Should seminary teachers be paid??

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What is LDS seminary? Do all members of the Church of Jesus Christ have to take seminary? What do they teach in seminary? Are all seminary teachers paid? Should seminary teachers be paid?
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@janethofmann1401 3 месяца назад

I’m an early morning seminary teacher--there is no amount of money that would make me want this calling… therefore it has to be a labor of love for the Lord.

@WalterReade 3 месяца назад

I taught early-morning seminary for 7 years. I loved it, but am also glad I'm not still doing it. 🙂

@michiefhu893 3 месяца назад

Exactly, same in Philippines

@briannicholls2628 3 месяца назад

Bless you!

@RyanMercer 3 месяца назад

I don't think so. Not here in the Midwest where you maybe have a dozen kids for less than an hour a day and, in my experience, it's frequently 2 of the parents or grandparents of a a notable fraction of the kids doing it.

@jerryday813 3 месяца назад

There are many full time employees for the church and they have church callings as well, just like other members. Full time seminary teachers are church employees and have callings as well. Seminary callings are not the same as being a full time seminary teacher. I had a seminary calling for 4 years and yes, it was very demanding but many church callings are. The church pays church employees because it’s their job, the church doesn’t pay members for their callings because callings are volunteer service.

@jenbringwell 3 месяца назад

As an early morning seminary teacher, I would love to get paid! 😂 There actually is training available online for all seminary teachers. I’ve done it. It’s obviously not required, but it’s available. My husband is the bishop and I would say that we probably spend a pretty similar amount of time on our callings.

@tamicox990 3 месяца назад

I was an early morning seminary teacher- preparing a good lesson took half my day, 5 days a week- it was like a part time job and I was a mom of 3 young children.

@papasteph3226 2 месяца назад

God bless you for your service. Half a day for a 45-50 minute lesson? I worry for our early morning teacher training from their Coordinators on helping them to use the curriculum, limit prep time so to not overwhelm.

@SandiPerkins 3 месяца назад

I attended release time seminary with paid teachers in Utah and had a wonderful experience. I now teach early morning seminary in Texas. I dont think I should be paid, however, the end of the week donut expectation is an expensive one!

@victoriagledhill5872 3 месяца назад

In France, it's once a week, in the evening (at church). And it's not payed calling.

@montube77 2 месяца назад

All seminary teachers in France are volunteers but some teachers do teach early morning seminary 5 days a week. And they’re loving it.

@briannicholls2628 3 месяца назад

To my understanding - CES hires seminary teachers in Arizona where i live. We had 1,000 students in seminary with 6 or so full time teachers. It was not a calling through the ward, it was a job through CES

@ktlouisechoo 3 месяца назад

One of my most memorable experiences was my seminary teacher coming to my tennis game to support me! Made me feel very special! 😊

@talmagehales1736 3 месяца назад

My dad teaches release time seminary (full-time) in Washington state. I’m grateful that he gets paid because that’s how my family eats!

@tburbank1 3 месяца назад

I think he was my son’s seminary teacher.

@andreajohnson7115 3 месяца назад

What if seminary teachers were called to serve as missionaries teaching youth? Service mission? There are already so many forms and different time commitments in service missions.

@vendingdudes 3 месяца назад

This would be amazing

@brettmajeske3525 3 месяца назад

Some service missionaries do teach seminary, but only early morning.

@vendingdudes 3 месяца назад

I would love to be a seminary teacher if it was a paid position. To be able to leave my current job and instead be immersed in the gospel and help the youth? Win win! I would treat it as a calling anyway, so no worries about just going through the motions

@Abinadi42 3 месяца назад

Even in Alaska we has release time seminary, church buildings with seminary wings next to all of the high schools, with paid seminary teachers.

@alisarichardsramirezmusic2233 3 месяца назад

I teach Seminary not as a job. I volunteer my time and serve in the calling asked of me to serve. It's not that I'm employed to do so, so I think its consistent with other callings in the Church as we keep callings volunteer service based. However, time release Seminary seems to be isolated to a few states. Is it their job and not a calling or in this case is it considered both?

@josuedominguez770 3 месяца назад

I don’t really know how the Church handles seminary teachers. Yes, it is a very time-consuming calling, but here are my two cents on this matter. Like the EQ or RS, there could be a fund that can be used to activities for all the seminary classes in any given building. Probably an approximate of $100 per class, and perhaps this fund can go for the spending of weekly Friday treats. I dont know, but that's my take on this situation.

@dsolomon 7 дней назад

I've heard from some seminary teachers that they do have a budget for class expenses, but it's incredibly small. It's something like $50-100 for the whole year.

@dog_vanlife Месяц назад

Hey Saints Unscripted can you please talk about what the Saints believe as fws as the Mark of the beast. Revelations chapter 13 verses 13 - fowawd.

@dsolomon 7 дней назад

I think it's weird that it's a calling for some and a profession for others. It should either be one or the other. It wouldn't be weird to change people from having the calling to pay them. Simply release them and then have CES post the job openings like they do elsewhere. Sure, it would be a part-time job in most cases, but it could be beneficial for many families to have that extra income. I've heard that in terms of a time commitment, bishop is the most time consuming, and being a seminary teacher is #2.

@cassies2556 3 месяца назад

From the perspective of someone who has friends who have studied ministry in many different religious denominations, I don't think we take seminary seriously enough. The main idea, as I understand it, is that seminary is supposed to help the high school aged youth to prepare to teach the gospel and hopefully be able to serve full time missions. If that's the case, it should be a high priority to hire and train the very best teachers so that students in all different areas can have a consistently high quality education during those important years of preparation. I think in this age of technology, it's more than possible to connect the majority of church members with this education without having to depend on untrained and inexperienced teachers. In order to avoid sending unprepared missionaries out into the field, some significant changes should be considered.

@kasiagustaveson1840 3 месяца назад

I absolutely LOVE my calling as an Early Morning Seminary Teacher! I never want to be released. I'm happy to do it for no pay because it brings me so much joy; however, having said that...I would love a budget for the donuts I bring "every Friday"! Let's be honest here folks...not only am I doing this for free, but I'm actually spending a lot of money on donuts!😂

@tjeilmas 3 месяца назад

I live in California and I had early morning seminary. It was very difficult especially during wrestling season where I would go to seminary at 6:15 and I wouldn’t get home until about 630. I would take a shower eat have a little bit of time for homework and then go to bed. Then rinse and repeat five days a week.it was a sacrifice, but it was worth it

@mikejohnson5537 2 месяца назад

I had release time Seminary in the Salt Lake Valley. The seminary teachers were full-time paid teachers working for CES. We had about four classes each hour every day. I have taught early morning seminary at 6 AM here in Virginia as a stake calling. I do not believe called seminary teachers should be paid. I have put in similar amounts of time preparing and doing other callings. There is a difference between doing something as a profession and accepting callings. I do believe that paid CES instructors teach seminary in some parts of the developing world. Look at new stake presidencies and it is not uncommon to see CES instructors listed as the profession of the individual called into the stake presidency.

@KevlarX2 3 месяца назад

I was in Alabama, and because we were so spread out in distance, we had the home study style seminary. We were given booklets to fill out during the week at home, and given other seminary things like scripture cards to memorize, maps, timelines, scriptures, etc. We would meet as a group once a week in the evening, either at church or at the Seminary teachers house. We would turn in our booklets to be graded and we would have a lesson, and maybe some snacks afterward. At the end of the year, those who completed the course went to a Stake Seminary graduation at the Stake center.

@tnvstock 2 месяца назад

I'm an early morning seminary teacher - I only wish we had more than a $50 per year budget.

@dallinshumway7188 3 месяца назад

David asked if paying all teachers would lead to people campaigning for the position. Yes, of course. Becoming a seminary teacher as a job is incredibly difficult because of how many people go for it (I say this having gone through the initial phase of the training program and not getting invited back). But why is that bad? If it's a job, then you want people to be competing for it because that's how you get the best candidates. Bottom-line, if it's a calling then of course it shouldn't be paid: callings exist to give us the chance to volunteer our time in living consecrated lives. But if it's going to be a job that people apply to and are paid for, that's okay too. There are lots of people who work for the Church all over the world to help it accomplish its mission. There's nothing wrong with that.

@D.LeviBoillot-sj5kf 3 месяца назад

I grew up in Mesa. My high school had enough members to where there were 4-5 full-time seminary teachers for 5-6 periods per day. It’s an investment that pays for itself over and over…both in temporal and spiritual blessings. It’s investing in ourselves. This is why we make millions in stocks at GameStop.

@D.LeviBoillot-sj5kf 3 месяца назад

And generally speaking, it really isn’t that much money anyway. Especially now with inflation.

@vitalykartavykh1003 3 месяца назад

Of course they should be paid! No question.

@lynettemills7216 3 месяца назад

I taught early morning seminary for 8 years in Santa Barbara. It was an interesting experience. Some years were great and others were harder, but boy did I learn a lot and have some great friends from those years. We taught in our stake center and divided the classes into freshman, sophomores, juniors and seniors. I loved the teaching the freshman class because the kids were more excited to be there. We tried to make it fun … as much as meeting early morning can be.

@dylandeshazerable 3 месяца назад

They should be paid. No question.

@maritzajaquez7662 Месяц назад

We have higher attendance when church is hosting a potluck 🤣

@VictorineLieske 3 месяца назад

Good question, and good discussion on it. On the one hand, how do you pay someone for one calling that takes a lot of time, and not pay for other callings? You guys brought up some good thoughts about why it wouldn't be a good idea. On the other hand, there could be a principle of self-reliance there, if seminary teachers were paid, that could be one more way the church helps families who struggle. I've often thought about that when cleaning the building for my twice-a-year volunteer work. Maybe paying someone to do that would help them financially instead of asking them to go to the bishop for a food order each month. Just something I've thought about.

@stardustgirl2904 3 месяца назад

If someone ever felt overwhelmed with a calling they could denied the calling! It's usually retired people in my area that do it.

@brettmajeske3525 3 месяца назад

There used to be paid custodians for buildings. The Church only switched to putting the Elder's Quorum in charge in the 90s.

@RunShootSki 3 месяца назад

Seminary was good. Early morning seminary in Washington state, small building by our high school.

@FaithMurri 3 месяца назад

I went to early morning seminary-didn't graduate a single year because I had insomnia. I did all the readings and scripture mastery, though-I just didn't go, and the make-up work was ridiculous. I sometimes feel, having met people who are from Utah and had seminary just as a regular class at school, that I deserve their diplomas because so many of them know NOTHING about the scriptures! I served my mission with a girl who, while watching the Prince of Egypt, asked me in complete sincerity if the plagues were in the Bible 🙃 I don't know what happened there, but so many people who do in-school seminary don't pay attention whatsoever or something

@beckischreyer 3 месяца назад

We had home study and met every Sunday morning before church. For a while we met at my house. I learned a lot… we had workbooks and scripture chase competitions. And there was always an LDS university professor OR graduate students from the University in our community to teach us. It covered about four high schools in an area covering about 50 miles. And no… it works as a great calling out in the mission field. I’ve never heard a seminary teacher out there feel like they should get paid. If they did that …they would have to be fired to change teachers. Seems like that could get dicey

@themepark_experience 3 месяца назад

They use to pay all seminary teachers throughout the US. It’s a very high demand ‘calling’. To do it well it’s more hours than even a Bishop.

@brittanymcguff 3 месяца назад

They used to pay all of them. Not sure exactly when it stopped but it would be interesting to see it be reintroduced.

@jerryday813 3 месяца назад

When I taught in the 80’s, they paid called seminary teachers a stipend, but it was very small and every teacher I knew just used it on their class.

@StewartFletcher 3 месяца назад

Go Hermiston!!

@Ahb7010 3 месяца назад

You are making a gross overestimation of how much paid seminary teachers make. Think close to minimum wage.

@Rodno376 3 месяца назад

If seminary teachers are getting paid comparable to local high school teachers they’re not getting into it for the money.

@stardustgirl2904 3 месяца назад

Callings are for our spiritual growth! I don't believe anyone should be paid for a calling!

@CrazyGoose2704 3 месяца назад

I totally agree but my seminary teachers were there an entire school day and did early mornings and late night classes as well so they wouldn’t have time to have a job to provide for their families if they weren’t being paid. I’m not even 100% sure they were. I’d assume they were due to how much time they spent doing it.

@stardustgirl2904 3 месяца назад

@@CrazyGoose2704 Honestly I'm really tired of people trying to change the gospel! In my area young adults are wearing crosse's!

@macadameane 3 месяца назад

@@stardustgirl2904 Full time CES seminary teachers have been around for a long long time. This is nothing new. The paid teachers do the work full time, all day.

@CrazyGoose2704 3 месяца назад

@@stardustgirl2904 I’m not sure I can see how paying people who have a very demanding calling, so much so that they can’t hold a job to provide for their family, would be changing gospel. I understand not paying seminary teachers that only teach early morning or late night classes. However, the teachers in my area taught seminary all day every day that they would work a “normal” job. I’m not sure what wearing crosses has to do with this.

@stardustgirl2904 3 месяца назад

@@CrazyGoose2704 In the church of Jesus Christ of latter day saints, has always taught us to use our free agency! If someone should feel overwhelmed with a particular calling they don't have to accept the calling if they feel it would interfere with their job! All things are possible when we choose to put our trust and faith in Heavenly Father! I have seen this many times in my life, Heavenly Father provides a way! 🙏🏻 My husband works full time and he's the Mayor of our community and he's just been made the Temple shift coordinator, and before that he was a ward missionary , on the Bishopric and a member of the high council! We raised our family as well! So l understand what busy is! The greatest reward in receiving a calling and the spirit of God that comes with it! Nothing can compare to the great blessings we receive in service of our Lord! I'm also a Temple worker and I help my husband with his election efforts for religious freedom! Enjoy 😍 conference!🤗💜🙏🏻👑🕊️

@KBColeLong 3 месяца назад

Seminary teachers in idaho are paid...teachers. Also, where I went to school, both old & new testament were credited as they were "history".

@tyherty45 3 месяца назад

Same answer to “Should the apostles be paid?” Give you a hint: No

@alisarichardsramirezmusic2233 3 месяца назад

Sure they do. I see their lives wholly dedicated to testifying and building the kingdom full-time and doing so world-wide. They likely make far less than what they'd make in their perspective professions that they left to serve full-time. They don't though.

@pplucker9486 3 месяца назад

Well, the Apostles are paid.

@vitalykartavykh1003 3 месяца назад

They are paid

@alisarichardsramirezmusic2233 3 месяца назад

@pplucker9486 yes, that is what was said however, they receive far less than what their prospective professions could make them as they chose to serve full time instead and answer the call.

@alisarichardsramirezmusic2233 3 месяца назад

@vitalykartavykh1003 yes that is what was said however they don't work and left their professions to serve full time.