It was definitely retconned for the movie for reasons unknown. In Season 2's "The Happy Wanderer" after the first executive game under Tony is over he begins to reminesce with Silvio how when they were kids they used to peak through the door to watch the game being run and then getting chased out by Feech.
Even if Silvio was 11 years older than Tony, why would he look like he's in his 30's, balding, and already an established soldier where hes in his early 20's?
Some guys that begin balding at a young age can look 38 and be 23, or something like that. I just took it like that. Not defending that ridiculous movie. Yeah I was kinda taken aback when the film shows Sil rights there with Johnny and Junior’s generation. But Pussy was right there too. All supposedly very young.
Tony and Sil argued about Columbus Day because it was supposed to be Tony and Paulie. Tony Sirico, who played Paulie, was injured and couldn’t film that episode as written, so the characters were changed. Silvio’s anger about Columbus Day makes more sense when you know that part was written for Paulie.
I think that it was wise and acceptable for Silvio - the epitome of cool, calm, and reason - to have one or two minor personality quirks - namely about Columbus Day and cardplaying (he would get really worked up).
That's because half the movie has nothing to do with the series, and should have been cut entirely. We all know what I mean, and we all know I'm right.
I've always assumed Syl was about 5-8 years older than Tony. The reason Syl stuck close to Tony is because Johnny Boy asked him to, after seeing his reaction to the severed finger incident at the pork store and realized that his son might have what it takes to be a varsity mobster. Sylvio had to mentor Tony, somebody had to after Dickie's death, so Johnny Boy likely impressed upon Sylvio to do just that, which could explain why he might be with a younger crew.
It raises even more questions about Tony's age. I thought Tony was born in 57-60 time frame but in 1968 Tony was almost grown. Pushing his years of birth from 50-54 years. Am I trippin?
I would give that role to paulie more than sil remember paulie was with him for his first kill that’s who he wanted to be like growing up tony said it himself sil is definitely his age group and behind Jackie his Bestfriend many saints just fucked up a lot of timelines in my opinion
It actually seems like Sylvio was born in the late 30s if Tony was born in 1958? Remember at the beginning of Saints Sylvio was counting money at the pork store he had to be close to 30 at that time. Which was supposed to be 1967
Remember, this was Chrissy's version of events relayed from beyond the grave. Who could be a more "unreliable narrator?" There were a lot more profound differences than Sil's age. In the series, Johnny Boy never went to prison following his arrest at the carnival. In the film he went away two years or so. The Sopranos family had their own house in the movie and Johnny Boy already owned or at least controlled Satriales while in the series they apparently lived in an upper floor apartment and Johnny wouldn't take over Satriales until two or three years later. Rocky never appears in the film though he may have been alluded to as the reason Johnny went to prison for assault. But worst of all were some of the hackneyed movie tropes scattered throughout the film like the protagonist falling for his father's wife, then her sleeping with his worst enemy and the unrealistic manner in which Dickie dispatched her when he found out. And parts played out.more like an action film, like the shootout between Dickie and Harold.. It was almost like a screenplay written by Christopher Moltisanti.
So Christopher felt that because Junior gave him a high colonic that he would whack his dad! And Silvio's lucky he didn't have a big red bozo nose for whacking Adrianna.
@@winojoe6788 I predicted Junior would be the one who had Dickie whacked. I was wrong about Livia though. I figured she would lure Junior into doing it like in season one.
I always thought it made more sense that Sil was older. His “I knew you since you were a kid” line adds to that. Ralphie’s talk to Jackie Jr. could have been total BS. Sil’s loyalty to Tony could be more about his strict adherence to mob code.
Lol he is older but not that much older. I always thought he was 5 to ten years older meaning there was a time they were both kids together and a time where Sil is a teen. And Tony still a kid.
Yes. And in the pilot episode, he says to Tony that Artie is the guy Tony went to high school with. That doesn't mean Sil was or wasn't older, but it would fit that he's older than Tony.
@@randyortonsbulge Yeah I was also thinking 5 to 10 years older. Enough to be a big difference when you’re younger, but not that big of a deal once you’re at the ages they were in the series.
actually it maybe wasnt bullshit. Maybe their "crew" consisted of those people and they all essentially worked for Sil. Sil was younger than Tony's dad hes about 10 years older than Tony give or take. So Tonys dad essentially enlists him to look after Tony and get him started doing small time shit.
@@toddpick8007 Yeah, maybe not BS and what you say could make sense. I wonder though because other than that comment from Ralph, there’s no indication he was ever close with Tony when they were younger.
Stevie was born in 1950 James was born in 1961. I feel they were playing characters around the same age they were in real life. So Silvio was around 11 years older than Tony.
That doesn’t seem unrealistic at all in any walk of life. Everyone of us worked with folks ten years older than us, even maybe right from 18-19, and they’ve always felt like peers. Plus in the show nobody thought Silvio and Tony were close enough in age to say go to high school together.
Thank you , but all due respect, The Many Saints of Newark pretty much sucked all around, besides the Silvio and Tony timeline which they dropped the ball on as you astutely pointed out. I wanted to see/hear more of the younger Livia Soprano which Vera Farmiga really nailed it from what I remember. Great also AKA as Norma Bate’s mommy from Bates Motel. Sylvia was my favorite member of Tony’s crew
She was tremendous playing a young Livia, and she had big shoes to fill. I definitely think the movie would have been better off focusing more attention on Tony's home life, giving Vera more opportunity to shine as the iconic character.
@@WowLynchWow The movie was much worse than you even portrayed it pal. It sucked. Period. It was so bad ( watched twice & couldn't bring ourselves to watch again ) that it is the worst prequel ever made. Seriously.
I also didn't like how they made Sil bald in the movie. Obviously Steven Van Zandt is bald in real life but they never implied Silvio was bald in the show. Even when he was comatose in the hospital, we still saw him with his hair.
@@saljpal3 the movie was a monstrosity like I said, above! Fucking horrible! No, it was never joked about nor was it ever proven that Silvio had a hairpiece. Also, when he was in his coma, after being shot, he still has his hairpiece on perfectly? Because it wasn’t his hairpiece it was his actual hair. What they just ruffle up his hair when he was in a coma? The dude had a full head of hair. I don’t know who thought he had a hairpiece! I think one of the riders did poor ass editing, never rewatch the sopranos, and just assumed that Silvio Dante had a hairpiece, because the actors actually bald. However, the hairpiece within the sopranos show was supposed to be real. This guy wasn’t balding to begin with, and that over the top Puss on his face was fucking horrible acting. The show Steven Van Zandt was able to pull it off perfectly, but this actor and the many Saints of Newark did a horrible job betraying that character. Honestly, the editors, producers and directors should be ashamed of themselves. Thank God this movie kind of traveled under the radar! Hopefully it gets thrown out into non-existence and they start over with a new prequel directed by somebody with sense. When making the prequel, you don’t have to cover everything and everybody all at once, and just naming it after one of their last names. focus on a plot. I have all the characters who have something to do in that plot in the movie leave out anyone who is on necessary do not go out of your way to show an Easter egg stop overdoing it with Easter eggs, even like “sisters, Cunt“ of which Junior said three times in the fucking movie when he only said it during one scene of the entire series of the sopranos. After he said it slipping in the shower, he never said it again, but in the movie it’s like his “go to word“. That just tells me somebody looked at a skit of Junior soprano scenes did not do their research rushed everything and put it in the movie. SMH the same shit they did with that 2018 GOTTI movie with John Travolta. This had the same type of formula which ruined the movie. Movie lacked style, had no feel hadn’t nothing. You look like you were just seeing a bunch of lowlife stinky old men yelling at each other, sitting down all day, and the occasional murder with another city. One dude kills everybody and then he gets killed by another black guy but we don’t even know who that character is. I guess he’s some big capo within the family but he’s never introduced. The only time he’s introduced is when he collects money and then he gets shot outside of a bar room SMH, movie made no fucking sense at all and it kind of irritated me because of the lack of skills people have in Hollywood these days. Tells me that most of these positions were filled due to the color of peoples skin or the sex between their legs. SMH sucks. Not a good way. Tell you that.
They both also had daughters (Heather Dante & Meadow Soprano) who were around the same age and even played on the same soccer team. Their wives (Gab & Carmela) are friends and around the same age as well.
People start families at different ages. You may become friends with other parents because of kids and those parents may be different ages. There are people my age who have grandchildren while my kids are preteens. We befriend parents of our kids' friends. Some are older than us. Some are younger. Some are the same age.
Tony had a well respected Father and Uncle while Jackie had Ritchie his older brother so that sped the process up for them in a way. While Ritchie got locked up Jackie may have been promoted to captain of that crew and Tony was probably promoted after his father died. Keep in mind that Johnny boy and Junior had their own crews at that time as well as Ritchie.
There's a scene in the Sopranos, and I don't recall the episode, but in the scene, Tony has a moment of recollection, and reminds Silvio how they, when kids, would sneak around the back and watch Johnny Boy through the slits as he conducted business and how Johnny Boy would often chase them away. Chase, like their both kids! Then I watch The Many Saints, and not only is Silvio not a kid, but he's clearly made his bones! This was not a man who was being chased by Johnny Boy....Or, hanging out with Tony! Sorry, it's hard to watch The Many Saints without getting pissed off over these horrible continuity errors. For me, the Many Saints was a missed opportunity. And, the fact that we didn't get Feech's card game is just astounding. David Chase needed to step back and let someone else skipper this thing.
Also in the card game (The Executive Game) Tony says: "We now run the executive game. Sil, remember when me and you used to look through that crack in that painted door. While my old man and Uncle Junior had it?" SIL: "Yeah I Remember." TONY: "Junior was even a prick back then, he come out and chase us down the street."
I always imagined Silvio being Tony's "boss" in the little mini-crew, right up until Tony busted up the card game, like he would give Tony and Ralphie and Jackie tips or pointers, and in return, they kicked up to him a healthy cut. Then Tony's dad Johnny and his Uncle Junior have to step in and smooth things over and make sure Tony doesn't get killed after what goes down at the card game. Part of that effort to make amends is Tony performing his first hit alongside Paulie and Big Pussy taking him out to celebrate. Then he goes down to Florida after the hit to wait until things calm down. A little bit after that he's not a Made Guy but he's a soldier or an associate or whatever, until he's formally inducted into the crew, and becomes an officially made guy. For all its faults I really want a second movie but I worry that the chances of that happening are slim to none. It's a shame because there are still quite a few more stories to tell. Tony dropping out of college, the robbery of the card game, Tony's first hit, his trip to Florida to lie low, marrying Carmella when he finds out she's having Meadow, and Tony getting Made.
Ya same, or that Tonys dad or Jr enlisted Silvio to watch out for Tony and all the younger kids coming up, school them properly and get them started doing small time shit that wouldnt result in any big jail time if caught.
The only worthwhile take aways from the Many Saints IMO were that Chris's father was actually murdered by Jr, that snake, and getting one last glimpse of Gandolfini's charm through his son. The story was third rate and some of the casting and acting, typically the most reliable parts of a major production, were downright terrible.
My favorite aspects of the movie definitely involved Junior and Livia, who were also easily 2 of my favorites from the series. I would have enjoyed the movie more had they focused more attention on those aspects of the bigger story.
The movie had many flaws which contradict the show. The one being Dickie, aside from Tony we never heard much about him in the series. Here, Silvio, Paulie and Pussy are part of his crew and not once in their heart to hearts with Chris do they mention they even knew him, let alone were mentored by him. When uncle Junior has a problem with Chris and Brendon and discussed it with Livia, they both act as if he’s just a new kid on the block instead of being the son of somebody they knew let alone how fond livia was of Dickie. Tony says he’s taking out a girl named Carmela to Dickie, yet in the series we know she’s related to him.
I had the same thoughts about Sil & Tony's bond he had to be maybe 3_4 years older, but no more to make the back story of robbing the card game work. Paulie was 59 or 60 in season 1 Tony 40, so given how invested i was, i assumed Silvio was about 44-45 in season 1.
George RR Martin had zero involvement into later seasons of GOT and only wrote one episode per season for the first few seasons. He clearly stated himself that he could always voice his opinions but he never had creative control.
In my opinion Silvio took Tony under his wing after Dickie got popped. Silvio was the only person to speak up for Tony in Many Saints and when Tony started hitting licks he kicked up to Silvio because Sil had an arm around him. I heard Silvio tell Tony once "I've known you since you were a kid" , I took that as Sil being older.
Sil is somewhere around the age of 439 at the start of the film The Many Saints of Newark and is around the age of 1,327 by the end of The Sopranos series finale...... he also survived that shooting in the car, he is in fact and immortal creature that derives all of his power from his pompadour
Maybe Sil used Tony for some things while T was still in high school. Mickey Mouse jobs. Jackie, Ralph. Tony’s age kids who was already familiar with the life. Big Pussy’s age threw me off. But he might have just been between Tony and Sil’s ages.
Many Saints showed us a 16 year old Tony who was not in the game yet at all and a Silvio who recognized his potential from the get go. The Series also made it clear Silvio was older and more experienced than Tony as well. For all we know… their bond developed between the movie and when Johnny Boy Soprano died. It also needs to be mention that if Silvio was a made guy, he would have to kick up so of Tony and Jacke were making a good living as associates… He isn’t above getting in on their action. What we saw makes sense when we really consider all things.
Seeing comments that Tony reminisced with Sil about getting chased away from the card games together. If Tony was misremembering, would Sil have really been expected to correct him there?
Awesome video me and my brother were just discussing this same topic throughout the last couple of days as I rewatched Many Saints and we both just finished the Sopranos series for at least a 15th time and I brought this question up first as we often bounce Sopranos theories info etc off on another and we came to the same assumptions like how they robbed the card game,other things said to look like they grew up close in age etc throughout the show but made different with Tony in high school and Sil a made guy already in the movie.
At first glance of the series , it seems like Tony was the same age as Sylvio but a few scenes in the show makes it seem like Sylvio is closer to Paulie's age. Like when Sylvio says I've known you since you were a kid....but if they came up....he would say I've known you since WE were kids. Or when Paulie says he goes back to johnny before YOU even. Like he was only about five years ahead. But Sylvio still goes back quite a ways. It kinda makes sense everyone in Tony's crew is probably ten years older. Other than bobby and Jackie.
Yes but David Lynch is a genius and Fire Walk With Me was part prequel part sequel like Better Call Saul. Both of those are how to do a prequel. I loved Sopranos but Many Saints was not good.
Sil is 10 years older. He’s been rolling with Dickie for years in Many Saints. Dickie gets whacked. Sil brings Tony, a high schooler in a as an associate, helping move things, run numbers, moving up to more over years. Tony was friends with Jackie Aprile and was family, he would have moved up. Ralphie, puss, and others were part of Tony’s little crew. It adds up Richie, Christopher, and Ralph both took those younger guys in, wanting Jackie jrs jackass friends. Patsy and Carlo bring their kids in. Muscle and money
Except that doesn't make sense considering Tony and Silvio's friendship in the series where they see each other as equals (Tony just first among equals.) Which is not how older characters treat Tony in the series. Whether it is respectful or not they all recognize the hierarchy of age.
I think Sil was what you would call a "tweener" He was too young to be anything more than a soldier, and too old to be with Tony and his boys. But, Sil being the smart man he was decided to befriend those younger guys knowing they would be the next up and comers on the mafia scene. Also, he probably figured it would look good to take them under his wing so to speak in the eyes of Johnny and Junior
Fair enough. I actually enjoyed the later seasons of GOT, and I personally thought D&D got a lot of unjust heat for show creators. I do genuinely believe Martin is the one who bottled it in the sense D&D ran out of source material and were put into a very difficult situation.
Early 20's, maybe 24-25 max. I imagined that Silvio could've been the go-between when it came to Tony and the Mob similar to how Chris was for guys like Jackie Jr.
Great video keep the soprano vids comming.. I never understood in the sopranos when things were heavy with New york why didnt sil have his strap on him? Insead he had a dinky little pistol in a briefcase lol
MANY SAINTS OF NEWARK IS NOT A SOPRANOS MOVIE. It is a separate story about DICKIE MOLTISANTI that takes place in what the SOPRANOS HBO Show referred to as a bygone era - nothing in Sopranos was “as it used to be” in Many Saints of Newark. Anyone complaining about this does not understand the dynamic of the two pieces and why they exist separately. Almost all of THE SOPRANOS is about how things “aren’t the same as they used to be,” referring to their lives in the Mafia in the 60s-80s compared to the 90s and 2000s. Obviously this would be reflected in the tone, humor, aesthetic, language - everything WOULD feel different, which is why the older characters in the Sopranos are so out of touch with reality. Come on, y’all. If you were looking for SOPRANOS PART ZERO, you were in for disappointment before the opening credits rolled.
what you said is a whole lot of nothing, the movie was just too short for the amount of storylines they had and idk i feel like dickie couldve been a better character, also i feel like they didn’t do anything shocking or different it didn’t have the same kind of artsyness the series had if that makes sense
@@Zay_WVTTZ I wouldn't call it a "whole lot of nothing" if it warranted a pretty decent two paragraph response from you. I agree with most of what you said, and it doesn't change my original statement. People were expecting a Sopranos prequel because of the Marketing behind the movie, but that's clearly not what David Chase set out to do. Not every episode focused on a Soprano or DiMeo crime family member. What made Sopranos so rich was the world of which it was built. Why make a new random mobster to tell this story you want to tell if you already have characters within that world at your disposal?
In the very first episode of the Sopranos, Tony mentions how he came in at the end and how all the good things have gone and passed. Jr and Johnny had their people, pride and freedom. All Tony has is his big house, money and federal charges just around the corner.
I was screaming this when I saw the film. When Ralphie was telling Jackie Jr. about their crew when they were young puts Silvio’s age closer to Tony’s and they had Paulie looking younger than Silvio 🤦🏾♂️ Plus Paulie told Silvio in the Sopranos that he goes back in the family further than him. Silvio’s character should’ve been left out at least.
If your a hard core fan it makes sense. Silvio was older then Tony in those days though Silvio was still a young guy coming up at the time. Wich is why in the very first episode Silvio didn't even know who Artie Bucco was. Tony grew up in a younger generation then Silvio and knew artie bucco from high school. It was revealed in the series that Silvio was actually suppose to be the Boss but it got passed down to Tony.
I think people are missing a key point in this. Sil tells , Tony.” I’ve known you since you were a kid”. I could see how that would indicate to some people that Tony and Sil grew up together. I always thought cell was a few years older than Tony, I think, with the mini Saints did, was shows, still watching Tony, grow up and Sil being made a few years earlier, Tony is automatically going to have respect for him. That is just my opinion, I could be wrong.
Well, there's a lot more inconsistencies in TMSON. One example is that we see on a grave stone at least once i the series that Tony's father's name is "John Francis Soprano", but in the movie his name is "Giovanni Soprano." It is of course possible that he anglicized his name later in life, but in TMSON he was in his late forties and called Giovanni.
That’s another thing. The timeline is fucked up. Chris’ grave says he was born in 1969 but given young Tony’s age in the film when it first starts, even if he’s 15 at the youngest when Chris is born it makes it no earlier than 1971-72
Thank you. Beautifully put. The one thing that ruined the movie for no necessary reason. It should have been a series spread out and Silvio should had only come at the end.
I also didn't like how they made Sil bald in the movie. Obviously Steven Van Zandt is bald in real life but they never implied Silvio was bald in the show. Even when he was comatose in the hospital, we still saw him with his hair.
Not everything was consistent in the series. Vito and Phil weren't cousins until season 6. In season 5, it's clear they are not related. Phil shows up at the job site with his brother Billy and asks Vito if he knows his brother Billy. Doesn't make sense if they were cousins.
@@craigcavaliere6744 the writing on the show is all over the place Vito and Adriana are supposed to be cousins too sense Richie is their uncle but there’s a scene of Vito saying he was close banging her when Chris was in rehab same with Jackie Jr when he’s checking her out In the restaurant with Ralph but she’s also supposed to be his cousin . Sometimes I think the writer forget things they wrote lol
@@dg6099 Very true. Happens on all shows. The cousin thing is plausible since Little Carmine and Lorraine Caluzzo were cousins, and Johnny Sack said he was banging her.
Syl is perpetually 39 years old... He was born looking exactly the same. And Tony always loved to dream, didnt he? Yes, yes, right between the sound machine!
I've always seen Sil as the Queen of the board, so to speak. Insanely strong and capable, even taking down Jimmy Altieri when they confirmed he flipped, among other arrangements of course. His down fall after that shoot out was a dead sign Tony was about to get whacked. In the movie I thought Sil is on his way to see Tony as Mafia material. Even arguing with his uncle about the matter. IMO, Tony's uncle death solidifies that view, thus making Sil become a mentor figure to Tony, who has none. Johnny boy wouldn't accept his son as a mobster, neither will come to see him as one, just like Tony will do with AJ. I think this movie will need a sequence to tie up things better. The movie's inclination was to tell the story about how Tony fell into the Mafia despite his relatives shunning him off as a kid. Uncle Jun, Richie, Feech, and the other old timers.
I always looked at it like Sil was his mentor when Tony was young. Like the older brother hanging out with his kid brother and his little pals. I never looked at Sil like he was close in age with Tony.
How about this: Once Dickie was murdered, Tony decided to be like him. He, Jackie and Ralph and possibly Tony B, were their own crew. Silvio was Tony and crew's window into the family, as i'm sure Johnny would not approve. When Ralph includes Silvio in his convo with Jr and friends he could mean that Silvio was in their crew in the sense that he provided them with the scores. He always saw something in Tony, and became Tony's new Dickie. Silvio was at the card games Feech ran, and probably tipped Tony off on all the games. They talk about when they were kids, but i call people in their 20s and even 30s kids depending on my mood. Richie Aprile said Chris was a good kid. Anyway, if you look at it from that perspective it does make possible time line holes less deep. That said, Paulie looks like he should have been ten years older than Silvio. That aspect of Many Saints was a bit off kilter. Great video!
I honestly didn't think it was that weird. I always assumed they were tight not only cause they knew eachother since forever but because Sil was just old enough for T to respect him as a knowledgeable guy but also not so old that he feels he's too old and outta touch. I always figured they were 5-10 years apart, or close to halfway between T and Pauly. In the streets it's not at all crazy to see a wild range of ages together. It would probably have been a year to a couple years after the movie in Tony's late teens or early 20s that he really hopped off the porch and Sil easily coulda been one of the main figures helping him with it making Ralph's story fit fine. They don't give us an age in MSON so he could have been anywhere within that range and could have just come up since forever with Dickie and Johnny. Without actually knowing his age we can't say anything got messes up lol
It's also Chris's soul from hell telling the story from Tony's and Dickie's point of view. So it doesn't have to be factual. Pie o Mie talks in the orginal series.
Everybody saying “it’s obvious Sil was older in the series” yes, a couple of years. Not fucking 20. You’re telling me Sil is supposed to be late 50s in the show?
I also very much enjoyed the movie I have no problem pointing out its issues either. It should have been a series or it should have been understood that they were doing a series that will follow the movie. There isn't enough time to flesh out what I feel is the weakest part of the film is the Dickie-Harold rivalry. There's too much other stuff to focus on and not enough time to flesh it out properly. We should get a following series and let's see how it goes. Silvio's age is still kind of true to the series like telling Tony he's known him since he was a kid but when Ralph mentions him being a part of their own little crew it's odd to think that Sil would go from a loyal soldier to someone like Dickie to go back down and be an elder to a crew of up and comers. It does cause issues that I wish it didn't. Sil is 1 of my favorite characters ever. On a positive note I'd like to express how well young Silvio was done. I understand why many don't appreciate an acting performance of an established character being a complete impersonation but Sil was always a very overstated character so to speak. The Pacino impersonations and more I think the only way to play the role is to ape Steven . Shame about the Timeline but we did get a worthy young Silvio at least. The cheese seen and his defence of Michael Myers from the original Halloween being likened to Freddy and Jason always kills me thank you👌😅 Sil should have had more input on Cleaver.
Maybe Silvio will narrative from the grave in the late 70s , early 80s version of the sequel, which I'd imagine will be more dramatic involving Janice moving to CA , Tony's relationship with his mom made him snap into a bonified killer .
Silvio is Tony’s much needed only positive influence, I think Bobby Bacala could’ve been a good influence on Tony as well if Tony allowed but Tony was to worried about proving how boss he is
They really should have emphasized something about, how close Johnny and Sil were, and that Johnny was a father figure to Sil, which would also add further legitimacy to his relationship with Tony, he see’s himself as a big brother, a surrogate family, that sort of thing.
You wanna find somthing out?, find out what happened to Sil's hair. On the show, they go way out of the way to make us think his hair was real and then, madone!, hes bald and then hes wearing this crazy piece.
@ 0:20 into the video Silvio Dante says "I've known you since YOU were a kid, Tone." Silvio didn't say I've known you since WE were kids. In my opinion this suggests that Silvio Dante was a bit older than Tony Soprano because Silvio didn't say I've known you since WE were kids Tone.
It's more of a story being told by a dead man. Makes sense if you think about it. That they changed a few things around cause no one really knows what the story is about. That's why they kept a few things we heard about with Tony seeing his dad get arrested at the fair and John shooting the bee hive hair.
I think it was just Sil's personality to be loyal. Also, if he were to betray Tony and the Jersey crew, It would of likely just put him in "king of the ashes" situation. I think it is more fitting to show that Sil already a decade of experience on Tony, it gives more validity on the claim that he was approached for Boss before Tony.
