SILICONE ANTIFOULING: How did it hold after 2 years? (Watch before applying!)

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In January 2020, we replaced our traditionnal biocide antifouling with a silicone based antifouling from Hempel (not sponsored, we payed for it).
We had to scrape our entire hull bare and replace the primer, add a tie coat and apply two layers of the silic-one.
So how do it do? Find out in this video!
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@waynemckee9170 2 года назад

Great Lakes! You must go to the North Channel…..top cruising ground in the World! ( yes I’m Canadian) fresh clean water sailing.

@sailorsam6494 2 года назад

I wonder were the cilcon goes, In the end?

@miked1102 2 года назад

Did you say the Great Lakes? Hope you are planning to come up to the North Channel. We have been cruising the North Channel for 34 years and would love to meet you up here. We moved to the North Channel area for the cruising. We also have a Beneteau 40 which you inspired us to purchase.

@akathesquid5794 2 года назад

Silicone. CONE. not CON. Carry on.

@crapisnice 2 года назад

that's a lot of toxic petrochemical crap, you can contact with Precious Plastics and recycle HDPE in sheets to weld under the waterline, they will also absorb collisions and are puncture resistant (river boats use HDPE as well) against uncharted reefs or debris. ET VOILA NO MORE FOULING

@allenmayers3642 6 месяцев назад

Should mention what waters the boat was in, salt, fresh, temperate, tropic ... etc.

@brownnoise357 2 года назад

Hi there. I like the look of that very much. For your propeller, have a think about painting it with aerosol Cold Zinc, but do not get the Marine one like Pettit's, which is identical to ordinary Cold Zinc Gal arising Spray, about 8 times more expensive due that dreaded Word "Marine" and you can get it in Handlers. Here in UK, I've seen it for around 8 pounds a large tin. Patently putting 3 coats on, and it should work as antifouling for about 18 months, depending on the water the boat is in. Major Bonus Point, it also works as an additional Saxrificial Anode ! I think the material is actually a blend of Aluminium and Zinc. Plus when you haul out, just wash and rub down, then when dry, spray more coats on . I've checked it out on several boating forums, and a fair number of people say it is that good, they won't consider using anything else, withnsome using it for over 10 years. Extra Anode Protection ? Heck I'll haul out annually to check Anodes and annual Service and check over anyway. Plus you won't have to buy extra to do the prop . tbh, I'll paintbthe bronze though hulls and bow Thruster with it anyway. Best Wishes, and thanks for the look see at that stuff. impressive. Best Wishes. Bob. 👍🙂

@mini752 2 года назад

So… what if it DOESN’T work that great? I want to try it, but what do they say about getting it off and using any other coating ever again? Are you stuck with it forever?

@RyanSophieSailing 2 года назад

It’s just like with traditional anti-fouling. If you want to try something else (copper coat for example), you have to scrape it all off and start over. We did it when we switched over to silicone based, which is not super fun, but also not a giant hassle.

@garry5608 2 года назад

They also sell a removal liquid to make it easier. Have no experience if this tho

@ChasingContours Месяц назад

Has anyone tried this vs Coppercoat for a long term cruising boat?

@789train 2 года назад

hi ryan, thanks for great videos. when you recoat the bottom with silicone, do you have to use the primer, tie and topcoat again, or can you just add topcoat? do you have to sand all the old stuff off? i have pettit trinidad hard bottom paint that has not been in the water yet. do to unfortunate circumstances this paint has gone beyond its splash time and has to be sanded and reapplied . maybe i could put silicone over it ?

@dyrectory_com 2 года назад

Ryan, you're so helpful and I really appreciate your thoroughness in the knowledge you share! Thank you! 👍🏼

@EricSmith-lf6cz 2 года назад

I always enjoy Ryan's technical reviews. It is good to hear about a product that actually performs as promised. (Did Ryan let some future plans slip out? I am not a Patron so this is the first I heard about travel to the Great Lakes. That should be a VERY interesting series of videos. )

@RyanSophieSailing 2 года назад

Hehehe, yes, you paid attention! ;)

@phillipcorey2182 2 года назад

Couldn't agree more. I have been using SilicOne on our 54 footer for 5 years and have no regrets. Easy to maintain and cost effective.

@earthstick 3 месяца назад

I just antifouled my prop with this. Hasn't gone in yet but it's a bit wavey now, not smooth. I don't know if this will affect the efficiency of the prop. I put it on because I got barnacles last year and people told me they ruin the efficiency, I hope I have not ruined it by having a wavey surface to the prop.

@tammy6992 2 года назад

That’ll be good to see you in the great lakes

@i1uvpreppyxo887 7 месяцев назад

Great video. I'm planning to make the change but my travelift operator has expressed his concerns about the front anf style slings slipping. What did your guys do to minimise that?

@rucanito1 2 года назад

Hi Ryan, I wouldn’t recommend you using silic one in the propeller. I applied it three years ago (I am using silic one since 2017) and it didn’t work. It seems that Spinning speed of the propeller is too much for it. I have experienced waiting for three years with the boat in the water, and it’s too much time. From now on, my idea is houling every two years with layer renewal, and a “half” houling in the firs year for just a pressure water cleaning, as some grass growth van be expected. Fair winds!

@RyanSophieSailing 2 года назад

Good feedback, thanks.

@BJ-hs2sl 8 месяцев назад

I gave my boat the full treatment of SilicOne at the start of last season (2024) . Sand blast, Hempel epoxy primer, tie coat and top coat all exactly as the spec says with times and temperatures all correct. At the end of the season I can say that it has worked almost perfectly. There were 3 small (hand size) parches where the top coat and tie coat had peeled. I am worried that the instructions give no indication of abrading the epoxy before the tie coat. I contacted the agents before application and they said it was "wet on wet" application. I gave special attention to the time and temperature between coats and complied with that. (no sanding) I am worried that they may have omitted the instruction to sand the epoxy before the tie coat in the instruction leaflet. Incidentally I gave the propeller the same treatment and it has adhered perfectly! Did you sand your primer epoxy?

@MrGeoMarin 2 года назад

Thanx a lot - very informative and useful!

@donkinzer5718 2 года назад

Thanks for the informative video. It sounds like Ryan is saying "silicon" but I'm sure he meant "silicone" - they are two very different things (and pronounced differently)..

@Neptune730 2 года назад

Thanks you saved me from having to say the same thing.

@brownnoise357 2 года назад

.I think there's a bit of a clue in the name Silic 1 One ? Apparently you can make home made, with half a tube of Silicone, mixed with an equal volume of Acetone and thoroughly mixed together. Does sound a bit too easy to screw up then have a nightmare removing it tbh. 🤔 Just for giggles, I might try it in patches of different types on the bottom of an Aluminum RIB. I'm a bit hooked on Testing stuff out. My Curiosity is outdoing Cats so far. 🙂👍

@kriswaelput Месяц назад

And is the silicone not blasted off when they high pressure clean it in the crane ?

@patighayereagbonkpolor1156 2 года назад

Hi there, I found a firm called "Finsulate" on the internet. they have an antifoulingwrap, on wich they give five years garantie. The founder of this firm had mainly the invironment in mind when he looked for an alternatif for chemical antifouling. Maybe something for you to explore

@DStrayCat69 4 месяца назад

How would you apply it to a "Bow Thruster"??? Thanks 🙂

@Sailingengineer74 2 года назад

I do recommend Jotun Megayacht , Hempel Globic etc. These are 90 months shipantifoulings, they last as expected, no whatsoever marine growth. Cost maybe a little higher. May be painted in cold weathers...simple to apply. In all, these paints are toxic but a far more simple solution in the end. More sustainable than fancy 2yr ecopaints. Think about it, no haul out for 5-7years and a clean bottom. Anodes may be replaced under water, bottom inspected easily... I never go back to the leisure market hokuspokus paints 😅

@Sailingengineer74 2 года назад

@Post Toasty Just ast your boatyard , nearest Jotun dealer etc These paints are only sold to shipyards, professional use, bigger boatyards. Your boatyard is a good place to begin. As these are only used under superyachts and ships. As these paimts arent approved for DIY.

@markbailey6051 5 месяцев назад

Will the new paint stick to the last paint? When not in use, cover the propeller with a canvas bag to stop growth.

@ronthor5621 8 месяцев назад

Do you know if it will rub off when loading it on a trailer? I don’t stay in the ocean for more than 2 months

@Secondwind2010 8 месяцев назад

If you are American quote the prices in dollars

@ryanwyatt6135 Год назад

what happens say after 5 yrs or do it's getting heavy from antifoul how you getting this stuff off

@sarahkohlmd984 2 года назад

So happy to learn that you had success. I’d be interested to learn about your Great Lakes experience as they often use different products on boats than ones in salt water. It’d be nice to have a product which works both places, less toxic and easier care for bottom of boat (simple wiping)

@RyanSophieSailing 2 года назад

Thats a chemical issue, but because this does not have biocied in it should work fine

@WillN2Go1 2 года назад

Terrific information. Thanks. In a year or two when my bi-weekly scuba scrubber tells me I need to haul out and repaint, I'll probably use this.

@ashannon38 4 месяца назад

Let me know what it looks like after a month in the harbor at Cartagena.

@paulvlug812 2 года назад

Cool, I used silic 1 on my aluminium charter fishing boat, yes very pleased, after 12 months a few spots needed repairs which was easy to do, in 12 more months I will do the total bottom with one coat.

@cgeorge6250 2 года назад

Yes!! This is what we have seen searching for!! Thank you for sharing the info.👍👍

@redwood1957 Месяц назад

hows it holding up in Aug 2024

@ToddBryantsr 2 года назад

Great video and update! Thank you! Can the paint be applied using a sprayer? Would you recommend this? Would it provide any benefits?

@marzdens6051 2 года назад

Great update on the product, seems to be working well. I may go that route next time around Thank you

@uwe.koehler 2 года назад

Really great to get your first hand experience with this class of product. Following the manufacturer's instructions is always a good idea 😉

@dholtz3 2 года назад

Great video! Love to hear how it works in the Great Lakes.

@mr.e7022 2 года назад

Any United States distributors?

@ni59gel 11 месяцев назад

how do you pronounce "cone" ? As in silicone.

@Grand-paws 2 года назад

Looking forward to you coming to the great lakes.

@RyanSophieSailing 2 года назад

Gonna be fun?

@goofy4birds 2 года назад

awesome, love it when share maintenance and tech tips

@manfredgrobel2068 6 месяцев назад

I tested Silic One on my prop and found it did not hold very long. After just a few days parts got loose. But I had painted also the saildrive and there it worked pretty well. Still slippery after 2 years.

@earthstick 3 месяца назад

When you painted the prop with it, did you achieve a smooth surface, or did it have brush strokes and waviness?

@jimguy08 2 года назад

Great Lakes, you say?????

@jsveb5373 2 года назад

Nice review. Worth considering. 🙏

@RyanSophieSailing 2 года назад

Sure is

@Jac_light 2 года назад

Propspeed for your prop?

@tyvandm 2 года назад

Lake Superior (especially Isle Royal) is some of the best cruising; great wilderness and few other boats! Get a copy of "Superior Way" by Bonnie Dahl - it's the bible for cruising Lake Superior; every boat takes great care of their copy as it is now out of print

@RyanSophieSailing 2 года назад

Don't think we will make it that far west but it does sound cool

@tyvandm 2 года назад

@@RyanSophieSailing Excited to see how far you guys go!

@MindBodySoulOk 8 месяцев назад

Too much trouble

@SteelDoesMyWill 2 года назад

Why can't people read, understand, and speak the difference between SILICON and SILICONE? It's not a simple typo or misspoken word, the difference is critical because the two compounds are extraordinarily different.

@colinboniface194 2 года назад

interesting...

@willarddevoe5893 2 года назад

One of your microphones is painfully hollow and plastic sounding. With Audacity 1.2.6 free software, you could simultaneously record scenes with a good microphone and then switch identical soundtracks and edit them. Since your boat's bottom is slippery, why not paint on warning placards? If your fin makes it into the Great Lakes, you're in another world.

@user-pf5xq3lq8i 2 года назад

Did the boatyard slings rub it off like the snubber did?

@RyanSophieSailing 2 года назад

No... the subber has taken about 2 years to do that work

@manfredgrobel2068 6 месяцев назад

SilicOne worked fine on the saildrive. No growth, but it did not stick on the propeller. After a few weeks parts were altesdy gone. Now I use Jotun. Seems to work much better for the propeller.

@billjeffery2419 2 года назад

great lakes!!!!

@brownnoise357 2 года назад

Hi Ryan. I just watched your original Silic One video, and you put it on with original antifouling under it, with three top coats. Are you saying it is better to put it onto the surface of the Hull (better for me, as .I'll be getting a new boat God willing), or the Agent doing the Commissioning does their usual Hard Antifouling, which would probably be a good base otherwise, as yours Silic one application appears to be doing well. 👍 In Addition, I've found out more about the Cold Zinc Calvanising materials available, and one type in particular (various Brands) appears very promising. At 96% Zinc, you can get it for around 24 pounds for a 1 kilo Tin, it is mixed with a silicon binder, and doesn't need mixing in the Tin ! appliable with Brush or roller, each coat is over 1mm thick. Zinc too is a non Toxic Material ! tbh, I'm very tempted to try it as an antifoul with say 4 coats , which will also be a giant anode for the Boat. Maybe the fixed Zincs would never wear out ? Each haulout, just wash, dry, light fine grade scrub, and slap on more Coats ? 10 tins I reckon will do a 44 ft boat easy, with lots of tins left over. Think it's worth the experiment as the first antifouling on a new hull, plus twin rudders, to see what happens ? Best Wishes and Fair Winds. Bob. 🤔🙂👍

@badcaptainsailing Год назад

Another great video. Interestingly enough, I am applying Temple Silic One to my Hylas 46 next week. I am looking forward to the same results.

@frosty2424cmp Год назад

Thank you, very helpful, now wondering how to get it here in Canada! Welcome to Canada in advance! Maybe we might cross paths I am setting sail from Lake Huron and down the Erie Canal in May. Safe travels!

@guydauderman1645 2 года назад

When you mentioned you were going to be in the Great Lakes did you mean the Great Lakes (Lake Michigan, Huron & Superior) around Michigan?

@sailingfabule1805 2 года назад

Hi Sophie and Ryan, Would you recommend it for an aluminum boat please? We have a Boréal 47.2 and I was thinking about that for our next antifooling. Thanks you in advance for your advice. Salutations de Tréguier Yan

@Asmundlind Год назад

Ryan, how hard is the silicon anti fouling compared to regular one, and does it color off the same way? That’s a real bummer when doing something near the boat in the water or diving to inspect it/ brush of log etc, coloring sticks to everything :(:(

@jeffbeitz6141 2 года назад

Are you guys doing the Loop next season? Georgian Bay is stunning! 30,000 island within 125 miles of the eastern shore

@svZigZag Год назад

Hi Ryan, Hi Sophie! Since you are heading to the Great Lakes this summer, I highly recommend you consider traveling through the Trent Severn Waterway. Assuming you have shoal draft of well under 6ft. We took our Jeanneau 49ds “SV Zig Zag” through westbound last summer and had an awesome trip. We are currently wintering over in Kingston NY on the lower Hudson River. We’ll be heading to New England this summer season and then Southbound in 2024.

@brownnoise357 2 года назад

PS to below. That 96% Zinc Cold Galvanising Paint, seems perfect for keeping galvanised anchors in tip top condition as well. I was going to go with a 25kg Rocna, but the same weight Mantus 2 is two-thirds the price at the moment, and it definitely fits Jeanneau the SO 440 bowsprit abchor roller very well. Cheers. Bob.

@rd9028 2 года назад

Good job 👍

@thomsonsails 2 года назад

When you finally got some barnacles did they come off easily, without a scraper?

@TravelStyleNews Год назад

Hempel Silic One aparently you have to go 8 / 10 , Just read this . Silic One is more suited to power boats, as it needs a minimum speed of around 8-10kts to keep it clean. The most important aspect

@RyanSophieSailing Год назад

Yeah, it works very well on power boats and I wound not recommded it on boats shorter than ours but it does and has worked for us for the last two.years. so it's an actual data point

@TravelStyleNews Год назад

I bought 900 euros woth and can not find a Marina in Barcelona that will lift with Silicon Antifowl.* This was before your video

@nealgrant7727 2 года назад

Nice 👍

@timp.9582 2 года назад

Painted a few super tankers with Hempel X7. Expensive evolution

@longglide1176 Год назад

Thanks for the excellent video! In the description when you say you scraped the hull bare, did you leave the epoxy barrier coat or did you take it all the way down to the original gel coat?

@familyupgrade 2 года назад

Oh YEAH! I tots gonna do a smooth hull on the cat Im gonna sail around the world in. This is GREAT! Thaks, Ryan! /Catta

@Tomm9y 4 месяца назад

I'm tempted to change mine next time, especially as I keep it in the water for only a few weeks at a time. Thanks for the infomative report.

@paulyaron2410 Год назад

Ryan - you mentioned the Hempel silicone paint is subject to abrasion, yet then discussed apply to the prop, a very abrasive area. I have been very impressed with the performance of propspeed a silicone polymer. Look forward to learning what you applied to the Prop.

@user-zo6xg8bx4l 2 года назад

I ALWAYS enjoy and find informative the videos you two make!! Fair winds!!!

@justingeturgun 11 месяцев назад

To bad you can’t get this in the USA. Just worked on a boat that has this. This stuff is amazing

@peterfrebold 2 года назад

.... was just recently wondering how your bottom paint was holding out and if it worked as well as you were told it would .... seems like you are giving 5 star rating of success all around .... thx for the update .... thx for sharing .. as always .. never stop dreaming, just dream bigger .. have fun be safe, save our oceans ....

@rb239rtr 2 года назад

You said "Great Lakes"?

@RyanSophieSailing 2 года назад

Sure did ;)

@oscarschmitt216 2 года назад

Kia Ora, thank you very much for this very interesting video. Wish you alle the best cheers Siegmar

@rashie 2 года назад

👍👍

@JohnJohn-cu7nk 2 года назад

👍

@geoffrey4513 2 года назад

Interesting. Bless you for using greener products, Ryan. Taking note for the day I get my own boat 😅

@dasielmolina4868 2 года назад

Hi Ryan, during the time that you had your paint where have you been cruising? And have you found it worked better in some areas better than others. I am about to paint my bottom too and would like an alternative to bioside antifouling. I have been considering Copper coat.

@MrBobVick 2 года назад

Ryan nice update, but we watch this channel for Sophie. So you all are going to sail the great lakes?

@garry5608 2 года назад

We tried the same paint this year and it’s been amazing! We’re in a high fouling area and we just get a tiny bit of fine green weed around the waterline, which easily wipes off. The boats around us have the toxic stuff and they’re always fouled up. We won’t be going back to the toxic stuff! It’s better for the sea and makes us faster too.

@boazjoe1 2 года назад

Great Lakes?! I am feeling a meet and greet coming on and makes me tingle. (creepy, huh)

@franckvandiest2829 Год назад

Thanks Ryan! Going to apply it too with peace of mind now. :-)

@joejoemcgee 2 года назад

How is the weight compared to Copper? Is there much difference?

@jamesgordon2289 2 года назад

Thanks Ryan, interesting and informative. great Vid as always

@pontoonrob7948 2 года назад

Great Lakes? If you make it to Traverse City or Leelanau county reach out.

@seatopiascuba3540 2 года назад

Super great video! Keep the informative information coming.

@pereugenkristiansen6324 2 года назад

What is the brand of the manufacturer of your bottom paint?f

@philippeaudet5997 2 года назад

Fantastic! Great review and helpful.

@dutchglobetrotter4513 2 года назад

Very informative video, I heard about this paint just never met anyone that had it applied.

@donfults1 2 года назад

Thanks Ryan!!! Love your tech talks!

@larslind1815 2 года назад

very helpful review - I assume you spend most of the time with the boat in warmer waters during the period with this antifoul applied ? having seen this I am considering trying it our here in Dubai, United Arab Emirates on my 2008 Beneteau Oceanis 40 ... BTW have installed 48v 15kwh lithium house battery bank and 48v 4kw alternator on the engine ... can now run two a/c units onboard overnight from batteries only ... cool and silent ;-)

@RyanSophieSailing 2 года назад

Thats cool Lars (in more ways than one). Yes... the boat was generally in the warmer atlantic waters

@m.hardijufri4401 Год назад

thanks for the knowledge

@joeldelamirande5792 2 года назад

Have you gained more speed

@Cheers_Warren 2 года назад

Hempel products not readily available in USA but sounds good stuff. What is it like on a seasonal boat out of water 6 months of year? A simple 'dri-diver' would be great for removing growth in cold waters. Cheers Warren

@RyanSophieSailing 2 года назад

I realized this when I started looking a few weeks ago but I think thats going to be changing in the future.

@MrCrabbing 2 года назад

I wonder if it would be ok on a steel boat

@mcouture8169 2 года назад

Prior to applying your primer and silicon, you and Sophie spent days sanding the hull. In the photo shown of the peeling silicon, it doesn't appear as though your friends pre-sanded their hull. Do you know if they did so? By not means am I certain that this is the case, but I am curious. Many thanks for another wonderful video!

@RyanSophieSailing 2 года назад

Yes, they did…. But they waited too long between coats, which resulted in the peeling :/

@WidleyWesident Год назад

Interesting to hear such positive thoughts on silicone antifouling. Nearly tempting but my boatyard has already announced that they won’t lift or handle any boat with silicone antifouling. Why? Not sure but they are unyielding.

@petergreen3381 8 месяцев назад

Because slings on crane or hoist cannot grip properly and risk of boat being dropped is dramatically increased. Additionally slings can abrade the paint easily leading to claims from owners for remedial work.