Should You Load Five, Or Should You Load Six? (Single Action Basics) 

7 for ur mum

yee haw haw yee haw haw

Oh yeah yeah + yee haw= Oh yee haw

Ends up in hospital in stead of gunfight 🙃

In the town of aluia fria rode a stranger one fine day hardly spoke to folks around him didn't have too much to say no one dared to ask his buisness no one dared to make a slip for the stranger there among them had the big Iron on his hip I get your username

This is the reason why these guns are so easy to fan the hammer with, though it has it's tradeoffs.

He's literally barely touching the hammer from the back. If he hit the top of the barrel, or dropped it, it would go off. If you wanna fully load it, be prepared the next thing that happens is round down range.

SBJ123_ Your comment is the best summary of 45’s entire approach (to teaching and shooting) I’ve heard thus far. Spot on Sir.

-said every person that's ever viewed a hickock45 video

@@michaelmacdowall4228 I'm british but have an interest in the mechanisms and designs behind firearms and why they were designed the way they were. He has managed to explain how guns work at least to me (complete layman, can't even own functional firearms) really well. Glad to be subbed to him and it's also cool that he doesn't treat them like toys. Like any weapon they need to be respected and treated like what they are, weapons. They shouldn't be used irresponsibly.

I was thinking the same thing lol

This guy is my grandad, makes me reminisce all the damn time god bless you pop

Now check his latest video, Nov 21 2018

I accidentally actually shot myself one these it wasn't fun

@@johnniewalker39 What is the titel of the video? What it is about?

@@Gieszkanne damned it i rember, it's been 6 years

@@johnniewalker39 I guess it was "How not to carry a Colt SAA" But he was just saying the same in that video. I think he is wrong with this. The safety noth is very strong. I have seen a video where someone hit the hammer in the safety notch much stronger and the primer didnt whent off.

hickok45 how about... A diamond bullet?

Would a Colt's Dragoon have the same problem?

Considering the price of Bitcoin these days, you could put a rolled-up Post-it-note with the access codes to a cryptocurrency wallet you set up for that purpose. ;)

only a certified cheque or money order please :p

Stick my bank card’s chip in there and boom

Rick OBrien thanks for sharing that story

So you loaned him a pistol without sharing with him the safety issues of the pistol. Or you handed him an unsafe weapon without explanation that he could get shot if things go slightly wrong. Or you didn't know your own weapon well enough to explain it properly and shouldn't have loaned it out. You must be a good person.

Damn, no more kitchen magnets and MRIs for him

Great lesson in safety! Thanks!

Richard Warren probably just a mistake, albeit one with potential catastrophic results, but I don’t think it makes him a bad person. Just a bit irresponsible or complacent, and I’m sure he’s learned a valuable lesson.

Was thinking that myself. When he said "some of the old ones have a worn-out notch" a light bulb went off.

Fredrik Häll Nice

And his last movie,.. the Duke was giving Ron Howard shooting lessons and advised him to keep an empty chamber under his hammer for safety purposes. But if you know the movie in the next couple of lines he did advise Ron Howard if you feel like you need six,.. load six but under normal circumstances we only need five and if you are a good shot and deadly and you can shoot five men before one of them gets to you then you’ve achieved a remarkable feat and you can always re-load,.. if you’re able. I worked as a certified police officer and even during my time it was against our departments policy to have an un-chambered cylinder but in my Glock 40 I always left all of my ammunition in the magazine and I only pulled and loaded it when I felt I was in danger, yes it took about two seconds or less off of my reaction time,..But it gave me a psychological sense of safety knowing there was not a live round inside of my barrel. I had small children in the house at the time and there was no way I was going to be responsible for them accidentally finding my weapon while I was sleeping and thinking it was some sort of a toy or play pistol which would cause an accidental discharge and possibly calls a lot more damage than that. Now when I stepped out of my patrol vehicle and I was facing what I perceive it may or may not be a threat then I would rack and chamber a shell into the firing position, but as a general rule I usually carried my firearm with the chamber empty.

You sir are a gentleman and a scholar.

When he was young, he apparently had a loaded colt fall out of the holster and go off, while he was leaning back in a chair. Needless to say, he learned from it.

Somebody probably tried it

@@vincentmalpica That was me. And Larry H. Parker got me 1.5 million dollars.

tAcToR

the reason manufactures put all those stupid warnings in the manual is because some idiot actually did it and then sued

If it’s something about guns, he’s the guy to go to

yea but would ya trust him with yer wife

+Clyde Wary Yeah, when EVERTHING is a warning, NOTHING is a warning. So many pages of warnings in many instruction manuals that all that just becomes another chapter we think we'll get around to reading sometime if we "need" to. One would think that manual / instruction writers would understand this basic principle of human nature a bit better. Guess their main concern is that they cover anything that leaves them liable; whether anybody actually reads it all or gets hurt is pretty irrelevant to them.

that's a funny note

That's a bit like the warning about peanuts on a Mr. Tom bar. It consists of nothing but whole peanuts glued together by caramel and honey so visually, even on the package, it's all peanuts. Someone with a peanut allergy would need to not know what a peanut looks like, in which case I'm fairly sure they wouldn't even know about their allergy.

Hey, at least they named a Pac Man ghost after him.

Unfortunately, plenty of people actually need all those silly warnings these days.

plowboysghost Agreed!, Just as you said.

Ironic and sad story; distant relative of my sister-in-law actually was at the firing range shooting an old revolver without notches/transfer bar. Had 5 rounds loaded initially... he was doing a shoot / switch cover / shoot drill - the revolver fell onto the ground and shot the following round into his shoulder. So my takeaway is... don't use old revolvers at all if you can avoid it.

Safety notches are easily broken, if it does not have a transfer bar, load five. Period.

What about a Cattleman II system ? .

@@oolooo 6.

whos head would it blow off?

Scorpio's

T2 shotup Pretty much anyone's.

Go ahead, make my day

@@t2shotup274 I mean, maybe not clean off, but you'd definitely be missing a huge piece lol.

Hello

for some reason i just love him putting the smiley face

you sir. are amazing i can't stop learning from your videos i just got my 1st 22lr & you helped me iut thank you for sharing all your knowlage with the world

alot more people love your videos you teach safty

Is that a suggestion?

Which kind?

ruger wrangler for example

Join a gun range if you haven't already. These things are talked about often.

@@nobodybetter9175 Thanks! Yeah, I manage a gun range now, ha. Lots has changed in the last 2 years and I have learned quite a bit. Always more to learn though!

My black powder 2nd Generation Colt Walker has a safety pin that sticks out so the hammer can rest on it. And the cylinder will not move at all....

"Works fine for me." Common response to any kind of issue.

Yes, you are right. Of course there are many people who load all the chambers and never have a problem. A modern revolver design takes away much of the risk as a transfer bar is a good safety so even if there is a live round beneath the hammer it should not be possible to fire a round unless the hammer has come from fully cocked released by the trigger. If, however, you are sometimes using older guns, or copies of older guns then there is a real risk that loading all the chambers may result in a negligent discharge which could shoot a bystander or yourself. Hickok 45 was making a good point that he loads five everytime as it is a good habit.

canopus101 i would rather not get killed

Sure, and lots people drive drunk and don't have accidents. Until they do.

I'd load five like the true American hero, John Wayne

cringe

Matt's Horsemanship why?

Novu shot placement!

You're pretty good.

Novu I only need one.....Bawhahahahahahahahahahahaha 😂😂😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

One, two, three, four, five, six. Six. Perfect number.

Revolver ocelot

It's funny because some older guns like the colt 1851 navy, actually had a groove between the chambers for the hammer to rest on. You'd think they'd just keep it that way...

More like a perfect lesson to do research on your gun and the mechanics of it

@@edwarddowning7531 This video IS research. Oh get over yourself. Geez.

None of us can claim 100% that a handgun has never "gone off" on it's own. I'm sure a trigger has been so defective that it's happened somewhere; however, "The gun just went off" is the common argument when people experience unintentional discharge by having their finger on the trigger and pulling it. Guns don't just "go off."

@@hickok45 Alec Baldwin is now claiming that he never pulled the hammer all way back to cock it either he just let the hammer go and the gun went off. Is it possible for the cylinder to rotate the chamber enough and align with the firing pin without pulling the hammer all the way back even with a colt replica that was designed just like the originals that had none of these modern safeties?

@@yellowjacket588 why would the cylinder have needed to rotate? It could have had a round already in place.

@@chexrice Alec Baldwin said, ”I pulled the hammer as far as I could without cocking the gun and I let go of the hammer and it went off!” Would the cylinder rotate enough (assuming he pulled it to the third hammer position) to align the hammer and firing pin with the bullet primer to fire the gun if the half cock and first safety notch failed to catch the hammer as it fell forward, without Alec pulling the trigger?

You mean you DON'T take safety warnings for granted. Unless they're stupidly telling you things your six year old knows already!

7 years and no reply, sad

@@kaidencrip7565 he not 7 years old haha

The comment is

That's cool I didn't know that.

Phoenix Grimm It depends on the model

How do you know that the cylinder wont accidentally spin

@@cryptochipmunk336 there's a pin on the cylinder that matches to a notch in the hammer, the black powder colts have this feature. no drop fire that way

-John Bernard Books

when it comes to eating bullets the first one should be enough

@@ArtietheArchon or just eat all 6 to be sure, may need a helping hand 😂

We only eat crayons around these parts

Vaquero has the built in safety. This is only for the old colt

i'm no expert, but you can't fan the hammer with a transfer bar. also, imagine you've got the reflex to load six. someone lends you their gun. it doesn't have a transfer bar. "oh no, i just shot my leg in the face". i've heard stories of people carrying colt dragoons and bp revolvers with all chambers loaded, but without one percussion cap, or even the hammer resting on a leather lanyard to prevent accidental discharge. it sounds a bit too fiddly for me, and frankly borderline darwin-award worthy.

+TheLonePeasant Well, if you want to own a real Colt SAA, vintage or new, then it won't have a transfer bar. And the reason to own a new SAA or exact clone thereof would be a desire for authenticity to the most iconic revolver of the western/frontier era.

For historical reasons, cowbow action shooting where you fan the revolver and so on.

Eddy Guizonde the percussion revolvers (at least all from the Navy on, not sure about the Dragoon and Walker) have notches in the hammer with a corresponding bump on the back of the cylinder between caps so the hammer can rest on the cylinder instead of a cap and the bump being in the notch prevents the cylinder from turning. The need for a firing pin meant that wouldn't work with cartridge guns. It's safe to carry a percussion revolver loaded with six rounds that way but lowering the hammer on a SA that way repeatedly causes stress on the mainspring and mars the cylinder by causing the bolt to drag against it, so it's not recommended to do so unless you're planning on taking on a gang of rustlers or desperadoes in the immediate future.

Muslims & liberals

Anti-gun poofters.

Well jealous haters for one, people who do not understand firearm safety for two, and gun control freaks and nuts that think that you can stop gun violence by outlawing guns! You do realize that heroin and marijuana has been outlawed for years but I can find it on every corner...., for you to believe that you think you can control gun violence by outlawing guns only makes you the same class of people who think you can control heroin by making it illegal

Revolver Ocelot disliked this. He likes to fire six shots instead of five.

@@vistea1 I can't argue with that

John Marston b

Rip

Can't run away from the past boy

Hey that’s me

I want you to go and not look back

Yeah but with a 5 shot you should load 4

Correct, this is only an issue with real Colt SAAs or clones of these original designs. Modern designs take care of this if you don't mind a modern design of the classic single actions.

The Colt Cowboy. Colt should never have stopped production on that model, with its transfer bar safety. Looked enough like a SAA, but with the biggest problem with it fixed. If those were available and affordable, I'd be first in line to buy one.