thank you for the video. I had a similar decision and I did buy a 1976, 930, the third car ever sold in the US. Was able to also inspect the car and anticipated an engine rebuild, fortunately, transmission problems were not a major issue. So, as you mentioned putting $30-$40,000 into these cars right away is not uncommon. By the way, in 1974 through 77. These cars had the whale tail. They were first sold in the US in 1976. In 78, Porsche placed an intercooler which required a higher deck lid, and then they changed it to a tea tray, which actually pushed more air into the engine compartment. Thanks, Phil from MINNESOTA.
I owned an 82 for 8 years and almost right away the Permatune ignition became intermittent. I ended up installing a MSD 6AL and it ran great after that. Later the turn signals were intermittent and some of the lights were sketchy. I removed all the fuses, cleaned the copper contacts and also tightened the wire screws. That seemed to fix everything. Fun car but it needed a 5 speed from the beginning.
Your video made me smile. We have much in common. I have a 997.2 GTS, a 2004 Boxser, and a black turbo look 1991 964. I've just completed a refreshing of my 964 which cost me 40K. I purchased it for 25K, 20 years ago, it was time for some TLC. As a physician I didn't have the time nor skills to do the work myself so I spent 20K on parts and approx. the same on labor. I can't imagine the cost if I had to do turbo work and a complete engine rebuild. I purchased the car for its looks and non turbo cost of maintenance over the years. Still love it has be worth every penny. Advice If you really like the car and can afford to buy it, buy and hold it until you can sort it the way you choose, you won't lose money.
Yes! Sounds like you've got a great little collection. Thanks for watching. This car is almost finished being rebuild and my plan is to buy it if I can make it happen.
So this is one of the better videos weighing the pros and cons of buying on of these. I did my own 3.2 rebuild last year and I think your mechanic was spot on on the actual costs of the engine rebuild. Many people seem to throw out a small number and then the flood gates open do throwing out that number was very honest. At around 100K, many start to show lots of top end wear and the crack prone divilar head studs, which the 930 has 24 of them. The reality (as you know) once the engine is out and "you''re in there" you might as well just do it and refresh the engine. Thinks like a new clutch, fuel lines (chassis too), sensors, fasteners, machine work, valves, valve springs, fuel pressure regulators, injectors, timing chains, timing chain gears, oil pump, etc are all expensive, quality parts and add up very fast. Leaks can come from maybe 50 places on these engines so if it's out do it right. Not for the faint hearted and if the cost of the car is already high it's better suited to a good DIY person to keep the outlay for a driver grade car under it's book value. If your friend likes his car and wants to keep driving at heast he knows his engine is reset to 0 miles and can expect 30 moe years out of it.
Right call. I think this one’s already crossed the line into restoration territory. It would definitely be a great project, but needs to be bought at an appropriate price. It’s a safe bet it needs suspension bushings, fuel lines, oil lines, etc. A respray and proper wheels would also be a must, but again the car needs to be priced as a project.
Thanks! The good news is my buddy is actually doing a full rebuild on the trans and motor so I can do an update video to see the difference. Thanks for watching!
Well that escalated fast, from an oil leak to a full rebuild. I bet many actually go for it too.. This is how this mechanic has been able to stay in business for so long. Take notes 📝
This is a highly respected mechanic that we have known and trusted for 30 years. My friend ended up not selling it and did the rebuild which was needed (recommended/confirmed by 3 different mechanics). The rebuild looks great and should be back in the car by the end of the year.
@@docderwoodhe is in about $60,000 including engine rebuilt, trans rebuild, clutch rebuild, and a ton of electrical problems from the previous owner.The electrical was a shit show!
Ever watch "This Old House"? It's the same thing...just on wheels with more depreciation (well, we tell ourselves that won't be the case with *this* car) !@@dr.kylestanley
I good rebuild if just breaking it all the way down and not changing Displacement or upgrading turbos would be max 18ish. The 30-40 would be if you had to replace pistons, rods, ignition system upgrade, head work, light weight bits like rods etc, cylinder heads, turbo, inter cooler type build. For basic break down, inspection, polishing crank, rings, seals, plugs, fluids, new fuel injectors, wires and tuning type build max 18-20k max. Trans issue most likely needs rebuild 8-10K.
What I prefer about my 3.2 is that the gear ratios are better so you actually get to row through the gears even at relatively low speeds. In the turbo 4 speed, I could go 80 in second gear!
As valuable , rare and sought after as all 911's have become you would be crazy not to buy the car if you can afford it . The value of any 911 is just going to continue to go up .
at the time of this video, i could afford the car but not the $50k additional that it needed. However, I still know the owner and maybe I'll buy it later in life.
I chose to spend my money on a car that was fully sorted and I'm so happy I did. This car will be great when it is fully done with the engine rebuild and trans in a month or so. I'm excited to drive it again at that point.
First off, the car is damn near 40yrs old wtf do you expect? If you’re not mechanically inclined you have no business with a 930 You’re overly critical, stick to newer cars
You think every person who owns a vintage 930 needs to be able to do a full engine out turbo rebuild? Interesting. I have 2 old 911s and am in the process of having another one built. There is a difference between being overly critical and being realistic. I know vintage 911s and I know what the service costs and I know how much I can afford. On this car, I couldn't afford the sticker price AND a rebuild. Thanks for watching