Should I SELL my Ferrari F12 TDF? And get a 288GTO? 

My opinion is that the only opinion that matters is yours... Do what your heart says and I am sure we will enjoy whatever you buy... PS: if you are not sure just put it for sale in a very good price and only if someone buys it with a good premium you can sell it

The answer to "should I get a 288GTO?" is ALWAYS yes! The TDF is a glorious car I'm sure, but the GTO is special...

I think as amazing the tdf is the 288 is clearly one of ur dream cars... I agree with u that they are going to keep going up in value; therefore I think this justifies jumping on the band wagon now before it’s completely unabtainable

Yes yes and yes!! too many 288 GTO's are garage queens and we'd love to see some 288 GTO content

After listening your arguments I would definitely go for it, especially if 288 GTO is your favourite Ferrari. I would buy 288 GTO and replace the TDF with "regular" F12, or with 550 Maranello, to still enjoy the V12 GT Ferrari experience, without worrying about the value drop as miles accumulate. GT cars I think are all about driving them, on long road trips. Special edition cars are a bit different, not an easy decision for sure. What I love about the CarGuysTV channel is that you drive those rare and special cars properly (road trips, hillclimb) and you really enjoy the driving experience, this is the essence of owning a car like this. Thanks for bringing us, viewers, for the ride. Nice thing is that CarGuysTV would be probably the only RU-vid channel with a regularly driven 288 GTO. That would be something special. Not sure if popular, as modern supercars are probably more trendy on RU-vid. I wish that one day you will buy a McLaren F1, but prices are crazy, I know. Please consider making POV driving videos like TheTopher/Winding Road Magazine. In my opinion it would be a great addition to the channel, you would literally bring us for the ride. I remember that Sam from SeenThroughGlass had nice glasses with camera, and POV quality was good.

YES! the 288 GTO is a timeless classic! the F12 is amazing obviously but you'll be getting the 812 which will do the job even better!

288 GTO a real option? 288 without doubt! Thank you for sharing in the aural delight of that beautiful TDF; looking forward to the GTO! Do it, if you can 🤘

I - for one - appreciate your shared experience. It's nice to see you enjoying your vehicles and being a [seemingly] regular guy. Thanks for the content and keep up the good work 👍

I actually thought you were clinically insane until you mentioned the 3 Porsche idea 😍 OMG 356 & GT 2RS, that is 2 of my top 5 dream car garage

Hi Damien, I think thr tdf is special, but the 288GTO is iconic and the price difference is the gulf in status between the two. The 812 will be a more evolved car then the tdf because of natural progression and as such the driver is becoming more detracted from the car as it manages both its driver and environment. However, the 288 is iconic because its encapsulates the rawness of the true Ferrari driving experience, manual gearbox, heal and toeing and also because its devoid of driver assistance, traction control, even power steering and anti-lock brakes etc..and also because its probably the last Ferrari where the form of the body is over taking precedence over the mechicanal function, no winglets or speed activated flaps etc...the tdf is completely purposeful the GTO is beautiful with purpose as as well...and that is why having 288GTO would be the pinnacle of any Ferrari (attainable) Ferrari collection. I'd have mine in Black😊

It's criminal that 7-8k miles is considered high. Cars are not even run in before 20K!

Just came across your channel and how great! Love the TDF , I am waiting for Mr JWW to do his videos on his car but you seem so sensible. Wise choice keeping it. I am a massive fan of 288 and it’s my most iconic Ferrari. Been a Ferrari fan for 30 something years now and it was the 308 that did It for me until I got to see a 288. How good would it be to be able to own both the 288 and the TDF, perhaps sell the rest I saw in that garage first? Thing is the 288 is so up there you would not drive it a much probably , it’s bound to be temperamental , plus without all the mod cons of today’s era would you really be willing to drive it aggressively. Leave it for the crazy collectors who just want to own them for the value and investment. I look forward now to watching your videos

What I like about this channel is they are actually prepared to drive the cars they own. I do not see the point in buying a TDF and not driving it. Just get a big poster of the TDF if you're not going to drive it, it's cheaper, will have 0 miles on it and it won't get dirty.

You worry about the value driving your TDF, and that it’s a car you’ve got too much cash tied up in. Both of those will only get worse with a 288 GTO. Thing is though, 288 GTO is one of the most special cars Ferrari has ever made - yet the TDF remains one of the most special looking

You know what I think, is that the TDF is a modern day 288GTO. What happens if this happens and prices go up, big regret?

I realize it's less the TDF or any of the cars that you have that matter; it's the way you go about enjoying cars and the thoughts and thinking processes you share that are life affirming and enlightening. So whatever you decide to do, it will be the right thing to do. Cheers and good luck

Why don't you flush out all the liquids, and hang it on the wall, like an Italian masterpiece?

Damian, we know you can afford both. So please buy the 288 GTO as soon as possible. We want to see it! Make your boy dream come true!

It might be a sound decision, but there is no other Ferrari that beats the bubble bee’s looks. It is a fatal attraction, you know it wants to kill you. It is a looker and a keeper in my book

288 ticks a lot of boxes. LaFerrari is let down by those hideus[sic] wing mirrors! What about those Berlinetta Boxers? 70's -80's nostalgia✔ Mid-engine 12✔ Gated stick ✔

Some beauty advice gentlemen, if you want this channel to succeed, do not sell the utterly gorgeous Giallo F-12TDF; the car is so outstandingly handsome I will come back repeatedly just to bathe my eyes in its enchantment. Start the imagination rolling as to how you are going to feature and photograph, and reveal this car's character with FREQUENCY. Replaying the collection video, as you Brits say, just to see it again. The tracking shots through the wheat field were precious. A fine organic design always looks good captured in nature or in a garden. Just subscribed, don't disappoint.

If you had to choose between the two... 288GTO

I personally think keeping the TDF is the right decision. A stunning looking car which will also increase in value in years to come. By the way, love seeing you drive around roads in the beautiful New Forest that I know very well!

You can keep the TDF and buy also a 288 GTO, you have the money, you have the power !

288 GTO is iconic and beautiful - I would get the 288. But perhaps keep the TDF and thin out some other cars. Don’t worry about the mileage, 20k and counting now in the 16M. 👍

Off topic... looking forward to an update on the GT3 Touring

The 288 could be a real garage queen. Too valuable to drive. A theif magnet. It's old and will require constant expensive trips to a dealer. Food for keeping the TDF!.

There are two types of Ferrari special car owners: the investors and the car guys. Make a point by making this the highest mileage tdF in the world. My guess is it'll get you a building slot for the 812 special.

288 all the time, but on the other hand i think that in every Supercar Garage should be a V12 Ferrari. How about an extra Testarossa?

Do not, ultimately, the TDF will cost as high as the 288 because it was a special edition as well.. so keeping it will only increase the value more, and because you have a lot of cars, you will eventually stop driving it and the mileage issue will be obsolete ..so please keep it..from me in BOTSWANA,AFRICA.

I think it's awesome you've done this mileage on your TDF. Did you know there's a Dutch TDF with over 80.000+ km's on it?

I think the TDF has appreciated to the point where a trade on a 288 is almost even money. In addition, I think the invites to the upcoming limited models based on the 812, will incite current TDF owners to part with the car and thus, you could see an increase in them hitting the market, which would invariably affect the value of your TDF. Smart money is to pursue the swap if still an option.

You helped me with my decision so here is my input in an attempt to reciprocate. Get the 288 GTO. I refer you to your sept 7th q&a video, 5:58 into it. 😉 You responded to a question that it was your dream car. And if the 812 is on the way, that’s big V12 GT Ferrari done.

I have this exact same problem with my Ferrari 550. I bought it because it’s the last manual only V12 Ferrari....makes it very difficult to replace....

Morning Damien, I think you know in your heart of hearts buddy, you have to own a 288 GTO. It's in you. If you have to Sacrifice the TDF to allow a 288 GTO to be parked in the Garage, then so be it. I think we both know that the TDF needs to held for a couple of more years to see it's values climbing, irrespective of mileage, it will. Obviously the mileage will dictate how much each individual car will sell for but it's one of your "banker" cars, one that you can still go out and drive and it WILL appreciate. It's that good. Ahhhh FFS I'm making a pathetic case here. Bollox I can see why your where your at with it all. Keep doing what you do. I'm loving the work your crafting together here. You are my goto Chanel when I've got a bit of down time and I want to and drift off in my mind and hear from somebody who doesn't talk or write about cars he's been given for a couple of days then has to create a discussion around that Limited time spent with the car. No I've more respect for a man who's got icons in his garage there to be driven whenever he feels fit. Add to it and get an Evo VI TME in silver please then I can watch you have the same amount of giggles I did, then it will bring back all my memories I had. Trust me you will not regret it. PS please let me have a look at it in the flesh if you do get one...........little things like putting the key in the boot and the part of it would flex in it was that light.........

Two beautiful cars. But considering the future changes in the car industry I would definitely go for the 288 GTO.

Good call. I don't think the F12 TDF is fully appreciated yet, and won't be for a decade. However, there's nothing like it and there won't ever be anything like it again. I'm certain you will regret letting it go. Work harder, do more deals, dream bigger, get the 280 GTO as well!!! 😁

Yes, 288 GTO is iconic. For the next Q&A can you address why people decide to sell a few cars at once even though they can afford to keep them? Also, will your collection ever decrease in size as you get older? And, will you continue to make videos even if your channel doesn’t “takeoff”? Love the videos by the way!

My personal opinion is that the 288 GTO is the most beautiful car ever made. Pictures just don't do it justice.

288 goes up and tdf wont, i would put the money in the 288 and even if you use it like the tdf the depreciation wont be as severe. plus the 288 is an icon

Damo you are still cracking me up. You’ve answered your own Q!! Keep buying these epic cars, time for TDF become a memory

100% yes! 288 GTO is such a classic with far more character than any modern Ferrari. I'm sure the F12 TDF is a future classic but apart from performance it has nothing over the 288 GTO in terms of style and character. Would love to see some quality in depth content of a 288 on youtube too. Modern Ferrari's are impressive but they're replaced so quickly with the next model they just lack a certain something that the models of 25 years ago and older seem to keep.

Sell F12, yes. Buy 288, yes (if you can find one) . It will be the best move you could make. Besides, you can’t keep putting miles on the F12. The 288GTO is a very, very special car.

I could go on a rant on why the TDF is one of the best cars ever made but I’m gonna keep it short. NO.

The 288 is so much cooler than the TDF, I feel like the greatness of the TDF is overhyped by teenagers on the internet who think it’s cool. It will just be eclipsed by whatever the hot version of the 812 is. No love for the F50?

This is a situation I want and don’t want to be it but I would wait until the limited 812 comes out then sell it. This will probably be when the value is at its highest! This will make it easier for your next purchase whether that be the 288 GTO or something else but think about is there another car that would be less controversial, unpopular and potentially value. Keep up the absolutely superb work that you are doing and giving so many people inspiration and enjoyment on a weekly basis

Can’t beat a Ribbed Jumper ! ❤

Yes of course you should...the GTO is my favourite too, if you can do it , its way way cooler than any new Ferrari

Love the way you include your fans, nice. Think you've made the right choice for now. 812 is very similar on paper, but a lot cheaper, plus it will be much less milage sensitive. But it probably wont be as special. If you are keeping the tdf after comparing with the 812, you should plan to never sell the tdf and sod the milage. The F40 is closely related the the GTO ( never officially named 288 i believe) , are you likely to have both at the same time, and then are you going to get the whole collection of hypercars F50, Enzo etc? I hate the abbreviation but YOLO

Promise to drive a 288GTO before you consider selling the F12. It may not live up to expectations. Think of it; in ten years time the TDF may be worth a lot more than it is now?

One answer YES sell it for the 288 GTO. If i was lucky enough to win the euro's tonight the first cars i'd buy would be the F40 and the 288 GTO regardless of cost,why because i've dreamed of owning them since they came out as a kid in the eighties. What wouldn't i buy with that money is a car like the tdf or it's lesser variant 812 or any modern super car really. Or you could buy a Carrera GT instead of the 288,if it was me with the money then i'd buy both.

I like the design of a common civil F12 berlinetta more. This TDF version is too aggressive for my taste. Regarding selling/not selling, you will be really driving the GT3 anyway. Sell this Italian thing and buy something else from Porsche.

You already have the F40, next stop 288GTO. You won't regret it. The TDF was/is a "market-milker" IMO. The 288GTO won't lose value either - its a proper hand built open-gated hairy-chested limited-run Enzo car. Anything since just isn't. Leave the yellow peril to the mincers in Chelsea.

What a great noise it makes the tdf but the 288 gto will eventually make 5 million quid come time ,so go for one definitely,same as me i think the 288 gto is pretty much the best looking Ferrari period

I'm pretty sure I saw this TDF outside Bournemouth station about a year ago... Am I right? I think you guys live close by.. It would be great to visit and admire your car collection... :)

This is such a rock and a hard place (first world) dilemma. Surely as the TDF and GTO are both appreciating assets there must be something clever accountants/finance companies can do so you can have both?

Just want to say, what a great youtube channel. I have loved Ferrari's all my life but never had the chance to drive one :( But watching your videos has given me a real drivers insight in to owning one. Keep up the great content and honesty. As for should you sell it, listen to your heart. You will always have the memory of the F12, what new experiences are out there?

Your words make total sense in my opinion . I think people really need to start re think mileage in regards to a cars value. modern classic are all about condition, history and recent money spent on them in my opinion, mileage is just a number. Mine is on 127 k at the moment and still a bullett proof V8 , jut breaking it in really ha. Yes to the 964 RS YEs Yes.

I would be shitting myself driving 900k car on the road , get rid of it pal and buy a 675LT and a GT2RS and still money left over. Mega car though

If you sell it, how will Tatbels get to drive it? Maybe sell it to her????

288 is a huge liabilty, so much cash in one pot and you'd be on pins driving it, just one prang, just one old biddy in a moggy minor crashing into you and you'd be up shit creek, without a paddle. As lovely as it is, i'd seriously give it a miss. You appear to like driving a lot, so why not buy some cheaper drivers cars that wont break the bank and just enjoy the thrills that they offer, a tuned evo 6 for example, you could totally abuse something like that until the wheels fell off and still not lose any sleep over it.

Damian, would be interesting to see a collaboration video of you sharing your thoughts of this car with MR JWW - another youtuber who happens to have a TDF too.

No way. It will never be out the garage getting fixed. Beautiful as it is, old italian cars are rubbish for electrical faults including the 288 GTO.....

Absolutely if you dont mind the engine over heating in traffic or the gearbox taking 2 hours to warm up or never ever bring able to drive it in anything other than perfect weather engine out services every 50 ft the heaviest clutch I've ever used seems like a great idea

Bloody hell, 900k? It's an epic car, but 900k?!

I think I would only buy a supercar if I don't have to worry about the mileage and a car like an f12tdf I would keep unless I'm getting a new 812 "tdf" or whatever the limited version is called especially since it's the last naturally aspirated v12 probably

If the replacement for the 812 is still going to be naturally aspirated.. then it makes sense to sell it.. but the minute they say that the new one will not be natural its going to go up 20+ percent immediately

So at 2.30 you say that £900,000 is an awful lot of money to have invested in one car as a reason for selling the TDF but then you are considering buying a 288 which you admit are now £2,000,000 ! Which IS an awful lot of money to invest in one car (but I would buy a 288 if I could)

Purely from an investment point, you should get a 288. If the 250 GTO is any indication then you should probably get one. The TDF is so incredible though, although in 5 years the price of the 288 with have gone up much more (percent wise that is).

I think that no one should ever sell their f12 tdf, it's a beast worth having in your garage

Hey chaps! Defo get the Ferrari 288 GTO! Really really love the TDF; but the GTO is a proper limited Ferrari. Maybe go for the 288 and also get a Ferrari 599 GTO too! Keep up the great videos. Great Sunday watching from Weybridge. Thanks

Fantastic video Damien!

I think you should just give it away.... to me 😂

Great video. An enviable dilemma to say the least. I remember at Goodwood FoS circa 2005 there was a seemingly immaculate 4 cam 275gtb for sale at £485,000! Weren't GTO's and 959s at one point going for under 200k?

Yes you should because, as great as the F12 TdF is, it wont be the last naturally aspirated V12 Ferrari berlinetta, whereas the 288 GTO on the other hand will always be the daddy. But bear in mind the GTO is currently twice the price of the TdF

The simple answer is no....in years to come you’ll appreciate the tdf more as it’s less fragile and more usable and although not as rare,better all round and values will increase accordingly

NO! YOU NEED BOTH....AND GET A BUGATTI VEYRON TOO.

As much as I love the car I think you should sell it. There will most likely be a similar version of the 812 which you may be able to get brand new. Also may be if there prices go down you can buy another in the future. And in the mean time like you said you can experience other cars. Also you could sell it and buy an f12 and put an exhaust on it if you’ll miss the sound. Many options😁 Love your videos

How is this even a question?!?! Of bloody well course you should.

You helped me with Dc2 Integra type R and this is my honest opinion, I think the decision is easy, 288GTO is a BIG investment while the F12 is going to lose value, Classic Ferrari's are the answer and you have that raw power experiance that is never going to exist in the future, now that the Electric cars can do 0-100 faster than any car, why keep it ?

Yes, I would. However, perhaps you can sell a number of other cars and only keep the special ones. By the way, you also need a 599 gto

Great video. Will there be an 812 tdf?

Get one and drive it like you do the F12 😎 The 288 gto is MEGA! Ultimate cool man 👌

Ferrari and all super car are what they are because of the engineering and the breeding they manufacturer put into it. It’s the experience of the drive, no one can fully experience a car like Ferrari without driving it. I never understood the collector mentality but and let it sit. It’s like experiencing life through a pane of glass. But as far as putting miles on a car regardless the price the only I can say is we are all heading in the same direction, a box in the ground. Worry about the mileage on you and not the car. If you can afford to experience all the other cars then do it, if you feel you can’t enjoy all the car you spoke about and you want to them sell it and enjoy. Regardless just enjoy and not worry about it

Yeah I agree dude. Love the TDF it’s my favourite modern Ferrari. But you are killing the value with the thousands of miles. You could get a regular F12 and drive it with no worries 😁. What on earth do you do for a living?? 😳 just saw the full garage video.

Keep it...if it’s a long term investment. In 10/20 years the young money coming up now will want the TDF and they will pay TOP dollar for it, todays young money in 20 years won’t want a 288 GTO as it won’t be revered as it is today as today’s young money will have no attachment to it, and the people who do will be dropping like flies...both are amazing vehicles but I’m 25 and if in 10/20 years I have that sort of money in the bank I’m going TDF aalllll day (TDF v F40 may be a tricky one). Just one man’s opinion. Amazing garage all round too, props to you sir!

Agree the sound of the TdF is amazing an toxicating ... Choose the most rare of the two. ...Probably the 288 GTO.... It also provides a more pure experience ..... But now it is way too expensive! Therefore wait for the next stock market crash which will drive down prices ...!

I do think the Carrera GT would be a great alternative, however I’ve heard you can easily burn out the clutch and it costs a small fortune to repair. I think you should hang on to the TDF till at least you can do a comparison video between it and the Superfast, that would be prime time TV!

At the end of the day Damian it all comes down to personal choice. You are fortunate enough to be able to afford these cars - we are mostly all here as we have the same passions but cannot afford any of them. The 288 GTO for me is the all time No.1 Ferrari so for me yes do it - but that TDF is awesome too. Perhaps its a generation thing for us older chaps. There is something more exotic about mid-engined cars - probably a bit more 'Top Trumps!' All you'd need then is a Miura ;o) Enjoy mate

I would rather sell a load of other cars before this to get the funds for the 288 because the tdf is one of my favorite cars in the world, but if selling the tdf is the only way for you to achieve your 288 dream I'd say do it. On the other hand you can look at it this way. Both cars will go up in value so if you truly miss the tdf in the future you can always sell the 288 and get another tdf. I suspect the 288 will appreciate more than the tdf because of the amount produced and it being one of the 5 super Ferrari's. Also, the 812 is said to be a tdf that is actually usable, for less money so you would kind of get that driving experience with the new car. Unfortunately it is not even remotely as beautiful as the F12 platform if I'm honest. In any case you should indeed wait with the sale so you can compare, maybe the sale will hurt less in that way. Anyway, as always I love the content, keep it coming!!

Some how, people have change tunes about trading a F12 TdF vs for a 288 Ferrari to a Porsche Carerra GT. I am qualified to say this because on top of the techno advances from Porsche , I do owned all the Ferrari, LaFerrari you mentioned, I also have ten Porsche’s. But a Porsche can never have the same respect as a Porsche. When you are inside a Ferrari regardless of model, it just doesn’t give you that sense of being inside. The very obvious glance but its saying a sour grape that says “hey, look at me, I couldn’t care less about your Ferrari !”... Plus the fact that you cannot buy it with money 💰! You know which car you want to keep...

As people always say: do not meet your childhood heroes. Right now, you "complaint" about having one car representing so much value as 3 porsches. And the 288 GTO would be more than twice the value. Keep the fabulous F12 tdf ;-)

good choice to keep the car, better engine, look, performance, etc......288GTO just value nothing else..

Damien keep it until I can come along with an offer to buy it from you! I think you’re doing the right thing. I get the 288 desire it’s epic!

I think it depends on how closely the F12tdf and 812 Superfast compare. For me the 288gto is in the same league as the 1962 250 gto, F40, F50, Enzo and La Ferrari. That is, they are all considered to be really extraordinary examples of Ferrari’s for their era. The F12tdf is an exceptional car, but, the 812 Superfast is so close in capability and at a third or quarter of the price. So I can understand why you’re asking the question.

the 288 is a classic, more so than the f12. i reckon the former will continue to be worth more than the f12 in the long run, but that should be beside the point, - the 288 is a piece of Ferrari legend. Go for it.

nice car, nice spec. brutal sound, limited ed. 4 reasons to keep it for another while. br

Well what a dilemma, so its good to ask other people, because we are less inclined to make emotional decisions, given we are third party. lets try and break it down, Is this purchase for pleasure or investment, because the two should never mix and you will always be in conflict with yourself when you try to accommodate both in the same sentence, its like buying houses.... Secondly they are both incredible cars, very different. Personally I believe you should buy the 288 GTO because its one of YOUR lifetime goals and it will stay super rare... The TDF will be held back in growth until Ferrari finally sell what we assume to be the last NA TDF version of the 812. This will be the big ticket item to collect and everybody knows it. That's the emotional version, practical, is more difficult, we can guess the TDF has more growth in its value because it is still yet to occur but it won't be the last version 812 TDF. Just how that will play out can maybe be compared to 550/575 versus F12 values, they have all gone up, but not as much. I would say go with your heart because you only live once. If the GTO does not tick all your boxes long term, you could easily reverse and get back into an 812 TDF for sure... whatever you do, you must enjoy it, collectors who only buy and put 1000 miles on it, while it collects dust the rest of the time are in my opinion wasting their lives. Your time is the real commodity, not money. Do you really need more money in your life with these investments. We know practically there are better investment vehicles than cars, so if its just cars, make the emotional decision and I will be forever grateful if you just share 5 minutes of that experience on VT with us all. :-) thanks for asking.. hope this helps in some small way.... the final choice is always YOURS.

Do what you feel is the right thing to do... Personally, I'd sell it before the bottom falls out of the market.

When I clicked on the video my answer was yes then I seen the first 10 seconds and that sound I an tempted to say no but from a money prospective the 288 gto will only ROCKET in price in the next couple of years so i say go for it but off course your opinion is the only thing that matters