What's crazy is that not only does Leo break down as he learns the truth, but so do we the audience. As the protagonist, we trust that everything he sees and hears is true, but this movie takes that a brilliantly betrays that. I don't think Mark Ruffalo got enough credit for his performance here. He's a truly talented. You guys outta put Zodiac on your list.
@@RamblersIncThat's right. Great call. It's actually a feature of a lot of movies recently. Just because we are following the story and learning along with the main character, it doesn't mean s/he is the best source. 🙂
He hasn't regressed, he knows the truth but is choosing to be lobotomized because he can't live with the guilt and grief of what happened. He'd rather just have his mind wiped.
A big-time inversion film which, thanks to Scorcese, spreads throughout the movie-verse. Yin) Teddy's remark about his wife dying by smoke (suffocating) vs fire (burning). Yang) Teddy submitting to his madness in the end to be free (Lobotomy) vs remaining psychologically imprisoned the rest of his days.
His guilt was too intense about not saving his wife and children so he saw himself as a villain. In the end he didn't regress he accepted reality and decided he can not live life knowing what he knows so he pretended he regressed to stop his suffering.
He decided to choose lobotomy to kill the monster he thought of himself for not getting his wife treatment when she needed it and asked for it. To him that’s what made him into a monster that he didn’t help his wife and in result she drowned their children as a final plead for help. He wanted it all to end no more loops
I can't stop thinking about that quote at the end. It's a good way to let us know that he didn't regress, but..... he wouldn't be dying as a good man right? He's be dying as a monster?
Lobotomy doesn’t necessarily mean death. He is hoping to erase the monster and become a good man. So when he eventually dies, he will die as a good man.
I do love the dream imagery in this film. We're all used to our own dreams being weird and disconnected, but it isn't something that's typically shown on screen that faithfully. It was as gorgeous as it was disturbing.
I always wondered if it was a hidden case of DID. He created that “character” because he couldn’t handle what he did. That last line asking if it’s better to live as a monster, or die as a good man was his alter making that choice, taking the burden off of Andrew.
One of the best reactions and you included all the key scenes! This is one of those movies that's confusing the first time you watch it but when you watch it the second time, everything starts to make sense and you're able to connect things together that completely went over your head the first time. Such an incredible movie.
Great film and reaction . I think you did a god job of understanding the film , you are supposed to be confused and have to think about it. I assume he knew and just wanted to end the cycle so accepted being lobotomised . I can understand him wanting to end his mental suffering as well as being a danger to others. On a re-watch you see lots of clues , especially how the other patients and the staff react to him
Yeh we figured out he knew. It's just the "die as a monster line" which will haunt us forever lol. Oh that's a great point. It's probably really obvious when you watch it a second time.
The trick was the apartment fire story which was a metaphor. He was the maintenance man and lit the fire. He did NOT take proper care of his ill wife (maintenance) and her actions set his internal blaze.
I'm new to the channel guys but fantastic reaction. Please, if you haven't already react to "Nope". Love to see your thoughts on that one and how you bounce ideas off each other 🤓🇬🇧
If u don't believe me about the Batman vs Joker narrative, consider the Dark Knight line from Harvey "Two-Face" Dent: "You either die a hero... Or you live long enough to see yourself become...THE VILLAIN!"
The single most powerfully hidden aspect of Shutter Island lies in one of it's stars...Mark Ruffalo. A film that deals with a man suffering from a severe split-personality disorder, is best served in having the ultimate monster-ego portray the primary caregiver of this victim of such an identity crisis. "Paging Dr Hulk, to the Lighthouse STAT!!"
@@RamblersInc the key is when Kingsley tells Teddy how he snapped when Noyce called him Leidus. "Youll do ANYTHING not to be Leidus!" That my friend, is Hulk vs Banner 101.
@@RamblersInc not to mention the inverse of...Bruce Wayne who can't STOP being Batman while the Joker has fully immersed himself in that identity. Audiences are such targets brother. Please take my words to heart.
Hide and seek is also a great thriller mystery, starring Robert de Niro and dakota fanning. Really creepy, great reactions guys I found your identity reaction and havnt looked back
29:58 pretty much sums up what the movie makes you feel 36:56 no. Unfortunately you don’t. 37:44 got it This movie is great. it messes with your mind from start to finish trying to figure out what is going on. Even when you think you’ve got it, it will introduce something that makes you second guess everything. Really enjoyed your reaction.
@@RamblersInc lol. Hey when I watched it the first time I was still searching for the right answers up until the end. Going from one theory to the next and back to the first.