Should You Buy a VEGA 64 In Late 2019? 

Weird, my 9900k does not go over 60°c in prime while OC'ed to 5.1ghz.. I must have missed that time :(

god damn my i7 6700 non K at 4.5ghz goes up to 85C holy shit had to downclock it to 4.2ghz now its 70C jesus intel cause it kept crashing at 4.5..... my fx didnt even get that hot at 4.5ghz

@sayan mukherjee Yeah you need some luck i guess. I have to say its on a custom loop and i delidded it too. I mean, you are lucky when your 9900k goes 5ghz all core, its rare to see a 9900k going up to 5.1ghz without overheating in normal cases. I mean, silicon lottery sells 5.1ghz 9900k's for almost $1000, its insane.

@@RngmonsterX imagine needing luck to overclock to just 5.1 when pre-ryzen AMD processors could clock to over 8ghz on all 4 cores :^)

Same thing AMD is saying about their new Navi cards. "Don't worry, 90+ degrees is normal"

Yes I know you're very fat

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Yes i know you’re hot

@@Kazya1988 bruh

@@kingarthur83rd Another one of "ur mommers", *infinity loop no u*

Wait... WHERE HAVE I SEEN YOU BEFORE

For each oil change it is a good idea to replace the engine as preventive maintaince

If it doesn't work, it might be a 'driver issue'

@@CoffeyKingVlogs Bethesda wants to know your location

@@CoffeyKingVlogs If your car is made by Apple you have to replace the engine to change the oil, also they will only sell you a new engine with a transmission welded onto it.

Just get in and get out, starts right up.

Same

Because apparently 2017 is a long time ago 🤣 *laughs in 2500K*

@@StaelTek im 2500k too 5ghz 24/7

@@Floppa5922 I've got a long "graphics card" but you don't see me waving it around.

@@jamesharwood4752 2500k 5ghz is not impressive lol

Was thinking the same thing, 64-bios mod certainly doesn't make things better.

@@tobiasboh3370 Undervolt it for improved performance, but yeah, I OCed the hell of of Vega 56 too, its actually fun.

BLUESANDAL SALAD do the ghetto mod or out the Accelero from Arctic on it. it should be very nice

Did that, too, of course! It's ridiculous how much AMD overdid the voltage on these poor things. Undervolting them is like getting an entirely new and much better card.

@@tobiasboh3370 What mV do you run your state 6 and 7 at? I've had a lot of trouble finding the sweet spot on mine.

Isn't the Vega 64 actually rather hot?

Tech RU-vidrs: "I am comedy"

@@anirvana The AIB cards are fine. The blower cooler is utter garbage.

@@anirvana In terms of TDP it's no worse than Nvidia's current high end cards, though of course they outperform it comfortably.

@@saladwithsalad I see.

I stripped off the cover and blower fan. Put an aftermarket heatsink with two large fans, Way cooler, more FPS and memory+. Faster, better card. running 1750MHz safe, stabel & stapel setting.

Did you uv it mines hits 83C and it is very loud

@@TONI-bi1lg mine hits 75C Max and is near silent.

TheSpryxe l Hardware same, the only problem I had was when I tried to play bo3 on ultra settings 4K and it kept bluescreening.

@@TONI-bi1lg mines quite quiet on 100% fans, are you sure its not your psu fan?

@@icebtw6802 Try to fully stress your GPU with something like furmark. That way you can find out if your GPU causes your Bluescreens. If not, maybe it's the fault of your CPU / Power Supply / RAM

@Jay Arre they do undervolt them to save them further

@Jay Arre no relation to the subject

Performance per watt of a GTX 760 tho

@Jay Arre yeah only mining tho, i see a lot well kept ones age like fine wine

Vega was old news on release day. DOA garbage.

I know it’s an old comment but what cpu are you runnng with it?

He does have a car channel.

@@StaelTek No kidding. There haven't been any uploads recently, though. Edit: The most recent upload was July of last year.

@@StaelTek Yes he does.

Tri sli GTX 480s and I promise you won't be cold

@@leeoloughlin9249 m8 he wants to warm his house, not attempt nuclear fusion

Same at 11:26

Anirban Pramanick thats how my rx5700xt sounds lol 😂

Why do you say oof? What does the even mean?

@@xFlared I think it's some sort of roblox meme

@@xFlared literal bruh moment right here

GBR doesn't have one, so it's forgivable.

Ya, it's crazy how much you can get out of these cards if you go through the right steps.

Yeah I actually flashed my vega 56 to a 64 and under volted and get my memory to 945 and the clock speed up to 1722 and my temps are very good while gaming I'll get up to 74c I do have the blower style

@@Jimmyjames6988 Samsung's can go higher on Memory top. I'm actually on daily on 1630/1100, they're little beasts!

Oh ok I was scared to push it more I'll try OC some more today

@@Jimmyjames6988 You should be ok, I run 950mhz on a standard bios. Just make sure you don't have Hynix ram as they were never used in vega 64s.

You have entered the comedy area

5P1T4 HOT, hipster people need it, new iMac iPhone Pro gear is HOT! AMD, other people....nerdy tech reviews, HOT is sweaty smelly, up in mums house.... comedy? humor, nerdy noobs will never understand that!

Next goal standup

Linus dropped it

@@cptcrogge lmao

@@snekeatr6113 uhh.. Try again

Looks like someone pried it apart, the fan shield protects it.

@@snekeatr6113ah, the classic "I'm too self-conscious to make a self-deprecating joke, so I'll invent a relative"

Yeah, mine runs on 2GHz and 1130 mV (Eiswolf 240 AiO in a loop with a Eisbaer 140 AiO from Alphacool) . 30mV higher than stock but 200 MHz (~11 % faster) with HBM2 from 1000 MHz oced to 1150 MHz (PT+20). Temps around 48°C / 90°C Junction. Will eventually try to go higher... Consumes ~280 W of GPU power under full load. When using a 60 fps cap at 4k and some games will hit about 80 fps and more it will only consume around 150W. But it doesn't matter anyway I'm only playing like 1h average a day. Getting tired after work... Even if I would play 3h a day it would cost me 100€ more over 2 years when compared to a 150W GPU. Of course the initial purchasing costs were higher than a 150W GPU. Now, I'm not regretting the decision because the card will be for sure futureproof and I will be able to use Ultra textures for many years from now... I don't need Ultra settings. Most important to me is that the Image is crystal clear and sharp.

@Darshan P Softwaredeveloper. I'm at 8 p.M. at home.

@@M4Looney yea, I have radeon 7 on water as well 24/7 at 2.1GHZ/1267mV/1200 memory 40% power level and it runs great. I had the 1st batch of VIIs so they run a little higher stock voltage but it still runs like a dream. pretty much near 2080ti performance, I love it.

@@geerstyresoil3136 That's a pretty good overclock. I'm not sure if I want to go higher with my overclock. I tried 1150 mV and 2020 MHz which was not stable... Maybe I will try something like 33% power target (as the card is actually clocking ~30 MHz below 2000 mHz). It just doesn't make sense to me to give ~ 50 mV and more to the GPU for each 50 MHz clock increase. So a 100 MHz increase from 2 GHz would run at ~ 350W+ what would be a little too high for me for 24/7 usage... My Temps are not the best for a liquid cooled setup. I maybe have ~ 10°C Junction temp delta that I can "spend". By the way, how high are your temperatures and how high are your fan RPMs?

@@M4Looney I have an overkill corsair 900D setup that used to to be running 3 290x LCS waterblocks so it has 3 radiators of 4,3, and 2 fans. Every day gaming it doesn't get over 42c during heavy multiday benches tops out at 47c. I keep the fans pretty low. I also have the x570 aqua motherboard with full block cooling a 3900x. Its basically my dream amd build. I may add a 2nd VII if MGPU catches on again. 😁

i wish. i'd get 2 and record cool stereo samples :D

Nvidia Titan has it beat (the blower card makes a much more realistic whoosh and the vent holes create a turbulent roar and vortex sound). But the ultimate is the FireGL-V8650 as that thing is deafening (seriously, wear hearing protection, it’s insane), it’s extremely loud at idle even since it’s like 200w idle and running 75c even though it’s louder than a vacuum cleaner while doing so... I was crazy enough to have it cranked to 100% fan with a 20% overclock and it thermal destabilized at like 120c (I’m not sure the Vram temp, it has 32 Vram chips covering the front and back of the card, it’s truly insane!)

I paid 300 a year ago. Im happy also.

Great on winter, you don't have to buy a heater. But seriously, it's a recent card and a powerful one. Yes you can get more o less the same performance with a 5700, but the vega 56/64 has much more computer power if you use opencl. Hope soon we see a navi with 64 cu insted of 40 with hbm

@@jordicoma That's why I went Vega. For compute as well as gaming.

I upgraded to a Vega 56 from a 970.

I used to run a 970 until 2 weeks ago RDR2 was just too much for it at anything other then potato settings. Got myself an RX 5700 XT and love it.

Try and play red dead

Good that you are Hackitnsoh User and not Akshonhcti Usre

@@StaticVapour590 ?

χχкѕρ_ρlαуєяχχ it’s a joke...

XFX is worse. I have never had a quiet XFX card. From the 7850 (which is not a difficult card to cool) up until the RX 590. I rather pick up Sapphire or MSI.

I've got a Sapphire Limited Edition Vega 64 (The silver one) with turbine fan and it is way louder at 70+ fan speed, but still, with the proper undervolt you'll never need to hit this fan speed, I just turn it to 55 and do the undervolt and the temperatures are very good, even if where I live is hot.

@@Black-ny7gv when i just got the card, brand new (like 3 days after it's launch, rx480 8gb btw) first demanding game i used it for was the witcher 3 card was at 88 degree all the time, at 1680x1050 and high details with lowered grass i had about 80fps, which is fine, but these temps were terrifying the g1 software was like the worst ever, it had almost no options, i could've only set mode to performance or quiet, but then, whenever it was running, the card would randomly go to 100% fan speed, no matter the load or temps, and it wouldn't go down until pc restart, not to mention its option to change rgb on the card was basically dead what i've discovered after, was that no matter what, fans wouldn't go higher than i believe 70%, so i uninstalled that insult to humanity called g1 gaming software, and installed proper msi afterburner, only to find out that fans when at 100% keep the card in 80 degree in aforementioned witcher with same settings, so 8 degree lower, but GOD WAS IT LOUD, i was forcing myself to play on these setting for the sake of the card, but even i had enough after 2 weeks then it wasn't that bad, i settled down on overwatch, so my card was mostly fine, another problem appeared when i got 144hz 1080p monitor, it was BAAAAD it had freesync, and even trough that this, card was stuttering like hell, i am sure i've been loosing like 20% off all frames, and the card was hot again, and because it was overheating and shutting down, i had to play with 100% fans again (i was passionate about OV at the time, so i played it a lot back then) then far cry 5 came out, and this is where the bullshit have peaked - card was shutting down after 5 minutes of gameplay, 1080p minimal details, 100% fan speed from beginning then i got used (not after mining) MSI 1080 somewhere around rtx launch, so it was fairly cheap, quiet, blazing fast, no problems, loved it, have it till today so, because of that one thing, i will never again buy any gigabyte/aorus product, and most likely any radeon as well EDIT: one of the other comments reminded me of one thing, "try undervolting" so i tried, 0.01V lower at 100% usage in wattman or whatever it's called, and card would crash everytime, so no, undervolting wasn't the solution

Well you bought a fantastic card, I got the same one, haven't had any problems

Yes the Nitro+ vega 64 is amazing. 63°C after hours in red dead redemption.

Sapphire consistently makes high quality cards.

Get a life man

It't an english thing, mate

@@trinajska I know pointing small mistakes out is stupid and probably worthless but maybe it'll get fixed if i point it out.

@@claudiocesar9445 undervolted vega64 it doesnt

Prof PistolPete i dont get it, whats the issue with the gigabyte ones?

Why?

Silicon quality?

@@SpazziJackazzi I googled a bit and it seems like the Gigabyte OC versions (the one in the video) have way more issues than the others. Also, I don't think it has to do with silicon quality, probably faulty PCB design, looks like gigabyte was trying to push these Vegas too far. On that note, Vegas use HBM2 and are quite different from the regular DDR/GDDR PCB designs, maybe that also adds up to the issues... Still, I'm not entirely sure what really fails on these cards that actually kills them.

@@MarcosScheeren My ASUS Strix version... died 3 times without any oc

Yaar mera nono chota kyun hai

Hexo2000 not on the 56, but on getting the gigabyte version. The Sapphire Pulse is MUCH better(I have that one)

My brother owned one. Looked like a solid card. And yes random freezes. Black screens. All the time. But when it did run it ran beautifully. 75 fps locked on most AAA games with a slight under volt. I ended up selling him my Nitro Vega 64 and buying a 5700 XT Nitro. And all his black screens went away. So obviously it was that card. Probably just needs some thermal pads and new high end thermal paste. But I wasn't going to deal with the warranty or break the warranty. Ended up selling it.

​@@Andy-hi9do There are/were major problems with the Gigabyte cooler design on the early Vega cards and early firmware. I don't remember exactly if it was VRAM or something else, but I've seen some teardowns that show a horrible design on r/AMD. They are prone to simply breaking because of that and should simply be avoided. The early Gigabyte Vega cards are hot crap. I've read that they fixed it later, but if you buy used, you don't really know if it's old stock - even if it was bought recently.

F2 bios fixes the card.

I had one, black screen all the time. Got strix now much better.

Only had those problems when trying to overclock too much. Other than that it ran fine. Not too loud or hot. It was a good placeholder card till something better came along

Hey I recently bought this exact GPU and I am building my PC really soon but some of the online reviews have started to scare me a bit since I'm not sure whether I could refund or not if things go wrong. The one I've bought is brand new (Gigabyte Vega 64 OC) so I'd really appreciate if you gave me a run down of how that model was to set-up and how well it runs a year later. I'm new to stuff like BIOS flash and undervolting but I was interested by the community who actually really love this card for its capabilities when modified. What did you have to do to get it running fine in working order? (e.g. did you update BIOS? and how easy was it to undervolt?)

I stuck a water block on mine. Still huge but it's cool and quiet.

They're fine, maybe you're playing at worse quality settings

@@josephnorris4095 nope

Yeah I heard that the gigabyte one was one of the worst and would overheat alot

@@josephnorris4095 there's no other way to know but to disassemble and check the pads.

Strix is the way

@@DyDam-go2qy Nah Strix has issues, solvable but the Nitro and Red Devil are gtg out of box.

@@MahBones don't got an issues with the strix ;)

@@DyDam-go2qy You may not have any issues with it, yet but the card certainly does, Asus dropped the ball on the VRM solution, just type Vega Strix VRM into google.

@@MahBones still havent good any problems

This video is clearly from a noob of the Vega experience lol

I've seen new 5700 for $280 but they're blower cards so I honestly don't know it's worth it. I have seen multiple used vega 56 go for $170-$190 on eBay too. Still not sure which is worth it

@@jessiejames1681 iv seen small youtubers who say the 5700 is not hot or loud with blower cooler, its only the big tech youtubers who say its hot and loud and there is quite a bit of evidence that most are paid off by nvidia ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-czHvAhG4xTc.html

Vega 64 is still better tho

i saw buyers on amazon saying it has some kind of bad hynix memory and the card is performing worse with gigabyte version

I had a vega56 and just black screen crashed continuously.

@@mahmoud1737 Yeah the memory was bad when it came to overclocking but the card was decently quiet and performed well in games. Didn't get too hot either. Sold mine and put it towards a RTX 2080 though

i read Gigabyte makes the worst AMD gpus

@@MagicManCM closely followed by Asus from what I hear. AMD cards are better made by sapphire or powercolor

Just under-volt it.

@@DJ_Dopamine It was the first thing I did.. If u want it at at least 1600mhz, it will pull more than 300w. I managed to get it under 75C

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