend to be nondenominational. We do still have historic churches in some areas, but overwhelmingly it is nondenominational Christianity that is most popular here. The conservative areas of Colorado are a bit like a more relaxed version of the south. It’s southern individualism, paired with the experimentalism of the west. Contemporary worship is quite popular here, and if someone is very traditional, they’re likely to be a Mormon.
As a southerner (Mississippi) you are absolutely correct with your understanding of southern Christianity…. Thankfully I left the traditional baptist denomination and jumped ship to Presbyterian after coming to reformed theology
I think there’s some intersection between the south and midwest. I’ve definitely had some “communal faith” communities in Texas as well as the individualistic. You’re probably right that if there’s a skew, it’s toward individuals in the south.
Very good but on the progressive axis I'd probably put "apostasy" where you put "heresy" since for sure several of the lines mentioned before that were already outright heresy (which is merely definitively incorrect doctrine of faith) whereas apostasy tends to refer to outright denial of the basic tenets of the faith (the trinity, resurrection, divinity of the Son as you listed etc.)
I know you’ve been having discussions with Kyle and Jay, but have you also thought about reaching out to Trent Horn and Erick Ybarra from the Catholic side? They’re wonderful guys to have deep discussions with.
Don't forget that the West has the whole LDS thing going on. I'm a Utah Latter-day Saint who doesn't have much experience with mainstream Christianity back there, but I'm sure there's some sort of factor with the West's religious attitude.
