Hi, I now purchased my second Sonos Move. I can attest to the dramatically increased sound stage and volume in the stereo pair. Quite impressive. I use these outside on my deck. Thank you for your very helpful reviews.
I absolutely love my Moves paired in stereo! Powerful and clear sound with great soundstage. Indeed few people know how beast they are in pair. I just bought a Five and I was disappointed compared to the stereo Move pair. I agree that a "lower model" pair is always better than a "better model" solo.
Currently only have 1 Move, but really love the sound it has, and it's portable enough to to be practical. Also have a Roam, which is great for indoor use (my wife is using it as a speaker for her PC) We've just completed a pool install, so I think I'll buy another Move to add for stereo. Advantage is, if I get too drunk and forget to bring them in, and it rains - it won't matter, the next day they will still be fine.
Awesome content, I purchased a pair of Roams to use as makeshift desk speakers (did not want to deal with any wires on my desk) and they sound great for their size for near field listening, volume output is more than enough and clarity and bass output greatly increase over a single speaker.
I have 2 Roams for the office, and I use my 2 Moves for my bedroom. For BBQs and pool parties, I take all 4 speakers and attach them to my Verizon hotspot when I use them outside the home. Good times.
@@PeterPee thanks for doing the measurements on the paired speakers. Really quantified what I was hearing. Was surprised the paired Moves went over 100db.
Thanks for the great comparison! I was debating between a Move and a pair of Roams as they’re roughly the same price. I think the fuller bass of the Move has me leaning that way.
The roam is great and convenient but the move definitely has a fuller sound and is superior in every case that you don’t need the portability of the roam
With regards to volume level, a 3 dB increase is twice the sound pressure level, but human ears respond to volume logarithmically, so we actually perceive a 10 dB increase as being a doubling of volume.
Just added another play5 and made a pair… just amazing even the stereo image is very good. Have them vertical with the tweeters on the inside. True play make it even better. In did measurements and they are +/-5db between 35-16000hz (with true play) without the bass is raised. For 1000 euro’s difficult to beat.
@@dansharkey5218 I can’t say, the mounts I have only work in vertical position. But still impressed with the sound and the image they project. I can assure you that I know what good sound is like in my room, have a very revealing system besides the play5’s. The tweeters in the middle, under the logo’s should produce a better stereo image in stead of the tweeters on the outsides…
@@donmckinney4091 Only in bluetooth mode with your TV or thru an Apple TV on AirPlay 2 in Wifi / Dunno with the Soundbar, I think though you can't have them used as back speakers.
if my intention is to use in living room for music only, is it better to buy another move (i already have one), or leave the move for outdoors and purchase two sonos ones with a sub? I'd love to have Stereo separation
Peter, so glad you did this test. I have a Roam that I use in my garage workshop and was looking for more fidelity. Using my Oticon More hearing aids in music mode has revitalized my desire for bigger sound. So I bought a Move and it is what you say versus the Roam. So I bought a second one and will put it in Stereo mode today when it comes.
@@applemanuk appreciate it! I actually did end up ordering a refurbished Move from Sonos as a dedicated outdoor speaker. Kept the roams as a waterproof speaker for each bathroom
Peter - i'm debating whether I should buy a second Move for my living room and have it in stereo, buying a Five/Era 300 and take my current Move to my bedroom... what do you think?
Let me help you on this one Peter. Yes buy the other one lol. Yes the sonos move sounds better IMO to the sonos 1. I sold my 1's to my buddy. I have a set of 5's now. But the move i keep in my office sounds great and this damn Peter is gonna make me buy another one to complete the pair lol.
Peter, excellent analysis and commentary as always. I was wondering if is your intention to demonstrate the different of buying two speakers to go stereo like you did for the Sonos fives? Given the relative price difference between the five and the move, it would be interesting to understand the sound benefits, noting the hard wired vs wireless options. Many thanks
Yeah. I did that before for the fives. You remember that video! Actually some of the older videos are turning up less on searches so when a new to my channel viewer comes in, they don’t see the old videos.
I bought a Roam to replace a Flip3 for the bathroom for my wife. Nearly every time she went to use it, it was dead. Fast-forward had to pick up a pair of the Moves since they're on such a good sale. I have one in the kitchen and one in tge bathroom and I can "Move" to outside. They sound awesome as a stereo pair, Soundstage is wide, but every time I pair th I have to unpaired the when I put them back. I also tried them as separates and in stereo in my livingroom grouped to my Arc and gen3. They cut out when in stereo, they are better as separates grouped. My other two TVs I have surrounds but my livingroom isn't really configured in a way for rears. I may pick up some wall hangers for inside and out.
Interesting, Next step (or wish for another video): Sure, one Five sounds better than a Move, but how about a comparison of both as stereo pairs? Perhaps the eventual advantages in sound of the Fives are offset by the flexibility of the Move as a pair and are the better deal?
I’m trying to figure this out myself as in the market for a pair. Move is due a refresh though only Bluetooth 4.0 and can’t be connected to Bluetooth and wifi at the same time like the roam can
Love your work, Peter! Totally hooked to your reviews 😅 Got a question... If you have to choose purely in sound quality what would be your choice between 2 Ones + sub mini or 2 Moves. Must be the only comparison I haven't seen... Thx!
Peter some folks are saying you can use your phone as a wireless hotspot to pair two Moves, while you are away from your home wifi, IE camping etc. Have you tried this, since they can’t be paired via Bluetooth?
Peter, excellent analysis and commentary. I was wondering if is your intention to demonstrate the different of buying two speakers to go stereo like you did for the Sonos fives? Given the relative price difference between the five and the move, it would be interesting to understand the sound benefits, noting the hard wired vs wireless options. Many thanks
For the fives, I have seldom used the wired input through the 3.5mm switch. It’s just not different enough to justify another cable running from a player.
I bought 2x Roam 2 years ago. They sound Greta whe set up but are a complete pita when you take them on hols or elsewhere away from your own wifi. Factory reset and set up again. Most frustrating
Peter. First, thanks a bunch for all your content! I watch all your vids! Great stuff! Question. I have 2 roams in stereo, but have also configured them grouped in mono x2. I think the stereo config sounds cleaner and more accurate being true L/R, but would loved to have seen your test showing how the graph would look comparing the roams in stereo vs x2 in mono. I believe your test was just one roam in mono. Is that correct?
Kudos on another insightful informative video Peter! Could you do a binaural sound demo of the moves in mono vs stereo please? If there is already a vid like this please send me the link.
Hi Peter, I am revisiting this after getting my second roam and second move. I have to agreed with you that doubling up makes a huge difference. A single roam can be underwhelming in a large space or outside, but two of them are significantly better. I have a question now, if I have all 4 set up, would you recommend creating 2 stereo pairs or just grouping all 4 as monos. Have you ever done a sound test on two speakers, both mono vs stereo pair?
Thank you! Very informative! I have a simpler question. After you pair two move for stereo. How can you quickly tell which one is left and which one is right after you move them to another room?
Ha! Good question, I am using the Roam in different colors so that's easy but an eye sore to have unmatched colors. If you have both in the same color, short of labelling them with a sticker or some markers, you can't tell quickly. But in a relatively quick manner, just power off one of them and see which one is left identified in the app?
@@PeterPee I have thought about this a little more. Obviously I have not paired two moves yet. Just purchased one and am enjoying the quality sound. Nevertheless, if there is a balance slider in the app when you stereo pair them that could be the answer. Just slide it to left or right and listen. Is there a slider?
Hi Peter, can you pair 2 speakers using bluetooth yet? Even in party mode or stereo? That would be the deciding factor for me as they are portable.. love your content as always pal 👍🏻
HI there, I have just purchased Sonos move a couple of hours ago, was wondering how to play iTunes music (not Apple Music or other streaming music platforms) on sonos move via Wi-Fi?
HI PETE ❤ YOUR VIDEOS. WOULD LOVE TO SEE SONOS MOVE ARC AND SUB VIDEO. BEING ABLE TO THEN TAKE THE MOVE ON THE GO & USE AS A STERO / SURROUND SPEAKER…. What are your thoughts???
Hi there I have 2 sonos one stereo paired, and I wonder if it should be better to seprate the two in 2 différent rooms or do I let it be as it’s now, aka the stereo pairing? thanks all!!!!!
I just bought 2 Moves and a One…thank you for making this video. Keep up the great work. I wanted to pair the Moves as rear speakers for surround sound…and I don’t think it’s possible :( I know you can do this with the Ones…any suggestion on how I can use the Moves as rears for surround sound?
I have the 1st Gen Beam, Gen 3 Sub, and 2 Ikea bookshelf speakers in my office. I had two Sonos Roams I added for fun and it really works filling the room with even more sound. Unfortunately, the Sonos app doesn't keep the extra Roams paired everytime turn on the TV and I have to select it everytime. The extra Roams do not mute when I mute the TV and I have to pause the TV to mute the extra paired Roams. I wish Sonos would upgrade the app to keep the paired Roams always if selected. Mute all speakers grouped together from TV remote. I also wish the Sonos app would allow you to mix and match speakers and placement as needed to turn my 1st Gen Roam into a 7.2.4. system.
Great content, and I appreciate the science. I’m curious what the graph looks like pairing a Move with a Roam…..compared to the other graphs in this video. A Move/Roam combination is more affordable than two Moves and probably sounds a little richer than two Roams.
hey peter i have a question, i own a pair of sonos five in my living room, is it benificial to add a pair of sonos ones to it for filling up the space? i can´t find any info online about this setup.
Oh wait! To be clear if you meant to connect in stereo, no. You can’t connect the roams and moves in stereo over Bluetooth. It needs to be in wifi to be in stereo pair.
I recently just bought the move and contemplated getting a second one for stereo pair using Bluetooth. I'm so glad I saw this comment and saved myself some cash. Thanks for the heads up Peter Pee 👍
Yep unfortunately Sonos doesn’t allow a sub to be paired with the moves. Or roams. If you are thinking of getting another speaker, I’d strongly recommend getting another used play:5g2. The sound from that setup is amazing.
