@@ArxangelRC when I was flying quads I used to just throw a shirt on top of it if I wanted to quickly do something on the bench without taking the props off 👌
That is a function of the firmware, right? Or is there a hardware dependency? I know there is some drama about using CRSF with Ardu... but don't really know the details as I don't have Crossfire.
hi. thanks I have done it. but know I am facing an other problem. I have 6 channel CT6B transmitter. and software shows the channel 8 for changing the flight modes. so I want to change it in channel 5 or 6. plz help about change it. I already change it in full param and trees param. but it came again 8. so how to save it?
Thank you for the detailed video. I have been interested in ArduPlane but could not find a step/step video. The tips on why you do things a certain way will help much. Hopefully this winter I will get it setup on my NanoTalon. Also a new subscriber Thanks roger
Great video thanks, this is my first build and trying to follow you step by step. I flashed my f405-wing with inav and connect to mission planner did first calibrations as you did, I'm now trying to connect runcam micro swift 3 and tx200u video transmitter to board runcam has no direction for me on f405-wing. Can you help?
Thank you for your detailed explanation. You have made the process simple and logical. Is the T2 pin still used for telemetry back to a Taranis? I use the audio function to give me voltage altitude etc.
Yes, I think the T2 can still be used for that, but you will need to adjust that parameter in the pull parameter list, because by default it is set to Mavlink!
Neat, informative, pleasant to watch and wonderful as always... I would recommend to use a wifi to uart. I have just bought 5 of them and they work pretty nice with both Matek F405 and pixhawk.
Thank you! :) I have seen these modules, but since I am now trying to get the telemetry working over the DragonLink system... still think I might do without them, although they would be useful during setup, as they do remove 1 additional component on the laptop side! :)
everithing fails from the first step, drivers are not working, fail to connect, fail to load the drivers, fail to initiate bootloader....Betaflight sucks.
@@ArxangelRC we tried with three different pc computers with different window versions, different cables and boards, two matek´s f405 wing and one normal drone board... a friend came home and tried following step by step the instalation of all the drivers including Zadig, STM, CP210 etc.... and nothing at all. No connection. My main computer has issues with usb 3.0 and matek. It detects matek F405SE board connected to USB but can not open the port. We tried to fix com ports with ImpulseRC Driver Fixer and nothing. The other two computers are not connecting either and failing to open bootloader, no matter the selected options, as we tried all. Betaflight is a Failure on PC, after two days wasted we tried with a MAC and surprise.... worked at the first attept.
@@JJVoltio Damn!!! Well I am glad you got it working in the end... but I am shocked why it would be such an issue with all these PCs you tried on! I had an issue only until I sorted out the drives using the Zadig software... since then it has been working flawlessly!
Brand new here to Ardu & the Matek F405 wing. This video made me feel much more comfortable in my attempt to add the 405 & Ardu to my Ritewing Mini Drak. (Cant wait to het her in the air) This system seems to get a lot of luv and videos like this are why. 🎯 Thanks for putting this together for folks like me that are new to the hobby. Great stuff & gained a " SUB!" 😎 Best Stashman-FPV
Well, there are a number of ready-to-fly options that you can buy from name brand companies which have beginner friendly stabilization systems in them, which will help you learn how to fly. Meanwhile you can learn about the more DIY options and increase your knowledge.
Hello! please help with the V Tail. in stabilization mode everything works well and in manual mode it deviates incorrectly, in the radio calibrate also does not work to fix this problem. Полетный контроллер Matek h743. MP version 1.3.74
If it works correctly in stabilization, and not from the radio, then you have to reverse some channel in the radio probably, to get it working! Usually that is how it works for me!
brother could you please tell me if matek f405 wing and f405 WTE have any difference? like should i order any and they work the same or do they have significant differnce
I flashed it and did everything but mission planner and betaflight arent recognizing it, however it does let me reflash it if i start it in dfu mode. What do I do???
Nice video, thanks for sharing it. This is also the very first video where I see someone showing how to calibrate the ESC once in the plane! I had not figured out how to calibrate it and now I know. I had had to calibrate my ESC outside the plane with a different receiver but will try your method now. Thanks!
Thank You very much for a very instructive Video. I’m planning to use the FC along with my DJI Ocysync AIR system which fortunately has an Sbus on the video link receiver and therefore enable to use my X10S express in Slave Mode with a cable connection to my DJI Google’s ( in other words both control and video signal via the Google’s). Can you tell me exactly from which pin the OSD signal from the Matek F405 goes ? The DJI Ocysync has an inputwire for that purpose so all the information can be displayed in the Goggles. My Best Regards Kim/DK
Hey, what kind of signal does that system expect? Mavlink, or video? Because the OSD is actually overlaid in the flight controller on the analogue video signal, and then it puts out a video signal complete with the OSD overlay. I don't think the DJI system would be able to use that. Alternatively, it may need some data stream with the needed information, which would be Mavlink, however I am not certain if DJI supports that protocol.
Glad you got the camera working! As for the motor... that sounds like a timing issue... the ESC is losing sync after the RPM gets that high! Change the timing settings on the ESC, if possible, or try a different ESC, and see if it improves the situation!
Hi Arxangel. Please neegd help from heaven!!! I am setting a Matek F405 for a minitalon. The issue is i cant arm the FC unless i unable the Arming _Required to 0. I did flash and setup orher Matek F405 for Dolphing, C1 chaser , Ritewing without any issue. I calibrate the ESC many times, change the ESC. Reflush Ardupilot 3 times starting for scratch all the setup in this video.Uncheck all the arming cheks. Read the ardupilot many times. Etc. Cant arm the FC using the ruder stick. Any suggestion? Thanks !!!
A reversed rudder channel perhaps? When you try to arm it while connected to the computer, what error message does it show up on the HUD as to why it wouldn't arm?
No prior experience with ArduPlane, I've finally decided to start using the F405 Wing bought 2 years ago. I'm wondering if the procedures remain the same after 3 years?
Awesome video! I learned a lot watching it. Can the 405 also be used by Adruplane for live-flight data using a laptop and change modes in flight using that long range telemetry? (using 433/915mHz)
@@faraazbaig2059 Telemetry module sets are being sold left and right, most of them even would come with compatible wiring. Just plug the air unit in the telemetry port on the controller, ground unit to the laptop, select the correct com and baud rate and click connect, should be easy as that!
All settings done!!!!! Now Wiring the gps??? How to know gps is working?? The data says no gps!!! The matek 405 wing official site wiring is not working for me
@@ArxangelRC - thanks for replying. It turned out to be a bad TBS Tracer receiver. Put in a ELRS and it worked fine. But now, when I use left eleven, the ailerons move, and when I move ailerons, the elevons move. How do I make changes (is this the reverse function under Servo_?
@@AllAroundTube50 What kind of plane is it? You have to move the channels around in the radio it seems. If I am understanding this correct, your ailerons move the elevator and vice versa?
I have a Matek Systems F405-Wing flight controller... When fail safe takes place the plane flaps get activated and come down. Any suggestions on how to disable flaps from activating during fail safe? Taranis radio, ardupilot firmware with mission planner
Run the signal for the flaps directly from your receiver... or change the options for those outputs in Mission Planner from "Flaps" to "Pasthru" whatever channel controls them on your radio!
Yes! In Mission Planner go to Full Parameter Tree, expand the AHRS sub-tree, and in there you will see AHRS_TRIM_Y and AHRS_TRIM_X. You need those values to adjust the autopilot's position relative to the plane, if its not perfectly aligned! To the right you will see an explanation of each parameter and what value does what!
@@ArxangelRC One more question , have you made a video how to set up different flight modes on Mission planner, mama right now all I have is manual mode stabilize mode and return to home , would like to add cruise , auto trim and auto tune
@@jimmytheriot8978 Hi, I have not done a video like that, mainly because I do not setup 2 mixed switches that actually allow for this, as I find it a bit too confusing, since I fly a different plane every other week, and this would be a nightmare! A rotary 6 pos switch also works, if you have it, otherwise you can search for such an instructional on youtube, I am sure somebody has done it!
Youve been my go to for ardupilot. Can you tell me where to connect the S-Port from R9 slim+? And will it let you use Yappa script? (spelling prob wrong)
To be honest... I am not sure, if I had to guess I would say that would be Tx2, since Rx2 is the SBUS in, Tx2 should be the Sport thing... but you also have to set it in the parameters I think! I have never tried this, so talking in theory right now!
Trying to setup ArduPlane for the first time after getting fairly handy with INAV. I disarmed the compass like you show and rebooted but I still get the message "bad compass health"
@ArxangelRC oh alright thank you so much. I am using a new product in the RC market, the SIYI products precisely the FT24 and their receiver and module, the FR20 and the FM30 respectively. They promise telemetry. Have you worked with them before?
Make sure main control channels (1-4) are setup properly - Ail, Ele, Thr, Rud, and if using on a plane setup a 3-pos switch to ch 8. This is about enough for most cases.
To make the auto takeoff site independent, just put an RTL command after takoff. Well that's irrelevant now, since there is a dedicated takoff flight mode which enables you to have both auto takeoff and later on a separate auto mission. Just my 5c.
Hello Sir, your video is great. I was just wondering if you can connect this controller to a ground station with a telemetry radio and control it with the ground station? Thankyou.
Yes, you should be able to do anything you can with a regular Pixhawk or a Cube, and as far as I know, control via the telemetry link is possible, though I've never really tried it myself.
Without connections? That would depend on the autopilot used... but sometimes when I power everything up... I would simply unplug the ESC power only, throttle up, plug it in (after you've made sure throttle is working of course), when it beeps throttle down... DONE!
Nice Tutorial, I gave up using Ardupilot when iNAV came along...That said, I can see why you like it given your terrain and type of missions you do....Did you film the flying recently?...our weather has shut us down, while you still appear to have calm sunny days..?
Yes, weather has been very good around here recently... has allowed me to get some flying done in very good conditions... but then one of the days I started the flight in dead calm... and ended it in 50+ km/h winds... where the plane was easily sitting in one place against the wind! I rarely do Auto missions... unless it is for those test hearts to see if everything is working as it should... but the terrain following capability it pretty awesome and the code has been super reliable for me over the years!
Does not need to be connected to a battery, and the DFU button is needed only during the initial flashing with ArduPilot in the iNav or Betaflight configurator.
@@mukundgirgaonkar2072 Well... as usual the most important part of any wireless system is the antenna, so you can easily get 20kms out of 100mW modules, prodived you have very good antennas both on the ground and in the air! I have not really spent much time deaping with telemetry modules myself, generally have used the integrated telemetry capabilities of the DragonLink system I use, but since it is also a control system, I've never had to use Mavlink to control the aircraft. One option is something like this - s.click.aliexpress.com/e/_DeJCWDr - which has an option for 1000mW output power, which is quite a lot, and with some custom antennas it should give you a good range! Another option are the RFD modules - s.click.aliexpress.com/e/_Detjhct - but they are pricey, though they seem to be quite popular in industry! In any case I believe you will also benefit a lot from an antenna tracker - s.click.aliexpress.com/e/_DnMnVLX - just to make sure the antenna is pointed at the plane at all times.
For a smaller plane with less stuff, like a micro skyhunter, can you just solder the wires directly to the board and forget about installing the header pins? Thanks for the video!
Yes, it does work, I have connected one to it... just plug it where indicated and it should work right away... hardly feel like it deserves a whole video on its own... but might mention it in the F765 Wing video! :)
Hi there, sorry to be a pain but I'm setting up a f405 wing and want to use an l9r Reciever, do i connect the rssi pin on the l9r to the rssi pin on the 405? and then configure it the same as you did with the r9?? Thanks In advance and I love your channel
I put the GPS right behind the canopy at the top of the fuselage, but on the inside! As for the antenna... get one of those mini stubby ones and put it right behind the wheel... thingy... should keep it generally protected... or you can put it around the wheel spot, in that recess... should be OK!
Have not payed attention to that... but it does show 0.6A when sitting idle... which I still find hard to believe since that is almost 15W... that is a lot of heat... and nothing is heating up that much!!!!
NEVER!!! calibrate ESC with props on.... i did this on dshot 1200 and motor started to spin at max speed with props, cut my hand hard. i hope they fixed this in new versions of arduplane..
Have a question. Why did you choose a omnibusF4 to flash the F405wing??? I have installed the most recent Betaflight 10.6.0 and there’s no Matek F405 wing in the menu. Can you help me?
I did not chose anything! Essentially the F405 Wing is detected as an opmnibus, but since I am installing a custom firmware that I load locally from my computer... what that dropdown says is irrelevant! I select the file from my computer, that dropdown is only when flashing to Betaflight and letting the system download the file automatically from their server! F405 Wing is not supported by Betaflight as it is a plane controller, not a copter one!
Well i keep everything of my APM pro in the rear FC bay, and the inner wall has those wire organiser channel so my Clouds inner belly wasn't messy like yours 😏
My autopilot was back there as well... but there were so many mods to the wiring over the years... that it just got looking like that! It was horrible!
good stuff Arx! always something new to learn. What are your thoughts/experience with messing around with MIXING_GAIN and AUTOTUNE_LEVEL >6? I've got a Matek F405 on a small Z-84 wing and I've been unable to get it to feel snappy and agile like my Eagle Tree Vector planes... Cheers
Sorry but yes planes should use a compass with Ardu. I know, everything you've read says dont use a compass. What it is supposed to say is " Dont use internal compass. Only use a compass from your GPS." I know some will disagree and argue but it will make a huge diffrence to your setup. There is to much documentation for the coders to change but they are the ones that gave me this information and have it setup on their planes. But only use an external Compass. You can change your switch channel by changing the FLTMODE-CH from 5 to whatever switch you want in the Advanced tab. I'm not going to argue the compass thing you can either use it for better flights or not. Hope this helps some out there 😁
Yeah, sure, you can change that, but especially for beginners, it will be easier to keep things simple to start with! As for the compass... actually I have not read or being told not to use it!!!! ALL of this... everything I say and do, is a result of experience! Sometimes of painfully tedious and frustrating experience, dealing with compasses! Actually when I flashed the ArduPlane firmware to the F405 Wing... the compass was disabled by default, and in fact... I have been flying without a compass on my planes for years now... and have yet to see a major issue, especially for pure FPV flying! It can be argued that it is useful if you do a lot of autonomous missions... but just for flying... really don't see the point! GPS direction is perfectly adequate as a plane never sits still so there is always movement to help calculate the direction!
@@ArxangelRC nearly all the documentation for ardu and many YT channels wrongly say not compass on fix wing needed. Instead of what development team say which is dont use internal compass use gps compass. And after years of ardu and using a compass now it makes a big diffrence for long range flights.
I remember when there were only 2 switches. I'm trying to imagine any child, anywhere, even with the help of his Dad, or the combined efforts of every Dad within a 1 mile radius, ever having successfully achieved, any form of enjoyment associated with the flight of an RC aircraft, over the distance of 60' without having taken at least a month of intensive study, mind bending levels of patience, focus and determination, without being pushed to the brink of sanity and giving up. I myself, have been at it for over a year, spent 100's and 100's of dollars and haven't flown an inch. I came here today to see how you installed the F-405 flight controller, assuming all I needed to see was how the power runs from the battery to the motor and the FC. I can only conclude that this is clearly an insidious plot by the Chinese to confuse, distract and ultimately bring the Western world to it's knees... lol, well it appears they may have underestimated the will of the British to persevere. I hope to return and continue the fight with what I pray will be a full recovery at the nearest RAF hospital. =D
Fingers crossed mate! I hope that too! Actually it is not that complicated, just needs some getting used to! Some of these are pretty simple to install, program and operate!
@@LDD21 Well... few things... you need to arm the model before you would see throttle moving in the "Servo Output" tab. Are all other channels working?
Hey Nikola :) I have just finally gotan analogueairapeed sensor for Ardupiloton my F405STD board. Its got 5v and GND but where on earth do I solder the other wire? Is it meant for a signal pad somewhere, or does it go on the RSSI pad like I swear I have read somewhere? Hope you cn help me out. Thanks mate. Happy flying!
Hey... I am not sure how this is supposed to be wired... let alone on that board! I've never wired an airspeed sensor, but I can tell you with absolute certainty that it DOES NOT go on the RSSI pad! I would look for a serial port Rx input somewhere... that should be able to accept the Tx from the sensor! Which one though... I do not know!
@@ArxangelRC thanks mate. Yeah I am a bit confused. A guy on rcgroups with the same board and sensor claimed it goes on rssi pad and needs pin 15 set in parameters. I also found info on diydrones and other forums saying it needs pin 15, but they claim that it needs a 6.6v ADC input, (whatever that is). I cant see an adc pad on the board, but I know rssi is 3.3v right? Maybe thats it? I tried it last night in a calibration flight and it seemed to work once it was flying in loiter. The wind made it behave weirdly in fbwa, maybe i have to autotune it all again now I have airspeed input? Its meant to help a lot with high winds and sticking to mission tracks accurately. Time will tell haha.. Thanks for your reply my friend. Happy flying! Chase those clouds :)
Hm... the RSSI pin is an input only pin, as far as I can tell... so it doesn't output any voltage... it is looking for a voltage input from the RSSI pin on a receiver... I cannot see the logic of the airpseed sensor being connected there!!!! I could be wrong though... I am not familiar with this board!
Hi. I tried to use arduplane on my F405 wing but I can't select flight mode or assign servo because I have a error saying unknown and initialising. I tried different( 4.00 to 4.05) firmware without success. I followed your vid and Matek website but still stuck in initialising. Google isn't helpful. Can someone help me please? I have 8 planes running INAV without issues but wanted to try ardupilot for my 2m flying wing. Thanks
@@ArxangelRC I download from ardupilot then use inav configurator to flash the board with the Bl.hex firmware(tried 4 to 4.05). Full chip erase. I tried to flash using mission planner too. Same results. I will try the 3.98 and 3.99 this afternoon. Thanks again.
@@ArxangelRC i use R9m Slim + for receiver, so for wiring, i just plug s.port from receiver to Smartport on Matek F405, and setup configuration at 14:10 is it right?
@@dekiaza F405 does not have an S.port... it can have the telemetry port programmed to output FrSky telemetry data. What I describe at 14:10 is how to setup RSSI, which is not the same as telemetry! I've never setup FrSky telemetry on ArduPlane myself, only heard of people doing it... so I can't be certain... but in Mission Planner, in the Full Parameter List tab you will have to find the Serial port that is setup for the Mavlink telemetry, since I am assuming you have connected the R9 Slim's S.Port to that same output on the F405, and in there on the right you will see listed more options for this port, in addition to Mavlink! I think one of the options was the FrSky Telemetry, so input the number it is given on the left, and write params, then power cycle the FC... and if all is good and there are no addition steps to be taken... this should do it! But again... this is only from what I've noticed while looking around Mission Planner, am not certain it will work so easily since I've never done it, but you can give it a try nonetheless! :)
I tried the ESC calibration the way you did and it all worked well the motor spinned all was good; however when I unplugged the battery and plugged again then armed the board the motors did not react to throttle movement. Do I need to save anything after I calibrate the motors the way you showed?
Not really... it should all be saved to the ESCs when you throttle down and hear the confirmation beeps from the ESCs! After that if you raise the throttle, they should react accordingly!
@@ArxangelRC Thanks for quick reply. I've spent few hours looking through forums and I am close to solving my problem. It seems i am getting only first three beeps when connecting the battery but no initialized beeps appear at the end, this leads me to thinking that there is something wrong with my DSHOT / ONESHOT parameters which prevent from initializing the ESC which I need to find out how. Also I already found that my left and right motors should be assigned to separate channels. I had them both on one channel. Hope I fix it sometime soon
Well... I don't see a problem with them being on 1 channel... but the F405 Wing does provide two separate channels for this... so might as well use them! :) Do you have iNav on this? Have not dealt with Dshot on ArduPlane... but Dshot does NOT require ESC calibration... that's the whole idea of it!
@@faktalist Well... it might work for some basic functionality, but it will be a mess, and I fear you will still have to use an external power module because, depending on the size of the plane, this might not have enough current capability for the hover state!
Need some help here again, please. I installed the Matek405 wing on my Albabird with Arduplane and on maiden (in FBWA) have lost throttle power after about 10 seconds of taking off, coming to a gentle stabilized descent and landed. This has repeated itself 3 times, but in the 3rd time when it was close to the ground I powered up again and it responded, shot up back in the air and I circled around gaining altitude for landing closer to where I was. It was very fast and the turn angle was not high enough so I lost control and crashed. Anyway, the throttle behavior was erratic, to say the least. I was using a brand new fully charged 4S1P li-ion (balanced, IR of cells about 20) in the first two take-offs and changed to another new identical battery for the 3rd flight as I couldn't think of anything else. I'm using the recommended tiny 30A ESCs on the recommended 3 bladed 7 in props, with Sunnysky 980kv motors (maybe on the underpowered side but I'm here for endurance, not to win any race). What I did do differently from your instructional set up video was using a Y-harness for the ESCs signal and ground and only used the S1 pin and ground for the two ESCs (instead of using S1 and S2 for each motor). Would it have anything to do with it? Can you guys think of anything else for me to troubleshoot once I get it out of the tree? Many thanks.
Well this sounds weird! Do you do auto take off, or just put the plane in FBWA, throttle up and throw it? Don't see how a battery would have anything to do with it, or the autopilot settings! Is this the only plane you fly with this radio? Has it done this on other models?
@@ArxangelRC Yes, flown with this radio in the last 3 years 9XRPro with XJT module and brand new L9R rx. Take off in FBWA, not Auto. How about using Y harness in S1 for ESC signal and ground, instead of each ESC plugged separately in S1 and S2 Would that be and issue?
@@ArxangelRC Yes, I finally figured it out! The recomended ESCs had a strange factory setting and throttle wasn't linear, and seemed to be entering calibration mode. It wasn't until a friend lent me his BLHeli USB programming stick I figured it out. It was the first time I ever calibrated an ESC via computer as I'm not a quad guy. Those ESC are super tiny and light and do the job well, but a bit of fiddling with software downloads, USB and all. Learning with every crash...
Very informative video. You may have answered this question somewhere else but just thought to ask here. Now that the F405 can run both iNAV or ArduPlane, what's your preference for a beginner like me. I had a lil bit of play with ArduPlane on a Pixhawk 2 years back building an F450 type quad.
Thanks! Well... not sure really! I think absolute beginners might find it easier to work with iNav because of the more involved GUI setup... although Ardu has made great progress in this field in recent months... but is still lacking in the way of ease of use when it comes to newcomers! For a plane, I definitely prefer Ardu, even if it is a bit more work to get to know it!
LOL I love your balance weight at 4:25, that's my kind of thinking. I had a F405 in my Tundra running iNav and they are amazing little boards, this particular one survived three months stuck in a tree last winter without issues.
Mine survived 2 months in the top of tree until a windy day came along without leaves. ARwing was destroyed and hatch open but No water damage and worked fine lol.
@@FLYWDRAGHIL Well... I have never used a compass on a plane, never connect it to the flight controller even IF the GPS unit has one... so can't really say what could be the issue! Is this a new GPS unit you are using, or an old one? Could it be it might be damaged... the compass portion I mean... or a cold solder somewhere?
Awesome video as always.i have set my 405wing with ardupilot everything working from following your video but keeps saying no gps all plugged in correctly just cannot get a GPS fix outside
@@ArxangelRC yes sir, my motor test is blacked out. Esc tone when i connect battery but no motor test. Not sure if i have motor set. channel one is throttle, next is empty, then elevon right and thne eleven right. this is a matekf405 wing setup.
