SINS of the Past RETURN... Games Workshop INSANITY is Back! Warhammer 40000 Adepta Sororitas

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Games Workshop has Made the same Mistake Again! Aeldari were absolutely broken at the Launch of 10th Edition, and required multiple Nerfs over the past year, to get them in line... Now Games Workshop is making the same Mistake again with Adepta Sororitas! The Fate dice were a real problem, guaranteeing dice results without a roll, and now GW is Letting Adepta Sororitas SPAM Miracle Dice! Same ISSUE, Different FACTION! #New40k #NewAoS
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@turbosnowy 2 месяца назад

Re Sisters: I just buy them to paint them - I give no effs about codexs or how good they are, same as Necrons, and Dark Angels. Oh and Dark Eldar. Yes I may have a problem. But if GW is listening make them all awful game wise and drop prices so I can pick everything up for cheap :)

@WarHammerMan 2 месяца назад

its such a great range! so much fun to paint, i love sisters. haha nerf em to hell, so we can get the real deals, from the meta-chasers... i like your style lol cheers

@fredgilbert2032 2 месяца назад

Or just use them with a game like one page rules.

@SmashingSnow 2 месяца назад

What would you recommend a good model or unit to paint/build for a beginner? I will be joining a painting comp at my local store soon. What order did you choose to paint your Sisters as?

@WarHammerMan 2 месяца назад

i have painted a ton of different orders for sisters. sacred rose, ardent shroud, eben chalice, and a few custom ones. i really like the red of bloody rose, or the custom white armour, with blue cloth the best. are you specifically looking to paint a sisters model for the painting comp? i love morvenn vahl, and saint celestine. they are two of my favorite models! the tanks, especially the exorcist are really cool too!

@SmashingSnow 2 месяца назад

@WarHammerMan Yes, I am looking at either a battle sister squad, a terminator squad, or some of the characters from the sister's range. I was thinking of starting up an Ebon Chalice order or going with a minor order called The Blue Robe

@brothercaptainmundo 2 месяца назад

They are T3 and S3. The miracle dice are random rolls with some options to turn them into a 6. It is the flavor of the army to turn the tide in a battle. It is also an army of attrition. Typically, we lose a "key" unit and make up for it in our tool box. I don't hope the community does not turn miracle dice into an issue. It is a glass cannon army. I guess what seems to be intimidating is we can guarantee a roll to drive an outcome. I feel it makes up for the T3 across the board for foot troops. We don't have Str 14 weapons for tank busting. What are your thoughts?

@WarHammerMan 2 месяца назад

like i said. i play sisters, and play in tournaments on the regular. sisters were already very strong. the additional miracle dice will break the army. the consistent 6++ saves, will mean you can guarantee no damage from big weapons, even more so. an average army using the miracle dice detachment will have 40+ miracle dice in a game now, thats base 9 6s, not to mention the ability to flip others to 6s, so i expect about 15x 6s per game. aeldari are also t3, and most have a single wound, and they were absolutely broken. so like i said... sisters will be broken, thats my opinion. the only way they arent is if they see massive pts increases, which will completely change the army... so either way, in my opinion its bad for 40k. but we will know in the next few days/weeks. the competitive community will 100% break anything they can, which is even more ridiculous, since they are "play-testers"... but time will tell, just keep in mind i'm almost always right about this stuff. cheers

@Eve___ 2 месяца назад

you're literally describing Eldar lol

@brothercaptainmundo 2 месяца назад

I guess my point of view is not competitive play. I use units because I like them and they are cool looking. So for a casual player like me, I dot see the big deal. Min maxing is always something I never agreed with in any game.

@LittleIAO 2 месяца назад

@@brothercaptainmundothe problems would be compounded in casual play in reality because there are far less people paying attention to trying to actively balance broken abilities and combos. You can mean well and just completely wreck random players by accident and give them nasty feel bad moments simply by playing your faction rules as written. Casual players are less clued in to potential issues to try and house rule before things get out of hand as well. They likely get less opportunities to put models on a table and each game matters a lot more for their continued enjoyment. A lot goes into it for sure and it's a big conversation. Certainly there are other ways to make any faction interesting without guaranteed dice results.

@nielsjensen4185 2 месяца назад

Str 3 base means nothing as melee units have weapons that commonly have more Str than the base model. Adepta Sororitas is also a shooting army that is in the vast majority of cases armed with Str 4 or higher weapons. So, all that matters is the T3, they still wear power armour though.

@Neoyugi 2 месяца назад

Imo the miracle dice/detachment changes were needed, yes sister units got stronger as they took damage but it sounded better on paper than in play, +1 to hit and wound for 2 remaining models is worth jackshit. The core of sisters strength in the meta was cheap msu units for scoring, which was gutted with the removal of crusaders, the buffs were needed to counter balance.

@WarHammerMan 2 месяца назад

i get what you're saying, but you have mixed units... so when models die, the key models, like superiors, special, and heavy weapons got +1 to wound, which is pretty good on meltas... also sisters were consistently winning events and placing in the top ten. so the addition of detachments would have more than made up for the removal of crusaders... i get that you're a sisters player, so you want all the buffs, but getting like 30-50 miracle dice in a game is going to break them, and they will get nerf'd badly... thats good for no-one. keep in mind also that i play sisters, and play competitively, so i have a very good idea how good they were, and what tournament players will do with them. also i play deathwatch, and my best unit gets +1 to hit when a model dies, and +1 to wound below half... so I REALY get what you're saying, but IMO your opinion is wrong lol. the meta was cheap msu units, because they are great, and it was also lots of castigators, which are also great cheers

@Neoyugi 2 месяца назад

@@WarHammerMan "30-50 miracle dice" That's a gross exaggeration and you know it and beside the point, you can still only use 1 MD per phase, 2 with the new detachment but you lose out on beefier detachments. With the changes we went from sitting on objectives, activating for secondaries to actually having some oomph in combat...you know, war in a wargame.

@kingoglow2186 2 месяца назад

@@Neoyugi It is 1 Miracle dice per UNIT per phase; 2 MD per unit per phase with the new detachment.

@WarHammerMan 2 месяца назад

@@Neoyugi how is it an exaggeration? you get 1 per player turn, times 10 turns, thats 10+1 every time a unit dies, with an average of 30 units, so when 20 die, you'll have had 30 dice, plus extras from enhancements... most competitive lists will get 40 dice per game, assuming most their army dies, which is what happens in 40k... so if by "gross exaggeration", you actually mean "statistically average" than yes... i live in the real world, and use math and statistics, i guess you're basing your statement off of feelings, not reality. but i'm factually correct saying 30-50. and yes its 1 per phase, unless you take a specific detachment, which is exactly what i said. so i guess i'm just right, and you're just being emotional. cheers

@shiir440 2 месяца назад

With the major increase in points cost, I doubt the battlesisters will be that dominating. Many 2000 points lists lost around 500 points of their army, which is quite significant. I am more frustrated with the fact that they gave very little to help custodes. The dev wounds they claim will mainly help custodes is just bullshit. It will help in one detachment where we have to drag along one of the weakest statlines in the game to make use of it and in one strategem in shield host. Compared to other factions who have several characters granting FNP, we have none of that. If it was the index, it would have helped us a lot but not now. Use of 0 point strategems and the changes to the detachments was everything we got, and we lost a lot on a lot of characters that are mostly just as expensive as before.

@WarHammerMan 2 месяца назад

we will see how the changes flush out. i think sisters will still be at the top, i think custodes will shoot up in the rankings, and armies like dark angels, and tyranids will do extremely well. i expect Space Marines to get a big jump, as most the bad match-ups for them, got nerfd time will tell, but sisters got the points increases they deserved, with the rules changes. also if there is one thing i've seen over and over again, Custodes players always complain, even when they are winning big GTs, still act like the army is trash. Custodes are good, the changes were perfect, put em on the table, and let me know how it goes. cheers

@EatTheMarxists Месяц назад

Yeah, you’re completely right. The Adepta Sororitas have been very strong in 10th, so much so that it makes more sense for me to play them than any of my other armies. Miracle Dice/Fate Dice are really strong, but I don’t know how you can balance that without pissing off all of those who play those armies exclusively. We’re all human - and we all love to win. When someone changes the meta and your army turns from very strong to ‘meh’, or even worse, crappy some people get mad about that. I don’t know what the right answer is, but the Miracle and Fate Dice are going to have to go through some sort of nerf.

@WarHammerMan Месяц назад

ya i agree. the new points def help balance it, but taking the randomness out of a dice game, has proved to be an issue over and over again. i started playing deathwatch after the nerfs, i like swimming up stream, but i dont blame people for meta chasing, like you said, people like to win. i respect people who play an army for years, regardless of how good it is, far more than those who jump from top tier army to top tier army, based on broken rules. but i also have a massive blood angels army, i havent played in months, because IMO they are too good. cheers

@EatTheMarxists Месяц назад

@@WarHammerMan I don’t do tournaments (I’m definitely not good enough for that type of competition) so I’m fine if I lose - just as long as I have fun. 40K and AoS is *expensive*, especially if you’re an obsessive person like I am. Literally I think that I’ve spent over $50k on 40K and AoS over the last about two years now, which is insane. I’m not a meta-chaser myself, and I’d rather play my Black Templars (by far my favorite Astartes chapter thanks to their crazy lore and attitudes) than any other army. I’m watching your video on Spearhead as I type this, and although I’ve not played it yet myself I have heard a lot of people who have and they have had a lot of good things to say about it, and that Spearhead is definitely what GW wanted Combat Patrol games to be, so I’m looking forward to play. Cheers as well, my friend.

@WarHammerMan Месяц назад

@@EatTheMarxists tournaments are nice, because each round, you get repaired against someone with the same record. so in a 6 round event, by round 3, you could be playing other 2-0 players if you're winning, or 0-2 players if you're losing, and obviously 1-1 if you're split. so its a lot more fun and fair than you'd expect. warhammer can def be expensive, but it holds its value well, new in box/on sprue stuff, only goes up in value, and nicely painted models are an investment, and appreciate with paint. i look at warhammer as an investment of money, but more so, an investment of time. i've spent far more time on warhammer than money, and i've spent a lot of $$ over 30 years lol. i do agree, spearhead looks great, and i think it will be better than Combat patrol. CP is fun, but balanced low points games of sigmar will be a lot more popular IMO cheers.

@Roan-xj1mg 2 месяца назад

Why would they do this? To promote more female factions/Marines? No, they wouldn't do this

@WarHammerMan 2 месяца назад

let me put on my tin-foil hat... ok, now i'm ready to answer... possibly. probably just because the play testers use sisters, and want them to be overpowered, to win tournaments

@neilmerrifield2281 Месяц назад

GW arent interested in balancing the game they care about selling models. This season x is OP and y is nerfed, next season it'll be a & b. Ad infinitum until the 11th Ed is released and the cycle renews

@WarHammerMan Месяц назад

na you're clearly wrong. while GW makes changes, and its goal is to sell models, they are clearly balancing the game. just check the top 10, or top 50 at a big tournament, its a nice blend of factions and lists. you can tell they are doing a great job balancing the game, because the top 3 performing factions all took sizable nerfs, and less played or successful armies like tyranids, and ad-mech got big changes. you can see everything negatively if you want, but you're not seeing reality. yes, GW is a company, and wants to make money, but clearly they are balancing the game, unless you dont believe in math, statistics, or hard evidence. but i'm sure you do, because you are alive, and have a brain. cheers

@larsrolfon7316 2 месяца назад

LOL war hammer man thinks sisters are gonna be broken hahahaha, dude sisters have the shittiest weapons an abilities in the game sure go ahead a spam miracle dice i'll still wipe em of the table hahahahahahaha

@WarHammerMan 2 месяца назад

i'm guessing you've never played against them, the reason they entire army just went up in points is because i'm right. but sure, you're army is amazing, you're a great player, and sisters are trash. but somehow consistently win events and are in the top ten. please post your win loss record from competitive play. lmfao

@Griffonbait 2 месяца назад

Keep plugging your other channel. I came here, watched your video (BTW:👍), and then went to your _War_ _Hammer_ _Man_ _Studios_ channel page to find a link to your other channel - it should be on your Home page, at least. I like too many channels and so I don't remember the name. A link in all your video Descriptions and/or channel Home pages should do the trick. Each channel Home page should refer to your other channels - or have a separate Channels tab, like _Videos_ and _Playlists_ that lists your other channels. Cheers.

@WarHammerMan 2 месяца назад

great idea, thanks for the recommendation. i'll add the links, didnt want to spam you guys too much in the videos, but didnt think of linking the main page. cheers brother

@Darkja 2 месяца назад

Repentias are crazy strong now, codex ones are even stronger, its crazy. Also, Exorcists are better and cheaper Manticores... that guard thing that GW nerfed like 3 times already. This codex is just nuts, and the fact they kept the small sized squads instead of actually having to field a properly sized squad doesnt help either.

@bloodfest8510 2 месяца назад

they got DCA and crusaders removed wdym they keep small units?

@Darkja 2 месяца назад

@@bloodfest8510 Arcos can still be taken on 3's

@bloodfest8510 2 месяца назад

@@Darkja thats only because it would have invalidated the previous combat patrol and sister players would've been upset

@WarHammerMan 2 месяца назад

i think with the pts updates sisters will still be very good. overall the changes are solid. i think removing small units would have been better, but understand the reason they didnt (as mentioned) manticores do 3 damage, and were being spammed, also got a pts drop. to coincide with the indirect nerf. GW did good, hit what needed it, compensated with points where necessary. all the best factions were brought down a notch, so everyone else will do better. 9/10 in my opinion for the new rules/dataslate/field manual changes

@bloodfest8510 2 месяца назад

@@WarHammerMan they hit everything you said in this comment. Including indirect fire again. Lol

@tdlainc.4737 2 месяца назад

Why the hell did they change the lore again? "Dominica and her five most trusted sisters" It was JUST HER FFS. *Edit, It was her and 5 others Old Printing. which is weird that the first part of it says "She was brought before the emperor" and then later on in the book it lists the 5 others who were with her.

@Valtier_ 2 месяца назад

Don't believe that part of the lore is changed. It was always her, Katherine, Silvana, Lucia, Mina and Arabella. Iirc

@WarHammerMan 2 месяца назад

i'm pretty sure it was her, and the founding sisters of each of the main 5 orders... but they have changed the lore a ton over the years, so i'm used to it

@Valtier_ 2 месяца назад

@WarHammerMan exactly! I think that part of the lore never changed though and always was like that

@tdlainc.4737 2 месяца назад

@@Valtier_ you are correct.

@LittleIAO 2 месяца назад

Miracle Dice, Fate Dice, etc is a terrible mechanic. It needs to go away in all forms.

@SmashingSnow 2 месяца назад

What makes them terrible?

@WarHammerMan 2 месяца назад

its a fine mechanic, just cant be excessive. it should be very limited, because it fits the lore, but shouldnt break the game IMO

@LittleIAO 2 месяца назад

@@SmashingSnow automatic results ruin GWs ability/desire to properly balance for them. They don't have a history that makes it a good addition to their game system and I have no confidence it ever will.

@LittleIAO 2 месяца назад

@@WarHammerMan it would be a potentially ok basic mechanic in the hands of a game company with the will or ability to use it responsibly.

@SmashingSnow 2 месяца назад

@LittleIAO How bad is the history of this mechanic? I am still relatively new to playing and have yet to go up against a Sister or Eldar army.