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Should You Try Job Hopping For More Money? There's advice that you should be a job hopper and only stay 1-2 years in a job in order to earn the most money. In this video I'm going to break down if this is a solid strategy or not.
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@davidsrinivasan7764
@davidsrinivasan7764 2 года назад
If loyalty was a virtue a lot of companies would keep and promote their staff, nowadays it's just profits, likeability, etc over actual human equity and talent I'd say.
@Nelphoto
@Nelphoto 2 года назад
Agreed!
@crystalcole888
@crystalcole888 2 года назад
@limelight81 nicely stated. I definitely feel like I've become more cynical. That disappoints me because I love my profession, but I'm happy that I won't be stumbling over the same roadblock. At least I hope I wont. You seem like you have a healthy perspective and I could see why you would like to discourage negativity. I just wish that I had discovered my new way of thinking much earlier in my career. A little bit more insight into Human Nature would have helped me grow professionally a lot faster.
@PeachwiseSyndrome
@PeachwiseSyndrome 2 года назад
Worked for a couple of big players. Truer words cannot be said. When you promote a person who is shit at the job just because he/she is your friend or relative and not the best performers every time, of course everyone is going to start hopping to anything else lmao
@crystalcole888
@crystalcole888 2 года назад
@@PeachwiseSyndrome so it's really not just me? Have you really seen a person's popularity be more important than their job skills? Even at the higher levels that you worked in? I mean, I keep hearing it over and over, but I didn't think it was as rampant as it seems to be. In your opinion, what is the best strategy to get ahead in the environment that you work in?
@PeachwiseSyndrome
@PeachwiseSyndrome 2 года назад
@@crystalcole888 i saw it in Amazon's customer support so yeah. Shit hit the fan when 90% of the floor quit in the span of one year. All top performers never got anything or had to wait until all popular people are promoted. Good luck tanking rage from customers for 4-5 years. You will be a lifeless shell. And yeah shit hit the fan when a woman director called and made an intentional escalation to jeff bezos to test the floor. All of those promoted ppl failed procedures by a LOT
@davidfastje8469
@davidfastje8469 2 года назад
I don't think he understands that the salary increases are not 5%, 8%, or 10%. Almost every job change I've done has come with a 40%-50% salary increase AND better benefits. Granted I am less than 10 years into my career, I can't imagine how much it would have hurt me financially to stay in my first entry level position for 5 years!?
@ALifeAfterLayoff
@ALifeAfterLayoff 2 года назад
If you're routinely getting 50% increases for lateral moves, then it means you were EXTREMELY under-compensated to begin with.
@thethinkingstone9248
@thethinkingstone9248 2 года назад
@@ALifeAfterLayoff So true. But I agree with David as well as I’ve recently jumped 80% by accumulating some technical certs.
@Holdeenio
@Holdeenio 2 года назад
Sadly getting promoted within one company is becoming tougher and tougher - favouritism and pigeon holing have been big barriers to progression for me. Leaving one company to another secured me a significant raise but also opened new doors for me in terms of my next career move. I see no issue with changing companies every 2+ years, as long as it’s clear to see why they’ve moved (greater responsibilities etc). We’re no longer in a working world where loyalty is rewarded. At the start of a corporate career now, it’s far more lucrative and efficient for progression to look externally unfortunately.
@thethinkingstone9248
@thethinkingstone9248 2 года назад
@Sarah Getske Companies take advantage of all the secrecy behind salaries to keep people in the dark and enslaved. I was in a similar boat as you and leaving was my best option.
@haha-cm6pg
@haha-cm6pg 2 года назад
@@thethinkingstone9248 I have my certs. I got cissp on begining of 2021. Still at the same salary and my employer like I didn't got anything. Because I am with them for over 7 years. My only benefits I work from home for more than 4 years and helps me to stay home with my kids. I am really under paid.
@DevylsAdvocut
@DevylsAdvocut 2 года назад
A 5k bump for doing a similar job is plenty incentive. Many people are not concerned with trying to claw their way up the corporate ladder, they just want to make what they can and that’s ok. Most normal people don’t want to back stab and ass kiss their way through life…
@drtij_dzienz
@drtij_dzienz 2 года назад
For real. At a lot of companies the raises are less than inflation. Jumping to new companies can be the only way to keep your compensation aligned to the market.
@IcyViolin
@IcyViolin Год назад
It depends on how much you’re starting with, I guess. I wouldn’t jump for a base salary increase from 200k to 205k. I think around 20k-30k more for a similar job would be enough for most people. 5k-10k is questionable to me.
@Ian-eb2io
@Ian-eb2io Год назад
Also the ladder gets narrower the higher you go. You can't have everyone becoming department head or whatever, so really your only option to get more pay is move. Because inevitably when you stay at one company your stagnates.
@osirisofthesouth2853
@osirisofthesouth2853 Год назад
I’m not jumping for 5k that is wack af
@aaronharlow2137
@aaronharlow2137 2 года назад
I was told that the people who make the most money are people who switch jobs every two to three years. After a while, a company can only give you so many raises, so you don't benefit by staying there for a very long time. Also, when you leave, you take the experience of many different companies with you, which makes you more valuable and qualified for a management position.
@mementomori29231
@mementomori29231 2 года назад
You do hit a max limit. I have been told by recruiters and some companies that my pay is above their high levels and they just don't have the budget to go higher. Once you hit that limit getting large increases is uncommon.
@dacripe
@dacripe 2 года назад
This is completely true. I get big raises jumping to other companies. Anything over a year and no one seems to care that I have moved. Every single company I worked for never promoted within and gave 3% or less raises. "You did awesome this year! Here is $500 for the next year." Bye.....
@solabonafide
@solabonafide 2 года назад
True in my case. I work in finance and could only see significant bumps when I moved from companies and to different cities.
@ildsc
@ildsc 2 года назад
@@mementomori29231 I don't believe that is true if you work in corporate. In theory there are fatcats at the very top with 7 figure salaries. I've seen some truly incompetent people job hop to 6 figures. These large corporates have no shortage of money. Get your slice of the pie.
@Ian-eb2io
@Ian-eb2io Год назад
@@mementomori29231 Luckily we have a bit of a skills shortage, so companies are over a barrel. They simply don't get applicants if they don't offer a bit more. Bizarrely they inevitably stagnate their employees' pay forcing them to move elsewhere to get a pay increase. Then that same company has to pay more to bring in someone new.
@theresa78201
@theresa78201 2 года назад
If one has an abusive manager, taking another job is an investment in one's mental health and family life--even if the job pays slightly less!
@TLM860
@TLM860 2 года назад
Definitely agree with that. If you have a bad manager and can't do anything about it, time to look elsewhere!
@Homegrown_Values
@Homegrown_Values 2 года назад
Amen! To that
@christinamorales6887
@christinamorales6887 2 года назад
Exactly toxic work environment and toxic boss.
@deborahclarke1875
@deborahclarke1875 2 года назад
Agreed. I was being driven mad by an incompetent Manageress, I handed in my notice, Laotop,Mobile, ID pass. It was a temp Senior Admin role. I was just getting frustrated. My health comes first.
@moviesfan5513
@moviesfan5513 2 года назад
Change manager to management.
@raenaj4749
@raenaj4749 2 года назад
Has seriously worked for me. Each time it’s a $20,000 or $30,000 annual raise. Nowhere near what I’d get if I stayed put
@chinese302
@chinese302 2 года назад
I was at my current company for 7 years with minimal increases. Recently moved to a company and my salary increased $30k. I wish I had done it sooner
@solabonafide
@solabonafide 2 года назад
Congrats! Totally agree!
@nigelstanford4
@nigelstanford4 2 года назад
This will not be me!
@novadhd
@novadhd 2 года назад
I would say most of my job hopping is due to leaving toxic work environments. I have been in long term and short term roles. Good info.
@HH-le1vi
@HH-le1vi 2 года назад
If I don't foresee a promotion after 2 years then that tells me I need to find something else. I'm not going to be stagnant just because a recruiter doesn't like people with ambition.
@MannyLoxx2010
@MannyLoxx2010 Год назад
Exactly!! I'm not worried about what a kiss ass recruiter thinks or believes! I'm making $84,000 to $96,000 per year + bonuses. I have never stayed at a company more than 5 years. My usual stay is 2 to 4 years. I'm at Google, now!
@aveidasimms5197
@aveidasimms5197 Год назад
Totally agree!
@co_7523
@co_7523 9 месяцев назад
Exactly! I couldn't give a damn!
@neygnow
@neygnow 2 года назад
I have to disagree on this one . I started my career with a goal to make money . I job hop until I reach a ceiling and start making six figures in early 30s. With each job, I gain a new skill so that experience helps you on later in your career. Also each time I leave a company , the company was more than willing to pay what I was worth . I declined always. Now when I hit the ceiling I stayed with the company for 7 years who laid me off because I was making too much money . Companies worry about their bottom line so save your money and never worry about job hopping. I retired early at 41 and now work as a consultant if I want. I have multiple job gaps in between jobs and I get asked in interviews about it all the time . I’m honest and I tell them I took a break for health reasons. I still get hired with more pay because good people are harder to find than good jobs. So get good at what you do and save your money so you feel confident to either say no or ask for more money !
@quarantinelife.
@quarantinelife. 2 года назад
Nice! What field are you in? Business consulting?
@neygnow
@neygnow 2 года назад
@@quarantinelife. Yes, mostly IT and business consulting for software
@sashablack6963
@sashablack6963 2 года назад
@@neygnow do you mind me asking about your education? I am a recent graduate from a non-technical degree and I would love to work in IT. Your comment about how you managed to leverage your career is very impressive and helpful for a newbie like me :')!
@neygnow
@neygnow 2 года назад
@@sashablack6963 There are also Business Analysts and Project Managers within the IT space. They don't necessarily have an IT background but industry knowledge so they can help develop software.
@neygnow
@neygnow 2 года назад
@@sashablack6963 I wrote you a lengthy reply but somehow it disappeared so if you didn't see it, here it is again. I graduated with a business degree and majored in information systems. A lot of my colleagues don't have a degree or IT background and do really well. So it's definitely possible to get into IT with a non-technical degree. I graduated during the dot com bust and finding a job was difficult for graduates with no experience. My advice is to try and get into an entry-level IT position through your company or search for entry-level IT positions like QA Tester. Entry-level positions are willing to train. Once you get a year of experience, you will become marketable. Hope that helps. Good Luck!
@jimmaag4274
@jimmaag4274 2 года назад
I'm 55 now and my biggest regret is how long I stayed with each company. Hop away! Those 1% to 2% raises just don't get you anywhere.
@poopzassshit
@poopzassshit 2 года назад
I like your videos much more than other "RU-vid recruiters". Your calm demeanor is a good contrast to the loud boisterous, "trying to prove something" attitude of other recruiters. Thank you.
@MissKxoxo
@MissKxoxo 2 года назад
I stayed for four years at the last 3 of my 4 jobs. Four years seems to be the magic number for me. I recently resigned from my job that I was only at for 2 years. I was overworked and under appreciated. Now that I’m 40, I’m really trying to be very selective and choose a company I can stay at long-term because I know once you get older ageism comes to play.
@Badjazy
@Badjazy Год назад
That depends on the occupation. Ageism isn't a thing in some places.
@JustMe99999
@JustMe99999 7 месяцев назад
If you're in tech, yes, ageism is very real and you have to be really careful about leaving jobs unless you have something else lined up.
@SoulsJourney
@SoulsJourney 2 года назад
I've read that companies look at people who stay in one job for a long time as if they have no drive or motivation, and expect to see you move at least every 2-3 years.
@Lifeissorich.
@Lifeissorich. 2 года назад
I think you should leave every 4-5 years.
@TLM860
@TLM860 2 года назад
@@Lifeissorich. I can see that
@RandomFandomDragon
@RandomFandomDragon 2 года назад
@@Lifeissorich. - leave, or move? I've been with my current company 9 years, and have changed position several times. I haven't tried to go into management, mostly because I'm not sure I have the right temperament, but I've made both lateral moves to learn more and moves up for better pay.
@Lifeissorich.
@Lifeissorich. 2 года назад
@@RandomFandomDragon yeah move too. You shouldn't stagnant in your position. I have the personality for management but I'm 23 so nobody's going to have me manage in the corporate world yet. I think what you've done is just as good.
@MannyLoxx2010
@MannyLoxx2010 Год назад
​@@Lifeissorich. 4 to 5 is pushing it!! 2 to 4 is the max you should stay at any gig, if you aren't moving up every year or two!!
@troymann5115
@troymann5115 2 года назад
The distinction between job hopping and job upgrading is useful. As a 20 year veteran in the IT sector I have continued to ruthlessly build my skills to the point where almost all of my work is sort of a hybrid leadership and implementation of cutting edge tech. When a company shows they have no hope of selling a high tech product or they have no hope of delivering on sound architectures I leave. Not for more money, but for the opportunity to keep doing what I love. I upgrade my situation to keep being on the top tier of my craft. I would rather be a thoroughbred than a nag.
@sawyer4981
@sawyer4981 2 года назад
Business will do what they want, but I do think it's ironic that they will say "don't bother interviewing that person, they've had 10 jobs in 10 years". Meanwhile, they've been through 10 employees at the position they're hiring for just in this year alone. 😂 Double standards aside, you'd think they'd take the hint that maybe after the first couple people leave, perhaps they are the problem.
@christinamorales6887
@christinamorales6887 2 года назад
Yep they are the common denominator
@ellie_ellie_ellie
@ellie_ellie_ellie 11 месяцев назад
Omg, this comment is so harsh but true!!! The employers should actually reflect on themselves before judging the candidates 🤣🤣
@ArielCarso
@ArielCarso 2 года назад
You are telling the truth. I am mid-career professional that has a "job hopping" resume. I always have to defend that almost all of my positions have been contract with no opportunity to go permanent.
@nigelstanford4
@nigelstanford4 2 года назад
Thank you for this great advice.
@withpikachu2402
@withpikachu2402 2 года назад
I see a lot of job hopping in IT jobs. That didn't hurt them at all.
@haha-cm6pg
@haha-cm6pg 2 года назад
And they make more money every hop.
@thebeesknees745
@thebeesknees745 2 года назад
Employers compensate on experience. If you can prove 5 years at 3 different companies, that will look better than 5 years at 1 company. To a boss that isn't hell bent on his business stagnating anyway. People who work at alot of places have a wide range of skills. Case in point, I'm a machinist and industrial maintenance tech who is working for a hardscape company as a foreman and heavy equipment operator. That tells employers I'm precise, handy, and can manage. And yes, I am under compensated.
@joshvar
@joshvar 2 года назад
Especially if you’re going for better pay and higher position than there’s nothing wrong with job hopping
@PlanetX369
@PlanetX369 2 года назад
This. I work in Infosec and it's booming
@ThinkBeFree99
@ThinkBeFree99 2 года назад
Why isn't being paid more accepted? Are we not allowed to get paid well?. Its bad enough that even after getting a higher paying job, we are likely still undervalued and underpaid.
@GaelinW
@GaelinW 2 года назад
I think he made the point that theere is nothing wrong with wanting to get paid if that is how you want to work. But companies will eventually be able to see from your resume that "you're only in it for the money." And if you're hopping only for the money and not increasing your skillset and role responsibilities, you're going to quickly (10 or so years) reach the top pay for your existing skillset and have no where else to hop. You'll be the 40/50-something guy with the same skillset they can pay a 20/30 -something less for.
@kilovolt2494
@kilovolt2494 2 года назад
Same question here. I come to a company, they look at my resume and see I hopped every 2 years. Yes, I am money-driven, like anyone in the world. I want to make more. When the company has hired me, they won’t just bump my salary up 50% out of the blue. I am already theirs, there is no point of fighting for me. Is that a problem that I want to get the maximum? Same thing with the companies: why do they take the most qualified candidates? Take the average and stick with it, same logic! Bottom line: I hope in 10 years I will accumulate enough money to start a business, you will _always_ be underpaid working for any company in the world, regardless of how much they pay you.
@MyrMerek
@MyrMerek 2 года назад
I was once granted access to some internal documents of my company, the client was paying my conpany for my services the approximate more than 3x amount of what I was being paid by the company for doing my job at the client.
@GaelinW
@GaelinW 2 года назад
@@MyrMerek - Yep. Several years ago I worked as a contractor for a company. I came across the paperwork for the contract. The company I was working through was charging 2x what I was getting per hour.
@MyrMerek
@MyrMerek 2 года назад
People should have one thing clear: when you are being hired, you are not taking money of the to yourself but bringing more money to the company, so know your worth.
@amorelus
@amorelus 2 года назад
If you were making 50k and offered 80k? Would you decline for "loyalty" and commit to managers who don't care about you? And if they do care, there's a limit of what they do for you? I left for strategic reasons. I wanted to learn. Even if it ends up the role was not the perfect fit or me or I'm not aligned correctly. I still use it as Opportunity to Learn and grow. I would not get as far today or know things as well as I do without those past lessons. Learning is my final decisions to job hop. My incentive is the 40% or the rare case I went from 50k to 80k. If a current company does not have a path for me to learn, grow and find my worth and value. Then...it's a dead end job for me and I'm gone. I will not sacrifice one more year, based on Leadership's promises.
@CrazyMonkeySays
@CrazyMonkeySays 2 года назад
I've got a bump of 240% in my salary with a pretty decent signing package in 6 months, changed from a Junior position to a mid-level position and honestly the salary I had to begin with wasn't low and bad at all. What I can say is look for opportunities outside your comfort zone and outside of your physical zone as well, sometimes remote jobs will offer a much better payment option. Always be applying. Play the corporate game and get out of corporate as soon as possible. It's only beneficial for the companies.
@thethinkingstone9248
@thethinkingstone9248 2 года назад
This is so timely.
@jghothot
@jghothot 2 года назад
Extremely! Thank you for this. I needed to hear it.
@fran2911
@fran2911 2 года назад
Maybe people wouldn't "job jump" if they were compensated fairly in the first place
@grazynawolska8160
@grazynawolska8160 2 года назад
There is so little opportunities for promotions now a days though! It makes no sense to sit there like a duck for decades hoping they will some day see your worth. For example my last job, you could only move up if someone above you quit or went on maternity. Problem was this was really rare. They stayed in their positions for years. You couldn't move to another department cause people there with dept experience were waiting for those above them to leave too lol. My current job has no position to eventually move into. I would need significant degrees for this. In a department I work closely with the manager just quit. Their immediate subordinate held her job for 4 years. She knows it inside out. She even covered much of the managers job when the manager went on a year maternity leave. You think they are promoting her? Nope. They are looking for an outside hire. In my opinion she should apply for manager position anyway and interview. When they dont chose her she should know where she stands and try to get managers position elsewhere. It's how it is now. No possibility to move up, and if it comes up it goes to an outside hire.
@drtij_dzienz
@drtij_dzienz 2 года назад
Yeah the video is like “someone who gets promoted 3 times will make more than somebody who takes lateral moves” I mean yeah no duh but … if you aren’t getting promoted, you should just stay until they lay you off? Being at one company for a long time one would become very stuck in their ways.
@honest8bob
@honest8bob 2 года назад
Everywhere Ive worked in the past 20 years just eliminates the open position.
@malbecmikegrey996
@malbecmikegrey996 2 года назад
Back in the 1980s, I had just such an interview experience. My last two jobs had been for 4.5 and 6 years, but the interviewer thought them short periods. He asked why I had left; I asked him why his company had pulled out of (European country). His response was that they didn't make enough money there, so I queried why that wasn't reason enough for me. His attitude then led me to curtail the interview and walk out.
@moviesfan5513
@moviesfan5513 2 года назад
Fantastic answer.
@Ash-gj2lf
@Ash-gj2lf Год назад
If 4-6 years isn’t long enough stay at a job then what the heck
@TheBusttheboss
@TheBusttheboss Год назад
Your attitude was bad as well.
@kesayo
@kesayo 6 месяцев назад
I had a hiring manager tell me during an interview that he didn’t want someone who’s constantly checking for better opportunities instead of focusing on their work. Well if you paid everyone their market value, we wouldn’t have to keeping checking it for you. I didn’t say it out loud, but I definitely didn’t accept their offer.
@GHO5tMod3
@GHO5tMod3 2 месяца назад
@@Ash-gj2lf that was back then where most people could afford to stay at 1-2 jobs until retirement
@ringorango529
@ringorango529 2 года назад
People job hop because they were bored? lol This shows how unrealistic the HR ideological bubble is. If the big four consulting themselves already expect employees to quit after 2 years, because they themselves have calculated it by giving terrible salary with a hell of workload, what does HR expect? HR driven by the ideology of dog loyalty like this shouldn't exist anymore in 2021. If for a tech job, HR has put a lot of leetcode barrier in the selection process, but still want a dog-loyalty, that's a screwed company. No wonder corporate management is full of useless snakes. Rather than competent people. Competent people are always those at the bottom-line employee. And those who are competent rarely could withstand the stress of giving high-quality work and playing the political game at the same time. So they quit. While those who are incompetent, work average, have more energy to kiss management ass, would be able to stay and get promotions. After that, they find a management job at another company and spread the cancer lol
@ALifeAfterLayoff
@ALifeAfterLayoff 2 года назад
Yes, that's one of many reasons. Specifically stated by those candidates in interviews.
@ringorango529
@ringorango529 2 года назад
And to get an interview, the resume must be "clean".....
@anhnguyenduy6861
@anhnguyenduy6861 2 года назад
So true bro, I'm in consulting big4 too 😂 tech people like us got no time for political shjt, and corporate just promote useless sheet that's good at ass kissing
@sarrjel
@sarrjel Год назад
My understanding is that it’s actually bad to be working for the same company longer than 5 years. You have to think like a free agent and keep up with industry standards for pay and experience with the up to date software and hardware. Most of the companies out there don’t care about the employee and if they have a problem hiring you because you worked somewhere for 2 years then that’s their problem, not yours.
@marwanelmounajjed
@marwanelmounajjed 2 года назад
Absolutely, job hopping is the way to go, spend 2 years in a company then hop to another. We were born to search for the ultimate living conditions. We move from the villages to suburbs looking for jobs in the city, then we thought about travelling to another country and start fresh over there. Too bad you can't hop in marriages that would be OP😂
@YouTubePurgetheblackplague
@YouTubePurgetheblackplague 2 года назад
It's called an open marriage agreement. Something that you both legally sign.
@Bk_owns
@Bk_owns 2 года назад
I used to job hop 3x a month lol
@solabonafide
@solabonafide 2 года назад
Just stay single. Marriage is a headache and people are insane nowadays.
@YouTubePurgetheblackplague
@YouTubePurgetheblackplague 2 года назад
@@solabonafide test tube children now a days
@rain_and_daisies
@rain_and_daisies 2 года назад
Wow, this is a horrible comment.
@martika172
@martika172 2 года назад
Hi! Your videos and few courses helped me to land a job recently! Thank you kindly :D Now I entered the phase of career planning, so this video is very well timed
@Phoenix-pm2qr
@Phoenix-pm2qr Год назад
My best friends dad was just layed off after being with the same company for 28 years. They said his role was "closed" and he needed to leave by the end of the week.... eye opening. Learning not to be loyal to companies as they are not loyal to you.
@kirkian1828
@kirkian1828 2 года назад
i've only been working for about 2 years and i just recently (like a month ago!) left this first job i'd gotten out of uni and moved to another one. it's been okay, nothing great, but now I've gotten another offer from a big company and i've sort of been on the fence about what to do. I found your channel while preparing for interviews back then and i'm so glad I did. Sorry for the long story, but I just wanted to let you know that you've been a huge help in this weird time - love all your insights and advice for navigating the corporate world haha. Thank you for all your work and putting these videos out there!
@shortcityvlogs
@shortcityvlogs 8 месяцев назад
Did u accept the offer?
@staceyleigh7818
@staceyleigh7818 2 года назад
I love your channel and all the information and advice you give! Thank you! ❤️
@alsilvae4704
@alsilvae4704 2 года назад
I usually agree with your videos but not this time. Job hopping helped me with my current raise, I am loyal to my salary and benefits.
@IcyViolin
@IcyViolin Год назад
Job hopping is absolutely the way to go. You just have to do it correctly. Your definition of job upgrading is exactly what many software engineers think of job hopping as. Great content! I’ve watched more than a hundred of your videos already.
@pcluvsmusic
@pcluvsmusic 2 года назад
Recruiters should not always jump to the assumption that candidates are job hopping when they see short stays at companies. Some individuals have to work contracting/consulting jobs which can end on a short notice for various reasons. In a competitive job market, people have to take whatever is available before their big break or dream job opportunity comes up.
@kellykerr5225
@kellykerr5225 2 года назад
Thank you. I used your advice and I got another job in my career with much better benefits and way more pay. A recruiter found me. Thanks to you.
@TheCoolOwen
@TheCoolOwen 2 года назад
I job hop out of necessity. Lay offs, firings, long durations with low pay, poor working conditions. Most employers from the big corporations to the small companies to the municipal governments are terrible, soul-crushing places to ruin your life.
@jonathanrferrer
@jonathanrferrer 7 месяцев назад
Wow, this is great advice. Thank you very much.
@blktauna
@blktauna 2 года назад
I like that guy who says he wants dedication. I bet he lays people off without notice or reason. I have to say when I was younger I fell into the trap of believing if you worked hard for a company, they'd promote you and take care of you as a valued employee. After many years, I can state confidently this is a lie and especially after Covid, the workers have seen its a lie.
@amanacatandhisdog8836
@amanacatandhisdog8836 2 года назад
I didn’t switch mostly for the money but I did leave food service for retail and out of a toxic environment to a better one. It was a bit more per hour but it was the industry switch and a quality environment one. It depends on the industry some like restaurants close or do have high turnover.
@dhunches
@dhunches 2 года назад
Your darned if you do hop, your darned if you don't! If employers can't pay to keep up with inflation. The employee has no recorse but to keep their checking balance up! Yes, Ive been to Interviews that turned into interrogations.
@Foreman1329
@Foreman1329 2 года назад
I strongly disagree with you on this topic. First off, changing job every 2 years might just be that you want to see new things, face new challenges, meet new people. This is my case as I tend to get bored quickly if I do not have a constant challenge in my work. In addition to this, I find the experience that you get from different job places more valuable than the same amount of time in a single company.And by the way 2 years it's hell of a long time, I would not consider job hopping anything after 1,5 years at a certain position. Secondly, "job hopping" does not necessarily imply not having clear ideas about your career. For example, If you started as an analyst and then moved to Investment analyst and finally to Senior equity analyst, well you changed job every 2 year but in a reasoned way. You upgraded your career rapidly by "job hopping". Lastly, the key thing for me is that the salary increase are not 5-8% but more in line with 30%. Assuming even just an average rate of 20% every 2 years, with that income invested at 8-9%% annual , well you're looking at hundred of thousands of dollars in just a ten years span.
@ALifeAfterLayoff
@ALifeAfterLayoff 2 года назад
You should watch my update to this video where I explain what job hopping is and what it isn't. Also, if you're making regular 30% increases in salary every 1.5 years, you were VERY underpaid to begin with.
@ce551029
@ce551029 2 года назад
Can you talk about job offers need you to relocate? Is it worth it, especially for people with families. What is a typical relocation assistance package?
@themadmachinist8637
@themadmachinist8637 2 года назад
It depends on the industry. I'm in manufacturing and aside from the pay increase I am also getting skills from these various jobs that I would never get at one shop. So I'm making myself more valuable by staying on the leading edge of technologies and techniques for manufacturing because I'm always on the look out for a shop that can teach me the next big skill. Now my strategy is that I intend to be an entrepreneur so I need to be an expert at every aspect of this industry I intend to be a leader in. I do understand your point as well and that's probably more prevalent in the office type settings than in skilled trades.
@shrnicolle
@shrnicolle 2 года назад
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@shrnicolle 2 года назад
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@shrnicolle 2 года назад
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@theplaintiff5450
@theplaintiff5450 2 года назад
Yes, the only way to get ahead in your career is to seek out new opportunities. A corporation nowadays will not promote you internally, they will go outside the firm to fill a higher role. I’m sorry to disagree with you, but promotions don’t happen anymore. People stay as entry level employees for 5,10+ years now. I’m saying this as someone who has actively fought to try and keep candidates through promotions, only to be told no by senior leaders. That being said, flopping around from job to job like a fish on the deck isn’t good either. Hopping must come with a strategy, and as you hop up the ladder you must stay longer and longer at a role. I stayed at my first job for 15 months, then I moved to a senior role for 2.5 years, then I became a junior manager for 5 years, then a senior manager for 8 years. That’s job hopping, but it’s hopping up the ladder. None of these roles were achieved by internal promotions.
@alarriag1
@alarriag1 2 года назад
This is very relative. This assumes you can ‘control’ your career stability. Either by choice or by force, the first 15 years of my career have been in five different roles and three different industries. Although there’s a common technical denominator in all of them, the diversity of knowledge and skills has helped me adapt to new roles, particularly when I was forced to leave one and never by fault of my own. Be careful with trying too hard to have a ‘stable’ career because you might end up without the tools and skills to adapt to new roles, particularly if you’re forced to.
@edwinfndz
@edwinfndz 2 года назад
5 roles within 15 years sounds reasonable. This is more targeted towards those that have 15 positions in 15 companies over 15 years.
@alarriag1
@alarriag1 2 года назад
@@edwinfndz Granted, but where do you draw the line?. In software development 4 years is mid-career. In other engineering disciplines 7 years is mid-career, and in law, 10 years is mid-career.
@Ian-eb2io
@Ian-eb2io Год назад
This advice seems to be based on old school corporations with many layers of management available for "career growth". Many fields simply don't work like that. There is no career path in the old sense. For example if you're an engineer you'll get to be a senior engineer within 15 years without having to do any kind of planning.
@MannyLoxx2010
@MannyLoxx2010 Год назад
The thing is, most employees will not get promoted 2, 3, 4 or 5 times by working at one company. You'll get lucky to get promoted once or twice in a 5 to 10 year spand at that company. Most of us don't want to wait 5-10 years to see a major hourly or salary increase!
@drtij_dzienz
@drtij_dzienz 2 года назад
This video is confusing because he also has one saying not to stay at a company
@callmebigpapa
@callmebigpapa 2 года назад
This is true not only for hiring managers etc but for your co-workers. Since everyone uses linkedin when I look at new team members to see what their background is to see where they might fit on our team and I see them hopping every year....I consider them to be already on the way out so I will not help or mentor them since they are already gone, waste of my and the companies time.....
@bairfreedom
@bairfreedom 2 года назад
I would say that it depends on the career field that you are in. I happen to be an IT guy. if you're not quitting your job every two to three years so you can gain experience in other fields you'll never go up and you'll be pigeonholed into one specific type of job. I got too comfortable in my current position and I'm looking at positions paying people with my skillset 15,000 more than I'm getting paid right now I'm job hunting now after 10 years.
@myothercarisadelorean8957
@myothercarisadelorean8957 Год назад
I feel you!!! I also work in IT. Been doing it now just over 10 years. Currently feeling stuck in my role and def feel pigeonholed. My department basically went from doing IT, to doing IT admin bitch work. And to make things worse, other departments dump their work on us and our boss gives no push back. Slowly looking what else is out there but dam.... the older you get the harder to move. I'm only 39 but I don't have that drive anymore like when I as 21 to say F you to my employer and land role elsewhere.
@TheLittlePenguinDude
@TheLittlePenguinDude 2 года назад
I read an article in HBR says that the how much optimal time per job for max salary growth without having your career impacted by "job hopping"... That duration is 2yrs. In my case, I have about 7yrs in the workforce,and have never been in a position for more than 2 yrs, and I am glad, because that helped me increase my salary about 50% per job change... and that job change frecuency never had a negative impact on my job prospects
@danielschein6845
@danielschein6845 2 года назад
Maybe a few hiring managers need to ask themselves why this strategy works. 1. Why are you paying the new hire with 5 years experience more than you are paying the guy you hired fresh out of school 5 years ago? 2. When you are looking to hire someone to supervise the two people in #1, why are you hiring an outsider rather than the guy who was loyal for 5 years?
@ttime5756
@ttime5756 2 года назад
Exactly. The system is broken and the only way to exploit it as a worker is to job hop. Otherwise you’ll just get your 1-3 col raise and in many years inflation will outpace you. The first year you get a job will be the actual most amount of money you make.
@Ian-eb2io
@Ian-eb2io Год назад
They'll undervalue you, give you bad salary adjustments that are not even enough to keep up with inflation and finally spend a fortune to replace you. Then they'll repeat the cycle.
@lillianp8900
@lillianp8900 2 года назад
I like job hopping because I get bored at the same job
@tomchristopher71
@tomchristopher71 2 года назад
I have worked in the seasonal industry of school bus driving and summer camps in the last ten years. I also tried a career change and no matter how many times I put part time or seasonal in front of the job title on my resume, people think that I am a job hopper. Sometimes, you take the work that you find and relish in the fact that you are called back each season. You have qualities that the employer wants back each year. As a job seeker, you need to emphasize that.
@eliarbaiza
@eliarbaiza 2 года назад
What is your opinion on leaving jobs due to not liking the boss or coworkers?
@GWo14
@GWo14 2 года назад
So, what do I do if I keep getting a job and realizing the work environment is toxic/hazardous. Now my Resume is starting to stack and look like a job hopper. How do I avoid this? Stay in a miserable situation for 2 years because it looks okay on a resume?
@ALifeAfterLayoff
@ALifeAfterLayoff 2 года назад
Be more selective with your interviewing.
@pinklobelia2389
@pinklobelia2389 2 года назад
During the interview, Try to find out how many years the people that you will be working with have been in their current roles. If many of them have been there for around a year or so, especially if the job is not entry level, the group probably has high turnover and I would not take the job. Also try to gauge personalities and if the job has what you are looking for. If your current job is have a negative impact on your mental health, find something else even if it means job hopping.
@GWo14
@GWo14 2 года назад
@@pinklobelia2389 This is what I have come to. Ive had an unlucky string, of not being ABLE to be selective in need of cash and finding out rapidly that the work place is toxic/hazardous. This has become a frustrating contention because now I appear to be job hopping.
@pinklobelia2389
@pinklobelia2389 2 года назад
@ G-Wo 14 I’m sorry for you experience. Many of us have been there and don’t let this video discourage you. Just because one may have job hopped doesn’t mean their career is over. Just don’t tell potential employers that you left due to a toxic work environment and come up with something like the work was not as expected, lack of job stability or whatever. People have legit reasons for having to leave different jobs not covered in this video. Never let a job affect your mental health though. I left my last employer for that same reason even though the career had good potential. I’m doing something less ideal now with a previous employer but employees are treated much better. Job hopping isn’t ideal but it’s not a death sentence and even managers and directors do it.
@BoringTroublemaker
@BoringTroublemaker Год назад
I’ve been with my current company for almost 10 years and just got a $15k raise this year. I am finishing my degree this year (which they helped pay for) and I am planning to shift careers to one that is in the same industry but in a different area, but a lot of the advanced specialization and skills that I have learned here will be directly transferable. If I had been job hopping for the last decade I wouldn’t be in the position I am now to make intentional, calculated moves into a more fulfilling career that’s far better suited to my passions and aligned with my values. As cringy as people think it is for people to say this- I am genuinely grateful for opportunities this job and company have given me, but none of it would have been possible if I were jumping around to grab a few more bucks at every chance.
@raymondcai1553
@raymondcai1553 2 года назад
Is it worth being promoted to a role I’m not as keen for to get the higher pay grade and then move into the role I was interested in? Or just keep working to the one I want? I know job hopping isn’t looked highly for an individual at my work
@reservoirsigns
@reservoirsigns 2 года назад
You should do a video on finding time to interview when you have a full time job.
@cp3onmtv963
@cp3onmtv963 2 года назад
Pretty simple, you make time. Instead of using off days to rest, if you’re serious about finding a new job you use them to schedule interviews. May not always be easy but try to get them on your scheduled off days if possible. Be willing to interview over the phone or zoom. If that works out, then you can go in person once some rapport is established
@ttime5756
@ttime5756 2 года назад
Yeah if you hit the ceiling on the individual contributor path fast that’s when you settle into a job for a bit until other companies start to pay higher for the same skillset.
@LucretiaYeh
@LucretiaYeh 2 года назад
Job hopping is expected in certain industries, like tech where there’s a stigma against people who stay longer than 4 years at a single company. It seems the general rule is roughly 2 years.
@engineered-mind
@engineered-mind 8 месяцев назад
Job hopping in this new era is fantastic
@TVonMoll
@TVonMoll 2 года назад
This video induces a huge amount of doubt for folks without a whole lot of qualification. What is “job hopping”? What is a “strategic move” opposed to a “hop”? Why is it better to spend (waste) more time at a single company if it doesn’t help your goals than to make a move that does support your goals?
@ALifeAfterLayoff
@ALifeAfterLayoff 2 года назад
I’ve got many other videos covering those topics in great detail.
@standardace8355
@standardace8355 2 года назад
What about job hopping for a better company? Due to the current company's toxicity and abuse?
@christinamorales6887
@christinamorales6887 2 года назад
Exactly an abuser boss or a bully coworker
@PlanetX369
@PlanetX369 2 года назад
True, there is a ceiling for the individual contributor but leaving will always bump you 20-40%. I just think it's weird that I would make more in the same position at another firm then I would getting a promotion at my current job. There is more to consider but that's the general consensus.
@avinashtyagi2
@avinashtyagi2 Год назад
Job hopping increased my salary more than 300% over 8 years
@rcxmh
@rcxmh 2 года назад
How many leadership positions are there for every IC role that you come across? That's definitely a factor to consider making a jump -- there's little reason to stick around in a hot job market if it's relatively competitive to get your manager's job or the equivalent at another company.
@waheeb_m
@waheeb_m 2 года назад
I think its outdated advice.. even managers be moving around every 2-4 years now lol. Granted job hoopin around the 1 year mark as a manager isnt ideal but ...
@theresa78201
@theresa78201 2 года назад
Very true! It's not numerically possible for everyone to advance into a leadership position, and some of us would not want to work the crazy hours that some leaders wind up working.
@novadhd
@novadhd 2 года назад
there are way more IC roles thats why is so hard to move up.
@xiaoyangwu9270
@xiaoyangwu9270 2 года назад
If I had been jumping around during the grad school, would it be good move to experience as much as I can without facing the doubts ?
@kasper0814
@kasper0814 2 года назад
I wanna say your videos have sincerely helped me. I left my toxic job and Im happy to say I have a new one with better benefits now! Your videos have helped me sound more professional in interviews and have helped me get farther in the coorporate reality that we live in.
@pinkeye00
@pinkeye00 2 года назад
Staying in one job for more than 3 years in the technology sector - I'd be questioning what their issue is, in contrast! tech workers are extremely transient and in high demand everywhere, because of the agnostic to industry. They are not outbound facing nor are they executive support. They are efficiency operators and makers. There are many industries in which this is true, so even though this applies to traditional vocations, I find it only to be relative to a slim majority of the populous as a whole.
@melk48111
@melk48111 Год назад
why not? Do companies think twice before firing or layoff people?
@dacripe
@dacripe 2 года назад
This is a 20th Century mindset. Job hopping is pretty much encouraged by companies and really none care if you worked at least a year somewhere. The idea of long employment with one company is gone. Workers have figured out that companies screw their employees over with lack of promotions, raises, and quality of work/life balance. I have been lucky to work from home the past 10 years, and now other people realize how great it is. Just not commuting is a raise in and of itself. Unless you get 10% or better raises each year, always look for new opportunities outside of your company. But, make sure to consider the benefits package overall. Some places offer higher salaries but poorer medical/401k options.
@chavonjames8941
@chavonjames8941 2 года назад
How would this appeal to the young people in the job market wanting to level up but aren’t given the opportunity to do we take on all these routes of volunteering, looking for chances that will boost our value (esp since post-secondary doesn’t guarantee us a job after school)
@MollyTheUkulele
@MollyTheUkulele 2 года назад
What if my company is experiencing shrinkage and I want to hop because I know they will probably not be able to keep up with our raises and promotions? A layoff has already happened
@rahuldwivedi4758
@rahuldwivedi4758 3 месяца назад
Companies care about their profit and no matter how long you stay in one company, if you’re not so much skilled they’re not gonna take you anyway just because you stay at a job for long. On the other hand, if you have built some solid skills, you’ll generally be wanted at most companies barring some narrow-minded hiring manager.
@l_Ryi_l
@l_Ryi_l 2 года назад
It's a nice thought but companies have no loyalty. My job is to make money
@BAIGAMING
@BAIGAMING 2 года назад
One awful thing was that I went to Waterloo's co-op university program, where you do 4 months or school, then 4 months of university, back and forth. The way it's set up is that employers get free money from the government for their first time hiring a student and students like it because they can try different jobs at different companies, but my resume has 4 months with different employers. When I'm looking for a full-time job, every employer thinks of it as a negative and I always explain the situation if I have the chance to interview, but a lot of times it's <a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="480">8:00</a> as you say and they just won't give me the interview at all because they it just looks bad. Now you either have to lie to get an interview or hope someone gives you the chance to interview so you have a chance to explain yourself. The worst part though is that a lot of employers of this program don't hire the students they hired before because they just want to keep getting free government grants, which stop when you hire someone who graduated. A lot of companies I've interviewed with before would have 1 supervisor and 30 students enrolled in the co-op program, it's pretty sad.
@Ss1mega
@Ss1mega 2 года назад
Yes.
@jomigirock
@jomigirock 2 года назад
What do you do if you job hopped for 6 - 8 years and now stuck in rut to even get a job in my career path?
@sitrepnews
@sitrepnews 2 года назад
"I want someone dedicated in this role but I want to pay him the less money possible."
@LaCokaNostra81
@LaCokaNostra81 2 года назад
I make a lot more money than ever now, but I'm unhappy with my job
@MrOsasco
@MrOsasco Год назад
It depends if the other expenses like relocation, seeing the house will compensate
@thatguyontheright1
@thatguyontheright1 2 года назад
I've been in the job market for 19 years, never made more than what I am now. I've only job hopped when it became obvious that me having autism was stopping my growth at the company or perhaps even reversing it...or I was irreplaceable in my position, like with my previous employer.
@catz-media
@catz-media 2 года назад
What if jobs you take on are contract positions for 12 months 18 or 24 months periods each time?
@dominicstokes8662
@dominicstokes8662 7 месяцев назад
You said you were a corporate recruiter do you help your clients find fulltime position or just temp and one week assignments. because people who tend to look for jobs always end up working for a staffing agency. what are the chances of finding that fulltime position so that they wouldn't have to job hop.
@FCXmaster
@FCXmaster Год назад
So in 2021, I got laid off from a job I had for less than 3 months and it took me 6 months to land a new job. I have worked at my current job for a little over a year. How long would I have to stay at my current job to not have that gap in my resume be a problem?
@Rinyotsu
@Rinyotsu 2 года назад
Question: at what point should someone look and say "I have totally fucked up and I'm not going to get where I'm wanting to go" and just go find out which religion is correct? (I worked in a call center environment for 5 years between 3 companies, 1 of which bought the contract the first company was under and I you do call center that long with virtually no social circle, and don't consider ending it, I must ask you "how?")
@ahlsrobe
@ahlsrobe 2 года назад
The other reason people Job Hop is because of contract work. With my last 5 Jobs, the companies I worked for brought me in for a specific project. Once that project was done, they didn't keep me on board despite me for asking and applying for other opportunities within that company. Especially right now in this job environment, many companies have been hesitant to hire full time employees until the pandemic subsides and companies feel more comfortable bring on full time employees. So you may not have a choice in changing jobs if your contract runs out and they don't extent it or convert it to full time. Or if you've been working remotely and your company announces that they want everyone back in the office in the fall and you live in a different state than the office, you're going to have to change jobs. In one company that I worked for, my manage told me that if I was still working here in 3 years, he'd be really disappointed. The point of what my manager was saying is that he doesn't want stagnate employees. And most tech companies seem to be find with turnover.
@cocoman6923
@cocoman6923 2 года назад
So job hope for ten years to maximize cash and learning then start a business got it!
@SaleProofCarReviews
@SaleProofCarReviews 2 года назад
Brian, did you mean to say “sales” when you said “not caring about your career”? 😆
@gabrielbarrantes6946
@gabrielbarrantes6946 2 года назад
Jajaj this man only talks about pleasing companies, better advice folks: hop at much as possible, invest the extra cash, after 10 years depending on the field, you could be almost financially independent, don't stay more than 2 years in the same position if you didn't get a promotion of some sort, if you just got a raise then leave, companies are not family or anything you own them nothing
@shortcityvlogs
@shortcityvlogs 8 месяцев назад
Employers do not hesitate to quit their staff, why should an employee hesitate?
@christinamorales6887
@christinamorales6887 2 года назад
Way back in day you could get a job and stay with the company twenty years but that is not the reality anymore. There is not job stability like it was twenty or thirty years ago. Companies today have high turnover rates and toxic work environments and low business morale. Companies need to improve their work culture management and have employees stick around by treating them better.
@nolakillabeast
@nolakillabeast Год назад
Been laid off 3 times because the (startup) company went under, so it appears like job hopping but its really not. Do you think its ok? Is this something I should mention? Like: oh those short lived positions, here is what happend? Btw, all those bosses I had would happily recommend me, I have great relationship with them.
@Koomoa
@Koomoa 2 года назад
What advice do you have for people that work for a really large corporation, that happens to be embroiled and a major lawsuit bringing much negative attention to the company, or a company that’s on the verge of collapse? Examples would be Activision-blizzard, or Enron.
@GaelinW
@GaelinW 2 года назад
My unsolicited advice would be to find a new job and leave. Before the collapse and you're left picking up pieces. Or their bad reputation is left to haunt yours.
@needmorecowbell6895
@needmorecowbell6895 2 года назад
It depends on the company and your skill set. Let's say you're working security or accounting and you're working for an engineering firm or a medical firm or any other firm where the core business of the firm is outside your skill set, Let's use and engineering/fabrication firm for this example. You're a fringe player. Your background doesn't align with the core competencies the company needs (engineering/fabrication) and your not likely to develop a skill that will move up the food chain. You will need to move. If on the other hand you have a background in engineering, fabrication, a mechanic, etc. and you work for the same firm, then you're learning skills that align with the companies core competencies and it makes sense to stay for a while. It also works in reverse. Let's say you're a welder working in the same engineering/fabrication firm. Welding is a high value skill that aligns with the core competency of the firm. It aligns so well that the firm doesn't want you to move because it's difficult to replace you. They'd be perfectly satisfied if you just came to work every day for the next 30 years. You may need to move to get a chance to advance. The best way to tell is look at the requirements for the job you want and the background of the person in it. If you background doesn't align then you need to move because they will hire and promote a person that looks just like the person sitting in that chair right now.
@audrey_bond_
@audrey_bond_ 2 года назад
What if you're working in an unstable industry?
@supersasquatch
@supersasquatch 2 года назад
I'm forced to hop but it works out
@MyrMerek
@MyrMerek 2 года назад
I am very sad becaus of the fact that I will hit a ceiling in tech job doing tech work. I dont want to squeeze and stab and spy and snake and work with people at a management/leadership goal, despite being good at it. I like tech and I like my machines and engineering, but I am afraid that I wont be rich enough if I follow this career path. I am afraid that if something happens, if I would be working at a job I like, I could be putting in danger my closed ones. What if war breaks out? As a contractor you have nothing, nowhere to flee, nothing to save. What if my mom and dad falls ill? They are already old and slowly start to loose their grip. What if someone goes blind? How is the goverment is going to pay my pension when Im old when there are less children born, whom they are gonna tax to pay for this? Being rich doesnt protect you from much, but at the very least you have somwhat of a cusion when SHTF, vile being a worker you essentially have nothing, and are juuust making it above the precipice, even if you dont know it.
@KevtechITSupport
@KevtechITSupport 2 года назад
If you work IT, you can jump other jobs. Especially if there no room to grow or get a promotion. It doesn't make sense to stay in the company. I guess it depends on your job and career. In tech, people tend to jump around and it doesn't really hurt them because of job experience.
@joshvar
@joshvar 2 года назад
Yoo Kevtech
@KevtechITSupport
@KevtechITSupport 2 года назад
@@joshvar sup.
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