I own a Pro 100 printer that has Precision Colors carts but I also own a older Epson R260 photo printer that I've had for years with a CIS from Hotzone 360. The R260 has been a absolute workhorse. For lower rez photos and general printing the CIS on the R260 has worked out very well. I owned a Epson R1800 in the past with a CIS from the same company and had problems constantly.
I found a system from inkproducts that is specifically for canon. It's is $119 but it's a pretty professional looking setup with clips and clamps to make closing the lid possible and keep the hoses snug so they won't be in the way. Do you thing that would prevent the overheating you mentioned?
Great video very informative, I have a question. I own an epson workforce 840. it supports 126, 127, and DuraBrite Ultra ink. I also own a CISS, would k3 ink work in the CISS without problems or is there another ink you can recommend?
All CISS chips are manufactured by the same company, but sold by different brands. Cobra ink, Inkjetcarts, BrillaInk, Ebay (generic CISS for CS-7610 etc) they're all the same company. The firmware on all printers in 2020 (technically 2017 for every workforce and HP etc..) have all been matched to the last firmware. If there's ever a firmware update, it will still work because the cartridges for the old printers are no longer updated. Enjoy your CISS folks. If you have trouble with a color being recognized, (like real problematic), the CISS chip is toast, grab a new one or get a refund from your seller. Get another, because once you get a working one, that's it.. As a hobbyist, 4oz bottles last me a little over a year, I often times have to toss the old ink because it can cause clogs. I also buy a new CISS for $23 on ebay as a refresher. Don't forget too, you CAN buy a new head if you end up with a fatal clog. Just make sure everything's dry before swapping the head out. If you're in a business, you know the importance of setting aside cash for replacement parts, do that.
Hi, I am thinking of buying an Epson ET 7750 Eco A3 printer. I currently have a Canon Pro 1 but don’t use it as much as I should so the cost is prohibitive. I accept prints won’t be as good on the ET 7750 even with profiling and I will accept this compromise, however I would really appreciate your valuable opinion on this printer. Thanks in advance.
Not what I would call a good choice. The dye inks are very low quality even though they would officially OEM. thesebprinters are intended for quick throw away prints of flyers and handouts like one would make for office meetings and such. Not for photos of any value. By the way not using your PRO1 will cause a co edition where the printhead will no longer be able to comunicate with the printer. B200. So not using it often as intended will cost you more in the end that actually using it often.
Hi. With a CISS printer, could one just buy the branded ink bottles and interchange brands (for example, if you have and HP 915, buy the black ink bottle from Brother or Canon and vice versa)? Or are generic, non branded ink bottles good enough (not printing any pro photos or things that are for pro)? Thanks.
@@cheo1949 Thanks for the reply. These are the only ones available in my area (and within budget, printing just documents at the moment). Which would you pick/suggest as the best design/performance from these 3 (for a Canon MP287 and an HP 915): shopee.ph/Yasen-CISS-Empty-Tank-100ml-i.128307891.2082100245 shopee.ph/DiY-CiSS-4-Colors-without-ink-i.27916371.2302887472 shopee.ph/diy-ciss-kit-4-colors-for-canon-printer-hp-printer-white-cover-100ml-with-controller-valve-i.82765348.1995953377 Thanks in advance.
Hola José compré una Epson XP 960 me recomiendas usar las tintas originales de la Epson l1800 o hay alguna genérica que de la misma calidad o mejor calidad saludos.
At this point, consider an Ecotank printer instead. Epson probably saw the CIS systems and thought, hey, we can do that better! A lot less fiddly, at least.
Hi, Jose, I have an Epson Artisan 725 and an Epson RX 595. both were gifts from my brother after he got new equipment or had problems with these (most likely a cartridge expiring). However they haven't been used in about 3 years. My questions are 1). do printers go bad when having set for a while? 2). should I just buy something current rather than spend money on either of these? 3) which one do you think gives the best image quality for printing photographs. If I wasn't so impressed with your depth of knowledge I woudn't bother you with those 3 questions. Thanks man!! Great videos and I will be watching more right now.
Ok here are my quick answers to #1 Yes #2 Yes, #3 if you are looking for top Quality photo prints, Canon PRO100/PRO10/ PRO1 or EPSON P600/PRO400/P800 These cover the lower to medium high price and level. All can print 13" wide. The P800 prints to 17" and up to 129" in length. All produce top quality results assuming the proper work flow and color management. You will also have to consider monitor calibration equipment and learning curve, custom.profiles which I can help with and provide.
I used to refill ink cartridges in my canon mp970 (with refill inks from Walmart), only to find out that photos printed with non-oem inks will not last very long. Colors would fade or change. Since then, I only use genuine supplies. Now, that I got Pro-100, I start to wonder if I should get a CIS, and which brand ink is as good as oem?
Depends on the CIS. There is only one semi good one from inkproducts. Why not refill your own carts. The best inks are currently from precisioncolors but NONE will last as OEM.
Hi Jose. Thank you for the great video. I know it's not a photo printer, but I bought my wife an EPSON WF-7720 for Christmas. Just 6 photo prints and magenta is the lowest, at only 30% left. I glossed over CIS before. I had an EPSON WF-7520 at work. I can go either way, refillable or CIS. Who or which outlet would you recommend for CIS or refillable Carts and inks for the Epson 7720?
I opted for some 'remanufactured' carts from Amazon for the immediate now. Though it was worth trying out. I'll use them for graphic arts, not so much photo. Plan is to use 13" x 19" graphic and technical prints. I'll see how they do. I think Im leaning toward refillable carts from one of your recommended sources, when photo use increases.
Some Canon CISS come with thick, soft silicone pads to form a better seal in the cartridge slots. I don't know if they'll stand the test of time, but so far it's working fine. It's a pretty old printer though, so more modern printers may be more susceptible to this problem.
The dampers or carts often do not CLICK securely in place. That constant lateral forces developed during printing WILL eventually cause that seal between the carts and the print head contacts to fail!
I have a couple of OEM cartridge sets that I used to refill, before getting the CISS. I had flushed them through with de-ionised water, to avoid the ink drying in the cartridges. I may go back to them then! I had heard about problems with Canon printers using CISS, but thought the pliant silicone had solved that problem.
Wow, i love how thorough you are. I have a question if/ when you have a minute- I'm an artist and want to print my own prints. Is it better to get a printer with ink tanks, or one that can support ink tanks, because I will be doing comic cons and making a ton of prints, or is it better to refill your tanks. I'm looking at the canon pro 100. I really don't want to spend a ton of time dealing with printer ink. Any advice is very welcomed. Thank you
Please.excuse me but it sounds like you are not very experienced with printing photos of printers in general? If I am.wrong I apologize. The PRO-100 is great on glossy. But the carts are small and you will be constantly changing them at $15 a pop. Refilling requires modification and then the refilling process which must be done perfectly or it will fail. A printer with large volume carts would allow continual printing without constant cart change. The Epson P800 or Canon PRO-1000 will print up to 17" width but will set you back over $1300 each. If you are selling your art prints you should,.not just use original inks and good paper. Then comes the leading curve. Monitor calibratorn, Paper.profiles, and more. Get the idea? It is not a casual.undertaking.
Hello, thanks again for you channel, I have an Epson Artisan 835 and I'm learning from you that if I would installa a CISS on my printer I should raise the tanks almost 5 inches, but if other say that you should never raise the tanks higher than the surface where the printer is because otherwise your risk to flood the cartridges and inks will spills from the printhead_ Can you explain more about your experience with your Artisan 710 ?
You raise it to whatever level creates NEUTRAL ink flow. Too low and the ink flows back from the carts. Too high and you flood the printer. Perfect is when a little air bubble does not move in the ink lines. I went through hell balancing my Artisan 720.
@@cheo1949 thanks for you answer, recently I seen these One Way valve/ damper that seems can be added to the CISS systems, what do you think ? Have you ever heard or used them ? ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-0apOcNGrbXY.html
Hi Jose, thanks so much for your effort to make this videos, it really helps a lot ppl starting out printing. I ve just bought a an epson stylus 1400, did not even open it, can you recommend a good paper that does not brake the bank? i am considering printing 10-30 A3 a month, should i go for CISS with OEM, CISS with third party, or just third party cartridges, maybe refillable? Thanks for the time to answer me. If i could book 1h consultancy with you i ll do that, whould save me hours of internet research for a few answers you can give based on your extensive testing and experience with inkjet printing...
Actually I do offer one on one one consultation by phone. Go tomthis link and go to the bottom and there you book a one bour session at a time and date convenient to you canonpixmapro1.homestead.com/tHIS-IS-YOUR-PLACE-FOR-CANON-PRO-1-REFILLING-SUPPLIES.html
Hi Sir Jose, if i convert my printer to CIS would it be possible to go back to non CIS or traditional cartrige if i desired not to use the CIS anymore?
Hello Can you tell me resetting CISS continuous ink system procedure for Canon Pixma MG3680 after refilling ink. Both two lights black&color are flashing now. I refilled ink but still flashing. Thank you in advance
First of all using a CISS on any Canon Prienter is not a good idea. Secondlybi only print with professional level photo printers so I wohld have zero experience to help you with this. But as far as I know a channel must be declared fully empty by the chip on the ciss and then you go through what would be a cart change operation and the level for that channel should reset to full.
Hi, thanks for the great video - very useful info! We not long bought a n Epson XP-970 with 6 Ink Claria HD cartridges and want to install a CIS. Do you know roughly how much it costs to print a full colour A3 photo at 100% coverage? We only find 5% statistics based on 5% coverage and i'm not sure if that includes all 6 inks. Only need an estimate, so we can use it to estimate printing costs on a projects. Appreciate any info, thanks again :)
CISS units for canon printers are NOT a good choice. The Carts do not actually insert into the print head like EPSON! They just contact and that CONTACT can become loose and cause leaks when you introduce a CISS as it introduces lots of lateral forces on the carts connected to the ink ribbon. When they work they work but mostly they do not.
@@cheo1949 thanks, that's why I bought an Epson because I heard the CISS units for them are better. At this stage I'm trying to predict my ink costs, so I can allocate printing costs on projects. Just need a rough estimate on printing a sheet of a3 with 80 to 90% coverage. Thanks again
Hey Jose, great videos!! Im just curious..... What high resolution photo printer would you recommend for using a CIS system to print 13x19 prints, or at least 11x14 prints? I have a Canon Pro 10 and a Pro 100, but I don't want to use a CIS system and screw either one of them up. Can you suggest a CIS system for either of those without messing them up? If not, I will buy another printer. Thanks!!
Not a good idea any way you look at it. Do not use ANY type of CISS or Compatible cart on your PRO-100/10. CANON Carts for those printers only contact the print head inlets Passively!!! the lateral forces imparted by a CISS will almost immediately cause a break of that contact and leak and cause ink starvation in the worst case, Which will lead to head failure. So do not believe anything you see or read on these things for canon printers. They are so / so for EPSONs printers because their carts connected securely. Not so on the models you mention. Trust me!!!
All photo printers are So called high resolution. There is no such thing as a low resolution photo printer so that term means nothing now a day. The only current Epson printer that might be able to use a ciss successfully is maybe one of the Artisan 1430 model. Older Rxxxx series Epsons can also use them. None of the new Sure Color models can very well. But why do you want a ciss anyway? Other than the convenience of not having to change carts, there is really nothing I find great about a ciss. They are very finicky to get them perfectly balanced so they even flow well. You already have two fantastic printers that are at they best running on they own OEM carts. I hope you at running them on OEM carts even if you refill! As you can probably tell, I am her anti CISS. I use one on my very old Epson 1400 onlky to overcoat pigment prints with gloss optimizer when needed. Nothing else.
Ok, with that said.... Im not stuck on CISS systems at all, I just thought it would be easier. I can use refillable carts. Let's talk REFILLABLE carts. I print a lot with my Pro 10 and Im tired of giving Canon 100's and 100's of dollars for ink. If I wanted to refill my Pro 10 OEM Canon carts, what process/inks would you suggest? Sorry to keep bothering you with this. I just want to do it right and not screw up my printer.
Not to cut your short but all the answers to all those questions are currently in this channel. I cover the PRO 100 and the PRO 10. Precisioncolors is the place to get the proven supplies you will need to achieve perfect refilling on both printers. I have multiple videos covering refilling and everything that has to be done to achieve it. You need to look tough my 30 playlists. They are are all categorized by subject. Dive in. Refilling your OEM carts IS the only way to go. Remember,,, no compatibles. Only OEM carts!!!
I have not tested any CISS for PRO-100. I was going to do so and offered to do so to the company but they did not want to provide me with a test unit and I did not want o spend $149 at the time only to find out it would not fill the needs and quality I expected. Now it is on sale as apparently it is not selling well. www.inkproducts.com/ink-store441/product.php?productid=1646&page=1
It actual has good features and seems to be well designed to the actual printer unlike other CISS which are truly generic in design and you end up having to figure out how to install it so it actually works even half way.
It might be the internal.waste ink pads being full. Use the WIC RESET TOOL to check whether that is the problem. Younwoule need an actual error code number to actually pin point what the actual problem may be.
@@cheo1949 Thank you for the wic reset tool info and it worked to get rid of the blinking lights and had a perfect nozzle check and seem to print ok for about 4 prints 13x19, then I did another nozzle check and the black wasn't showing up and I'm doing a navy red sublimation job right now. We did the paper towel windex cleaning last night and this morning it's starting to see more black. Anyway, at $170 a color, this system is very expensive to use. Do you recommend a ciss system and inks that would work on our system?
@@cheo1949 no I have always been a HP person. I hear people knock HP but it has always been my favorite. Thank you for the the information I really appreciate it.
The reason is because Canon and Epson are the only current brand of true pro photo printers. HP no longer makes home type photo printers. They only are offering office type printers. Sure you can print photos with them they just will not be as good as the ones you would get from a dedicated photo printer
If they are available for that mode which is unfamiliar to me, and you can get it to work consistently, they can be convenient to use but only if you tend to print tons!
The Hydraulics or the way that liquid is fed or transfered to the lines is different I don't know whether one is better than the other. I have been told that the piano type are better but then again I hear from other people in the know that there is no difference. They both take a certain amount of calibration if you will, meaning the position or height that you set the ciss unit at that is really the most important factor.
@@cheo1949 Thank You soo Much I had a friend tell me that when she used the regular one she got a lot of air bubbles in the line so she just uses the refillable cartridges now but we print a lot n i don't want to have to refill constantly, so I'm hoping that I can find a chaeper but good quality ink, because we have office, Sublimination and photo printers that i have to buy for so i figured i'd ask you since you seem to know alot about this stuff....btw no one has a video out on the differences between the two or even 3 with the refillable compared to the other two
I normally would not recommend it on a canon printer but if that is what you want make sure you install it perfectly so it does not cause any ink flow problems. Canon printers can not handle ink flow problems as they will become damaged.
Hi Jose, Keith here, I have a r3000 like your wife has. Had a cis in it and had ok luck with it but didnt know if it could have been better. Was just thinking of just going with refilables. What do you think, should I try another cic or just go with refilables? A what type of either should I go with? O and btw hows you printer room remodel going? Any of those ideas work that I suggested? Also an idea for an intro: have shots of your printers in action with music and some shots of you talking and some text. Take care buddy! Keith
+Keith Soderlund Actuall my wife does not have an R3000 She has and R340 which is totally different. I have not even started with the room. We just had the biggest snow fall we have ever experienced and I have been digging us out for days. The R3000 actually already operates in a CIS type mode. The carts are stationary and they feed ink via ink lines to the print head assembly which contains little baby carts or dampers and that is basically identical to a CIS. So then you add another CIS to the system, it is not a good idea and one that is bound to produce problems. Your best option at this point besides OEM Ink Carts is good refillable carts and good inks from someone like Jon CONE. They are more expensive than others, BUT they are superior to any other inks. They will basically match your original and be as glossy as original inks. You can always buy large OEM Vivid K3 carts and harvest ink from them for your refillables. That's what I do. If you only print on Matte media then you can use pretty much any other GOOD ink form any of the major 3rd party ink resellers. I love your idea for an intro! Thank you! I will definitely work on something like that.
Hello, Jose. Shout out from Asia :) . I got a question, can I install ciss on Canon pixma mx 494 model ? Keep up the good work and upload more videos . Thank you
Because of the way most Canon carts join against the print head I would not recommend CISS on a Canon. They all produce problems during use. It all depends on their design.
no but WHY would you want one? It's a already stationary cart printer with ink lines just like a CISS! That would be like mounting a CISS on top of another CISS. Get refillable carts and fill them.
Talk about a generic question!!! I have no idea. If it is Canon then forget it. If it is an Epson then what model? I only work with higher end NON Dye dedicated photo printers. Not L series Epson is any office type printer.
Can you? Yes. Should you? No! Canon printers u like Epsons do not operate well in the long term with CISS. Besides they are terribly designed. Use them if you don't care about your canon printer.
If you mean a CISS, you will do better with refillable carts and good inks. precisioncolors, inkjetcarts.us, InkOwl, inkrepublic, inkjetmall and others. NOT EBAY!
What could I possibly do for you??? If you had it repaired and the limes as new as you say then I would contact them and have them fix it correctly this time for you! You can only contact me here.
Yes. That was the very last CISS I bought and will likely ever buy. It is for the Epson 1400 and still works perfectly. Chips auto reset on the fly without stopping to print.
