technically max is the bigger fighter with the extra 2 inches though vs porier? I know he was coming up in weight but he was a massive FW to begin with
Great point Chael!! 👍👍 Anderson Silva in his prime always looked impressive when he fought at 205. Not only was he faster but his punching power appeared to have increased. The question I have is how far up the class can a fighter go before being the smaller and faster guy becomes a disadvantage? Could GSP fight at 205 or heavyweight and still carry the advantage or would he be too little?
@@IIcultivatorII Chael made a blanket statement. But the trend of all the 2 division champs has always been the smaller guy going up and winning his second belt. Not the bigger guys going down weight classes.
Muhammad Ali won the heavyweight title from Sonny Liston in 1964 at 22 years old. He was 6'3" and weighed 210. Later in his career he would weigh 230 on average.
I remember struggling to box with small guys in college. The timing was so different and the pace was so much higher I'd ware out and get hit way more.
I would expect that's partly because the status quo in fight sports is to be very lean and cut weight to get into a weight class, so to go even lower is to stress one's body extremely.
I know it doesn't apply across the board, but I always rassled up a weight class whenever possible. In addition to everything you said, I think there was a psychological factor for me, as well.
But dp beat him at 145 prior to that so not really surprising. Dustin is 2 and 0 against Max in two different divisions. If DP goes back down, he'd take Max's belt.
totally agree, in jj championship, one time I fought with a guy that's from weight class below (70kg) but instead he's fight on 76kg class (my class)... and he's fast as hell, and don't stop to attack till the end... In that fight all I can do it's just manage to deffend myself from attacks tha's 1 step ahead off me... he's dont finish me, but instead win by points, but still win... I never forget that fight...
You mentioned Randy Couture, and he actually did come down in weight to win the LHW strap after previously being the heavyweight champ Mr. Chael sir. BJ Penn become 155 lb champ after already having won at 170 by the way too. Although these guys weren't simultaneously champs in both divisions.
Fair point, but I don't think this applies to the Cejudo v Moraes fight, I think Henry is a natural bantam and has to put some work in to compete in flyweight.
Theres a couple reasons why that is both true and also false/irrelevant. The true parts is that max probably wasnt used to the heavier punches thrown in that weight class which is why he got wobbled and stunned early on which weighs on a person the whole fight through. The reason its irrelevant though is that max was never a power puncher, he throws volume and he seemed weak because after being stunned he couldnt get the ball rolling on Dustin except for the small moment where he was absolutely mauling Dustin in the same volume respect that he does to everyone else. I think it's irrelevant because if max wasnt stunned and fucked up from the first round, I think he could've kept pushing and ended it with that flurry but he started off bad and suffered for it the whole way through. Either way, max definitely had it in him to win that fight by stoppage
Is that why Dustin porier pieced up max holloway? Size is an advantage, as long as you don't empty your gas tank early like moraes did, if you pace yourself you'll be able to better utilise that advantage like porier did or yoel romero does (another guy with bad cardio, but he paces himself to last 5 rounds) . Moraes didn't respect Henry's durability, so he blew his watt early thinking he would get the early ko. But Henry's chin held up and once moraes's tank was empty the tide began to shift in Henry's favour. So it was moraes that shit the bed on this one, even though he had the advantage of being the bigger stronger guy, if he had paced himself he would've won that fight but hinesight is always 20/20.
So fucking what? One guy of all the ones who attempted it lost, just one guy. It’s like fighting someone 100 times and winning just 1 out of those 100 fights and bragging about it. The 99 ass kickings you took matters more than the 1 win. Way more guys who went up won and yet you mention the ONE who didn’t, so stop being a dumbass.
I feel like moraes didnt want to accept that Henry is great fighter and it could be a close fight. He just wanted to step in there and dominate and get a ko in the 1st round. Let's not forget Marlon hit Henry with devastating shots to the head and legs that would have stopped many fighters.
@@kam67 what about when connor faced nate the first time? What about when joanna went up to fight valentina the bullet, or when valentina herself was fighting the bigger Amanda nunes. Being bigger is an advantage no matter how you look at it, why do you think fighters cut weight if being smaller was such an advantage?
All instances of champ champs beside rory McDonald lost to gegard were the smaller fighter..and i forgot max lost also ..so statistics wise the smaller champ usually wins. .when 2 champs of equal weight fight its the more skilled that wins is the old adage from boxing..like chael said maybe that skill of speed /timing is what determines the outcomes
After round 1 I really thought Cejudo was getting knocked out but man... Cejudo vs Sterling would be a good test to see if he can confirm the domination in both class weights imo
Well that's true, I think in most cases the smaller fighter who becomes a champ champ wins if his style is strong punches. Joanna and Max both tried to become a champ champ but because their style is volumetric and accumulated damage with lots of punches in bunches, I don't think that translated to their attempt to move up in weight
Poirier started at 145 though and now fights 155. Conor starched him at 145. He also lost a bunch other fights at 145. I think he just took awhile to develop into his own like he is now.
It's a huge misconception that exists in all sports. People always assume bigger is better, with very few exceptions. I ran track and cross country in high school, and people would say things like, "oh you got long legs, you'll be a good distance runner." This despite the fact that almost all of the best long-distance runners have been under 5'10". The best marathoner in the world is 5'6".
I thought gsp won the middleweight belt after he retired for the first time and also retiered his welterweight belt but if chael says he was a “champ champ“ i belive him
