More DPM, Smoke & Reload Booster: 13.1 Hayate Buff Is Great 

after removing it for FXP, because WG wants us to spend and grind coal for it

saved by the saturation gods

@PitchBlackYeti exactly. Plus it being on bow. Only way to survive that

Many years ago I remember with Shima I torped a Gearing 2 hits and another one later. She died not because the hit but because she was flooding.

My lowest HP in a DD was in a z 44 after eating 3 Jager Torps on my bow that left me with 10 HP.

Sherman and Marceau are still better coal DDs but this buff is a great thing

@@chiracultrainstinct3d629 Marceau yes but sherman , I think this ship is a bit better of sherman after the buff as mixbag to be more usable ship (sherman still situational ship). in case to fight sherman hayete may preemtive torp , later fire gun to hit sherman engine and sherman likely to end up to eating the torp even they have hydro as engine broken , it will pure to lucky to survive shima torp (or two set of shima torp if use torp booster.)

@@chiracultrainstinct3d629 Marceau is garbage. Mostly when its on my team it just dies in few minutes yoloing into enemies. Its ok just if some unicum in div use it, but if they took khaba or kleber instead it would not change anything and works as well. But if people play it solo in randoms, they mostly just die and do nothing usefull.

Just because you've seen a couple of potatoes play the Marceau badly, does not make it garbage, played correctly it is great ship. DPM is like no other. So I find your comment pretty ignorant,, not having played her yourself. 🤔​@vitezslavlorenc3479

@@angel_of_death_666_ I played it. It was so bad that I exchange it for something else.

Yueyang and Hsienyang needed that buff. Hsienyang was essentially just a worse Loyang/Benson. YY had been nerfed so much it was just a worse than its competition. Chung Mu and the rest of the line were always solid though.

Aslain's mod pack, I do believe.

@@ryanbrochu3336 Thanks that's got the version I was looking for!

Skip the Seattle, enjoy Wooster guide complete

Yes Seattle is basically downgrade from Cleveland, you're easier to dev struck and have worse turret angles. Only benefits are heal and 6 upgrade slot that all tier 9 ships get..

Bro wants a farming simulator guide

​@@Majorblood67 The ship is actually named for Worcester Massachusetts, not Wooster Ohio.

Why you need guide? Just hug Island near cap and press you magic radar button, kill DD and farm other ships.

you can buy that special permanent camo from the camo menu for 9000 dubloons (ouch)

The swap option was smoke or torpedo reload. Maybe you're thinking of Harekaze II?

@j_taylor I'm pretty sure it was this ship cause it was WGs video for it and they talked about how to pronounce the ship as everyone was pronouncing it wrong

Maybe the video I saw on it was not the final release

Marceau is a 100% gun boat. Hayate is a hybrid between torp and gun boat with usuable concealment after upgrade. You can build this ship as either role but still capable of performing the other role just fine. For example if you build her a torpedo DD you get faster torps with faster reload but you still capable of being a gun boat with the good fire starter and reload of 3.7 sec. But if you build her a gun boat, you get faster firing guns of 3.1 sec with better alpha damage than Soviet 130mm, 11% fire chance with upgrade and flags, but you are still capable of playing her as a torp DD aswell with hard hitting torp + torpedo reload booster AND you also get to keep the smoke at the same time, the Marceau doesn't get either of those consumables.

Yes. Don't even try Marceau in randoms without div...it is just pure pain to play that.

Different guns. Different torps. I think it's also a different hull.

2*5 torps vs 1*6; 3*2 127mm main gun (same as shima) vs 5*2 100mm main gun; The hull is closer to a shima hull

@@jedz5151 wow, so it is Shima with better gun reload.? 😲😲

​@@oscarkiloecho6269Very close to that, yes. Shimakaze has 3x5 torpedoes, while Hayate has 2x5 of Shima's Type 93 (12km). Shima is slightly faster (39kn vs. 37kn Hayate) and also has much better concealment. Shima has I think the best concealment (5.4km) in the game, tied with UU Gearing. Hayate has 6.1km concealment, same as Smaland. Honestly, I got Hayate for the Torpedo Reload Booster, and am excited to see the ship become competitive.

Maybe not, it's better if you think of it as a 2nd line hybrid gunboat. It's a bit like gunboat build Yugumo. Good DPM and alpha, but you're probably not going to win knife fights. Doesn't make it a bad ship by any means, but it's also not OP or anything.

@@Joshua-fi4ji Now it has almost same DPM as Halland so no problem to win some fight with that. Of course if you don't run into things like Smaland, Marceau, Daring. But to be fair almost every other DD is dead when you meet Smaland :D

Sorry my friend, but this says more about you than about the ship.