Should Your Left Wrist Be BOWED, CUPPED, or FLAT at the Top of Your Golf Swing?

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In this video, Steve tackles the debate of the left wrist position at the top of the swing from a kinesiological point of view.
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@zacharymilos392 Год назад

I tend to play the best with a flat to slightly cupped wrist. When I tried being bowed/shut at the top, my brain sensed this closed face and it really prevented me from releasing the club and also made my path excessively in to out in order to try and salvage a ball that could end up on target. When my body senses a neutral or even slightly open face, it allows me to release the club and rotate my body much better in order to get the ball going where I want. I feel like guys who play from the closed face top position are able to really get their bodies open through impact and tend to have much less face rotation throughout the swing. Not wrong way, only the right way for you.

@Inmotion70 Год назад

Interesting thoughts.

@mckyj 4 месяца назад

Thank you so much Steve. I have been obsessed with the wrist position at the top of the swing and it has complicated and ruined my swing. This, coupled with the video regarding the “hand gap rule” on the path thru impact, has made a huge difference for me. You are the best at explaining these concepts. Thanks!

@ra1der5 10 месяцев назад

Visit your local golf professional to see what you need for your grip and swing style. Until a few weeks ago, my swing path has constantly been over the top. My golf coach suggested bowing the wrist to flatten/drop the club back down on plane.

@johanjofo Год назад

I’ve played with cupped hand backswing since -88. Tried to go to bowed hand, but i dont have that flexibility. Thou thrue downswing my hand goes flat. Never cupped hand at impact.

@Mike-os6qd 4 месяца назад

If I’m cupped on drives I hit heavy or don’t release. If I’m straight or slightly bowed I seem to have much more time and hit the ball straighter and further. I imagine the back of my left hand is being stretched towards the bowed position on the downswing. It works for me. BTW I’m left handed but play right handed. It’s whatever works for your particular arm “structure”🤔. If you know what I mean😂

@ollies9789 Год назад

Happy that the last video wasn't the end of the channel :) Great as always

@Inmotion70 Год назад

More to come!

@thomblinn4731 10 месяцев назад

Thanks for an apt analysis

@georgiamay4045 Год назад

I really have to work on the whip part through the ball. cup and bow on the way down for me. .. sadly .. no whip at the end.

@idelfonsogarcia3119 5 месяцев назад

I don’t usually comment on videos but wow this makes me feel so much better about my swing now

@steveconkkin9363 Год назад

Thank goodness. I'm so glad you compared Hogan, Johnson & Woods as well as the long drive specialists. I cannot get my wrist bowed at top. But I do like extending just after the slot. Some would say thats a cheat that is basically hooding the club, I don't know, but when I get in trouble - weak shots, lack power, I can employ this move and think of 'covering the ball ' w back of hand and then power, force, smash come back.... thats the good news, the bad news is I tend to have a low shot trajectory Still - for me, it helps me to move the ball with a little power rather than - "Look at that guy, he's never golfed before 🙂" And I've had that happen and it's know fun

@eskelinenpertti7401 Год назад

Impact matters -thanks Steve ! I just like to watch Steves videos . Relaxing habitus and relaxing voice.

@Inmotion70 Год назад

Hey thanks!

@mntlblok 10 месяцев назад

*Fascinating* about the possibility that wrist flexion between the top of the backswing and impact could be all over the lot. Matches up with all the "motion blur" on video during that period thwarting my efforts to figger this stuff out. 🙂

@thomashenry3284 Год назад

Steve GREAT VIDEO!!! I’ve been obsessing about this for months! THANK YOU for this video!!!

@handyallen Год назад

I watched Hogan play Frank Beard in an exhibition in the 70's and he was long and powerful he must of been in his 60's 😊

@mwiltfang4618 7 месяцев назад

One of the biggest distance killers is gripping the club too tight with the right hand. Well, both hands for that matter. The left wrist position is academic unless you lose the death grip. So take his advice--stop obsessing over the left wrist.

@mikewilliams1479 11 месяцев назад

I think it’s more how they transiting that wrist angle into the ball in the downswing.

@brandtvickery3552 7 месяцев назад

It’s physics. If you are taller -you can bow the wrist and still generate. If you are shorter -you need more extension-ie cupping the wrist. Great video.

@Sneaky-Sneaky Год назад

I used to cup…but gave it up….I have for quite awhile been using a flat or neutral wrist with a neutral grip for one reason. It keeps the club head in the swing arc so on the down swing you don’t have to make any adjustment moves to square up the club face for ball contact….to me that simplification makes logical sense. What it has done for me is far more consistency with the bottom of my swing …. Which promotes better ball striking with no lose of power. Thanks for this vid on a very interesting topic!

@TheSailingChannel 2 месяца назад

I'm rebuilding my swing after a long hiatus from golf. Now in my late 70s , I want to recapture my game of 20 years ago when I scoted in the high 70s and low 80s. My natural swing has come back, but I was having difficulty squaring the club face, leading to inconsistent contact and weak shots. Then I started to bow my left wrist during the backswing. Immediately, I started squaring the club face with excellent contact. This resulted in consistently straighter and longer hits with irons and woods. Your swing will determine whether you should bow, like I do, cup, or maintain a neutral wrist. The object is to square the face at impact for crisp, powerful contact.

@IndigoWall Год назад

Exactly right. Hogan knew: cup at top t get longest arc for club head, then bow on downswing & whip through impact. But that demands great hand & wrist feel. Bow at top if you have control problems. Freddy cups like Hogan & bombs the ball, but he has surgeon’s hands. Thanks for investigating this fascinating aspect of the swing.

@kennyc3670 Год назад

Good video Steve. Mr Hogan advised to have what he called a 'pronated' left wrist at impact in his book 5 Lessons. How he actually achieved this he didn't say and neither, Steve, did you in this video. Obviously the left wrist has to change from cupped to palmer flexed (or pronated) at impact to achieve this. I guess you just have to practice in slow motion to achieve this position at impact then gradually speed up to full velocity. Not easy to time it just right!!

@Inmotion70 Год назад

That's not pronation. Hogan was using incorrect terms. Thanks for watching!

@kennyc3670 Год назад

@@Inmotion70 OK Steve. Is it called supination? Anyway Mr Hogan showed his left wrist bent back with his palm facing more upwards at impact. The crux of my question was how do you achieve this transition from cupped or bent at the top so that the ball goes with a consistent direction. Thank you for the time and consideration you must put into your enjoyable videos.

@mntlblok 10 месяцев назад

@@Inmotion70 Just happened across a video of Gary McCord giving a corporate outing about 30 years ago. Told a tale of once sitting with Hogan and maybe Ken Venturi for a couple of hours. Hogan explained that he never wrote anything but merely explained to the guy that did the writing what he "felt". Gary mostly explained what he'd learnt from Mac O'Grady during the previous two months. Most entertaining. 🙂

@huddwah 8 месяцев назад

Wish I watched this before buying hackmotion instead of after lol

@mikeobrien1559 Год назад

Cupping with Hogan's weak grip had a very different effect on the club than cupping does in the strong grips of Sadlowski, Couples, Daly, and Azinger. From address, with a weak grip, if you cup your wrist, you will raise the club sideways towards the target. With a strong grip, in the address position, cupping will raise the club straight up in the air. In order to get that same vertical raising of the club with a weak grip, the wrists must be cocked, not cupped. This vertical movement of the club is what creates lag in the golf swing. Shaft lean is created by the supination of the lead wrist in a weak grip while it is already built into a strong grip. Lag and shaft lean are two different considerations.

@Inmotion70 Год назад

Great comment, other than misusing supination.

@mikeobrien1559 Год назад

@@Inmotion70 So, it should've been "shaft lean is created by bowing (not "supination") of the lead wrist in a weak grip", is that right?

@DW-xv8dv Год назад

Great video Steve. I would love to see a video with you discussing the initial takeaway and what Mike Austin did. In Dan Shauger's book "Kill the Ball" he claims that the left pinky must curl down on the take-way which results in an extremely closed clubface (almost facing the ground) and a bowed wrist at the top. Shortly after curling the left wrist down, as the club works up Shauger claims that you need to trombone the right arm. I am not sure if Mike Austin made these moves and whether or not this is a good idea for most amateurs. I think there is much confusion about these points. You cleared up that the pivot should be from 4 to 8 instead of 4 to 10 for many people, and your input on this would be very helpful as well. Thanks

@Inmotion70 Год назад

I do not agree with anything Shauger taught regarding hand action on the backswing.

@RumzDizzle Год назад

Every time I focus on bowing my wrist excessively… I get a terrible nerve pain shoot through my arm and get tingling after. My wrist is fairly neutral on my natural swing otherwise.

@standlegweak9854 Год назад

I get a feeling like a shock or tendon snap in my left wrist on the underside at the center when I try to bow my left wrist (happens when the club head hits the ground). Is that what you get? It feels like I could damage a tendon. You're the first I've seen mention a similar feeling.

@metonicycle6294 Год назад

because it is not natural

@TheBooze13 8 месяцев назад

For me bowed is the way to go. I tried to go “conventional” and I just couldn’t shallow or get my swing path in the right spot. I do have flexible wrists and a bowed wrist allows me to just turn and burn

@Inmotion70 8 месяцев назад

Sweet. Glad you found what works. Many birdies!

@FittinToGet Год назад

bowed is way too uncomfortable for me. Quick way to get injured if you hit a fatty or root

@metonicycle6294 Год назад

Cupped is natural.

@Gggolfff2780 Год назад

A lot of it has to do with grip. The famous bowed players all have weaker grips. The cupped players tend to have stronger grips. It's harder to square the face with a weaker grip so they bow the wrist which helps close and deloft the face. If Freddy couples with his strong grip bowed his wrist at the top he would hit the ball dead left every time. So he cups he wrist which does the opposite of bowed, it opens the face at the top to help from hitting shots dead left.

@sirtogii5216 Год назад

Yup, look at Spieth's weak grip and bowed wrist up top. Or as with DJ is so wide open at impact that the bowed wrist helps him not blocking everything right I reckon. Maybe chicken and egg on that of course but either way the hands matches his body movement. IT's a personal thing.

@nm1154 Год назад

Hogan's secret as he described in 1955 Life Magazine was the combination of cupped wrist, very weak grip and full arm rotation that allowed full release yet slightly open face at impact. The resut was so called power fade. I think also cupping at both address and top helps the loft to be utilized at impact .

@ScratchArkkitehti Год назад

hackmotion disproves this. There are bowed players who are weak, neutral and strong....same for cupped and neutral. Its the right hand manipulation (trail) that shapes the wrists. Also way less variation in trail hand vs lead.....right hand runs the show.

@metonicycle6294 Год назад

@@ScratchArkkitehti Right hand runs the show. I predict you are cupped.

@robbert3013 3 месяца назад

I cup and have strong grip

@justnews9738 Год назад

I’m saying flat. Mostly because of consistency reasons.

@patentguy9563 9 дней назад

Your portrayal of an open club face in the downswing using a cupped left wrist is not accurate. Turn the left elbow down the line and use a strong left grip, which will result in a square club face down and into the ball.

@williammacdonald9271 Год назад

Cupped adds another enemy of many, too high of a ball flight. It’s funny the way Hogan is worshipped, Iron Byron Nelson is much easier emulate, Tom Watson is another to copy, no quirks and great.

@Inmotion70 Год назад

Unless you move into bowed wrist in the slot.