john smith you’re deflecting my comment and I used to follow linsey before the drama happened. I saw she and Freddie being flirty with each other way before the baby came along (2014). You shouldn’t be proud to have a shotgun wedding and Linsey admitted to a “friend” that she only wanted a baby, not Freddie but stuck with Freddie due to her conservative parents. That smaller TEA channel got a hold of that message, leaked that out before they got their video striked. Ppl can get married at their own pace and are in no obligations to meet your ideal marriage expectations. If you really hate Jeannie so much, why don’t you ignore her. You’re obviously giving her money if you’re so focus on her life by commenting these videos and watching her on the shows. Where was the ring on linsey before she got knocked up? Is it hypocritical for conservative Christians to engage in premarital sex and having a baby before the ring? Most real conservative Christians are against that right?
john smith flirting for a long time is emotionally cheating. But I guess cheating to you means being physical as in having sex. Jeannie even admitted that Freddie likes blondes. Idk what you’re talking about and one of Freddie’s friend told Linsey on IG to be grateful that Jeannie paid her farm house in TN after she tweeted that drama. Guess what Linsey did? She deleted that friend’s comment and unfollowed them after they spilled the tea on her page. You’re always taking a jab at Jeanie and giving her money the more you view her content. Anyways, your education failed you bc you deflect my comment and didn’t answer my question about their hypocrisy. Nice try and don’t give Jeannie money by commenting on her content. It’ll save you a headache.
@john smith You're a failure bc you said you will rest your case and you are still trying to come at me. Keep riding on Jeannie's coattail, your hate is giving her money.
When a man tells his gf he cheated, why do men they always say she meant nothing to me, I made a mistake, itll never happen again?!! To me, THAT'S EVEN WORSE. You'd throw our whole relationship away for someone who didn't even mean anything to you.
You have to choose a person based off the amount of discipline and emotional control they show you. Most women choose men for their looks alone and end up getting hurt. If you choose what everyone else wants then you can pretty much expect the same outcome.
I’m disappointed they didn’t talk about the possibility of STDs and unwanted pregnancy. It only takes one time. Now you’re putting your partner at risk.
I think what they should have said was, cheating isnt an accident. Cause cheating can definitely be a mistake (a mistake is something you did wrong, where as an accident is like what @Crona Krona said about slipping and falling into a pussy or shoving your dick in someone.)
What kind of advise is the 91 year old giving? A whole mess she is. If someone cheats and confesses and is serious about not doing it again and trying to make the relationship work. I feel like it gives the couple a chance to rebuild the eroded trust. If someone cheats and keeps it a secrete you can’t address something you are not aware of. For the first time agree 💯 with Adrienne and Jeanie.
Like she cheated plenty of times and didn’t tell her partner and is now telling other people to do it to normalize that bs and make herself feel better. Trash
@john smith I tell my husband all the time if he cheats ONCE I am leaving. Why?Because in the 8 years we have been together, I have had all types of men hit on me (attractive ones, wealthy ones, etc) and have NEVER cheated or even thought about it. If I can manage not to cheat with men bothering me all the time, he should be able to keep it in his pants. Period.
Loni ruined the whole conversation with her negative expressions. She has been doing that a lot, being dismissive and disrespectful. At least be professional enough not to reveal those childish looks Auntie.
Cheating is a deal breaker for me. I don't care how long, who it was, or what type. You step out on me, I'm done. Cheating isn't something I take lightly because it takes a lot to get there and if you're at that point, I clearly don't mean anything to you
Why does it always seem like Loni is disinterested in what the girls have to say unless it’s really a topic she’s speaking on. I know she talked about in one episode how she likes to listen before responding, but she’s just looking down Or fidgeting like she needs to start being more engaged !
SassmastaT if she was joking then this wouldn’t be the same reoccurring face in multiple videos, you grow up and clearly know how to read body language 🤷🏾♀️
By that logic you could have one night stands with strangers all the time “oh it doesn’t matter it’s not like a long standing affair” cheating is cheating
So you could be married to someone for 15 years, have 3 kids, a house, the white picket fence and all, and just let it go because your spouse cheated on you 1 time? I've never been cheated on, and I've always been the type to say I'd leave if it happens even just 1 time. But different circumstances do cause for different outcomes. In the scenario I mentioned I might take him back and work through it. 1 time can be a mistake. 2 times is bullshit.
Loni is doing too much with all those facial expressions. That's being so rude man. The ladies made really great points and she over there rolling her eyes and mean mugging
You should be honest at all times. And cheating just means lies and deceit. So if they or you get caught yes you should be honest and you can sit down like adults and discuss a solution that works...True or facts?
I agree. I am mature enough to look at my partner as a whole as and not just one poor decision. If you come to me with honesty. I might be able to forgive a sexual indiscretion alot easier, than lies, betrayal, and deceit. I never want to cultivate a relationship where my partner is fearful of telling me something that I need to know. They should know that our relationship is strong enough to withstand the truth. Even if, it's something that we may not be able to get through, we can at least uncouple in a very friendly and non dramatic way. If you add on betrayal, lies, and deceit, it makes it impossible for me to trust you, it wounds me far more, and it is going to make me a vicious bitch. Your best bet is to tell the truth. I probably won't forgive you, but I won't try to destroy you either. Real talk, it is just sex (assuming it is just sex). Am I walking away from 30 years over a one night stand? That is a lot to consider. I'd also ask myself if I am willing to throw away 30 years for a one night stand.
Yes you can. It's called having character. It's called having morals. It's called having ethics. I know where I stand on the issue of abortion. If I'm in that situation I know the exact decision that I'll make. Because I know my morals, values, and ethics have guided my life. I will act in accordance with them. Fyi... I am pro-choice.
@@ineedhoez I understand and respect your opinion and position on the matter. I'm speaking for me personally, I never say what I would or wouldn't do in any given situation until I'm faced with it. That has guided me for my entire life. So, cheating, abortion, murder, etc. are all the same to me. I can't say what I'd do until I'm in it. God Bless! ❤
@@ineedhoez there's actually a very interesting experiment in psychology called the Milgram shock experiment that studies the conflict people have between following orders from authority figures and your own conscience. Long story short, the majority of people went against their own conscience and "hurt" another person because they were told to do so by an authority figure. This is a *very* basic summary of the experiment and there are many variations of this experiment, many replications and criticism too. But the point is that even though the moral compass of many of them was telling them that it was wrong (they were showing signs of stress and being uncomfortable obeying), they kept doing it because of the situation they were put in. In conclusion, our minds are a mystery and it's really hard to tell how would we react in any given situation because of it. Maybe you're right and you'll keep your convictions completely solid in even the most conflicting situation, but i think it's most likely that our brains would make an informed decision the moment we arrive in a situation considering all factors, including our own moral values. Sometimes they win, sometimes they won't.
Ok Loni, YOUR MAN can cheat on YOU and you can tolerate it 🙃. As for other women who HAVE respect for themselves, cheating (even just one time) is something you should tell your partner.
Mike Carter you don’t even know me PERSONALLY, so you can’t conclude that about me. That’s ok, I stated my peace, as did you. Have a good one and stay blessed!
Your missing the other side to this. If it was only a one time thing telling the truth is the selfish thing to do. The cheater had to come clean cause they can't live with the guilt ruining the relationship. If its not a one time thing the cheater should tell the truth and that relationship should end immediately. Cheaters are often selfish people and its rarely a one time thing.
I would never tell anyone how to be in their own relationship but for me, (I don't have kids, but if I did) I wouldn't stay with my husband if he cheated even if we had kids because not only would I want to show my kids what a healthy marriage looked like, I would want them to know how to avoid an unhealthy one AND I would want them to know that they should be with someone who deserves them, who makes them happy, and who respects them and their feelings and their lives together not to step out on me.
@Galva Tron yes it does, if the two of them dont have a good relationship it will cause the kids to be raised in a toxic environment. If you cheat you ruin your family life
Cheaters lie and cheat multiple times and they will still say, “Hey, I’m human. I make mistakes sometimes.” The word “mistake” downplays how horrible the action of cheating is. I don’t believe cheating is a mistake especially when you’re doing it repeatedly. You know what you’re doing is wrong when you cheat. But out of selfishness and lack of self-control, people cheat anyways because they’re more concerned with gratifying themselves than respecting their partner and relationship. Therefore, cheating is a deliberate wrongdoing and not a “mistake.”
Honestly I understand what Adrienne was trying to say. She is not endorsing cheating I think what she was trying to say is that if you cheat it’s bad enough but when you cheat and lie about it that’s a different level if betrayal.
Galva Tron if being a little girl as u said means that I know the value of myself & what I deserve than I am a little girl allll daaaayy lonnngg I'll leave the lack of self respect for a women like u 😘
I’m sorry... number one... in a relationship... you should be able to one : talk about anything everything whether it’s good or bad & two : tell each other the truth even if it’s good or bad... if you cheat on me that’s one thing k but if you cheat and you don’t confess or own up to it with remorse then that’s another caveat on top
*love & light to everyone reading this! your thoughts create your reality, so remember to replace fear with FAITH, stay home, & WASH YA DAMN HANDS* 🦠🧼🕊
Adrienne said, “You at least had enough respect to tell me” GIRL BYE!!!👋🏻 He didn’t have enough respect for you to not do it in the first place, how about you respect yourself and have 0 tolerance for it. There’s no such thing as “accidentally cheating” cheating is a choice you don’t just “-accidentally” fall on it. Man girls now a days be making they own excuses to validate why they should stay with the guy😂😂
Yeah I agree. I'm not going to praise you for doing the bare minimum or even consider taking you back because you did the right thing and told me. However it does make it easier to forgive like she was saying.
SassmastaT girl I’ve seen you under at least 4 comments 💀cheating in a relationship and people’s feelings are a joke and it’s disrespectful and not funny
Is loni pretending to be sleep while Adrienne is talking? I’m sorry that would drive me crazy. You don’t have to agree with me, but don’t disrespect me. When she said “I’m not breaking up my happy home for a one night stand” You already did that when you had the one night stand 😂😂. Now you gotta hope you don’t run into the person again, and cover your tracks for the rest of your life. That just seems like a lot of work
Not that I’m condoning cheating .... but I think she was coming from this angle - sometimes people admit to cheating to clear their own conscience.... the cheater has to live with the guilt for the rest of the marriage .... she’s saying it’s better that way than breaking up a home ... with kids and all that ...... it’s way easier to walk away from a boyfriend .... but a husband and kids not so easy and it’s a lot more damage
Man if only this show was just Adrienne Jeanie and Tamera. Can’t stand how Loni is always rolling her eyes. And let’s not start with Amanda and Tamar. They need to stop adding people.
"I might even consider to stay with you because you at least had enough respect to tell me the truth." Yeah, HELL no. There's no damn consideration there.
But didn't had enough respect not to cheat in the first place, but according to Adrienne logic there is respect because you tell me : Hi honey am home , I cheat today Adrienne: ok babe at least you tell me . #respect.
What was Loni's reaction here?! I found it super disrespectful, and a real shame because the convo was actually going well before the petty interruptions.
Totally agree Adrienne! It’s not fair to the other person, they should know what’s going on so they can make their own decision on whether they should continue the relationship. It’s deceitful not to tell your partner about your cheating escapades and it’s a health risk too. I do not agree with Dr. Ruth on this one at all. Whether it was a one night stand that wasn’t planned or a weekly intentional thing. I believe in being transparent. That stuff will always come to light. Agree with Jeannie too, set the standard from the beginning.
Adrienne: you wouldn't want to know Loni: that's your (his) business ???? Mc-scuse me?! Um if we are in a committed, EXCLUSIVE monogamous relationship, sweetie that IS MY BUSINESS.
Cheating is NEVER a mistake. It's a CHOICE. You CHOSE to get that drunk. You CHOSE to flirt with somebody. You CHOSE to have sex with them. You can not put the blame on alcohol like, "Oh, I was drunk, I'm sorry!" NO. What's the saying? Drunk actions, sober thoughts? Or drunk words, sober thoughts? It applies. Getting drunk does not change you as a person, it just reveals what kind of person you are without filters. I'm definitely with Jeannie and Adrienne, especially Jeannie. It's unforgivable and a definite dealbreaker.
Lately loni just wants to be the one in the group with a different opinion. I don’t think something like that should stay a secret , if it happened, where would the respect be for your partner?
I actually agree because cheating is not an accident. You know what you're doing do, so I'm going to willingly and knowingly cheat on my man then go tell on myself? For what?
I liked this topic! these relationship ones are the very best and makes THE REAL stand out compared to other daytime talk. adore these topics. ok so a part of me understands what loni is saying, like I get it. but I wouldn't be able to live with myself, also questioning my man always wondering and not knowing............. NAHHHH couldn't do it
i mean yeah, you should always tell your partner if you cheat...but how about just don't cheat? and if someone is low enough to cheat in the first place, they are probably low enough to not apologize as well!
Cheating is wrong, although I’ve known people who feel like they can’t end the relationship because the other depends on them to an extreme extent. Quite scary that one can’t be honest and say I’m not happy and don’t want to be in this relationship anymore.
@ well that's horrible of them to do so. It's not right at all. Some girls don't cheat tho I'm with my man 5 years since I'm a teen and we would never dream of doing that to each other.
I agree with Loni. If it was a one time thing and you regret it and it’s not going to happen again then I wouldn’t tell. But this can only go through if you love them and if you really regret it because Adrian is also right when she says that it could happen again and it’s true but it wouldn’t happen again if it was a mistake and something that is not going to continue or ever happen again.
I feel like I would forever have in my head " *he cheated.* " and that would NOT be good for MY mental and emotional HEALTH. I would forgive him but I know I would never forget. He tells me he loves me ? " *He told her the same thing* " He kisses me ? " *He definitely kissed her too* " * PLUS ( based on my own self love and RESPECT ) I would have broken that promise to disrespect myself like that...not going to happen.
Loni is being real.. Adrienne and jeanie talk a lot of game.. but reality is Freddy cheated and Isreal carried on affairs.. so don't be judging Lonis reaction
When Adrienne was saying that it tempts the person to repeat it again and Loni said “not if they’re a good person”. I don’t know if they’re a good person if they both cheat on their partner AND keep it from them? Sorry, can’t do it.
It's very questionable where Loni is concerned, something don't sit right . I think they once had a love Triangle and Loni is still "low key" hook. On Adam.
cheating is deff a deal breaker for me, but like A said, I will respect you a LITTLE more if I was told rather than finding out. I still might have to leave though
People like Loni think they can get away with being mean to others, because it will be considered as a joke... well there’s always some truth in every joke!
My conscious would bother me if I cheated. I’d probably get drunk, spill the beans and regret it in the morning. Now I’m single and stalking him in my army fatigue outfit hiding in the bushes out side of his house begging to get him to come back. It’s just not worth it. Don’t put yourself in compromising situations. That one nut ruined your whole life. Was it worth it? .... I think not.
Loni was the only one who was being honest. Lots of people would not risk their stable relationship for some ONS with a random person that they will NEVER see again. Especially if you have kids or a house together. Not saying hiding it is right but I understand why some would consider it. A ONS with someone you know is different because that is very personal and you are not just cheating sexually but also emotionally. Personally I think that you should tell, even if it is for the sake of your partner's health. Honesty is key and you would probably want your partner to tell you as well. Somehow Tamera annoys me. She always acts so holy. Everyone has a dark side to them. Unleash the beast girl!
Miss Honey Never Came I feel like her dark side is her freaky side with her husband. Some people actually have a conscience and think before they make a decision. That’s not being holy. Loni was low key being disrespectful.
It is never okay to cheat , and if you do you need to tell your partner because , like Adrienne said , they deserve to have that knowledge to decide what they want to don. I see why Loni’s relationships haven’t worked out .
I agree to Loni and Dr Ruth. If it was truly and once off thing that you truly regret and would never do again keep that to yourself I don’t want to know about it!
I definitely DO NOT agree with Loni on this one. Pretty much when you don’t tell it’s a selfish choice and selfishness ruins relationships, you shouldn’t be in a relationship if you are going to keep cheating to yourself
Hell yes you do! Worse than cheating is lying or omitting that you cheated. It changes the vibes even if you dont say and actually makes it worse. Honesty is the best policy otherwise its not a real relationship. Period.
The reason that Dr Ruth said u shouldn't always tell-is the reason Tamera described, when she was saying she would feel guilty, etc., because of that selfishness of needing to get it off ur conscious-to make urself feel better by being "honest"- that's not helpful to the other partner. But in most cases i think u should be honest-honest with urself on if u really want to be w/the person u're cheating on and honest w/ur partner.
Thank you for this. Telling the truth because of feeling guilty is the most selfish thing you could do. If it was a one time thing you should live with that guilt, not ruin your relationship and completley destroy your partners feelings and well being.
Well I obviusly you shouldnt confess to get the guilt of youre chest. But I fell like hiding cheating is selfish because yiu are taking away youre partners decision if they want to stay or leave the relationship. I also fell like many people say that thay are lying because they want to spare their supose the pain but in reality they are lying to protect themselfs and their place in the relationship.
Loni, cheating is not a mistake, it's a CHOICE. It doesn't matter if you were drunk or sober or if it was a one night stand or ongoing occurrence. Adrienne hit it right on the head--your partner is entitled to knowing about your actions so that they can decide for themselves whether or not they want to stay with you! Lying by omission is STILL lying!
Think of the emotional turmoil one suffers after a partner's infidelity; the betrayal felt, the broken trust, the depression and grief it can cause an entire family including the breaking up of the family that the couple spent years building. Think of the people who would be impacted which includes, the extended family. Is it truly worth putting your partner, your kids, your partner's family and your family through that trauma if it only happened once and you are utterly devastated, heart-broken, remorseful and you know it will never happen again? Not telling isn't about saving yourself. It's about saving your partner the pain of questioning 'Does he love me? Will he do it again?' And from reading the comments I want to add this: A person, whether male or female, has their reasons for staying in a relationship after infidelity and it doesn't make him/her weak or says that she/he has low self esteem. The person shouldn't be shamed for it.
You cheating on me is betrayal! I love Adrienne, I see what she's saying, and I partly agree, BUT just because someone's honest doesn't mean I'd consider staying with you. Sometimes, they'll be honest because they WANT you to break up with them.
If you love someone and you cheat on them, I believe the love you have for the person will compel you to confess. Because betraying someone you really love will generate a healthy amount of guilt and conviction, and you won't be able to look at the person and not think about the wrong you've committed. It will, at the very least, make you try your level best to make things right between you and your partner, even if they don't forgive you. Again, that's if you genuinely, deep down in your soul, love someone. However, if your significant other discovers your cheating, and then you start apologizing and begging and crying about how it was a mistake, and you're sorry, I'm not likely to believe the person. Because most people who cheat and never get caught, keep cheating until they do. It's almost never a one and done situation. Once you've gotten away with it once, the thrill of it when inspire you to continue to tempt fate. Most people who get busted cheating are not sorry they cheated, they're sorry they got caught. And even in their tears and request for forgiveness they're not thinking about how they hurt you, but how THEIR life now is going to be forever affected by you now knowing they cheated. Which is why they kept the first time they cheated a secret to begin with.
I agree with Jeannie, Dont play with my heart. On the other hand Adrienne also makes a good point honesty doesn't soften the blow but it may help your plea case whenever i decide if im leaving. The bigger issue is why is there not a conversation had between couples prior to all the cheating about maybe exploring the possibilities sex has to offer.
I think loni’s view point is the odd one out of the other 3 and she’s tired of it lol I also think she doesn’t like how “perfect” tam comes off but tam is actually being herself.
Interesting that she would be seen as perfect because she has discipline and self-control. People out here doing whatever without considering the consequences and blaming it on being human.
Jessi M. There’s an old girl chat when tam was talking about how she doesn’t do booty calls and after a certain time she doesn’t answer her phone and Lonie got really defensive and said some rude remarks. You gotta dig it up. It’s when Tamar was on the show.
