Should You Trade For Minegumo? 

those torps despawning within spitting distance of their targets gave me physical pain

I'm in the top 10 in every metric (except average plane shot down...) for this ship on the EU server, and have the highest damage replay on WoWs Replays, and I can 100% vouch for this ship: it's super fun and very good, without being broken. It is indeed "just a torp boat", and because you need to be able to use the F3s to be effective (otherwise you'd be almost straight inferior to Yuugumo), it has a skill floor a bit higher than most. But once you have reached that skill floor, it shines so well. It is indeed so comfortable, and the F3s are very satisfying to land. Do not sleep on the guns! The DPM is low, but they hit super hard! Use your advantages, mostly your concealment (veeeery slightly better than Jäger). Outspot your opponent, land a salvo or two, go back to stealth before he can shoot you back (with island cover or smoke). I have won quite a few duels against hybrid DDs and gunboats this way. (The exact same as with most Japanese torpedo DD...) I had good success in ranked this season, too. EDIT: After the usual PM, LS, SE and CE, I run (in no order) Grease the Gears, Swift Fish, Fill the Tubes, Superintendent and extra-heavy ammo. I hate subs with a passion, which is why I pick extra-heavy ammo (as it boosts the already strong Japanese depth charges). As for superintendent, I often find myself runing out of consumables, sometimes even with the skill equipped. It is indeed a sub-par build, but I really hate submarines, and I don't feel like managing the number of consumables I have in stock. Thinking about all the things that can screw over a torpedo DD is already enough for me.

Every surface ship has an ability to dive below the water - at least once

Really enjoy the Minegumo, for anyone that enjoys torp boats this is a fantastically comfortable ship. Edit: Well worth mentioning you absolutely must make use of the free switch between torps, (4 sec delay if fully loaded) and the amazing reload which can get down to around 60 to 70 seconds

The friendly DDs throwing at the end hurts

I would highly recommend the RPF/Radio Location skill in the +fourth line for this and all other IJN torp boats. It makes it really easy to have full control over any possible engagement with enemy gun boat DDs. For me its a must.

Good video. I was on the fence about this and went ahead and traded in my very frustrating GK for the Minegumo. I have plenty of coal so I can easily get the GK back once my masochistic tendencies return. Thanks PQ.

When you are spotted at 6:41, Shiki reacts by slowing down, eating the torps she could partially avoid. So who knows was that a bad or a good thing :)

Thanks for this PQ! I traded in a Neustrashimi that I hated playing and had not played in months. I laughed out loud playing Minegumo having so much fun. I play her like Jager at start of the game and later switch to the short range torps. I took out a half health Wisconsin in Random on my last battle, such fun!

Have a good day PQ

yeah, even though i ranted about the wows scam with the ships last video, i eventually traded my marceau for the minegumo and your right: minegumo is hilariously good. the 6.5 km torps are the bread and butter. i didn't have much luck with the 15km torps (1-2 occasionally torp hits) but the 6.5km torps are insane XD so many dev strikes. either while not being spotted or by yoloing unfortunate behemoths, sitting still in the water. but don't sleep on the guns! my first kill was a shot down yamagiri while he was shooting someone else, so use the guns if an opportunity arises!

I only recently started playing DD's seriously (I'm almost a casual player and not a good one. And a BB main). I remember having terrible time when I played at lower tiers (and I also ever bought 2 premiums, because they were Polish - but I can't play them well). Thankfully SeaRaptor made a tutorial (you don't want to mess the commander - I mainly used it for that as well as some general advice on playstyle) on Japanese Torpedo Destroyers. I always had a lot of problems with Torpedo DD's when I play my BB's, so I thought I learn the enemy. Tier 5 was a bit fun, but with my abilities..... mostly co-op honestly. It's also first/last Tier when I either automatically go for survivability expert or don't - depending on the ship. But I struggled and struggled and bought Tier 6 as soon as possible. And after couple lousy matches (I hate being the reason my team dies), I spent my entire Free XP to upgrade commander to level 10. And with concealment expert suddenly the game went from "basically unplayable" to almost 60% Win Rate. Of course the rest of the team mattered more than my own efforts, but being able to go so close to ship, torp it and escape undetected was such a big change. It's not that with some destroyers it isn't possible without Concealment Expert, but when you have margin of error of 0.1-0.3km it is really easy to screw up. And again - I'm not a good player and I was trying to seriously play DD's for the first time. It's sad that co-op gives so little XP and has such oddly working bots, because it sadly fails as both educational mode and a recreational mode, where you don't bring down your team with your newbie mistakes. Maybe I misremember, but when I started playing in April of 2020 co-op was at least more rewarding. Plus on good days you could get a lot of players and only few bots, which usually meant that you could do some damage, but also train against human players. Oh - and funny story. Last night I was playing with my Amagi (my highest tier ship) in Random Battle. And I waited in queue for a long time. When game finally loaded, it was 3v3 (all humans). I saw some small matches, but having 3 ships on each team was a new record low. 1 sub on each team was against cap A, acompanied by a BB. And then other BB (me and my counterpart) against cap B. If I didn't know for certain that the match would end before time, I probably would have sprinted towards C cap to get any cap. But fight was short, sweet, actually kind of good (nothing stellar, but not a lot of embarrassing mistakes) and we all had a good laugh. I promised I wouldn't upload any WoWS replays on my channel anymore, before my actual PC is working, but maybe I will train editing commentary on it and publish it. Surreal situation.

I have been waiting for this video thx PQ. Now, I am 120% sure that I will get her. Thx always.

It seems like you really enjoyed playing this ship! Maybe you should try 8km Shima maybe, considering it's somewhat similar :)

The ship is in the Asashio Class so the Minegumo is her sister. In game they have the same surface detection and seem to have been in game torpedo test beds. The Asashio tested the deep water torpedoes and the Minegumo is testing the speed vs range switch. (the Yamagiri was first at switching but the mechanic was very bad.) Thanks for the review. I had seen your first impressions video which informed my choice. Hopefully the speed/range swapping will find it's way on other WG torpedo armed ships as it is historical. (now if WG will also add the torpedo heading change after launch the Rodney has to the DDs that historically had that as well.) (Yes I dream and really know better by now) I traded my Carnot for the Minegumo. I did not care for the Carnot and as a IJN DD main I have been waiting for a higher tier (Good) Premium trainer. The Yuduchi manages to be quite lackluster for me. I have the Harekaze as well but it works better with an IFHE captain with the 100mm guns. And the Minegumo will be less challenging to play for fun than the Asashio. My IJN DDs almost always get the extra cost (coal) speed boost. Does the extra 5% speed on the torpedoes really make much difference? It seems the main defense for IJN torp boats is, don't get shot at. The other thing about the trade in, you do not have pay to demount the modules on the trade in ship, WG automatically does that when you trad it in.

As a dedicated F3 shima player I know that “a little bit short” feeling! Welcome to the dev strike printing club!!

Very worthit im enjoy

PQ has such an obvious smile in his voice when he enjoys a ship, it really says a lot

KArl is fun as hell, I pretend I am a Halland with armor! Just go around torping the hell out of people

Great game. I think the buy back is a great deal if you have a lot of coal. I lucked out and got the Minegumo out of a single crate during the original event, though I don't think I'm played a single game in it. I did pick up Karl and Dalian by trading in my Sherman, twice, then bought my Sherman back. So 2 T9 premiums for like 10 bucks, seem like a good deal.

That Petro yolo was great. Actually, there's a ship dedicated to yoloing, it's called Paolo Emilio, you really should try make it work.

It's like in chess after the first 10-15 moves you have a game state that is 1 of 1, never played before. The mid-late game will always be much more fascinating than your team or theirs blundering their ships and hanging the match in 5 minutes.

The only ship I didn't have is the Minegumo ! I go t 650 ships! I traded Minegumo for Salem, and I bought Salem back for coal... I got too much coal and I don't know what to do with it ! Minegumo for coal is a great deal!! I play several games and I had a great time!!!! Great video !! GG

trade in coal ships you can just save coal and get again. i traded the GK for the Karl and looking now to see what to trade for this ship.

That petro knew you were coming and didnt aim at you, he shot somewhere else

Any point getting this if you have Yukikaze? Are the 15km really worth it?

I had some spare coal, I traded a ship for the karl johan, bought the traded ship back again with coal, traded it again for the minegumo. Overall I got 2 rare and cool T9 premiums for the price of a T5 premium :D

Im gonna trade in a coal ship to get this since I don't like it and never use it and I can always buy it back, great content and the graphics are amazing!

Most important point for me: only 5.4 KM detection range (best in game). Minegumo is an absolute insane good spotter. In lategame I often focus on spotting to make the team win. You can get easily to 150-200k spotting as a pretty bad player like me. I need to use the short range torps more I guess, rarely use them at all.

This is my new favorite dd! Just do it! Start with the 15km then to the 6km.

My torp DD's I always go stock HP and skip the AR so I can have swift & silent, and Radio Location.

already traded in my khabah and it is very much worth it the ship is really fun to play and strong to

Or if you want to be REALLY risky...get rid of Last Stand - do it! Take Last Stand and Consumables buff for swift in silence. If you're getting in and out of engagements fast, strictly only use that repair to repair your engine if it goes out.

i traded in for the Mini minegumo (yudachi) and absolutely love it

I traded my old dusty Asashio i havent touched her for more than 2 years, amd i got Minegumo and i must say, no regrets had so much fun all tho 1 tier higher than Asashio, but still unique playstyle especially with that great concealement. Totaly recomending getting the Minegumo.

What are your thoughts on trading gato for a minegumo/karl johan?

I traded in my Asashio for Minegumo and only had to pay the ~1700 doubloons difference. Not bad for a T8 trade-in on a T9 I thought. Figured I could always buy Asashio B for cheap next Black Friday event if I want it back but I find I don't play it anyway.

I bought this with my Sherman, and I like it so far. Actually scored my highest ever damage in her just a few days back (242K damage).

I have it and I am rather unsure. 1st, the short range torps are #4 and the long range are #3. This seems backwards, and I have to keep it in mind at all times. Asashio guns are surprisingly hard hitting and late game against damaged DDs are pretty effective. Minegumo guns are supposed to be exactly identical except 1 sec faster reload...... and yet they do not seem as good. I have heard this from others, as well. The long range torps, with all the helps, are still just so-so. I love a good torp boat, and I only like this one.

I can alternativly recommend the Kleber with leg mod. ist also really enjoyable fast torp boat. And the best: no one expect this. this fact shold not be underrated

it is quite possible to use your guns, but you have to know when and when not to. Since you usually have a concealment advantage, you can usually decide whether to fight or not. don't take a fair fight against a high HP gunboat, spot that guy in the hope that allies will take him down only shoot if you can destroy the enemy ship with one or two volleys and can disappear again

I traded my Max Immelmann in for her and don’t regret it. I’ll just rebuy it for coal later.

I think I will wait for a Santa crate. If we could fully trade for it though I would.

I got this thing for free during the java sea event, lost my mind when I got it, thought it was going to be great, kinda garbage tbh, still think it needs a torp rework or different selection of torps

Creating the problem, and selling you the solution

Too late; I already traded for a Minegumo based on your last excellent video on her. Worth it!

Does anyone how many coal ships it takes to get it? I have around 330k coal but have not bought any ships yet.

I somehow ended up with Yoshino and the B version, traded in one of those, dont need 2 of the same.

Thanks PQ, I traded my Hayate for Minegumo, worth the trade

Do you have a Gremyashchy video?

Immlemann for the Minegumo and Odin for the Karl - Two supercontainer ships for two I know I would enjoy - Couldn't be a better time. PQ validation the wind to my sails

I swapped my anhalt (supercontainer gift) for this and it... IS ... AWESOME!!!!!!

the rage levels of seeing your torps die an inch from the target...oh man how did u not launch your computer into space

I traded Anchorage and some pocket change for Minegumo

Its a good torp boat with excellent conceal. Very weak to CVs (they can just hover above you forever) and to smart DD killer boats.

It’s kinda weird that IJN DD premiums don’t have names carved on their ship. Like how they usually were IRL. But hey, Mods does exist.

I'm not sure if you really had the opportunity with the Colbert this close but if you had managed to claim the Harugumo, you would have had Yamamoto's heal and reload buff that could have changed the game. Or if you had insisted on torping the Colbert maybe. Would have been an absolutely epic play

I might trade in the Salem, Des Moines does the job better, and i have other american premiums now

i did for the salem, will get that fun guy back in 2-3 months with coal, no issue. The fun part is those who spent....$$$$$$ i dunno how much for this dd when it was released a few months back must be questioning their choices. Anyway hindsight is 2020 i guess

Can you do the Stord 43 on ship request? Nobody ever talks about it due to being part of the Scharnhorst 43 battlepass

anchorage x minegumo 👀

I traded a coal ship and got it, but it is not letting me rebuy the coal ship I traded in! It says I already own it.

i love Minegumo

How about A henri 4 video pq? Long time I've seen one..and not many people play that these days..

Traded my gato for this ship. I think I ll enjoy it a lot.

Eight torps without reload booster just seems too little. For this kind of playstyle the AL Yukikaze is just better because it get's proper F3's and it's T8 with a more favorable matchup spread.

I traded the freisland for the karl johan IX

i love this DD.. if all DDs hade the same Trop change mic. wound make the life of DD better.

Devstriked a Maine with 2 fishes Minegumo goes KEK 😂

Minegumo is not an OP torpedo boats by any means. She is just infrequently available.

C_W_Poi.... why does that name sound so familar. Player might have featured on a Jingles video.

i dont get why people hate subs and cv's id rather 2 of each than one of these broken tumours.

traded my FDR for this im not a big cv player and prefer dd's been happy with it so far

Play the Sherman again!!!!

Ok, stopped the video and got it. Traded my Ragnar for it. It is a 10 on the fun scale. Never really connected with the Ragnar.

Better than T10 DDs. Good torps and strong guns.

You could argue switching torpedo's lost you that game.

Wow I'm first

Is Dalian worth trading for?

Unfortunately, tonnes of videos on RU-vid about ships that are worth owning, but not a single video about the ships that are not good and could be given away for it. For example, what about the Anchorage tier 8, it could be used to get a tier 9. It is unique, but in my understanding this ship isn't that good.

I traded Moskva for Minegumo

I got minegumo for freee dude in the christmas event

torpido F3 for tier IX yugumo is better

No ship is worth trading for except you have too many coal ships and tons of coal and dubs banked.

I traded for Minegumo and love it. I traded a coal ship I don't play much, since I can always buy it back later. Being able to change torp types in game is super flexible. The 6.5 km torps are a bit challenging to use, but hit like a truck. Takes ballz and skillz. The low detect and smoke are very handy. I have used the guns when it's safe. They're lower DPM than a Shima, but have some alpha. And you're right, positioning is everything, same as most other ships. I took swift in silence instead of survivability and grease the gears. I use the same commander on Asashio.

Day 10 of asking PQ to play the finest Russian BB admiral ushakov with meme lord kuznetsov

How is this ship in anyway better than Yuugumo? All the things you did in this video could have easily been done even better in Yuugumo with F3s

Day 39 of asking PQ to play on Helena

I've played this twice so far, done well both times, and been reported both times. CV's and Subs are fair game, but reporting DD's for doing well *sigh

traded F SSherman for Karl XIV

I wouldn't personally. There is not much this thing does that the yugumo cannot already do. I was disappointed that the Russian tier 9 secondary battleship was not available despite it having the gamble release event almost 4 months before minigumo's event.

Also not worth for the exchange, nice for a couple of rounds perhaps. But it will end up collecting dust in your harbor.

Hayate is arguably a better ship tier for tier anyways no? TRB meant ur already a superior torpedo boat over minegumo other than concealment, which is still usable anyways. Combine with the fact that you have 10th highest HE dpm meant that while you're not going to outgun people, you can easily defend urself better than any other IJN DD. Also tier 9 MM is worse nowadays thx to supership, but since u can meet tier 7 I guess its still somewhat arguable. I see no reason why Hayate is not a superior ship if you want a premium IJN DD.

complains about torps running out, doesnt switch to the longer range torps.... typical PQ

Minegumo is piece of crap. Against CV is impossible to play. I regret to buy it.

WG salesman potato quality made the last 3 videos to promote trade in event,dunno why people still watch this particular channel,maybe blindness is on the rise,why cant he be true to others and call the event what it is smh really,greedy people i guess

you have a obligation to inform your viewers that your sponcored by WG FTC regulations