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SIMULATION VS ARCADE: THE VERDICT 

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In this rant, I'm addressing the problems I've had with the 2k community in the past few weeks. I packed a lot into this rant, so make sure to listen all the way through!
I'm a big fan of NBA 2K and I've been playing the game for years. But lately, I've been really disappointed with the community on 2K24. I'm not the only one, either. There's been a lot of talk about how toxic and unpleasant the 2k community has become.
In this rant, I'm sharing my thoughts on the 2k community and why it's been such a problem for me in the past few weeks. I hope you enjoy it and that it helps you
#nba2k24 #rant #gameplay

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@sersenseiy7104
@sersenseiy7104 Месяц назад
It’s squads on the randoms court instead of squad courts in the park this stuff is everywhere been like this for years comp doesn’t exist it’s all a league now
@TheThinkingMansTemplar
@TheThinkingMansTemplar Месяц назад
You see the bullying in the park alot.. HOF level teams will run around the whole park looking for the 60 overalls to blow them out and try to streak but as SOON as another HOF meta team comes to get next they leave and find another team of bots its truly sad...Same as the 5v5 99 overall teams who try to glitch into 92 rec the community is the reason 2k will always be more trash than good no matter what they do. The people that play the game ruin it every year without fail..
@EliteRolePlayer
@EliteRolePlayer Месяц назад
And then point the blame to everyone else that it’s trash. The very thing they created , is the very thing that will destroy them .
@2krabbit10
@2krabbit10 Месяц назад
😂😂😂😂😂
@TheThinkingMansTemplar
@TheThinkingMansTemplar 29 дней назад
​@@EliteRolePlayer that's a fact
@Ghostkilla773
@Ghostkilla773 Месяц назад
2k is about exploits lol. 2k would be so much better if there wasn't a RU-vid, Twitch , etc.
@fIagrantfouI
@fIagrantfouI Месяц назад
I agree. People just need to play the game and figure out what works and what doesn’t. Problem is 2k is so greedy that you don’t even know what actually works until you watch a RU-vid vid. It’s a lose-lose situation.
@Ghostkilla773
@Ghostkilla773 Месяц назад
@@fIagrantfouI and it just becomes a copy and paste game.
@N33zy23
@N33zy23 29 дней назад
Facts we need to go back to the 2k14-16 days, where every build had defense so we can really see what’s good
@EliteRolePlayer
@EliteRolePlayer 29 дней назад
Even the playing field . And watch people stop playing because the game is “trash” and holding them back
@BluFoxDB
@BluFoxDB Месяц назад
If you want to see what a simulation 2k would look like with these types of players, come to player control. Folks will quit because they couldn’t dunk on prime Wilt and KG waiting in the paint with ja morant. Whole time there’s 2 people wide open😭😭😭
@EliteRolePlayer
@EliteRolePlayer Месяц назад
Exactly
@mgl2708
@mgl2708 29 дней назад
14:56 that's LITERALLY why the Boston Celtics won the championship. There's nobody to matchup-hunt against the celtics, they can switch on every screen. This is the core principle of organized basketball, to look for mismatches!
@ahmadio_
@ahmadio_ 28 дней назад
I truly hope somebody from the 2K development team sees your videos. Im so tired of ball hogging spammers/cheaters that think they’re so good.
@EliteRolePlayer
@EliteRolePlayer 28 дней назад
Since the majority of the community don’t/wont like me, I highly doubt 2k will like me .
@billyho304
@billyho304 Месяц назад
The ROI in park is the reason why it's dead. No one is trying to play a mode where they have to invest twice the amount of running rec. Also they get more rep in rec oppose to park
@EliteRolePlayer
@EliteRolePlayer 29 дней назад
I will admit you get through games much quicker in park , but bringing park gameplay into a 5v5 setting is what I’m trying to get people to see .
@billyho304
@billyho304 29 дней назад
@EliteRolePlayer I agree with you. Park players have invaded my territory good thing they all have those cheesy tattoos so I can back out on sight lol
@cammartin7009
@cammartin7009 29 дней назад
I will say dis tho as a Pro am player. People who think that rec can translate to pro am… you must have not played pro am b4. I used to be a big rec player, me and my squad we used to run 5 rec games a night. But when me and my other friend went into pro am…🤣 boy it got crazy. Here’s a question, why do you think Joe knows playing style gets criticized? Bc most of the people who are saying that his stay is “unrealistic and trash” they are just the arcade type of people. Literally if you go in comp you finna have a lock, a 3pt hunter/6’8 PG (rarely see tho) and 6’8 big popper who is a lockdown. In 5s, a 3pt hunter, a hash guard, a lock, a backend, and a center. But the reason why joes playing style gets considered bc he just attacks the person with the most defensive. Only people who played basketball knows (pick up or organizational) if the person is too small or can’t play defense, or has a mismatch, you attack that person. Even people who go up against Joe attacks him🤣🤣 but ye I think this acade and simulation argument will forever be stupid bc somehow, people doesn’t want to play with IQ, they want to play with 2k IQ🤣🤣
@EliteRolePlayer
@EliteRolePlayer 29 дней назад
I agree .
@WeaponX_Factor
@WeaponX_Factor 28 дней назад
Ayeee yoooo Chris love your videos!🙌👏 Keep up the great work!! But I wondering how can I run with you on 2k would love to play. I like the way you play 2k. Simple and easy.👍
@EliteRolePlayer
@EliteRolePlayer 28 дней назад
Maybe one day I’ll have a day where I play with my supporters .
@WeaponX_Factor
@WeaponX_Factor 27 дней назад
@@EliteRolePlayer Awesome! 👏 I’ll be looking forward for this day!😎🙌
@marauder3831
@marauder3831 29 дней назад
I love watching your videos because I think you usually have a pretty neutral opinion and it seems really non bias. This video seemed a little bit bias towards your play style, I have to be honest. I think 2K can appeal to both play groups (realistic and arcade) and still be a good game (2k24 is great imo). The teams that have the most success in the 2KL and in post draft pro am are the teams that call the most plays. Nobody in competitive 5s are “cones” everyone plays a role and good PGs (Lil Twin, CB13, etc.) are constantly calling things to keep people off balance. There doesn’t have to be a line, a separation. It doesn’t have to be one way or the other, because good players use ALL aspects of the game. Just my thoughts, everyone is entitled to their own opinion. keep up the videos my guy. Love watching these
@EliteRolePlayer
@EliteRolePlayer 29 дней назад
This is a point of view I can respect because you know how to communicate. I’m aware that this games has the very fine line between simulation and arcade . But abusing broken mechanics is where I draw the line .
@fIagrantfouI
@fIagrantfouI 28 дней назад
@@EliteRolePlayer😂
@jahnj2523
@jahnj2523 27 дней назад
​@@fIagrantfouIwhat's so funny?
@fIagrantfouI
@fIagrantfouI 27 дней назад
@@jahnj2523 the shoe fits.
@jahnj2523
@jahnj2523 27 дней назад
@@fIagrantfouI we can wager anytime you want. No less than 5k tho 🤷🏿‍♂️
@keithianhyman5440
@keithianhyman5440 29 дней назад
Well said bro truth hurts
@ColeFrmNc
@ColeFrmNc 29 дней назад
The fact you’d let a guy drop 59 on ur head but scream “sim” is wild , would the mavs let Kyrie keep guarding Jayson Tatum if he had 45 already ? Some of yall use “sim” cause honestly ur just not that good at the game
@EliteRolePlayer
@EliteRolePlayer 29 дней назад
I like how you see one video and assume I’m not good at the game . I have a lot of videos on my channel that would show you otherwise. I also find it very interesting, that I will actually upload a game like this , and show people like you , that your brain still has developing to do. The gameplay you watched was a full game on a simulation style of play vs an arcade style of play. Let this be your last comment , if you don’t like what this channel represents, move on from it , or I’ll remove you myself . I don’t need you here.
@ColeFrmNc
@ColeFrmNc 29 дней назад
@@EliteRolePlayer next time let’s actually read and analyze the comment before you respond oh wise one , I said “some” now go back to crying about full teams in the rec again
@fIagrantfouI
@fIagrantfouI 29 дней назад
@@ColeFrmNctold bro we can set up a match. Wager, middle man, and live stream it to his channel. Instead he stays ducking and throws out passive threats … on a public channel 😂 they can never back up their play style… EVER.
@Povcharun
@Povcharun 29 дней назад
Bro I’ve been playing 2k since 2k17 when I was 16, now I’m about to be 24 and I am truly disgusted at the rec. down to the delay, the randoms(I only run random rec because my squad from last year hates this year because it’s buns) I tried dribbling my sticks off don’t work for me. I play like I really play in real life. I averaged 24 ppg 6 asts I would average more if people could shoot or if 4 mfs wouldn’t cut to the basket because they are so impatient. I’m adopting the philosophy of it is what it is bro I can take accountability but some people just can’t and this cross play? Has started a war within the factions of a bitter community very little times I don’t have to argue in the rec smh
@EliteRolePlayer
@EliteRolePlayer 29 дней назад
Don’t even waste your time arguing , save the breath .
@cameronperry8586
@cameronperry8586 29 дней назад
Sorry shit I see on 2k is in the REC, and 5 stack team will come out in zone against your team with an AI knowing you can’t beat the zone as easily with a random moving running around AI on the team.
@EliteRolePlayer
@EliteRolePlayer 29 дней назад
I know your pain
@adjrnyc1
@adjrnyc1 27 дней назад
I have a bit of a hot take. But I feel that a big reason that doesn't get talked about a lot for the way the 2k community is now is due to the micro transactions. With how hard it is to go NMS and how expensive vc has become, ppl don't have the time or money to be experimenting with the builder or the mechanics of the game. Because they may only be able to make 1 or 2 builds, they'll probably look to content creators for guidance on a good build to make. But unfortunately some creators care more about views than actually being helpful so they'll only show builds that lend themselves to clips that are more accessible to the average viewer. Who likely isn't actually knowledgeable about the sport.
@EliteRolePlayer
@EliteRolePlayer 27 дней назад
You’re absolutely correct 👍🏾
@laszlokiss483
@laszlokiss483 27 дней назад
2K is a sim game first and foremost (or at least used to be) anybody who says it should be more or supports the leaning into arcade style should go play games like NBA jam and build a franchise out of that since arcade basketball is so damn great and fun right ?
@EliteRolePlayer
@EliteRolePlayer 27 дней назад
That’s what I believe and the side that I lean on, but they just continue to tell me I’m trash at the game and I’m a grown man who’s crying 😢
@san2kkk
@san2kkk 21 день назад
And when they fully convert it’s already bad now 2k devs literally pointed out there needs to be a balance between both sim and arcade style because of the clunky and canned animation with the more realistic gameplay the gameplay will be more stiff and have less control over your player
@waff6ix
@waff6ix 29 дней назад
12:00 EXACTLY💯ITS NOT FUN AT ALL PLAYING AGAINST AI BOTS IN STARTING 5 OR MYCAREER💔💔WHAT MAKES 2K FUN TO ME IS WHEN IM GREENING CRAZY SHOTS, GETTING INSANE CONTACT DUNKS, BREAKING ANKLES AGAINST A REAL PERSON💯ITS EVEN MORE FUN WHEN U GO AGAINST A FULL 5 & THEY ALL 5 CANT STOP U THATS A FEELING U CANT GET JUS BY PLAYING THE CPU💯😮‍💨 BUT I DONT GET MAD WHEN PPL WANNA TRY TO SCORE ON ME THO💯I HAVE THE MOST FUN ON 2K WHEN IM COOKING ON OFFENSE & IM LOCKING UP ON DEFENSE 2🔒🔒
@EliteRolePlayer
@EliteRolePlayer 28 дней назад
In starting 5 you play against another user .
@waff6ix
@waff6ix 28 дней назад
@@EliteRolePlayer STARTING 5 IS NOT FUN💯MAJORITY OF USERS WHO PLAY STARTING 5 ARE NOT EVEN GOOD AT THE GAME 2 BEGIN WITH😮‍💨I TRIED STARTING 5 A FEW TIMES & STILL GOT OFF BALLED EVERY PLAY💔💔💔IF I WANTED TO PLAY AGAINST THE CPU I WOULD PLAY MYCAREER BUT MYCAREER ISNT FUN AT ALL EITHER😮‍💨THE PEOPLE THAT PLAY STARTING 5 MITE AS WELL BE MYCAREER BOTS ON ROOKIE CAUSE THAT IT WHAT IT FEELS LIKE EVERY TIME I LOAD UP💔💔
@teenealz9910
@teenealz9910 Месяц назад
😤💯🔥💪
@fIagrantfouI
@fIagrantfouI Месяц назад
You can respect basketball, mimic what you see on TV, and still suck at the game. That’s the issue. Not everyone deserves a voice. RNG algorithms implemented into the game to give casuals the upper hand. You don’t realize the products we have now are because the causals were listened to. The irony. Is this why sim heads never step foot in private pro am leagues? Never play for money, never actually put their “SKILLS” to the test 😂 You don’t think dudes that play stage aren’t having fun? Think about what you’re saying, instead of trying to change a narrative. Sim nation style of play doesn’t contribute to winning. You come home from work to lose to the same sweats over and over… no fun in that. You can’t compete or adapt, so you point the finger and cry to 2k. If you want to call out the flaws of the cheesers, they can easily call out the same ones, but Sim Nation still won’t do a damn thing about it.
@EliteRolePlayer
@EliteRolePlayer Месяц назад
You need to look at my channel buddy , I’m like that in this game . Dont get yourself into a hole you can’t get out of. Also don’t have this be your last comment , if you don’t like what this channel talks about , move on or I’ll remove you myself .
@fIagrantfouI
@fIagrantfouI Месяц назад
@@EliteRolePlayerso we can match tonight in pro am?
@fIagrantfouI
@fIagrantfouI Месяц назад
@@EliteRolePlayerit’s a public channel right? 😂 My comments will be seen regardless.
@adyelnoyhadryel7930
@adyelnoyhadryel7930 Месяц назад
What's the point of us sim heads going to into pro am or play for money against glitchers and cheesers. Now I'm a brutha I'll play anybody whenever wherever, but point still stands
@fIagrantfouI
@fIagrantfouI 29 дней назад
@@adyelnoyhadryel7930 sim players don’t usually play other skilled sim players for money, that defeats the purpose of what the creator of this video says. because he and other people in the comments said “they hide from each other” reality is most people that try their hardest to label themselves as “skilled” do. I respect when people can confidently play anyone under any circumstance if they truly believe in it so good on you.
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