Shoulder Pain? Do You Have Mouse Shoulder? How to Tell. What to Do.

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Shoulder Pain? Do You Have Mouse Shoulder? How to Tell. What to Do.
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Bob and Brad discuss how your computer mouse may be causing your shoulder pain. And how to correct it.
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@FreelancingwithFahad 3 года назад

I am a freelance writer and facing this problem. I will try this and get back to you guys after one month.

@FreelancingwithFahad 3 года назад

Put the elbow at angle of 90%. Yes it relaxes and doesnt causes much pain.

@FreelancingwithFahad 3 года назад

@Fajny P I didnt try the one in which he leaned over the bed but I tried W's and I do them whenever I get time. Entire day while sitting on the chair and even in the washroom. They worked for me.

@ahilaryb 3 года назад

"Ah, who cares, Bob" 😂

@L.Spencer 3 года назад

Love them. I find myself talking like Brad sometimes. "Oh Bob!"

@BobandBrad 3 года назад

@@L.Spencer 😅

@TotalTennisGeek 3 года назад

Why do people complain about the talking!? It makes the videos fun. The banter is why I watch these videos here instead of Instagram. Leave us alone!

@codingprograms2078 3 года назад

As a computer programmer I keep this all the time I will start doing these exercises ASAP great video . They have those steering knobs everywhere I see than in cabs.

@CarolynnMc01 3 года назад

Hey guys! thank you for all the great help you give us ! It's so very much appreciated and you're my most favorite and famous PT's. :)

@takatsu5 3 года назад

20 years ago I got this. The cause is using big muscles to do fine motor movements. I'm right handed and the area of my left rhomboid got hot, tight, and painful. Since not working a desk job is out of the question, I got a keyboard carrel to put it low (don't know how people type without pain with elbows less than 90°) and started using a track ball or touch pad. Went to a standing desk a few years later. The problem never really goes away but with exercises like Bob and Brad's I keep it tamped down. At the gym pulling exercises help but especially face pulls work well. For just maintaining good posture the "chest up" cue works because it drives the shoulder blades together and down and pushes the shoulder back.

@DanGroom 3 года назад

You guys should do a collab with gaming you tubers and streamers!

@_SaiM_ 3 года назад

Thats such a good idea. They would grow way faster this way

@BobandBrad 3 года назад

I’ll add this to our to do list !

@DanGroom 3 года назад

@@BobandBrad Could really improve some lives!

@shredder5214 3 года назад

Literally the reason my posture is so messed up now , really really great idea .

@Monkeyman-qt1sm 2 года назад

Haha this would be amazing did they ever do this?

@trebmaster 3 года назад

I just started developing bad shoulder pain 2 weeks ago from this! Switching to a vertical mouse and trying to lower my arm placement in my work setup so my shoulder isn't up too high. EDIT: I realized Bob and Brad didn't seem to talk about that but definitely make sure that your left and right shoulders can stay level with each other while you're on your mouse. My right shoulder was up higher.

@natalirivero467 Год назад

I don't understand, did the vertical mouse help or harm?

@ogvan778 Год назад

what they said, did it help?

@hyperfixatedd 10 месяцев назад

Vertical mouse helps

@lucywang5747 3 года назад

Thank you! Your videos are AMAZING! Love the fact you teach us how to test and treat! It helps to understand why! Exact problem i have from WFH

@rockroll7649 Год назад

I developed this over the last few weeks. I use my mouse a lot and work 10 to 12 hours a day. The pain is mid to front right delt. The type of pain feels very similar to the carpal tunnel pain I had in my wrist 20 years ago when I was dealing with that. It's great fun learning to mouse with my left hand. lol.

@staciemccormick5455 3 года назад

I'm having this problem right now! I feel like you made this video for me 😊 Thanks guy!

@lviy Год назад

25, and have been a subscriber for couple of years now. I got this problem and call it mouse shoulder by my own. But i believe if i look it up in youtube there must be you guys video! And here i am. Thanks always!!

@donmcdouglas5017 3 года назад

YES lol, im a stupid gamer who never puts his elbow on the desk :(

@redzisan 4 месяца назад

Not the only one :-D

@lourdeschapa9389 3 года назад

Thx so much, you guys have helped a lot, especially now I have learn to do better exercises for my tib/fib fx, & now do believe i have been suffering from this, I will follow ur recommendations. Thx not only u teach but r also funny. Thx, take care & be safe. 😊

@nicholasg.savino6570 2 года назад

You guys crack me up... now it's my turn. I'm 59 yrs old and been working with computers for probably 40 years. I've had some shoulder discomfort over the years here and there but mostly after engaging in a non routine activity like throwing around a ball on a whim. I figured it was due to age and lack of routine engagement. Three years ago, after about 5 years of suffering lower back pain and sciatica to the point where I was limping around like and old man and barely sleeping due to pain. I was diagnosed and had my right hip replaced. This miracle surgery changed my life. In less than a year I was walking, running, jumping (and sleeping) like I haven't in years. At this point I decide to revisit an old passion, skateboarding (here is where you're supposed to laugh). Yes, skateboarding. Transitional skateboarding, at skateparks, on inclines, ramps, and in bowls. No real impact skating, pretty much carving and kick turns, with full safety gear. Anyway, the first year my knees were getting swollen and very painful. I started wearing knee compression sleeves and doing exercises from your videos. It seems that I needed to get my leg and core muscles in shape for this activity and my knees are now way better. I did notice that with almost all frontside maneuvers (where I have to lean, reach, and stretch to my right) where causing discomfort in my right shoulder. I pretty much shrugged it off. Then boom, I took a straight on slam to my right elbow where there was very little sliding on my elbow pad but more of a blunt jam to my right shoulder. Now I'm hurting and worrying about rotator cuff injury. I notice more shoulder pain when working since I'm always at a keyboard and mouse (hence "Mouse Shoulder"). I also find more pain when laying down and trying to sleep. Since I started skating again I neglected to focus any training or exercise to my upper body and am noticing sore triceps and other arm muscles since that slam. I just tried your "W" and feel this will be beneficial, I'll try the shoulder raises later and hope for the best. Thanks!

@AlphaDonMega 3 года назад

Another useful video..thanks Brad & Bob!

@MommyDontSeeMe 3 года назад

Thank you for this and the suggestions. I have a disk issue at C5/C6, and having to work with a mouse exacerbates it quite a lot. PT, injections, TENS, pain med, chiropractic, ice or heat - sometimes these help, and I'm pretty diligent about posture and taking breaks for a few sets of exercises similar to these. I'm on the computer a bit less than most who have responded, but sessions are intense and unrelieved by typing (CADD work). Since I'm now starting to have numbness in the non-dominant arm and hand, looks like time for another MRI. But my shoulder itself is thankfully not impinged any more (been through that), and don't ever want to be there again. P.S. And a big thank you for mentioning in other videos Dr. Kirsch's book. Got my own copy now!

@Doorbelly 3 года назад

Finally y'all have talked about my exact problem

@VRSKapitanaOfficial 3 месяца назад

Did u fix it? @__paunov777 contact me if yes

@atlndnballer123 3 года назад

Very timely, thank you!

@MarinusMakesStuff 2 года назад

What's interesting is that I switched to a vertical mouse to see if this would improve my wrist issues (together with physical therapy), but then my shoulder started going bad. Despite having the correct posture of keeping the upper arm straight down and forearm in a 90 degree angle to that. So my issues actually arose when I started sitting correctly. This combined with the fact that I started doing shoulder exercises and I suspect that my sore mouse shoulder actually came from sitting behind the computer after doing a workout and not giving the muscles in my shoulder enough time to purely relax.

@mr.arshed6053 3 года назад

Thank you guys. You've just signified the importance & effectiveness of (Rope Pull) exercise.

@hyperfixatedd 10 месяцев назад

Amazing video! Thank you very much

@faizy8844 3 года назад

Thanks for the video.

@susanasher6939 Год назад

Thank you so much for this!!!

@justiceisillusion5434 3 года назад

That is exactly my problem... was day & night using a mouse and extending my hand forward on a low table for few months! Although it has been almost a year since I have corrected this stupid situation, but I still have pain that reaches also my Clavicle/ collarbone. I didn't seek professional help, because I thought it is a weird situation & I wouldn't know how to explain my problem. Thank you very much for this video!

@justiceisillusion5434 3 года назад

@Fajny Piotruś Thank you.. The chest could be little tight due to continuous use of keyboard.. I started simple exercises to relax those muscles.

@FraggeR-gt6ii 3 года назад

Pain all around my shoulder for a year now, has spread to my fingers. Been gaming on pc since i was two years old and ive had immense pain since i was 16. praying this will work

@adyy78 3 месяца назад

Thank you for the excercises. I just looked up mouse shoulder, and the excersizes i saw,i couldn't do anyone of them becuase of my current condition. But these two, the double you-s and laying on the pillow i doable :)

@laurieelliott3791 3 года назад

Thank You 💗

@alibannister3269 Год назад

Great video as always - thank you! And thank you for helping me recognise my 'mouse shoulder'. How often and how many reps do you recommend of the 'W' during an average 'mouse-using' hour? Thank you and I think you guys are great, and what you're doing is great. You are our go-to guys for physio tips :0) Thanks again, Ali

@bgmthedoc 2 года назад

Thanks a lot. It helped 👍🙏

@neilallen2144 3 года назад

So I have "touch pad" shoulder then. Thanks guys!!!!!

@ComeAlivewithMK 2 года назад

OMGoodness !!! Finally!!! The answer to what I have!!! Thank you!!!! And The knobs on the steering wheel are called Necker knobs and we have them in New Mexico too!

@pemman 2 года назад

Great way of putting over handlings you two :)

@BrettWyrick 3 года назад

Thanks for the video, guys. I recently started using my mouse lefty because of the pain. I've been watching you guys for years and I think this is exactly what I have. I actually found a different video that was very helpful for diagnosing this. I'll do those measurements for this too! Definitely have had this for years. My right shoulder is all sorts of messed up but nothing shows up on MRI or anything. I seem to have some severe scapular dyskinesis. Anyway, I'll post back here if any treatment helps for anyone else out there dealing with this.

@andrefohlin 3 года назад

Hey Brett, a couple of weeks in now, did you see any improvements with these exercises? Got the same problem and looking around for solutions.

@BrettWyrick 3 года назад

@@andrefohlin I ended up seeing a PT local to me. I just started treatment. I'll keep you posted on the results, because I've been in pain for years trying to find a solution to this and my PT thinks he's found it. So far, my PT believes that I have some nerve irritation (possibly nerve damage) to the C6 disc in my vertebrae from an injury or something years ago. He says all the nerves from the shoulder where I have pain (and wrist pain) are connected to C6 (my pain is on my right shoulder, where I utilize the mouse). He is focusing on some "rigid" taping of my shoulder (McConnell taping techniques, he says) to basically act as a sort of "cast" - my body is actually pretty high in mobility, he says, but I need STABILITY first and foremost because my right shoulder just kinda hangs there, not in the place it should be (too far forward). The rigid tape is a sort of crutch that will remain on 24/7 as I get stronger using the BodyBlade (more on that below). The taping brings me SO MUCH RELIEF. I'm in pain all the time, but the tape definitely helps. It's a couple pieces of tape that lift my shoulder blade area upward. I wonder if I have some sort of thoracic nerve irritation (but not failure), because this kinda lifts the muscles away from it. Idk. Once I start getting stronger, he said we'll move to Kinesio tape since it's not quite as rigid as the leuko-tape, then eventually no tape at all. Kinda like going from a cast to a brace to nothing. For exercises, he had me get this goofy PT device called a "BodyBlade" that works like 100+ muscles because I have several muscles that have atrophied in that area. For me, it's honestly a solid workout, though using it is kinda weird (but also kinda fun). I'll keep you posted on my journey here.

@andrefohlin 3 года назад

@@BrettWyrick Great to hear that its going in the right direction at least then. Got in contact with a physiotherapist today and will start with some ergonomic improvements at least to see where that leads. Your problems sounds much worse than mine, so hoping for a speedy recovery to you and that the body blade helps! :)

@kiwi1432 Год назад

@@BrettWyrick how are you feeling? I’ve been dealing with what sounds exactly the same for about 3 years

@OcSongTheSoulSinger Год назад

@@BrettWyrick any more news since last year?

@sonomasyrah 3 года назад

Hi Bob and Brad, is there anyway you could do lying down workout for those with Myalgic encephalomyelitis? I think it would help so many people who can't stand/sit while exercising. Thank you. Love you guys. You helped me with great knee exercises after meniscus tears. Long wait for PT here and they were shocked at the mobility my knee. So thanks.

@fwcolb 3 года назад

Think prevention! I am 89.and use my mouse over 10+ hours per day for work and play. Less now than when I was younger, when I used my mouse 12+ hours per day. (Got my first microcomputer around 1984.) The key is to support your elbow. Use only your hand. You can adjust mouse tracking to allow fine movements of the hand to generate gross movements of the mouse. I estimate that 1.5 inches movement of my hand produces over 12 inches movement of the mouse pointer, a factor of 8. Text editing takes little hand movement. But I do a lot of image editing, which takes a lot of practice to do with a mouse. To patch 8 pixels (about one letter), my hand must not move more than one pixel. Image editing is at least as demanding as text editing. But beware: If you support your elbow you can get a sore elbow. So you need to rest your elbow on a soft surface. Experiment. There are elbow pads available, but you can make your own. I like to keep my entire forearm flat on my desk so that no part of the arm is stressed.

@antoniiocaluso4387 3 года назад

Have you any experience using ERGONOMIC mice? btw, I was using CAD since '82. Using Microstation on a surplus NASA mainframe, for archi-design in Boca Raton, FL. What a monster! :--) I still miss my Timex-Sinclair & C64. :-)

@fwcolb 3 года назад

@@antoniiocaluso4387 Wow, your own a NASA mainframe? I used to use an ambidextrous roller-ball. But where I live I don't see any with Bluetooth.

@mescellaneous 3 года назад

i agree with this. i think it's important to ask why the issue is in the mouse arm and not the other one. i noticed i tend to use my non mouse side (left) arm rest sometimes, whereas i never use the mouse side (right) arm rest. but even when off the rest, the left shoulder maintains proper form. for me, the only difference is height. i optimized for proper elbow height for typing, but the mouse is lower than the keyboard typing surface. that has resulted in a dropped shoulder on my mouse arm. elevating the mouse side arm rest seems to help, just to lift the shoulder position every now and then. lowering the chair height so that the mouse elbow/shoulder is optimal helps a little too. the advice where they tell you the arm should be straight and 90 degrees is not exactly good advice with differing keyboard and mouse height. maybe someone should make an elevated mouse pad?

@fwcolb 3 года назад

@@antoniiocaluso4387 Yes, if you consider a rollerball device ergonomic. But I use my left hand and no longert find a suitable rollerball.

@redzisan 4 месяца назад

Thank you guys this video was super helpful :-)

@TheFirstManticore 3 года назад

Before the invention of the mouse, we still used our right hand for writing, doing desk work. I had a little Right Shoulder trouble before the mouse was evented, and long before I ever got one myself.

@ric_silva_a 3 года назад

can you do a video about knee sitting for desk jobs? you made greate videos about sitting posture, and standing desks. I spend most of my day sitting and my back is killing me beetween my shoulders. I tried standing up but without a proper standing desk is hard. Recently I tried sitting on my knees and it's such a relief for the shoulders and back... but theres very little info about it on the internet.

@sherryfalgoust9405 3 года назад

Love that i wish i could win one i m suffering with right shoulder muscle and bursitis right joint the bone gets inflamed

@user-wo4he8yp7o 2 года назад

@edgehodl4832 3 года назад

great video! i got mouse shoulder lol, will start those two stretches and check back if im getting better

@tonthax 3 года назад

Any update?

@christophergooch9277 3 года назад

How would you distinguish between mouse shoulder and thoracic outlet syndrome? How would your treatments vary?

@eliseintheattic9697 3 года назад

Woke up this morning with my right shoulder blade killing me and found this in my RU-vid feed. Now I know Google is intuitive but I'm a little creeped out. 😂 Seriously though, thanks, going to try this out. I've had this problem for years.

@morganzipp1 2 года назад

I definitely have this but it is worse on my other shoulder than my mouse should and it is right behind the blade. What would cause that? Thank you

@PAULLONDEN 9 месяцев назад

In my case the pain seems to go through the right arm biceps having trouble moving the right arm towards the left shoulder and to the back ,a nagging slight pain for 6 months . When pointing the outstretched right arm towards the right , I'm hearing a rasping sound coming from the right shoulder , which might also have to do with being 70 years of age ? Hope I'm not doing the wrong exercise.

@nw7053 3 года назад

Hi, can forward head posture make serratus anterior pain? Thanks.

@yvonnevorenkamp-atchley7499 3 года назад

Is it possible to make your shoulders square if they are rounded. Or Hunched. Can it be fixed. I have osteoporosis.

@danielcaiado6924 2 года назад

Not to mention ergonomic vertical mouses with joystick-like grips, they help a lot.

@christinefoord3893 3 года назад

What is your spine has aslight curve happening in your back caused by Osteoporosis. Thank you

@bveracka Год назад

Well, that was mildly annoying BUT thank you for some free advice! I will be trying this for sure. Typing for work, writing for pleasure, and using the computer for music production daily; I've got one BAD case of mouse shoulder! Hope this helps.

@chrisbrace6915 2 года назад

"If we could glue your shirt to your skin..." Lol! Good job guys

@debbiepickett5755 3 года назад

I always love your videos, so helpful!

@barbaraking4357 3 года назад

Boy ,I just love these guys I even encourage my therapy's To watch them.ther have helped Me with neck and shoulder pain Thanks BobAnd Brad.

@aliceharvey1226 3 года назад

My grandparent’a Desoto h ad that knob on the steering wheel. Push button shifting too.

@kathleenpenny3773 3 года назад

Bob and Brad I woke up with my right shoulder in pain. Did I sleep wrong or something?

@angela_somanythings5670 3 года назад

I had this recently and it took weeks for me to heal it! But I am okay now!

@pvish842 3 года назад

Did you put ice on it? I went to physio and they did ultrasound and ice therapy. It still not fixed. I guess it caused by both mouse and as well as bike riding

@angela_somanythings5670 3 года назад

@@pvish842 Yes, I had use some ice but mostly I used an anti-inflammatory lotion and had to change my shoulder posture for both my desk and doing other activities that would inflame it back up! I thought it would never clear up but I kept all of that up and it finally went away! Now I can do activities normally again but I have better "mouse posture" which I think started it!! I was scared it would interrupt me holding my new baby due on Christmas! But I am okay now phew..

@pvish842 3 года назад

@@angela_somanythings5670 Thank you! Merry Christmas! Wish u and the baby a great health and happiness..

@angela_somanythings5670 3 года назад

@@pvish842 Thank you so much! Still waiting for her arrival ; ) it is unpredictable of course! Btw Peppermint oil rubs were very helpful for pain relief for me!

@kirstyhesketh3919 2 года назад

Need this so bad

@wholesome122 2 года назад

I have this and I think it is also causing me these headaches at the base of my skull on the right side

@kristinas5714 Год назад

Would this work for phone shoulder so using one hand to talk on the phone all day?

@michaelandcarolblackburn103 3 года назад

Bob & Brad, thanks for your great videos. When I use the mouse with my right hand I get pain in the left shoulder blade. Can you tell me why it's the opposite side? Thanks, Carol

@ayowhat6139 3 года назад

Am assuming u r gaming so u r holding ur left hand oyt for the keyboard which ultimately has the same effect as holding ur hand out for the mose

@michaelandcarolblackburn103 3 года назад

@@ayowhat6139 no, I am not gaming. I am a 69 y.o. woman just using the computer mouse with my right hand. My left arm is either in my lap, on the arm of my chair or down by my side if I am using the standing table instead of sitting. I think it's all just age-related, arthritic joints, etc. What am I complaining for. LOL

@tinad8561 3 года назад

@@michaelandcarolblackburn103 According to a massage therapist, muscle pain in one shoulder can be caused by tightness in the other-the scapular muscles tighten up on one side and force the muscles they are attached to to overstretch, get microtears, and create pain. Don’t know if that’s what’s up with you, but it works that way for me.

@mickyndat6747 2 года назад

I used to do light ish weights and heavy stretching every morning or atleast 3 times a week, stopped 2 years ago and injured my sholder twice, cant get away with anything keep ur body circulating

@kayejackson9516 3 года назад

Ya’ll are funny!! Don’t know if you know what you are talking about or not!!! But you’re funny 😄 😂😂😂😂😂😍😍😂😂😂

@markkelly940 3 года назад

That's exactly what I was thinking!!!

@michellem5647 3 года назад

I have an incredibly painful right shoulder..along with terrible carpal tunnel. All I hear is clicking when I move my shoulder...plus I feel like there a nerve or 2 pinched

@harindaka Год назад

Did a lot of gaming which gave me mouse shoulder. Going to try these excercises

@bveracka Год назад

Same, except I have a desk job so I'm typing all the time too. How's yours now?

@harindaka Год назад

@@bveracka i changed my posture so that my elbow sits lower and closer to my body and it went away. This video really helped

@bveracka Год назад

@@harindaka I've already noticed a difference but I'm very good with my left hand (years of guitar and bass) so I'm just switching for the time being

@richard_d_bird 3 года назад

oh god yes i do. thanks for asking

@rosemaryryan6455 3 года назад

Can u hold the shoulder muscle model in position longer. You moved it too fast to see what u were talking about. Great exercise doing it now

@trelligan42 3 года назад

Mouse shoulder no; mouse wrist yes. I use a trackball and keep my hand (wrist, arm...) in one position too long. Also, I tend to lean on that arm, causing pain. Mainly I just change my position (when I remember).

@vecter12 3 года назад

Never stop talking bob n brad

@TheSunIsMyDestroyer Год назад

well i've been pc gaming since i was 15 lol not starting to experience this but not painful just annoying. gonna need to do those exercise to prevent this

@Tikker194 3 года назад

Funny... never knew what I had had a name or why it happened 😅 thanks I also never knew how to fix it

@CamGam212 3 года назад

Oh my goodness, the pain I have in my shoulder is becoming unbearable. I’ve tried ice pack heat and it just feels like I’m constantly having to stretch my neck and shoulder to calm the pain for a min or two. Please help me figure it out

@CamGam212 3 года назад

@Fajny Piotruś what does that even mean? Smfh

@gnrfinkployd 2 года назад

My friend uses the knob on the steering wheel as she only has use of one arm because of palsy

@kathrynbraun2073 6 месяцев назад

I’m experiencing some serious pain in my shoulder blade, started 8 days ago…started in my shoulder blade(scapula), now more so in my elbow; there is radiating pain, as if my inner arm is being twisted. My body has been diagnosed with rheumatoid arthritis as of August 1916; my body has also been diagnosed with osteoarthritis…I have gone through physical(occupational I think, actually) spring of 2018(approximately) I am not certain what I am now experiencing is the same as experienced approximately 5 years ago… I was hoping to see demonstration of the same stretching and, “massaging” therapies I have been to my GP, was prescribed pain relievers, and while they are active, there is some relief, but that is only managing the pain, not the symptoms

@BobandBrad 6 месяцев назад

We would have to recommend you see your doctor again and insist on a more thorough exam to see what is causing the pain instead of just masking it with medication.

@SunGoddes113 2 года назад

I have an ergonomic setup at home (Motor desk, keyboard tray, compact keyboard, ergonomic mouse, ergonomic foam cushion for feet) and I still have shoulder pain. I workout 4-5x a week. I've been working from home since Covid but do go into the office a few days out of the week and I only seem to have pain while I'm working at home, I don't have this shoulder pain when I'm in the office on computer. Could this be because of muscle weakness and endurance?

@CptSupermrkt 2 года назад

Wow, almost the same situation here! I replaced my desk, chair, keyboard, and mouse, and still have pain in my mouse shoulder. I've raised the desk, lowered the desk, basically every combination of rearranging things. But what struck me with your comment was: this all began with work from home, and with recent optional return to office, I started going back twice a week just for change of scenery, and I've noticed that working in the office doesn't irritate my shoulder. This has been boggling my mind and I can't figure it out. Your comment was like 5 months ago, did you figure anything else out / any improvements?

@TheRealBibwitHarte Год назад

@@CptSupermrkt holy shit i am the exact same - any inisght?

@CptSupermrkt Год назад

@@TheRealBibwitHarte My condolences, man. I'm still struggling with this. I did change my working mouse to my left hand, and have gotten used to mousing left handed, and it has resulted in improvement, but it's still an issue. At this point, I'm almost convinced that there's like something psychological here, like if working at home it's easier to slouch and naturally fall into bad posture because people aren't looking and you aren't socially aware of the environment. What I have noticed is that at the office, with people around, I don't fall into that pattern, but at home alone, every so often I'll stop and realize, "whoa I've slid way forward in my chair over the past hour, very slowly" and then I'm sitting all screwed up. I have to admit though that things *have* improved since just becoming more conscious of being upright and alert even at home. It's still painful with that dull, burning, aching pain in the shoulder, but if I were to graph this thing out over the past year, I'm hopeful that it's entering a downward trend. The issue is that it doesn't go away completely, and sometimes the pain can be the worst it's ever been, but occasionally now I get periods where there is no pain. I'm assuming I've screwed up my shoulder and shoulder blade area so bad with bad posture over like 30 years, that it's *slowly* starting to heal, but it's gonna take a lot of time. I was in the movie theater last night watching a movie, and I realized, for the first time in like 3 years since Covid/WFH started, I was enjoying the movie without pain. But then that night, the pain was as worse as it's ever been. I can only assume though that by getting these flashes of painlessness, I'm headed in the right direction. I will say in terms of stretches, I *finally* found ones that are starting to feel effective for me (after years of watching generic "relieve neck pain this way!" videos), and that for me has been "thoracic mobility" stretches. This area of stretches focuses on rotating the upper back and digging into the shoulder blades. My god, it feels so good to me, and doing them at the peak of pain provides actually tangible relief. It's kind of weird to me that my shoulder is what's killing me and this seems to be what's effective, but I can only assume through nerves and shit (I'm not a doctor, lol), it's all connected, and so maybe this shoulder blade pain is what's causing the shoulder pain for me. In short, I'm not out of the woods yet, but just my update.

@Kermondale 3 года назад

I get "Shaky " when gaming on my computer too long!!!

@JKingSniper Год назад

Ah my shoulder hurts cause I kept stretching my arm when using mouse. Never had this problem at my own house with proper armrest.

@draco7090 3 года назад

😂😂 fucking love these guys already

@bejoyful 3 года назад

I was born with unequal shoulder blades; not sure if that has created my shoulder problems; for me, repetitive motion does create stresses on muscles and joints.

@markholm7050 3 года назад

My grandfather had a knob on his car’s steering wheel. I thought it was useful before power steering. Without power boost, the gear ratio had to be lower and that meant more turns of the steering wheel to get the same driving wheel angle. The knob came in handy when driving around town, making 90 degree turns at corners. Grandpa could, with the knob, spin the steering wheel through the necessary rotation more quickly and easily than the hand over hand method.

@aliceharvey1226 3 года назад

I remember that, my grandparents too. Pretty cool for turning corners.

@Kermondale 3 года назад

I have "That' issue

@miekolock4060 Год назад

Just started pc gaming and mouse shoulder is REAL!!! #MouseTrap

@justsaying7512 3 года назад

It's like watching fargo

@nataliehidalgo8933 3 года назад

Guys, if I did every stretch and exercise you post how much time would it take?

@BobandBrad 3 года назад

Everyone’s recovery time is different. Just keep up the good work and hopefully you’ll see results sooner then later !

@JohnHorneGuitar 3 года назад

I have guitar shoulder.

@eazyrat 3 года назад

All about the vertical mouse. You notice how less fatiguing it is straight away

@tarkovvoiplord6806 3 года назад

For real? I might give this a try

@eazyrat 3 года назад

@@tarkovvoiplord6806 100%. I broke mine like an idiot and had go use a standard old spare and it was immediately noticeable

@eazyrat 3 года назад

@@tarkovvoiplord6806 I have the trust gaming gxt would reccomend. Comes with programmable buttons

@thaibeka07 Год назад

Thank you so much 😭 I’m an ultrasound tech and this is a MAJOR career hazard for us

@bveracka Год назад

I never thought of that, but yeah, you're probably using a stand-up computer console all day, right? I use a computer at work all day, so I know that's how I developed it (and because it gets worse when I type a lot). Has it gotten any better with exercise, particularly these exercises?

@karenlatham4053 3 года назад

That's probably what's wrong with my shoulder.. Though when I sleep now, I sleep on my back with my arm on a pillow and that helps. As advised by the two most famous physical therapy guys on RU-vid. Until the next day when I screw it up again lol.

@karenlatham4053 3 года назад

@Fajny Piotruś on my pillow.

@karenlatham4053 3 года назад

@Fajny Piotruś I'm not sure sorry. I just know that when I place my arm across my body or put the pillow beside my body and place my arm on top of it it feels so much better.

@stefaanwalleghem2746 2 года назад

it seems the measurement is not the same for everyone as I have 10 cm and 12 cm on both sides which is more then 7.5 cm (or 3 inches)

@nataliehidalgo8933 3 года назад

It used to be Nintendo neck, now I don't know what they call it for the nonstop phone addiction people have looking down.

@GetUpTheMountains 3 года назад

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@DrewSorensenMusic 3 года назад

Yep. IT job. Mouse shoulder for sure. Spent $3,000 in PT cause of it two years ago. SMH. Still not 100%.

@JB-wx4wo 3 года назад

Haha love these guys

@shdwbnndbyyt 3 года назад

My problem must be that I am missing my metal bolts and nuts....

@peishanglee3994 3 года назад

you lost your nuts? I'm so sorry :(

@kaylamcooperd.c.7476 3 года назад

Commonly including hypertonic scalene mm w head translation forward. Leading perhaps to mouse neck associated w shoulder.

@alexanderklomp7820 3 года назад

Tips start at 5:45

@kirstyhesketh3919 2 года назад

👌🏻

@johnnyllooddte3415 3 года назад

now yall tell us,,, after a million miles

@sribecco 3 года назад

How long have you guys been married? 🤣

@ayowhat6139 3 года назад

Grow up.

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