Doing so many of these long takes in one cut really speaks to your expertise. I don't have a serious interest in most of the cars you've reviewed in this series, but I still watch because of your attention to detail. Thank you for your hard work!
At least the new 2.5L turbo is directly derived from their ground-up truck-designed 2.7L. It'll be definitively more reliable and overbuilt than, say, Ford's 2.3L in the Ranger or Explorer.
Chrysler seems to have a desire for difficult battery locations 97 intrepid battery buried way down behind front bumper. Pain in the ___. Talked to a guy 2 years ago with a newer dodge van. 2 batteries. High priced pair. Said he’s had to replace them twice. Now under seat. Not for me.
@@jimbanter 😄😄😄😆😆 Brotherly love !!!!! I'm sure your brother isn't jealous of you ""Keeping It Affordable"" I am 99.99999% SURE he is happy for you 😄😄😄😄😄😄
"The engine is old and underpowered" 5th gen 4Runner has entered the chat. I drove a previous gen Grand it the 3.6/8spd, it felt like a rocket compared to my 4Runner, I was doing nearly 80mph before I knew it. It belongs to my brother, he wanted me to test drive it because he thought he felt a driveline vibe. I said I don't think I can help you, this thing drives SO much smoother than my 4R.
The difference is that the 1GR stood the test of time. It’s bulletproof. You can’t say that about the Jeep’s V6. Also look at the interior build quality starting @ 22:32, this won’t be happening in any 4runner. Lastly the 4runner is a body on frame vehicle that can go anywhere and handle abuse. The Grand Cherokee is unibody and not really built for off-roading.
@@electrikoptik Toyota fan-boy spotted. 🤣My dude... Please learn a thing or two about cars. The Pentastar has been in a TON of vehicles and has been absolutely solid. You can virtually call the Pentastar bullet-proof. And a Toyota guy is ragging on Jeep's interior quality?!?! That's a hoot. Toyota's are GARBAGE on the interiors (and that extends to Lexus'). Cheap, rattly, poorly built. This new Grand Cherokee is shit, to be sure. But it's just as shit as the crap Toyota's been churning out for the past decade (at least).
@@cw4623 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 everything about Fiat jeep is pure trash compared to a Toyota except in horsepower. Especially one built in Japan like the 4Runner. Cheap interior? Simple, yes, cheap no. You must be a fan of plastic wood and piano black finishes. 🤣 Don’t ever compare your fiat trash to a jdm when it comes to longevity or build quality.
So was the 3cyl out of a Geo Metro if you want to go to the "aviation engine" route. I'll take a Toyota over most but your logic needs checked. Example, Hyundai makes great cargo ships yet that also does not translate to a history of automotive greatness.@@dbonilla29869
I rented this suv for a road trip and fell in love with it. Lets face it, these days car manufacturers are trying to cut costs anywhere they can so every car on the market is going to have its flaws. The comfort level is great and ride quality is also quiet and good. The technology in this engine is old but doesnt mean its bad. The Engine having old tech i understandable. Port injection has worked for decades and its a refined system. I guess you can easily say. If it aint broke, dont fix it. Nice review over all. The battery location really threw me off. Theres enough space in the engine bay for a battery. Oh well 🤷♂️
Yes but if you don’t maintain they become a nightmare pretty fast. They also like to leak oil not a terrible engine but definitely not the best on the market.
I have the V-6 Pentastar in my Ram 1500, but it has the e-torque system. It is used as a work truck for the most part. It is pretty quick on take off and it passes other cars well. I have never thought of it as slow. It's certainly quick enough for a pickup truck and gets up to speed very well. Now it replaced a Toyota Tacoma 4 banger with an automatic transmission. Now that truck was slow. I often felt I should open the door and use my left foot to help it get up hills.
I bought a 2023 Jeep GC Altitude edition in this red velvet color back in October 2022. We now have 31,000 miles on the odometer and it has been trouble free from day 1. First three oil changes were paid for by Chrysler and one recall to repair the boots holding the rear springs. I love the 3.6 engine as I had a 2016 Chrysler 200C with the 3.6 and she gave me 140,000 miles of trouble free driving. Traded her in on the new Jeep GC. MPG on the Jeep has been 23.1 average which for the size of the vehicle is very acceptable. The engine does not consume any oil between the appx 9500 mile interval for changing out for new fluids. Overall we are 95% happy with our new Jeep. Only disappointment is the paint chips very easily off the front end from road debris.
How does the button for the rear hatch make no sense? It makes it easier for everyone, especially short people. You got 3 seconds to move outta the way. I’ve always thought this was a good idea.
Easier for my younger kids who I and the wife constantly send to get groceries from the back of the truck and this is so convenient for them who just stand in the side and press button instead of over reaching
He keeps lamenting about the engine being old and simple and I'm thinking great. The last thing I want are the new over-engineered engines that break the moment a circuit frys. If they've been using it since longer than 2016 it tells me that it's probably doing a good job. As far as the actual repair headaches, that's why I leave it to guys like you. Better yet, buy right and don't hold them too long and you usually won't have to see a mechanic. Leave that to someone else.
I did almost 800 miles nonstop on my 23 Jeep GCL overland with 3.6 V6. It was packed with 4 adults, a toddler and 4 large suitcases along with stroller. It was raining heavily for at least 400 miles. I never felt underpowered or unsafe while cruising at 65-75 MPH given the visibility. It clocked 24 MPG. The drive was so smooth that my little one slept for most part of the journey. I had a 2008 BMW 328i, 2019 Cherokee, and 2022 RAV4. After putting 12000 miles in less than 6 months, I have decided to keep this Jeep as long it can run.
@@fiyangga.yanggiri-hala It is, because it is a lie. 23 gallon tank, 26 mpg =600 miles of range. Add in a full interior with people and stuff, and efficience is even lower. Typical lying Jeep owner, trying to justify their $100,000 purchase.
Yes@@fiyangga.yanggiri-hala. We started early morning from Atlanta, GA and reached Dallas, TX by the sunset, with a refill/refreshment break of 20-30 minutes at Shreveport, LA. Now, at 16000 Miles and still going strong.
Well@@user-de4jk8vj4c, you may have your reasons to hate Jeep, and that's ok. I did not put $100K, I got mine at around $62K. We took a refill/refreshment break at Shreveport, LA for 20-30 minutes. I sold my 2022 RAV4 in less than 6 months so need not to justify anything.
Fantastic Review as always. I would love to see your input and review of the new 2024 Toyota Grand Highlander when you are able to. Keep up the great work. :)
The button is on the side so that kids and smaller adults can reach it. So, you are picking up a child at sports, they can dump their gym bag and close themselves. I'm not sure that was the intention - but that is how it works out for us.
That's a great point! Also, I find it more efficient to put stuff in the cargo area and hit the button while rounding the corner towards drivers door. Only my right arm is under the hatch to close it, instead of my whole body. Also, you are already close to the button after loading cargo area, so it is less body movement to push button as your already next to it. Small detail, but more efficient, in my opinion, as I do not have to stop moving towards drivers door as I push the button to close hatch.
Chrysler minivans have the button on the side down low for the same reason. Short women and children who can't reach a button high in the air on the bottom of the hatch/liftgate.
I genuinely highly respect your opinions. But you are off on this video, far too negative. The GC is extremely solid with its vast capabilities and is also very reliable and has always had above average resale values. And the current generation is no exception.
you are clearly biased toward Toyota. You like the old school Tacoma TRD pro , but you dislike the "old school" 3.6 pentastar.......which by the way was voted one of the 10 best engines. what do you expect from a Toyota mechanic!
He’s reviewing a Laredo Altitude which is very close to a base model Laredo. The interior materials are completely different in the Overland, Summit and Summit reserve trims. Also the plastic around the wheel-wells, is painted on those trim levels.
@@faheemabbas3965too many dummies keep buying them. you really can’t feel sympathy for people who proudly spend a huge fraction of their money on a pile of crap
My wife bought a 2021 L new with this engine, has about 25k now. Drove it 4k miles in one trip with three adults and three kids last summer. No issues besides at first wireless Android Auto dropping the connection but that was fixed with a software update. Had a tow hitch receiver put on to get some extra storage in the back via basket, and also put on roofrack crossbars. It seems pretty jumpy to me not slow at all and can easily pass other cars, but individual cars can vary. Enjoy driving it when I take it out. Great car overall. We'll end up keeping it
My JGC 07 Laredo V6 3.7 4WD just surpassed 223K. She still runs amazing no noises no funny smells no ringing no dingdong sounds no oil leaks I’m always on top of preventative maintenances and she never left me stranded ever. I’ll run her till the wheels falls off then maybe I’ll pick up one of these down the line when it’s used w 40K miles in it 😇
Same here 07 2wd v6 3.7 205k miles rebuilt transmission 5yrs ago runs smooth no issues so far an properly maintained , if it dies just have new motor replacement to it an keep on Jeep'n
We bought a 2024 Grand Cherokee L overland a few weeks ago! So far we love it! its not underpowered at all actually the opposite feels pretty peppy! We really enjoy riding in it I do recommend it to a family of 5 or 6! Happy new year!!! Ours has the 3.6 with an 8 speed transmission.
We are buying the GC Limited this week. We were happy with the performance on the test drive. Wife only lives 1 mile or so from work so should be pretty reliable long term. I have a Wrangler and have never had issues with it. It is a 2017. The new GC we are getting is a 24. 25 didn't offer the color she wanted. Midnight Blue.
Very informative. I've been very happy with my 23 GC L. It hasn't felt underpowered at all to me. I thought the old school V6 was a plus. The transmission and engine combo makes this so smooth that shifts are sometimes totally imperceptible.
Agreed. He speaks about how horribly underpowered these are. I completely disagree. My '23 GC with 3.6L has plenty of power. He speaks about how "ancient" the engine is. Like 2016 was from the caveman days.
@@ejhirschberger no the only issue I’ve ever had is with the battery not charging enough due to short trips, and eventually it went dead or dead enough to keep the starter from coming on, and it had to be towed because it couldn’t be jumped with a jump pack. I’ve never had an issue with the radio at all or CarPlay.
it did happend to my 2022 GCL for 2 times. Funny thing is turning off the ignition doesn't really turn the raido off. Only long pressing the power button to truly reboot the system can resolve the issue. @@ejhirschberger
Yes. For USA-made cars the 3.6l (non-direct injected; non-turbocharged; not-so-complicated) engine is a benefit. My parents just bought their GC-L; it's fantastic. You sacrifice power and refinement for decent-ish fuel economy (for a 5,000lb 4x4), 87 octane, and no headaches. The ZF transmission is VERY busy in this SUV but works great with the engine; it never feels underpowered except if you REALLY floor it. It pulled our 5,000lb boat just fine; albeit a tad slow on acceleration. As for modern engine reliability; ask me how I know; my Ford 2.0l Turbo Direct injection engine needed a timing chain VVT phaser job AND Turbo/exhaust manifold job BOTH at 100k. $8,000 in repairs later; I will never buy another "modern" engine. It's old school or EV for me going forward. Turbo+DI (unless it has a Honda or Toyota badge on it) is crap long term and you can't convince me otherwise...
This was very informative, Thanks! I have a 2012 Jeep GC and the more I see of the newer vehicles, the more I want to keep the one I have. It has been fairly reliable and still comfortable to drive. Side note, it has the battery under the passenger seat, but isn't too difficult to change out, unlike say.. the ford escape where you have to remove the air box to even attempt a battery change.
Already bought it without doing my research. I NEED to hear that I've made the right choice. *Edit*😢 Oh well. It's my third Cherokee. The other two have treated me well. Wish me luck!
Good luck. I've heard a few times of the head gasket taking a shit on them. I owned one jgc and never again. Mine blew the head gaskets and wrapped the heads. About 7k in repairs. I got rid of it
😂 I guess this dude doesn’t work on jeeps often. The 3.6l is great it’s known for reliability. And last revise was 2017 when they corrected the oil pump housing. It’s no different than other brands. Companies design there stuff that way so only trained professionals can work on it
These reviews are far more informative for a new car buyer than most other reviews. Not a fan of Stellantis products as they tend to have a lot of issues. Battery under passenger seat is insane...
I agree he gives us what we need to know especially mechanical this would actually make me buy one aside from the Battery thing. Port injection v6 reliable many many of them have 100sk miles
Actually my 2001 Buick LeSabre has its battery under the rear seat and it's perfectly great there. It's 100% vented and the battery is not exposed to excessive engine heat and other factors that would worry me more. Where do you think they put the batteries in a Tesla?
Just too expensive. And confused. In the old days, $35K V8 GCs with the best 4WD with rear lockers and underbody protection were excellent on challenging trails and poorly maintained forest fire trails. Now, like Gs, Land Rovers, LX 600s and Land Cruisers you'd be near crazy to risk your investment where it could be trail damaged or get that fancy interior filthy. These are good for country club parking lots and for parking near the stables. No longer for carting a deer carcass back to camp.
I have the small version not the l. Pentastar v-6 plenty of power 300 horse just under. 2023 for 45,000 out the door with a moonroof leather all safety devices black 20 inch rims and black headliner same color. On the highway I'm getting almost 30 mi to the gallon. I was shocked nothing's perfect but the price range nothing could touch it had at least three other Dodge Chrysler products with the pentastar no trouble thanks for your opinion this is mine!😊
Having owned and loved 3 JGCs, the fit and finish and that piano black center setup(got to always put a towel over that area when the sun angle hits hit) does leave a lot to be desired: but the seat comfort, quietness , power and ride trumps all of me. The open/close button location is most helpful for disabled folks. Excellent report. Thanks!
@@greghale717 Idk, I looked at a couple other car brands and they only offered a black interior and at most 3-5 exterior colors. And a couple of the colors were a couple hundred more in cost.
Not in a million years would I ever buy that piece of junk! Two neighbors of mine are having serious issues with their G.C. it's been nothing but headaches!
Never heard anyone call a 305hp NA v6 underpowered… what an odd statement. Most NA v6 don’t get produce 300hp. My ES350 v6 produces only 267hp yet I never heard it called underpowered.
Mid 7 seconds 0-60 is very adequate- 293 hp from an NA V6 is more than competitive with its peers. I’ve owned 3 GC’s with the 3.6 and I’ve never been in a situation where I needed more power than what was available. There’s plenty of power in reserve if you need to quickly pass somebody or merge in front of fast traffic. This isn’t a race car, and doesn’t need race car power. People are wanting so much power they don’t need- it’s just a waste of fuel. Those of us not drag racing at every stop light will enjoy the smooth power delivery.
The thing with the pentastar is when it does make power it’s screaming at you. Even though it’s designed to be a screamer all day long it’s unnerving listening to its cry’s on the regular, a large SUV like this adds to the effect.
it is funny to hear a Toyota tech say 2016 is old as Toyota dose not have much that is newer in design like the 3.5 v6 gr come out in 2004 and is still used it
I love wathcing your input. You are my bible on cars and I trust you deeply. This is my 3rd Overland. I just leased a new one, 4XE. Wanted to try the new Hybrid. So far, a real winner for me. It reminds me a Range Rover for the poor. Very comfortable, extrememly quite, ride is air, all around, the night riding is just right. The only negetive I have to say, you will need a level 2 charger, if you want to ride it electric, daily. Level 1 is just too slow of a charge. The sound system is like no other I have had in many years of riding. The size of the car is just right for the regular length, not L. I will not buy a car like that cause the Hybrid is very complicated and expensive to repair.
To answer the title question... no. In general I would not suggest anyone to purchase any Stellantis products. I've heard, seen, and have family/friends with newer Stellantis vehicles that are no where near being out of warranty and parts/assemblies have failed or broken already and or the dealership has no idea what the problem is and keeps slapping parts to it which in turn make the owners not have a vehicle for weeks or months. They do look nice and are comfortable. I would even be hesitant to lease one.
"Ancient" does that me unreliable? You use Ancient alot in this video. The 4 liter 6 from 2001 Jeep grand Cherokee is very very "Ancient" engine,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, however it is very very very Reliable engine.
My take is this, after new owners done with bragging about their brand new cars, or have used it for its daily commute for 2 yrs, they don’t care about anything! But they better work! How many people hug & kiss their cars after the first year? Most of us need it to get from pt A to B. Before they pay it off, they already are so tired of it.
I’ve been driving Jeep brand vehicles since 1994. I currently own a Grand Cherokee and a Wrangler Rubicon. I’ve had no issues with my Jeeps. I make sure the maintenance is regularly done. LOVE my Jeeps!
The key to this Jeep is oil changes. I’ve owned several and never had issues at 100k. The transmission is also solid. Compared to my Tacoma it got better fuel mileage and didn’t have timing phaser issues like my Toyota. The key is oil changes. They did screw up the tuneup situation because the motor is definitely set too far back. Overall I think it’s a decent SUV without the needless complications of turbos and cylinder deactivation that Honda and other companies use today.
@@thomasward00 yeah well the new Hondas can’t make it to that bar without head gasket issues. My 2013 Tacoma needed phasers and a timing chain at 80k while my LX 470 runs like a sewing machine at 300k. New tech is not better tech. Emission systems and turbos are both reduce the life of a lot of engines. The key is oil changes and regular maintenance. No company is perfect but I’m just saying my Jeeps have been very reliable unlike my Mercedes and my Toyota and finally my new Honda Motorcycle which is still at the dealership waiting on warranty work.
I watched the whole video, based on what I saw this truck is a mechanic's nightmare. I'd lease one for three years, then throw the keys back. Stellantis went into these thinking let's make repair and maintenance as expensive as possible. The Porsche/Audi/BMW style engineering goes along great with their ridiculous pricing. People forgot what a real Jeep is, real Jeeps were originally meant to be taken apart and put back together rather quickly during wartime. This is just leaseable junk.
NO you should not buy. IMHO it is absolutely ridiculous for Jeep to put this old, under powered engine in a larger modern, new gen suv and the L 3 row too, esp w so many other car makers coming out w new models w newer updated engines also. Honda, Nissan, and Hyundai seem to be sticking w naturally aspirated V6s as well but its still not enough power and torque in this day and age. 300hp and torque at the wheels should be the standard and the only way to do that wo a V8 is with turbos or electric assist. Seems like Jeep is committed to this engine though for the rest of the decade bc its almost in every branded vehicle Stellantis makes except for the Wagoneer which has Jeep's new engine called the Hurricane, a twin turbo inline 6cyl. similar to the new Mazda CX90. i think Ram will get it b4 the GC. Jeep is just too cheap to put it in the new GC now, so I wouldnt go out and buy a new one unless it had this engine. 4xe is expensive and complicated. i think u can still get a 5.7 v8 in L 3 row GC which aint bad if u want v8 power and gas mileage. (unless you want a 90k+ 392/6.4 Wrangler/ridiculous). The Pentastar actually came out in 2011 so it def belongs in the last decade. With that Id still buy a used GC 2014 or newer to avoid the 5 speed. Until they put the Hurricane 3.0 TT in there its just not worth the money to buy a new one unless you have to have the new body style or can afford a 4xe. Its fine if you want a lighter 2 row bottom trim Laredo or Altitude RWD, dont mind less power for driving around town, and not towing or hauling alot of people or gear off road does the new GC make any sense w the outdated Pentastar. Otherwise it seems like a good improvement over the last gen as it should. They just need to lose the high gloss piano black plastic inside. The naming for the 4wd systems is too complicated. Just call Quadratrac1 Quadratrac. I think the Quadratrac2 while marginally better than open diffs is just awd w low range. Its kind of a wasted 2speed Tcase wo a rear limited slip at least. Ive seen the brake traction in 4low and it does not work well crawling up hills. Its very hard on the driveline. Instead call it Quadradrive1 and give it the electronic rear limited slip or just drop it all together and only have two systems, Quadratrac and Quadradrive. Then give the Quadradrive2 system full rear and front selectable lockers you can turn on in low same as the Rubicon. So you then have QuadraTrac as the base awd and QuadraDrive1 and QuadraDrive2 as real off road systems. As a premium offroad trim the Trailhawk should also have QuadraD2 standard as well w a full size spare. An optional QD2 in the Limited and even lower trims wouldnt hurt either as they only have QT1 and you cant get QD2 wo quadralift/air suspension which is unmodifiable. confused yet? well maybe just buy a wrangler if planning on offroad upgrades. Anyway, lots of choices w 8 trims and three 4wd systems w the Pentastar standard across the board unless you switch over to 4xe, which Jeep offers as a separate hybrid GC line itself w 5 similar trims. The Jeep website is listing different 4wd systems as standard in the 4xe line in which none are 2wd. I guess they will get it right someday. Although I have not done it myself... crawling or driving offroad in virtually silent/electric only mode with all the windows down and roof open does sound pretty cool.
AMD is a natural teacher, he has the ability to explain the complex in an easy to understand way. Love these technical reviews from a Master Tech, a quality real-world review is not all about soft touch surfaces but what to expect over long-term ownership. Shows how fast auto technology is moving when he mentions 2016 (7 years ago) as dated/ancient engine design tech.
He is a great mechanic and treats people fairly; with that said, he has no business being a car reviewer. Wrong on so many fronts on this review. Toyota SUV's are slower, less refined and have older engine designs with horrible chintzy interiors. Take for example the 4Runner, talk about a dinosaur design that is very slow (under powered) and just crude. I have personally both vehicles and the GC with the Pentastar will blow the doors off any Toyota SUV, particularly at triple digit speed. Toyota has horrible fuel economy too. The GC will turn 27 on the highway...
I have owned 5 since 1993 great vehicles,2 have been handed down to family members! All 6 cylinders,change the oil ,do required maintenance and they last forever!
I've own a 2002 GC since new. At 190,000 miles it still runs great and looks great. Nothing s been replaced except fluids, a serpentine belt, a vacuum hose, and brake pads
I've got a JGC 1999 Laredo 4.0L the no frills version. It has got electric windows. It has been the faithful work horse, with 197,000klm on the clock. Replaced alternator (which it didn't really need, it was actually a faulty new battery that was causing non starts) crank sensor and front control arms. Cheers from Australia 🦘
I never felt like this engine has not enough power .. and I drive a lot in a mountains..don’t know how did you come to that conclusion..( have to say I only had regular grand Cherokee not grand Cherokee L )
I'm biased, but I'm just not a fan of the new GC. I have a 2015 Jeep Grand Cherokee and still love it. It's actually been very reliable (from my experience, you either get a good one, or you get one that's nothing but problems). I wish sometimes I would have gotten the V8, but current gas prices justify my choice. I must say, that it really only feels underpowered at high speed passing, but she does do 100 mph competently on the highway. Maintenence cost at higher mileage is a downside. The cost of changing spark plugs because of the design is ridiculous and changing the headlight bulbs require bending tricks with hand and wrists (and skin) unless you go through the trouble of removing the airbox. Also, those big shocks- check out the price of just one. Regardless of the quirks, I still love it. Incidently, I recently bought a 1995 Lexus LS 400 to offset the mileage I put on the Jeep. Because of its age and the cost of parts, I really can't complain now about the cost of the Jeep Maintenence.😂😂
I did buy the V8 in my 2021 GC. Was a great decision. You only lose 2 MPG with the V8. I like the fact that i can run 87 octane when I am just running around town in stop and go traffic.
I have a 2014 Grand Cherokee 3.6 rn and, while im fully aware its no sports car, its never felt slow when i need to pass someone. You're definitely right about the ZF 8-Speed being the saving grave though 👍. Plus i love all the extra space up front in the engine bay to work in!
I have an in-line 6 4.0 Larado 2WD purchased new in 2001. It has 230K so far and consumes virtually no oil every 4K miles. Everything still works, including the CD and cassette player. Still used as a around town driver but I purchased a new 4Runner SR5 4WD in 2019 that we use for vacations basically.
As a Jeep owner.... You only buy a Jeep and deal with them for a Wrangler.... Because no one else makes a Wrangler... Why in the world would someone choose Jeep for anything else SUV, when there is so many other great SUV choices out there.
I bought my Grand Cherokee because it can tow, do a decent amount of offroading, and at 9 years old in the temperature extremes of Iowa (negatives in winter, 95+ in summer) it doesn't have a speck of body rust, doesn't squeak or rattle, doesn't leak, and has never once left me stranded in any situation.
@OSTKCabal, all crap brands will have an owner who says they own a trouble-free vehicle, but you are the exception. Truth is most will have major problems.
@@davidzavala337 I never said it was totally trouble-free, I said it was extremely solidly built and the underlying chassis is extremely overbuilt, unlike most other crossovers in its class. And it never has left me stranded, even when it has had issues.
this is interesting as jeep suv haters will use this feedback as ammunition as to not purchase one..i'm not selling my 2022 grand cherokee overland for no review.
@@4realtalk1 Definitely not a Jeep SUV hater here.... Just a realist.... Stelantis products have issues. Unless you need something unique like a Wrangler or defunct Trackhawk, why? There's are plenty of other reliable options for kid hauling SUVs available for similiar money. Keep it till the wheels fall off, I know I'm not entering the new vehiclr market anytime soon with the crazy prices even for small throwaway cars.
@TheCarCareNutReviews What about the Pentastar V6 Oil Filter Housing & Cooler Assembly? Doesn't look like its changed over the years. Oil and coolant leaks. Brittle plastic gets very hot. DOORMAN came out with a better design. Are they still having issues with the original design???
I just hit 20k miles on my 22 GC limited. There is nothing under powered about it and it gets amazing fuel economy for its size. I made it a point to never reset the MPG indicator. I've averaged 24.4 mpg in mixed driving over those 20k miles. I love it, and the limited trim delivers great bang for your buck.
@breacher73 my personal feeling is this that the overland price opens it up to direct competition with luxury brands and I'm just not convinced it would hold up against them. For $65k-$70k I'd more than likely be looking at a BMW X5.
I have had 5 Jeep Grand Cherokees. I currently have a 22 JGC Altitude. I have always appreciated the design , capability and driving dynamics and comfort. I never had any issues and absolutely love me new model. My Jeeps have always served me well and got me through many snowstorms.
The real question is, 5 jeeps over the course of how many years! 😝 If you lease them for 4 years, the your perception of Jeep is different than someone who purchased one and attempted to keep it 10+ years.
@@theminicooper the answer is don't make ignorant assumptions. At least l know Minis will be in the shop in about an hour after leaving the dealership? ☺️
@@bigjoe330 There is literally no assumptions in my previous comment 😆 And yes, Minis are indeed a load of crap! Cost me a lot of money to find it out! Same as with Jeep 🥰
@@theminicooperLOL….you’re THAT guy who actually bought a Mini Cooper 😂 And then you question someone else’s choice and experience of owning their brand of car. LOL….whatever you say Mini.
@@fallguy4209 I like they way they look but unfortunately only some of the older models seem to hold up good. Since Fiat got involved they have really gone down.
Mechanically this is one of the few cars that I’d buy a reliable v6 with port zf trans and differential, looks really good this would actually be reliable.
Nah. It's not reliable. Come across countless bad engines. And even though the zf trans is good, the fact it's connected to a Chrysler makes any good qualities gone.
@@alainaguilar9938The transmission is actually a Chrysler built 850RE that’s used in the hybrid 4XE and V6. The V8 has the real ZF transmission called 8HP75
@@BigAltimaEnergy719 I mean some have their issues but there are 100s of RU-vid videos that have 2-400k miles on them the trans goes out first usually. But
I respectfully disagree that the V6 is in some way underpowered. It's actually pretty well mated to the vehicle, and virtually all of its direct competitors also use turbo 4s or NA V6s in vehicles this size and weight. Almost all of those competitors also produce less power, have definitively worse transmissions, and don't have full time 4WD systems or RWD platforms or anywhere near the level of capability or towing capacity.
At this point, the Pentastar V6 and ZF8 speed transmission in the Grand Cherokee is pretty much a bulletproof combination. And it's not at all underpowered. It also returns decent fuel economy for a 5000 lb SUV.
