Should you be EMBARRASSED to spend $49,000 on a Kia Stinger GT? 

Very good review and take on the Stinger. We got one (a GT2 in the US in that awesome red) a few months ago and love it! We took it on a 1,500 mile road trip and it's an amazing GT car, so comfortable and got 3 MPG over the highway estimate surprisingly. We've owned BMW, Porsche and Audi and the Stinger holds it's own. We just got a free set of Harman Kardon wireless headphones today from Kia for being one of the first to own the car. Thanks Kia!

Got a chroma red gt limited. Do i regret? Nope this is the best car i have ever owned. Well then again my previous cars were cadillac srx and genesis coupe. Sorry to disappoint kia haters but i am not embarassed :)

Throttle House I own a black stinger and I love it. I wouldn't have it any other way. I owned a Kia optima and a Lexus 250. I must say, I'll buy the stinger 10 times over.

G70 review? Where is it?

I have reviewed it yes. Look back about 5 videos.

some people are true enthusiast for a certain badge in front of their car

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Henderjc It's the eyes that pain us, but the creaky around the windows and sunroof that burns our ears.

Henderjc, not true. Had a killed in action for 10 years-unfortunately. Vehicle was junk. Never again. I have been a car enthusiast for 30 years.

I want to chime in here. Dont know the age of any of you, but when I was growing up in the 60s and 70s, Datsun now Nissan, Toyota and Honda were the biggest pos on the road, and look what they became. Kia and Hyundai are no different. If you look at the engineers of Kia and Hyundai, you'll find that they all have designed cars for the prestigious car makers in the world. Look up Peter Schryer(sp), he engineered and developed the Stinger. I own two Stinger GT2's, one red and one blue, his and hers, and these cars are pure beasts. Even at stock they are beasts, I've chipped both of mine to over 400 hp, and now they're monsters. What I'm saying here is knock it off with the past stigma, Both Kia and Hyundai are very well engineered and excellent automobiles now.

Boxing Vortex except for Kia

He's trying to give comparisons to known brands and cars people relate with already.

@@dezzahayes6492 troll

totally agree with you. "is like", "feels like" ect means nothing.

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Akshay Patel pull up in an 06 bmw m3 and ur kia won’t get shit

@@alexzhou7 Only way you'll pull up on that 06 M3 is on the top of a tow truck.. same as your shitty mustang in your photo... 😂

@@alexzhou7 u got rekt

Bry Guy my thoughts exactly.

Yes

Bry Guy not if it's a viper

@@Pharoh_95 Still will buy a Stinger over a crappy Viper, idc what kind of performance it has, it's still a Dodge.

Jared Shelton ok bro whatever makes you happy I guess 😂🤷‍♂️

I disagree. Look at Cadillac with their ATS-V and CTS-V. Poor sales volume yet excellent cars. Brand image is extremely difficult to shake off.

That's a really smart and a strong point. I believe Kia will become like Infiniti in a few years because of what you said. The question is, will they create a sub-brand name like Nissan did with Infiniti or just leave it with Kia.

Kia is not going to shake it. Not a49 k anyway. A friend got 12 k off the loaded one and so can you.Dont pay anywhere near the Msrp. You can get 7k off the 4cyl.

Exactly

clarification, the BMW price I referenced was for a BMW 6 Series Hatchback

@@Brian-hw9vl well, those cars you mentioned are in a different class. I really like the new Supra, and I wouldn't mind owning both. The Stinger is a good value for its class. Jim's got a point about the warranty too. German cars are wonderful when they're working, but appallingly expensive to repair and maintain.

Cool story bro😂 thanks.

Hahaha! Nice comparison. Stinger GT is a BEAST!!!!

I'm not quire sure a 6 series hatchback is really in the Kia's class, it's probably closer to a 3 series GT or the 4 series sedan? Regardless, at $70k, I'd take an M3 over a Stinger GT2 because in my obituary, "died in his M3" reads better than "died in his Kia". That being said, BMW's warranty is short compared to most other companies, and the only reason I bought one is because I love how it drives. I preferred it to everything else I test drove (I test drove the whole class, and while Audi was solid it looks too much like a bar of soap). The AWD of the Kia isn't something to overlook, and as a daily driver the reliability and notable comfort/feature gain of the Kia vs the slight tradeoff in performance is a no-brainer. To be honest, I'd rather just do a barebones BMW and buy a second car for features and comfort (maybe I grab a nicely accessorized Stinger lolol). I've since learned (despite everyone's warning) that features in a BMW are simply problems waiting to happen later on down the road. In terms of reliability: I got a new turbo in my BMW at 40k, new transmission at 70k and had to do timing chain assembly replacement at 75k - all under warranty, but just barely. The turbo and transmission alone would have cost half the car. Everyone's response is: you probably get in and floor it in the winter, or, you probably don't change the oil enough etc. No, I take insanely good care of my car and I don't even think about pushing it until its loosened up. I don't just wait for the oil temp to get up, I wait until it feels ready and the engine is warmed up. I'm at 90k miles now and looking at replacements; as much as I've become a BMW fanboy it's nice to know there are respectable options out there which aren't plagued by untenable tradeoffs. I'll certainly look at the Kia and the G70, though I get the feeling I'll probably just get an M2 and something else to daily drive or take on my constant trips between NJ and NH. Right now I'm leaning towards getting another Prius and slapping an M badge on the back.

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Why does it have LSD (acid) tabs attached to it? Not complaining just weird

What color did you end up with bro?. I like the white but the rear side reflectors bug me so I'd probably go with the red to try and hide them✔️

and it's twin-twinscroll turbo, not just a single twinscorll turbo.

Huh? I didn’t say there was one. At about 2:08 I say “thanks to THOSE twin scroll turbochargers...”. Did I say one turbo somewhere else in the video? I mean it’s possible... I DID say it has the wrong number of gears so clearly I’m a nincompoop.

Well I'm an idiot, sorry for that, English is not my first language. I enjoy your videos very much!

I was wondering who buys those brand new Miatas haha

Could you Tell us a little more on what bugs you the most about it.. is it a automatic? Year?

I also have a 2020 kia forte5 gt limited and guess what I'm trading it for a 2017 240i sorry man the German cars are unbeatable

@@nezarbenomar2058 Aaaand why should I care what car you get?

@@runerifter are you jealous 😂

@@nezarbenomar2058 Why would I be jealous over a bottom-of-the-barrel BMW? You car-enthusiast wannabe kids are somethin else smh. 🙄

@@runerifter don't be mad we are here only to share opinions and thoughts otherwise what is the purpose of commenting a youtube video

Cookie Biscoe id stick with Benz

b No regrets. I love this car.

Cookie Biscoe how much is your monthly price and much was due at signing?

Cookie Biscoe So you drove off with $0 due at signing and $580 monthly with taxes and fees rolled in?

TheGamingAudiophile Yes. The MSRP was 52,000. I was able to get $10,00 off with rebates, and negotiating. I also had a 700 plus credit score.

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Bob Goudreau Too many creaky noises around the door frame and sunroof.

@@hiramrosajr8231 infiniti sucks

@@normt5463 thats not even true. I have a stinger gt and 0 creeks and noises. Stop spreading lies

Norm T Not sure about the door frame and sunroof, but one of the big issues of the Stinger was the hatch rattling, which you can get fixed up for free at a dealer.

Please be 500hp and have a variable exhaust by 2023...

Ha, in your dreams mate. I've raced these Stingers in my 335i and they've all eaten my dust! Hope to see you on the road so I can put your shitty KIA in its place. My rear view mirror

@@GaryDownes lololol is your bmw stock or did you do some work? If its stock i will take your offer. Lol ridiculous statement. Your 335 cant even beat a is350.

@@GaryDownes not another BMW bullshitter

@@GaryDownes you probabaly "raced" the 4cyl version. Nothing to brag about, mate.

I'm waiting for when I can race a BMW because my Stinger IS modded and it will destroy. Plus I wont have to take it to a shop to have it fixed after.

Patty B you are so right. I bought a 2018 Sorento V6 in November, I tried to do the truck thing but couldn’t handle it. I gave my wife my new Sorento and Bought a Stinger GT AWD. Loving it, driving is fun again.

Chuckles9191991 thanks for the confirmation of my thinking, zippy = fun...Can’t wait to see the 2019!

Only 500 being made .... Good luck! I love the upgrades coming such as 360* camera, wireless charging etc.....hopefully in future all Stinger GT will have full equipment line...

I heard that the Atlantica was cancelled completely

@@GameShowFan9001 yeah I think 19 gets 360 cam, wireless charging and heated rear seats....rumor has it 2020 gets k900 instrument cluster (virtual)

It would be better with 7 speed dct!

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Plenty of people are paying $50+ for the Stinger GT (1&2), you just gotta know how to bring it down. I myself paid $45,350 OTD for my Stinger GT1 AWD, whereas with sticker + the options I threw in should have been $53k OTD. Most dealers know you can ask to see the invoice cost and offer that for the car and they will agree, then you haggle from there. But most car buyers aren't aware of the invoice trick so they never know to ask, they usually assume you have to pay MSRP. You don't. Those of us who are getting our Stinger GT's for $45k know what to ask, whereas there are plenty of people who don't know and happily pay $50+ for the Stinger.

We paid 45k for ours brand new. Plenty of people are buying the loaded stinger gt.

Never pay MSRP... never

Got my GT1 for less than $40k :)

VR43000..... I disagree with your opinion and comment. Dealerships cheat people most of the time or when they can. If you don't like the hours and the customers then change jobs. If dealerships wanted to be fair and treated with respect and kindness then they would put a fair sales price on all cars and just not negotiate period! Does Chick-Fil-A negotiate the price of their food? Or any other restaurant? .... I do agree if you came into my business, whatever it might be and asked to see my invoice, I would just say NO. Then I might ask, Can I see your checkbook and savings accounts? Yes, I think that is rude and crude but the Dealerships started this war with their unfair practices. Do you think it is fair to sell the same car to 6 different people for 6 different prices? In the same day with the same circumstance in all the deals? I worked at a Chevy dealership for a while and was a service writer. They even treated people differently with warranty claims because they could get by with it more often than not! .... And there does or did exist at least one dealership in South Georgia that sales cars with the one price take it or leave it. I have bought two cars from them myself and known several other people to buy from them They only sold GM and Ford back then but I am not positive they are still open. I wanted to buy another GM product from them back in 1996 but the Chev model I ordered came in twice with defects from the factory and I have not bought any GM model since. I refused the two cars and didn't even want them to make the repairs to correct the problems. I felt like if a new car shows up to the customer and has visual and mechanical problems, what is everything else going to be like with the car down the road?

IneedMoney or a less optioned rwd stinger.

We don’t get the RWD GT in Canada..

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IneedMoney it who is going to be happy paying $50,000 on car that makes creaky noises and sunroof?

I'd take the G70 over the Stinger any day

yea. That AWD system makes it heavier.

Couple reviews of the RWD stinger are great. Apperently they tested it in snow and it performed exceptionally well with the standard tires Kia puts on.

Ebrake launch awd is the fastest. 4.29.😳

I feel bad for the people who pay the same money, for a worse car with a fancy badge.

Ford will stop making cars.

Why review a discontinued model/brand?

They just released a 2019, and have 2020 in the works as well. They also said they will keep the Fusions in the future line-ups, but will change it up.

@@throwaway177 they are discontinuing the Fusion. It's easy to look up. The only cars they are keeping is Mustang and Focus hatch.

Michael Dooby and three times the amount of money spent on future maintenance

J. Danny if you have enough money to afford a 50k car, then you should also be fiscally responsible enough to afford 1-2k in annual maintenance

Why didn't you succeed in giving one example then?

Zephyr So which interior exactly did KIA copy? Their infotainment system was ranked 3rd best in Europe btw. After BMW and Audi. Not that it matters. Infotainment systems have become redundant since Android Auto / Apple CarPlay is the new benchmark. Both are standard on the Stinger.

@Zephyr The stinger is a gt, not a muscle car. I'll gladly take it over any car with 'American quality'. If I wanted that I could buy the cheaper Stinger and place a few rattlers on random places in the interior.

And lmao at the mercedes resemblance. I drive a C350e for work. The Stinger isn't even close to looking the same. If using circles is copying for you, your standards are low or your just a closeted racist that can't see past the fact every car nowadays looks like some other car if you want it to. In the end it caracteristicaly looks like a KIA and you can recognise it from a mile away.

@Zephyr The interior of a C63 looks exactly the same as any other C class. It only gets more carbon inlays.

I had a 15 Q50S and was very much interested in the RedSport. I went with the Stinger for a few reasons. 1. The sensors on the RS limit the amount of power you'll ever be able to get out of it. Better off getting the non-RS as it's able to be tuned way beyond the RS. 2. No upgrade to the infotainment - NONE - No apple car play or android auto and the Bose system is dated. 3. The Stinger has more room - bigger back seat - more cargo space 4. The suspension is too stiff - The Stinger GT is exactly that, a GT - very comfortable 5. Better warranty 6. More stylish (This is my OPINION) 7. KIA actually worked with me on the price - Got the GT1 for about $40k - Infiniti would not budge on over $50k for the RS Those were my deciding factors - Oh, and stock vs stock, the Stinger is barely edged by the RS from 0-60 - barely

you know almost nothing about cars my friend. Yes the civic is shit.

@@homeremote8311 I know it's shit lol we agree

@@bronzewaffle2310 how? I didn't say new. With depreciation even tho it's still expensive I think you get alot more for your money

@@HybRiDThEoRy619 I actually agree with you on the sensor. Also the warranty , well because it's a Kia it's there selling point. As well as looks it's subjective and to me it the stinger is ugly as fuck and the q50 is sexy. Price wise I think the dealer pricing is better where I'm at for the q50. I'm not saying the I hate the Kia, I'm saying for the price I won't touch a unproven car. 35k to 40k is the sweet spot for these new not 56k. These will depreciate like all Kia's and be picked up at more attractive price, 25k in about 3 years or 4

Grammar matters!

With a 100k or 7 year warranty, I think it is fine.