Simplified INAV for fixed wing

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How to configure a stripped back implementation of fixed wing INAV with just the basic modes and features. The aim is to have a less complicated INAV setup on a model that flies well straight away, then the fancy auto modes can be added later.
Chapters
0:00 Intro
1:12 Throws and Trim
3:49 Radio setup
5:52 INAV Configuration
6:43 Mixer
8:19 Outputs
8:45 Ports
9:17 Configuration Page
10:26 Failsafe
10:37 PID Tuning
11:15 Rates and Expo
12:12 Fixed Wing Level Trim
12:44 Advanced Tuning
13:21 Receiver Setup
13:41 Modes
14:31 GPS Setup
15:20 OSD
15:58 CLI
16:29 FCB Receiver Connection
18:27 GPS Connection
19:09 FPV Connection
19:59 Direction of Throws
20:44 Stabilisation Direction
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@dronepilot260rc 5 месяцев назад

This is how I run INAV very basic as I fly most aircraft without a flight controller, more enjoyable in my opinion to tinker around and get the plane flying perfectly without any assistance 🎉

@robertgoldbornatyout 4 месяца назад

Great video Andrew. Thanks for sharing. Hope your weekend was great, our weather is finally warming up to be nicer flying weather. Have a great week.👍👍👍💯💯💯

@craycle 6 месяцев назад

Thanks for this nice video! I just was about the fly our Discover Model Plane with a new FC, so you made a checklist for me. This is a perfect guide for beginners with the servo arm details!

@AndrewNewton 6 месяцев назад

Many thanks Cemal. Looking forward to checking out the Orca

@aGGreSSiv 6 месяцев назад

A much-needed video with all the essential settings quickly.

@AndrewNewton 6 месяцев назад

Thanks

@ianhanrahan7985 6 месяцев назад

Hi Andrew. This is an awesome tutorial for first time set-up, I've been trying to get my speedy bee wing405 working for months and it turns out it was just my controller Imputs. I just followed your instructions and bang it's all good to go just like that. Thank you for making this video, I'd be lost without it. I've watched so many others, and I just got lost and gave up. So this was a blessing. Thank you so much. Merry Christmas, and I hope you have a great new year. Your a bloody legend 👍 👍

@AndrewNewton 6 месяцев назад

Thanks Ian, your feedback makes me very happy. Just what I was aiming for. Best of luck INAVing

@richardo212 4 месяца назад

Thank you for making this excellent video which has really clarified the correct radio setup and how to set up iNAV for a fixed wing plane. Just brilliant.

@AndrewNewton 4 месяца назад

Thanks, there is probably too much information out there sometimes.

@brunokempter5186 6 месяцев назад

Du machst immer hervorragende Vorstellungen!! Herzlichen Dank! Dir und Deiner Fam. Alles Liebeund Gute!

@AndrewNewton 6 месяцев назад

Many thanks and stay safe and healthy

@AerialWaviator 6 месяцев назад

Great easy to follow setup procedure. The timeline chapters also serve as a nice checklist; for first flight, or beginning of new season. BTW: nice portable wing aid (20:15).

@AndrewNewton 6 месяцев назад

I could improve the V shapes but it works well

@user-bf1ir1uo5w 6 месяцев назад

I have watch a lot of videos and started my first build and could not for the life of me get the plane to arm. Following this video step by step it did everything it supposed to and worked first time around. Thanks for a great basic setup tutorial

@AndrewNewton 6 месяцев назад

Thanks for the feedback. Great hear it worked

@Bigtbuilder Месяц назад

Nice and calm presentation.

@AndrewNewton Месяц назад

Thank you kindly!

@PrzemyslawGalazka Месяц назад

thank you for making this guide

@AndrewNewton Месяц назад

Thanks for the donation. Hope your INAV build is successful

@FPV420. 6 месяцев назад

Merry Christmas, Andrew! Warm wishes from Bulgaria.

@AndrewNewton 6 месяцев назад

Same from Australia, have a great day

@southspearmedia 6 месяцев назад

Brilliant Andrew, really helpful having been away from fixed wing for a little while. Much appreciated and I hope you've had a great festive and all set for the New Year!

@AndrewNewton 6 месяцев назад

Hey Nick. I was just showing my Mum and sister some of your stunning videos last night. They were very impressed. Glad the video helped, and have a great New Year.

@southspearmedia 6 месяцев назад

@@AndrewNewton Very kind words sir, thank you! Just putting together some random clips from this year, standby.

@jac_pilot_theam_VH 6 месяцев назад

Greetings, have a great day, happy holidays and thank you for everything.

@AndrewNewton 6 месяцев назад

Thanks and same to you

@BrainDeadEngineering 6 месяцев назад

HUGE ! I needed this two month ago ! but some how my first INAV flight survived but I don't know how ! I just prayed and clicked things for weeks on end lol ! Merry Christmas and happy New Year. Peace on Earth 2024 ! 🙏

@AndrewNewton 6 месяцев назад

Merry Christmas and happy New Year to you too. Happy INAVing

@gliderkiteflier 6 месяцев назад

Well done! Excellent info.

@veltro7utube Месяц назад

Andrew, outstanding video, you made understanding Inav so simple! Lots of useful information! Thank You!

@AndrewNewton Месяц назад

Mission accomplished! Thanks

@hspeed3656 5 месяцев назад

Great Video Andrew, Happy New Years and all the best in 2024. Thanks for all you do for our hobby

@AndrewNewton 5 месяцев назад

Happy new year!

@shaleemp 2 месяца назад

Thank you for making this soooooo simple!

@AndrewNewton 2 месяца назад

You're so welcome!

@daxdadog 6 месяцев назад

Thank you Andrew! I think I'm ready to try my 1st INAV setup.

@AndrewNewton 6 месяцев назад

You can do it!

@fsbollox 6 месяцев назад

Hi if I use beta fight on a fixed wing what is this transition like to change to use I nav

@AndrewNewton 6 месяцев назад

You will have to tell me. I have never used BF

@fsbollox 6 месяцев назад

@@AndrewNewton betaflight is the source code that was forked on GitHub the made inav then inav it's focus has been GPS and sensor prioritised over the smooth responsiveness and control of the quad minimal latency and GPS has been gradually made to work with betaflight as an after thought but now I truly believe we have got to the point where both beta flight and inav should be forked back together again with a massive desire and it would be the most amazing configurator and firmware open source has ever but we would have to all be focussed on it by not allowing world events to get into the development discussions it would have to be a no troll zero tolerance to any agenda other than excellence of the source code

@stepheny6321 6 месяцев назад

Thank you Andrew for this video. I like the ZOHD Kopilot system but you can't buy it anymore. Looks like i need to go to the INAV system

@MarkJones-100 4 месяца назад

Thank you

@AndrewNewton 4 месяца назад

You're welcome

@Berty_M 3 месяца назад

You are a GOD with this video!! Thank you Andrew, greetings from EU Romania! Instantant SUBSCRIBE!

@AndrewNewton 3 месяца назад

Thanks, I knew it needed to be made

@GrandadIsAnOldMan 6 месяцев назад

Merry Christmas, Andrew ⛄⛄🎅🎅❄❄🎄🎄

@AndrewNewton 6 месяцев назад

Same to you!

@sladelefty 6 месяцев назад

Thank you excellent information.

@AndrewNewton 6 месяцев назад

Glad it was helpful!

@user-otzlixr 6 месяцев назад

Excellent subject…

@AndrewNewton 6 месяцев назад

Thank you!

@d.jensen5153 5 месяцев назад

I really love this series - IMHO it couldn't be more perfectly targeted. Before the Seriously Dodo flight controller was discontinued, I purchased a few of them directly from RMRC. The Dodo has since been dropped by INAV, presumably because of its small FLASH size. But the extra features that require the extra FLASH aren't relevant to my simple requirements. So I'm trying to find an old version of INAV I can use with the Dodo. Your tutorial is extremely helpful in making this effort work. Perhaps I should just buy a new FC, but it galls me not to get use out of the perfectly good ones I already have. ;)

@AndrewNewton 5 месяцев назад

Thanks. Try INAV 1.7.3

@atw98 6 месяцев назад

I still remember when Andrew used to say, many years ago, no need for a fight control board....😂....... Now he's the Aussie king of all things Inav. Now we need to watch him muddle through Ardupilot. I did try to get them to do a simplified interface, but it's hard to make guys with such a tech background understand why us mortals needed a simple introduction to it. So I just stuck to the graphic art for them.

@AndrewNewton 6 месяцев назад

Ah yes, long time ago. Don't feel safe without INAV on my FPV rigs now. I can use Ardupilot now, after lots of study. Well done on the graphics!

@joelxavierbrasil5107 6 месяцев назад

Feliz Natal meu amigo Andrew , Deus abençoe sempre!eu tenho aprendido muito com você o aeromodelismo, estou evoluindo a cada dia, comprei um rádio MasterTX16S muito bom esse rádio!

@AndrewNewton 6 месяцев назад

Nice radio, and Happy Christmas to you

@EnglishTurbines 6 месяцев назад

Great video for the noobs Andrew....I like how you deleted the Inputs and created the model directly using the Mixers. I'm going to try that....Less is more...for sure. Why do we even need Inputs???....🤔🤔🤔😮😏🇬🇧

@AndrewNewton 6 месяцев назад

Thanks ET. Supposed to reduce mixer lines when using expo and rates, but I can get by without Inputs

@EnglishTurbines 6 месяцев назад

@@AndrewNewton Oh, that's interesting. Well I never use rates or expo on a Flight Controller with plane or quad....If I'm flying an ordinary plane LOS, then I only use Expo, never rates as well. That's why Expo was invented, no buggering about with rate switches..!!!!....🤔😳😏😀🇬🇧

@chopperharly 6 месяцев назад

nice one Andrew first time ive seen a video to make me feel confidant enough to actually set one up many thanks. P.s. your elevator goes up when tail goes up not sure about that one ??

@AndrewNewton 6 месяцев назад

That's what I want to hear. Good luck and let me know how you go.

@daxdadog 6 месяцев назад

Thanks!

@AndrewNewton 6 месяцев назад

Thanks mate

@TacticalLulu 4 месяца назад

Hey Andrew, always love the videos 💪 I was trying to follow this for my Phoenix 759-2, ELRS, inav and f411-wte but having trouble with the flaps. Any tips or could you make a video?

@AndrewNewton 4 месяца назад

I have done 3 INAV flaps videos

@altermannfliegt3927 6 месяцев назад

Merry Christmas to you and your family🎄 (...or Merry Christmasday? I don't know the right term for Australia)😅

@AndrewNewton 6 месяцев назад

Merry Christmas to you too. (That's correct)

@mhk1058 2 месяца назад

This is great Andrew, thanks. One thing confusing me coming from using gyros such as Hobbyeagles, is there a gain control for stabilisation or is it just on or off?

@AndrewNewton 2 месяца назад

The PID tuning screen would be similar to your gyro gain pots. But the stock PIDs are usually fine as they are. In the Modes section you can choose all the different stabilisation modes.

@marksherman630 5 месяцев назад

Great info, as usual. Wondering if the admonition against using the radio model for rates and expo is a general best practice for fixed wing or specific only to INAV? I set my 1st plane up with dual rates and expo on the model inputs (as I had done on my quads). It's a DSMX AS3X Rx, and I use a Radiomaster TX16S with a 4 in 1 internal module for DSMX. I see guys using Spectrum radios and "Forward Pgming" to set rates, etc., but I don't know if that is changing params in the radio model, the TX or the Rx? And I see the T16S has some forward pgming LUA's but have never tried to use. Appreciate any advice. Thx, and hope you are having better weather than we are in Seattle!

@AndrewNewton 5 месяцев назад

Greetings. The weather is beautiful here in southern Australia at the moment. I was only referring to INAV and flight control boards. Rates and expo in the transmitter are fine for normal model flying with no flight control board. Forward programming is a Spectrum specific feature for setting up receivers from the radio (I think) Not sure about rates and expo with stabilised receivers. Maybe this will help ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-Wq2OpoMILYw.html

@marksherman630 5 месяцев назад

@@AndrewNewton Thank you very much for your reply. I was hoping I wouldn't have to learn any more ecosystems like DSMX, even more so after I watched the video. So now I can proceed with gettting my Swordfish (INAV) and Bigfoot (Vector) ready to fly when the weather improves (in a few months!).

@PistiBala 4 месяца назад

Very good video thx! Only one thing I am not sure about is at 18:00 you said reverse the channels in the radio. I think it is not good, because if you reverse them, how to use stick commands? Thx!

@AndrewNewton 4 месяца назад

Only if the radio outputs move the wrong way (looking at the INAV receiver page graphs). Stick commands would not work if the outputs were going the wrong way.

@stevietee10 6 месяцев назад

HI Andrew, Is there a reason why, in configurator mixer, you did not select "airplane without rudder" for the X-Bird ? Happy New Year to you and your good lady 🙂

@AndrewNewton 6 месяцев назад

Thanks Steve. No reason, don't know if there is any difference if you don't have a rudder.

@VladKuzba 6 месяцев назад

Thanks for the instructions. I'm setting up my first FB, the SpeedyBee F405 Wing, my receiver is FrSky X8 and my radio is Radiomaster TX16S. The switches I assigned work well as well as the GPS. But with no inputs in my radio, there is no movement of ailerons, elevator, throttle and rudder. If I add the inputs in my radio, the controls work. How can your controls work without inputs?

@AndrewNewton 6 месяцев назад

What did you choose as the Sources in the mixer page?

@VladKuzba 6 месяцев назад

@@AndrewNewton Oh, yes. Now I get it 🙂. Thanks for the hint!

@AndrewNewton 6 месяцев назад

Clever man Vlad. You should be OK now

@MarkJones-100 4 месяца назад

Hi Andrew there is one thing I can’t seem to find with fixed wing set up. I can’t get my servo horns fitted very close to 90 degrees, is it done in inav somewhere? Thanks

@AndrewNewton 4 месяца назад

Centre your servos then mount the arms as close to 90 as the spline teeth will allow. Doesn't have to be perfect. Then adjust the pushrod lengths to level the control surfaces. You can adjust the servo mid points in the Outputs page but INAV will take care of it if you're in the ballpark.

@lasersbee 6 месяцев назад

Happy Holidays to you and yours Andrew....😊

@AndrewNewton 6 месяцев назад

Happy holidays!

@BigbadlyLickedbear Месяц назад

Hello Andrew, I learned a lot from this video. Can you tell me what is the difference between acro mode and manual mode? Also can you tell me the difference between horizon mode and angle mode? Sincerely

@AndrewNewton Месяц назад

Thanks, modes explained inavfixedwinggroup.com/guides/getting-started/inav-modes-guide/

@BigbadlyLickedbear Месяц назад

@@AndrewNewton This is exactly what I needed. By any chance would you have the same thing for the radiomaster boxer? Thank you very much Andrew

@rahadyanmuhammad271 5 месяцев назад

Hi I have a question My INAV has already responded to the Remote movement but the Servo hasn't I plug the servo wire to the S3 port in my Speedybee F405wing Currently, I only use USB to power the board and the servo Is that the problem for this issue? My remote setting (mixes) is already the same with you I am still waiting for my Battery connector to arrive before can power up the FC and Servo using Battery Thank you so much for your help

@AndrewNewton 5 месяцев назад

USB only powers the 4V5 pins

@buzbenson6854 3 месяца назад

Andrew, This video has been a great help. I currently have everything working with the exception of Arming. The motor passed the manual on screen testing. When I Arm I get an error message on my OSD. It says "roll pitch center". From some research I think it refers to centering of the roll and pitch, however I do not know where or how to adjust this. Any input on this issue would be much appreciated. I am using a Speedybee F405 Wing FC and the same version of INAV you used in the video. Thank You Buz

@AndrewNewton 3 месяца назад

In the receiver page you may have the wrong Channel Map. TAER instead of AETR. Or you may have mixing or channel assigned wrongly in your radio. Which radio and receiver are you using?

@buzbenson6854 3 месяца назад

I checked again this morning and the left aileron is in channel 3 on the FC, and right aileron is in channel4 on the flight controller. The channel order is AETR as you suggested. I'm using a Tarranis Qx7s and a FrSky XM+ sbus receiver. The error message on the OSD is Roll Pitch not Centered. Does INAV have a list of error messages with definitions?@@AndrewNewton

@AndrewNewton 3 месяца назад

Receiver page should look like this pic www.youtube.com/@AndrewNewton/community. Do you have elevon mixing in your radio or is it on Mode 1?

@buzbenson6854 3 месяца назад

I finally think I know what is going on. It seems my SF switch is overriding my aileron channel causing it to go low when in the disarmed mode. I think I will start over in the morning and set it up from scratch. Thanks for your help.

@buzbenson6854 3 месяца назад

I got it! The throttle cut switch was messing with my roll angle prior to arming. So I changed some things around in the channel mapping and all seems to work now. I knew it was something I had done. Good news is I learned a lot along the way. Thanks again for all the help.

@rctom1 6 месяцев назад

Hi,I´m new to inav, from BF i´ve learned to set the rx outputs exactly from 1000 to 2000 via cli rxrange command. Your´s going from 988 to 2011. So is there no need in inav to do like this? And why you setup MSP= on in uart 1? Thanks in advance.

@AndrewNewton 6 месяцев назад

Best practice is to adjust channel limits in the radio so they go from 1000 to 2000 but it doesn't seem to be essential. MSP on UART1 is preset, but you only need it if you damage the USB socket.

@rctom1 6 месяцев назад

@@AndrewNewton , thanks alot.

@RenatoSchiavetti 5 месяцев назад

Hello Andrew! Excellent video, I would like to answer a question if possible. I'm almost ready to make the first flight using INAV on an airplane, I only did tests with the airplane on the ground and stopped. I noticed that when I'm in manual mode, the control surfaces, elevator, ailerons and rudder, move as much as possible, but when I switch to ACRO, the surfaces move very little, even with the sticks at 100%. Does this happen because I'm at zero speed? Or is something wrong? Thank you very much in advance!

@AndrewNewton 5 месяцев назад

That is normal. Manual gives maximum throws while all other modes have less throw to allow extra movement for stabilisation. If you are concerned the movement is not enough you can increase he FF for roll and pitch in the PID tuning page.

@RenatoSchiavetti 5 месяцев назад

@@AndrewNewton Hello, thank you very much for the answer! I've already increased the FF values to get more command. I needed to do this because I'm going to take off the plane from the runway and when we start accelerating, the plane may deviate from the center of the runway to the left or right, that's when I'll need a lot of rudder control to bring it back to the center. I was worried that the FF close to maximum would be a setting that could interfere with the pid tuning, but from what I understand the FF shows the INAV what is the maximum command that the plane can have in stabilized flight, is that correct? Thanks again for the support!

@AndrewNewton 5 месяцев назад

Roll Rate, Pitch Rate and Yaw Rate, in degrees per second, set the maximum rotation rates. FF sets how much stick movement is passed through to the servos. Set FF so you get about 80% of the full manual throws when in ACRO mode.

@RenatoSchiavetti 5 месяцев назад

@@AndrewNewton Hello! It was exactly what to do! After answering the questions with you here, I reread the documents on GitHub and managed to understand better! Thank you very much!

@RenatoSchiavetti 5 месяцев назад

@@AndrewNewton I would like to answer just one more question if possible, I promise it is the last one! Before taking the first flight I am doing all the tests possible to avoid making mistakes on the big day. And one of these tests is to select autonomous flight modes with the plane stopped (zero speed) to see what happens. I noticed that when the plane is disarmed, no key works, not even the failsafe if i remove the receiver, but when the plane is armed, even at zero speed, when I activate the Return to Home key, the plane does nothing, perhaps because I configured it to ignore RTH if the plane is not 30 meters away, but when I activate Loiter (Position Hold) or Cruise mode the plane starts the engine. The same happens if I remove the receiver to test Failsafe. As the plane is stopped, I wanted to know if is this a normal behavior or if there is any way to tell the inav not to do anything if these switches are activated or if i losst signal (with the plane stoped) Thank you again!

@Apollo_Music 3 месяца назад

I've been messing with mine for a week and I've gone through all this step by step. The sticks are moving in both the radio and iNav but no control surfaces or motor movement when I'm finished and connect the flight battery. The receiver is just beeping. I'm using an eflite avian esc, and it has an extra yellow wire, I'm thinking that might be my problem?

@AndrewNewton 3 месяца назад

Could be the esc is too "smart" Try just connecting the ground and signal wires. Possibly need to calibrate the esc using INAV configurator.

@Apollo_Music 3 месяца назад

Thanks Andrew I'm giving that a go 👍

@9407zeek 5 месяцев назад

Really nice video! But I'm having some issues... 1st I config the radio as you did but when I move the elevator the ailerons move and when I move the ailerons the elevator moves... what can I do?

@AndrewNewton 5 месяцев назад

Probably plugged them in to the wrong pins. Which board and which plane?

@9407zeek 5 месяцев назад

I'm using the speedybee f405 wing and I'm setting up the CK840mm wing, I swapped servos to see if was that but nothing...

@9407zeek 5 месяцев назад

@@AndrewNewton I think I just solved it, by default Inav wing it's: Servo 1: stab roll 50% Servo 1: stab pitch 50% Servo 2 : stab roll -50% Servo 2: stab pitch 50% I just swap these two and voilà... have to check if surfaces moves as it should on the different modes but now the sticks works as it should... what do you think?

@AndrewNewton 5 месяцев назад

Yes well done. Just have to play with the +50 and -50 weights until they move the right way.

@9407zeek 5 месяцев назад

@@AndrewNewton thanks, you are the best!! Keep going like that 😎

@ghsfdl4350 6 месяцев назад

INAV 7.0 is out as of December 2023. some changes from this version.

@AndrewNewton 6 месяцев назад

7 has VTOL, but I'll wait a while before switching

@flat-earther 3 месяца назад

what about airspeed sensor, does it have benefit in INAV

@AndrewNewton 3 месяца назад

Only for seeing the Airspeed in the OSD

@chrisnoren777 3 месяца назад

Your channel map doesn't need to be (ATER) because all mine are (TAER) and it works perfectly.

@AndrewNewton 3 месяца назад

Of course, there are many thing that can be different to my simple setup

@rahadyanmuhammad271 6 месяцев назад

Hi, in Speedybee F405 Wing there is JST socket for GPS. Then, in what UART the GPS will be if I connect in that socket?

@aGGreSSiv 6 месяцев назад

If there is a solder pad on the GPS, you can refer to the accompanying diagram for the F405 GPS output to make the appropriate connections. Connect 5V, GND, TX, Rx, and if available on the GPS, PPS. Andrew has a detailed video explaining the F405 flight control board; you can check that for reference.

@user-bf1ir1uo5w 6 месяцев назад

For the speedybee f405 wing mine is uart3, I did have to redo some of the cables since the gps pin layout does not match the port layout on the FC

@rahadyanmuhammad271 6 месяцев назад

@@user-bf1ir1uo5w Hi What cable that has differrent lay out?my GPS is Walksnail M181

@user-bf1ir1uo5w 6 месяцев назад

I used a matek gps and 5v and ground was next to each other and the speedybee pin out it is not. Just verify that its the same on both otherwise you will have to swap,i am not familiar with the one you are using.@rahadyanmuhammad271

@scottyh72 6 месяцев назад

The stock PID's are garbage. Zero to 2 on P. 25 to 30 on I. FF is usually around 20, keep it to where your manual mode deflection is. Both axis. It will fly out of your hand in Acro mode, and will handle wind much better. It will also hold attitude and trim will not change throughout the speed range. The idea that acro mode is just manual with some P term, which a certain dev believes, is silly. Make it a true rate mode so you can use it.

@AndrewNewton 6 месяцев назад

Thanks, worth testing your suggestions but not in this series.