Well there are two things I haven't figure out one of them was a couple of years back in Milwaukee we saw large missile drones going past us with no engine sound and arise into the clouds. And the last final thing is China's actual moon rovers footage when landed on the Dark Side of the Moon. The cool part you can see the parking lines of radiation that filled the dark sky landscape. This very day RU-vid won't allow the original video to bring uploaded. These are the things that you guys are not aware that's going on in politics
Shermer is a perfect example of being so skeptical/contrarian that he actually becomes more of a conspiracy theorist than the people he’s arguing with.
I honestly like the fact that he's a heavy skeptic. What better person to do UFO research than a skeptic? If he confirms, with solid evidence that they are here and have visited us it will be easier for people to believe. This is a good thing which a lot of people overlook.
He’s the type of guy that you can be sure that his ego wouldn’t allow himself to admit he was wrong all along so I wouldn’t trust this fool in the least. A UFO could fly straight up his @$$ and he’d say he sat on a rocket 🤣 IDK if they’re real but I certainly wouldn’t trust this guy to give us the “facts”
A good skeptic adjusts his views accordingly when evidence is provided. This guy is just a skeptic to be skeptical. No substance whatsoever, he ignores all the hard evidence. I'm not talking about aliens, I'm taking about the technology. IR, video, radar... we have that.
UFO kids only have the word of pilots with 0 evidence for decades. Idk, he doesnt need to come up with anything to deny what theres 0 proof of other than shitty 260p videos.
He’s completely logical in this instance. This UFO hoopla is nothing but a false rabbit hole for the purpose of distraction. Joe’s unimaginable stupidity is somehow always baffling. He interviews “intelligence” shills, MIC arms dealing propagandists, alien story telling profiteers, pharmaceutical peddling “scientists,” and occasionally a honest expert without a agenda. Still fools trust the majority of Joe’s guests..?
@@williamrunner6718 I think it'd be more extraordinary if those craft come from here. One question is, why would the government keep running multi-million dollar frontline fighters, with pilots and still using traditional sources of fuel? Wouldn't that almost be criminal, in wasted lives and wasted taxpayer money, when we have objects (UAP) that can basically teleport?
It is important to have staunch believers on BOTH sides. The sceptics to ensure we are brutally honest. The Explorers to ensure we are never constrained by what we THINK we know. Ultimately, BOTH are looking for the truth.
Ur saying because there isn’t sufficient evidence that he should blindly believe into stories that are told from around the world? And by doing that, he isnt a smart man? He seems pretty intelligent to me, he seems to be a guy whom doesn’t care about the nonsense of the paranormal, and extraterrestrial.
@@chazbarns1410 evidence supports neither the existence of extraterrestrial life nor its non existence, we simply say we don't know. But when "potential" clear evidence appears, I don't think it's smart to totally refuse it, avoiding mistakes is one thing and being affraid of making them is another.
@@chazbarns1410 By Your Logic Its Like Taking a Glass Filling it up with Ocean Water and Saying “SEE SEE I TOLD YOU I TOLD YOU THERES NO SUCH THINGS AS ALIENS MANN I WAS RIGHT I WAS RIGHT THERES NO EVIDENCE MAN YES IM THE SMARTEST MAN IN THE WORLD” that’s literally how Idiotic you Skeptics Look….. Yeah Totally bro Because theres No “Evidence” Something isnt Real….
@@andyharpist2938 I cannot take the guy seriously...the last two years have been a conspiracy of the biggest kind, let's discuss that shall we. A 10yr old could pick apart the 911 story, evidence given from structural engineers et cetera...no...let's listen to this tool
Naw. I think he's bang on with the amount of skepticism he displays. We still have no definitive proof that aliens exist let alone are coming here. It's a possibility but it's about as likely as the fact that marshmallows are the poop of the Stay Puft Marshmallow Man.
"These things have been shown to show up on multiple platforms. Radar, visual, inferred, and telescopic sensors. That is a gold standard for science." - Michio Kaku
Gold standard of what though? What's more likely, the fact that they're aliens from far away planets with highly advanced tech, and they're way smarter than us and just happened to be dumb enough to get caught not once, but many many times, or that it's top secret government tech, that you will NEVER know what they even begin to have? C'mon now. And why would they release documents about UFOs? It's reverse psychology. You conspiracy theorists never trust the government until they line up with your view.
So these craft emit electromagnetic waves of different frequencies. That pretty much applies to everything on our planet. Almost everything emits/reflects electromagnetic waves of different frequencies. Big deal! Maybe Michio Kaku should work on evidence for string theory (hypothesis) which he currently has none.
There's no way this dude didn't hear "GOD DAMMIT SHERMER!" all the time in school, he was definitely the kid who told the teacher she forgot to collect the homework.
@@youdontneedtoknowmyname6687 Not sure how you ended up in that conclusion, but whoever taught you reading comprehension in elementary school owes you a giant apology.
How is that? At 3:00 Shermer sais he is working with Avi Loeb to set up high resolution cameras in places where there have been UFO sightings. So they are actually trying to get better data on it
Im from Iran,My father was a pilot and he served in the army and was a commercial pilot for more than 20 yrs after that.once i told him dad have you seen this UFOs he answered yes and i was skeptical at the beginning but then i couldn't deny what was seeing frequently and my friends were just like me and we talked about em almost never cause no one really had a logical explanation.if my dad says they are real i can't say there are not because that man was the most honest man i have ever seen.
Does your Dad also believe in a God he never seen? So he can fabricate a belief into a formed delusion of reality? Okay I got it. My father told me so, his uncle told him so, some guy my uncle worked with told him so, who knew Plato and Plato told him so, and so on. Very convincing because you mentioned your father.
@@theworkethic no my father had no religion believes and he was an Atheist that's why i said he wast the most honest man I've ever seen coz he didn't believe in things that don't define by knowledge see you misjudged a man that u never seen and never gonna coz he passed away 23 months ago.and there is no others i asked a man a question and he answered me what he had witnessed there were no other middle men and he didn't say it i was the one who asked so i believe in what someone who i do believe honest and well educated i don see any confusion here.im not American im Iranian and here in iran UFOs are not a known subject generally thus there ain't believe and misbehaving about the subject here like usa
Being a professional skeptic (like Mr. Shermer) is being a professional fence sitter. It means never committing to an idea until you have no choice. And because of that, you never run the risk of being wrong. And if you're never wrong about anything, you can always feel superior to people that are wrong about something.
Yeah, but that’s not actually skepticism.. skepticism is being able to change your mind when you see evidence. it’s not willfully, being ignorant, no matter the evidence that is presented to you. Real skepticism is being able to do what Eric Weinstein and Michio did, and change your mind on evidence and data. He’s not an true skeptic. He’s just refusing to look through the telescope and be open minded to the data that is plenty right now. I value scientist have common sense and can be like OK I was wrong. These things are demonstrating capabilities, light years ahead of us.
I'll never forget when Graham Hancock and Randall Carlson completely dismantled this dude and he couldn't stop saying the same thing over and over again
Is that Graham Hancock the notorious bullshit artist? Just because he has an answer for everything doesn't make him right. Creationists have an answer for everything and won't accept defeat yet they are quite clearly full of shit lmao
Graham is a joke , a sci fi writer who reinvent history with claims backed up by absolutely nothing. His ideas get wrecked by a lot of competent people, because they are just non sense.
@@williamrunner6718 so the first theory to be suggested about something, no matter how improbable, doesn’t require proof? That’s not how it works in the real world.
9 out of 10 guests joe gives a soap box to have a special interest agenda. These false UFO conspiracies which are baseless isn’t anything but a distraction. Unfortunately joe and much of his audience are too simpleton to see it.
@@williamrunner6718 The evidence shows something unexplainable yet, not extraterrestrial for certain, which Is what Shermer is debating. Joe keeps pushing that it’s probably the only explanation because the Navy pilots and equipment are so credible, then definitive proof ruling out/excluding anomalies isn’t unreasonable.
Except he doesn't. Shermer is being perfectly reasonable here and Rogan's default is "Fighter pilots are smart people! They wouldn't mistake a balloon for a UFO!" when in fact it has happened time and time again. One of the photos released by the Navy turned out to be a Batman balloon FFS.
Mister, weird you mentioned that, as I just noticed that as well. AND he smokes ganga. Very impressive. Michael, however, seems uncomfortable here, with his iDontKnows; and his body language (right hand fingers going to his collar alot). I actually LIKE that Shermer is a skeptic and I follow him, as a subscriber. But, Joe caught him, on a couple of misrepresentations here. And Shermer sheepishly, half-ass backpedaled.
@@marvinbone1379 he’s not uncomfortable, he’s just trying to avoid a full scale argument with Rogan because he knows how deeply emotional rogan gets about aliens.
@Bully Maguire 🅥 if RU-vid don’t take you down soon,that’s about a THOUSAND lawsuits they’ll be hit with... the attorneys are powering up as we speak..
Holy crap, I haven't realized just how good Joe has gotten at debating. 4 or 5 years ago, Shermer would've been dragging him by the ear, but now it's the other way around. I'm guessing it's because of the relentless media attacks he's had to deal with over the years
Pretty sure this is the guy that Rogan went back and forth with years ago. Pretty sure this dude was slandering rogans name and Rogan made him look dumb. I could be wrong, it's a old podcast back in the redban days.
I agree in what you said although I think Rogan handled him fairly well even awhile back. I definitely see what you are saying about Rogan put him in situations .I don’t think Shermer knew how he would answer
Humans are sometimes so arrogant they limit themselves to assume something doesn't exist just bc they haven't seen it. I've seen very weird and incredibly fast aerial vehicles near the big observatory and many people here have seen the same but noone knows what they could be
There are descriptions of objects hovering, not making a sound, entering and leaving the ocean, instantly accelerating to ridiculous speeds without making a sonic boom and doing 90º angle turns without losing speed since the 40's/50's. Now, about 70 years later, we are finally getting some concrete evidence that these things actually exist, but they're probably just man-made advanced drones. Anyone sees anything wrong with this argument?
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You people can be sold and will believe anything. There is nothing extraterrestrial about the BS his other guests spewed. Absolutely nothing. Yet you’ll swallow BS before using common sense.
@@harrym9655 that’s true, I believe aliens exist, the universe is infinite. But are they flying spacecraft on our planet? We need proof, people want desperately to believe in something they will ignore facts to get to it.
Is he holding him to account, or is he simply speaking the other side of the coin, or his viewpoint? I mean it could be true that UFO's are being seen as much as they say, with VERY LITTLE evidence, or it could not be true. Both have valid points, and there is no clear indication at this time. So Shermer does have validity to what he is saying. Are UFO's like even 70% proven at this time? Until then, Shermer is right to question the sightings.
The ufo video I seen over Kiev was floating over makes a 45° turn up, stops in mid air then makes a few strange movements like it doesn't know which way it wants to go then flies straight up. That is one amazing artillery shell lol
@cockney1980 That is interesting, but there's a good possibility that it's a drone seeing as how it doesn't do any blindingly fast maneuvers. Could be something more, of course.
He’s leaving a shadow of a doubt. We don’t have any idea what these things are, or where they came from. I think Shermer’s stance is quite justified. He’s not saying it’s 100% aliens, or it isn’t. Because we don’t know what it is. Anyone who tells you that they know exactly what it is, is lying to you.
I really appreciate that joe has someone on like this. I think we often get frustrated when our ideas are tried and tested because we like to feel right. Joes agenda is far more then that. You can tell he wants to be challenged to give himself, and us the viewers better perspective. This is why I love this show.
Why though? He's had Shermer on multiple times and he just constantly shifts the burden of proof up or down to conveniently give him just the right dose of plausible deniability for whatever the topic du jour is. At some point he's just a troll.
The problem is that anyone that knows anything about the UFO topic, more than a shallow surface level pop culture nonsense, realizes how absolutely ignorant and uninformed Shermer is of the thing he claims to be an expert on. He's not annoying to listen to because people are afraid of being challenged, he's annoying to listen to because he himself has no awareness of the lack of hard knowledge he has about the topic, the lack of knowledge he then uses to conclude things from. It's not scientific, and its not right. The same reason its annoying to listen to a FlatEarther speak. It has nothing to do with being afraid that he might be right, it has everything to do with knowing his ignorance wont allow him to make intelligent logical conclusions. Thus the entire conversation is just pointless to begin with.
Off topic, but Shermer says there are no conspiracy theories on Hinckley, and I'm like *OH MY GOD, YES THERE IS, LOOK AT HIS FAMILY AND THE CONNECTION WITH BUSH*
Every workplace has people like him who stick to what they learned from textbooks decades ago, anything else is crazy, also because some of it may negatively impact what they worked on in their career
Both extremes can be bad but just like modern issues… alien talk was legitimately suppressed, so yes modern day we question it since we’ve seen resistance against it before
For the love of god can we actually get a solid evidence besides some poor quality video footage and verbal stories. I would love to believe in alien visit, but can't get bring myself accept it.
We all want aliens to be real but like someone else said, give us some scientific evidence or even a clean pic/vid. As soon as we get a legit pic our experts like Mick West and others will pour over it and shouldn't be too hard for them to conclude that its either; some earth based technology, VF effects, or something truly unexplainable.. ('unexplainable' doesn't always translate into 'aliens' though).
Not difficult at all. To detect us via radio, alien life would have to exist within a cosmically tiny 100 light year radius _and_ be sophisticated enough to notice. The joint probability of these events would seem to be vanishingly small.
He doesn't even need counterpoints. Shremer doesn't make sense most of the time. '..if we have this technology, the Russians have something similar. But they didn't use anything like it in Ukraine. Therefore it is unlikely that it exists.' Brilliant thinking right there, there's no jumping to conclusions at all.
@@nuclearwinter391 100% agree. All evidence that is presented to him he dismisses as claims, while all claims he makes he considers evidence. Kind of sad for him, actually, to be trapped in such a bubble. He also mischaracterizes fellow scientists views, while blindly believing other scientists. Imagine being as trapped in the maze as Schermer. Sad, but kinda funny to see him squirm on a podcast, I guess.
@@nuclearwinter391 I can tell you for a fact that the US has had technology that the Russians and Chinese don't have....and aren't close to having many times in the past. What happens though is the IMC needs to keep the workforce pumping out equipment and when we have...say...an aircraft SO advanced that there are no competitors even likely to appear for many years...Congress doesn't want to spend the money for something new. So in the past our secrets have been given/sold/stolen and suddenly they can go to Congress warning that 'they're catching up'! We just saw this with the F-22's having their production run cut short...because they were so far beyond what any peer nation had or was likely to build for the next 20 years. The F-35's were supposed to be cheaper and more ground attack oriented but now there are people wishing we had more Raptors.
I abesotuley agree. Key word polite. People who 'hate' on Joe, are usually coming at it from their own mind. Meaning it's not Joe. It's them. Ppl who listened to him for 10+ got to know him intimately, I felt his love and appreciation for fans and humans and general. Due it it being so big and complicated it's harder for new fans to separate signal from noise. But it's much easier to pick up on Joes purely intellectual standpoints. Also the politics complicates it further and makes him thr target of frenzied fucked up mentally ill. Distinct from run of the mill "bro" haters who hate him for his success.
Yeah, defintitly invaluable to have someone who starts at and endpoint and then finds only the proof useful his per-determined endpoint! Skepticism IS useful, what this fuckhead does isn't "healthy", "hardcore", or "useful".....at all. Seriously, elaborate on the benefits of what this guy does. Something literally ANYONE that's dishonest and scummy enough is capable of. "Power to him"...yeah bro, to you too! I did think of one "benefit" (loosely using that term in this case). He provides himself (so very humbly ), for that group of people that absolutely refuse to acknowledge that we may not know everything there is to know out there and are NEVER wrong. It's pathetic and pretty damn weak, usually going hand in hand, with the "refuse to ever admit they're mistaken" mindset, if not it just being about that. Because even people that flawed need someone to cheer for. A certain orange man comes to mind! The fucking worst type of person
One thing that is a problem at times in the scientific community is the whole “ridicule” factor. This keeps very legitimate scientists from even wanting to touch certain subjects w a 10 ft pole out of fear of losing their whole careers and being ostracized by the community as a whole. It even happened with evolution in the beginning. It was laughed at and dismissed off hand as lunacy for a number of years and a lot of actual serious scientists got laughed out of their careers because it was such a “laughable idea”. It wasn’t until the issue kept being pushed and pushed and by more scientists that it finally started to be taken more serious. The idea and acceptance of it actually evolved itself and over time, it became more and more accepted as more scientists were willing to steak their careers on it and submit their papers for peer review. And as we all know now, there is overwhelming evidence for the theory of evolution by natural selection. It’s the cornerstone of biology now. That was not always the case and it was a slow process to become “mainstream” vs “quackery”. I am a very big fan of the scientific method and I realize that science is the single best method for determining what is most likely the case given the evidence we have.. the problem I also see is that fear factor that exists with new ideas or ideas that people think are “crazy” just because it just seems soooo out there etc etc. this UAP phenomena has been goin on for years.. centuries actually and only until more recently has it been looked at in a more serious light especially after the pentagon releasing information and videos of UAPS that they had optical and radar evidence of these “crafts” displaying moves that seem to defy all laws of known physics and logic. What I see in the scientific community regarding this subject is ridicule ridicule ridicule by the mainstream right off the bat. There are actual serious legitimate scientists who are afraid to even touch the subject because of the “taboo” nature of it that a society has caused. This can block the progression of actually learning more about these things. At this point there is no debate on whether there are unidentified things flying around our air space displaying moves that seem to defy all known physics.. no matter how much someone wants to claim that it’s debatable. The real question is what are these things and what/who is inside em. Thousands of documented cases that actually have very specific details about the event and even by high military personnel.. Hell, I watched Major Jesse Marcel, the dude who was pictured in the papers after the Roswell incident holding up some kind of foil they said was from the “weather balloon”, I watched him say on camera that he was told to lie about that and pose for that picture and that what they actually found was anything BUT a weather balloon and that what they actually found was other worldly.. and this guy was actually THERE!! Science should not ridicule any idea. I’m not saying it should come to a conclusion before it’s warranted either- I’m saying, the current scientific community and way that we determine what should and shouldn’t be taken seriously is very flawed and NOT the definition of being objective. Ridiculing people to a point where no legitimate scientist wants to study the phenomena out of fear of losing their career is NOT the way it should be and is NOT the proper way to learn more about our reality and universe and advance our species. It just limits our learning in my opinion. Btw this is just and interesting event that took place in 1561 very well documented from that time and witnessed by many. A broadsheet news article printed in April 1561 describes a mass sighting of celestial phenomena. The broadsheet, illustrated with a woodcut engraving and text by Hans Glaser, measures 26.2 centimetres (10.3 in) by 38.0 centimetres (15.0 in). The document is archived in the prints and drawings collection at the Zentralbibliothek Zürich in Zürich, Switzerland.[2] According to the broadsheet, around dawn on 14 April 1561, "many men and women" of Nuremberg saw what the broadsheet describes as an aerial battle "out of the sun", followed by the appearance of a large black triangular object and exhausted combattant spheres falling to earth in clouds of smoke. The broadsheet claims that witnesses observed hundreds of spheres, cylinders, and other odd-shaped objects that moved erratically overhead. The woodcut illustration depicts objects of various shapes, including crosses (with or without spheres on the arms), small spheres, two large crescents, a black spear, and cylindrical objects from which several small spheres emerged and darted around the sky at dawn. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1561_celestial_phenomenon_over_Nuremberg
Well Shermer would condescendingly let you know that the woodcut is a hoax. Or the people probably misidentified a storm or Jupiter and/or the moon. Pretty obvious and a very weak piece of "evidence". Then he'd slightly smirk and claim it DEBUNKED! (wow this is fun! Just gotta be a morally bankrupt piece of shit willing to treat others awfully and somehow not get smacked once a month!)
Michael is that guy who when he’s arguing with you, and you make a good point he can’t respond to he just says “yeah I agree”. But continues to not agree
I think you and many people didn't really understand his point. He doesn't disagree that it could be those things, his opinion is that it is very unlikely. This misunderstanding happens alot to skeptics. It's simply a fact that the vast majority of grand conspiracy theories are either wrong or only half true. People like to believe in things, it's our own nature to react that way to things we don't understand. Personally, I'm a quite skeptical person but definetly not as much as him in this particular case, but you need to recognize that he's asking the right questions.
This is the type of guy that you could show the color green to to prove that green exists and he would say, "no, thats not green. Its just mixtures of yellow and blue."
Attention please: To everyone who’s ever wondered, God is real. The Bible is truth. The key that so many miss is in the inner work Jesus Christ laid out. Specifically forgiveness. To be forgiven we must forgive. It’s a mandatory requirement that keeps God at arm’s length until you’ve done it. Specifically forgiving our parents. It’s a secret truth of this universe. Our parents have generally loved us to some degree, feeding raising clothing etc. They are supposed to be the easiest people for anyone to forgive. That’s why it was made the bare minimum stander for us. If there’s love in your heart you forgive. It shows so much love and faith to God. You have to genuinely look inside, process your emotions, and forgive from within your heart. Complete forgiveness is an act of love. No rewards, bribes, or apologies necessary. That’s where all this starts, within your heart. God basically doesn’t care until you’ve paid this mustard seed of faith. After you do this he takes notice. He sets you on a path that will lead you to the true knowledge of him. God is love, and he and the more you show love the more you understand God. Please, before you dismiss me, please consider my words. I don’t share this for no reason. You must forgive. It heals your soul. It will lead you to truth. Please, just do. Also, please read at least three books of the Bible, Genesis Mathew and one you chose yourself. It is so important. Pray to Jesus Christ, break down those walls you’ve built up there, and ask for forgiveness for yourself. We all need it. Both giving and receiving. Please. The Bible is truth. Jesus Christ is the way truth and life. Jesus Christ is Lord
He's already admitted the pilot's accounts are credible. It's not really the job of a skeptic to prove explain anything because no one at this moment can explain the sightings. The problem is everyone and their dog wants to take Fravor's testimony and go straight to "must be aliens".
Attention please: To everyone who’s ever wondered, God is real. The Bible is truth. The key that so many miss is in the inner work Jesus Christ laid out. Specifically forgiveness. To be forgiven we must forgive. It’s a mandatory requirement that keeps God at arm’s length until you’ve done it. Specifically forgiving our parents. It’s a secret truth of this universe. Our parents have generally loved us to some degree, feeding raising clothing etc. They are supposed to be the easiest people for anyone to forgive. That’s why it was made the bare minimum stander for us. If there’s love in your heart you forgive. It shows so much love and faith to God. You have to genuinely look inside, process your emotions, and forgive from within your heart. Complete forgiveness is an act of love. No rewards, bribes, or apologies necessary. That’s where all this starts, within your heart. God basically doesn’t care until you’ve paid this mustard seed of faith. After you do this he takes notice. He sets you on a path that will lead you to the true knowledge of him. God is love, and he and the more you show love the more you understand God. Please, before you dismiss me, please consider my words. I don’t share this for no reason. You must forgive. It heals your soul. It will lead you to truth. Please, just do. Also, please read at least three books of the Bible, Genesis Mathew and one you chose yourself. It is so important. Pray to Jesus Christ, break down those walls you’ve built up there, and ask for forgiveness for yourself. We all need it. Both giving and receiving. Please. The Bible is truth. Jesus Christ is the way truth and life. Jesus Christ is Lord
@@sarcastaball the navy pilots who saw and recorded the video evidence say it was not of this world. He is now trying to say those people don't know what they saw. Their stories have video evidence
@@CxDubxU no what he's saying is the same thing has happened many times where people see things that are actually man made just not known about yet so thought to be extra terrestrial 👍
The UAP's certainly ACT like they're scouts gathering science and data. Not only to observe and gather information on their behalf but seemingly to give US information as well communicating through their actions. That information being that they know of our nuclear weapons and can shut them down whenever. They can read and understand our military's flight patterns. They knew Cmd. Fravor's rendezvous point 60 miles away and from what I understand only a few people knew. It's all so wild ..I'm excited for more.
Hi Brian, was reading your reply. I witnessed UFO's. Operating in my airspace. And from what it looked like, it's like there fixed to one point and everything else moved around them. To get an idea shine a laser pointer in a dark room and make random patterns.They move exactly like that. Hairs stood up on my skin and it made me nervous. It was almost paranormal the way they moved. I wasn't allowed to smoke in the house if I was I would never have seen them. 100% a real thing
Attention please: To everyone who’s ever wondered, God is real. The Bible is truth. The key that so many miss is in the inner work Jesus Christ laid out. Specifically forgiveness. To be forgiven we must forgive. It’s a mandatory requirement that keeps God at arm’s length until you’ve done it. Specifically forgiving our parents. It’s a secret truth of this universe. Our parents have generally loved us to some degree, feeding raising clothing etc. They are supposed to be the easiest people for anyone to forgive. That’s why it was made the bare minimum stander for us. If there’s love in your heart you forgive. It shows so much love and faith to God. You have to genuinely look inside, process your emotions, and forgive from within your heart. Complete forgiveness is an act of love. No rewards, bribes, or apologies necessary. That’s where all this starts, within your heart. God basically doesn’t care until you’ve paid this mustard seed of faith. After you do this he takes notice. He sets you on a path that will lead you to the true knowledge of him. God is love, and he and the more you show love the more you understand God. Please, before you dismiss me, please consider my words. I don’t share this for no reason. You must forgive. It heals your soul. It will lead you to truth. Please, just do. Also, please read at least three books of the Bible, Genesis Mathew and one you chose yourself. It is so important. Pray to Jesus Christ, break down those walls you’ve built up there, and ask for forgiveness for yourself. We all need it. Both giving and receiving. Please. The Bible is truth. Jesus Christ is the way truth and life. Jesus Christ is Lord
One of Rogan's best quality is his expertise in speaking through interrupted sentences. Rogan just raised his nose over the mic. professionally empowers through without a slight change in his tone. Cant choke this guy.
Skeptic doesn't mean you disbelieve everything It means you question things. Guys like him are not skeptics they've got their mind made up on everything
Like the equity for all people who claim to be the open minded loving one's and attack and insult anyone who disagrees. Which is to say phoney a holes. Btw, my dad saw 5 silvery discs darting around jet fighters in Michigan in the 40's, so this is not a new technology we are working on I do not think but who knows?
Attention please: To everyone who’s ever wondered, God is real. The Bible is truth. The key that so many miss is in the inner work Jesus Christ laid out. Specifically forgiveness. To be forgiven we must forgive. It’s a mandatory requirement that keeps God at arm’s length until you’ve done it. Specifically forgiving our parents. It’s a secret truth of this universe. Our parents have generally loved us to some degree, feeding raising clothing etc. They are supposed to be the easiest people for anyone to forgive. That’s why it was made the bare minimum stander for us. If there’s love in your heart you forgive. It shows so much love and faith to God. You have to genuinely look inside, process your emotions, and forgive from within your heart. Complete forgiveness is an act of love. No rewards, bribes, or apologies necessary. That’s where all this starts, within your heart. God basically doesn’t care until you’ve paid this mustard seed of faith. After you do this he takes notice. He sets you on a path that will lead you to the true knowledge of him. God is love, and he and the more you show love the more you understand God. Please, before you dismiss me, please consider my words. I don’t share this for no reason. You must forgive. It heals your soul. It will lead you to truth. Please, just do. Also, please read at least three books of the Bible, Genesis Mathew and one you chose yourself. It is so important. Pray to Jesus Christ, break down those walls you’ve built up there, and ask for forgiveness for yourself. We all need it. Both giving and receiving. Please. The Bible is truth. Jesus Christ is the way truth and life. Jesus Christ is Lord.
He makes a lot of good points, points that everyone should take into consideration. Taking those into consideration, it's still hard to dismiss the astonishing number of accounts where people describe some sort of ufo/uap flying around in the sky. They're not just reports from some back country rednecks but from highly trained, intelligent, and credible people.
There are also many “highly trained, intelligent people” involved in weird cults, organized religion, and wild conspiracy theories. High Intelligence doesn’t make one immune to delusion. We have tons of examples to prove it.
"If you lie in bed and hear rain drops and your car has spots on the windshield, that means it rained last night." "Not necessarily. My neighbor frequently runs his pivot over my property." *actual conversation that got me outta jury duty
Yup. Some fancy, fast moving balloons out there. I knew it! As a kid I was in awe of all balloons present at all our b-day parties!! The way they travelled all around the room, making sharp, 90 degree turns while sucking up all the treats I wanted to eat!
@@macioluko9484 If you're talking about the gimbal video its the camera that rotates 90degrees, not the object.. You guys really need to check out Mick West's channel. He debunks all your ufo videos scientifically and even recreates or shows other examples to show you what you're actually seeing.. Blurry pics and anecdotes might have worked in the 80's, but now its time to put up a legit video or otherwise its just a 'cool story bro'.
The Black hole in Shermer's UFO doubting Thomas schtick is the fact that not only our best military pilots are seeing these things on radar and by eye....but our best pilots in WWII were seeing the same things and calling them "Foo Fighters" 80 YEARS AGO. His theories fall apart very quickly when you ponder that.
@@ashleigh3021 Ockham's razor is the idea that, in trying to understand something, getting unnecessary information out of the way is the fastest way to the truth or to the best explanation. In this case, where literally millions of witnesses including highly trained observers such as our best pilots see the same phenomena- the "unnecessary" information is Optical effects, clouds, planets, mass hallucination, etc, etc. But if that makes you sleep better, be my guest.
@@dunningkruger3774 That isn’t what Occam’s razor is. The most parsimonious explanation is simply that it’s an error of perception. The most interesting part of this is not any claim of a UFO at all. It’s the fact that millions of people are stupid enough to even propose the claim and think it’s true in the first place. Magical thinking and supernaturalism really is a disease.
These are the JRE conversations I like! Joe doesn’t normally push back for the sake of argument, because he’s a polite host (which is a lost art), but his points were really interesting. It made for a cool exchange.
yes thats the real correct answer. we dont know. his problem is he at least speaks like he is disregarding consperency theories simply because its so unlikely. while we should think of the possibilities and not come to any conclusions untill we have solid evidence. untill then the right and only answer is we dont know
That's the same problem most people have in regards to anything and everything. It's rare that people will humble themselves to the point where they can say they don't actually know.
@@mollykeane2571 No. Not really. What's that saying? A memory is a memory of a memory. There are all sort of little cognitive devils like recency and primacy effects, and retroactive and proactive interference. In other words, right out of the gate, unless you have eidetic memory, your own brain is conspiring to make you remember events upside down and out of order.
The second object I discovered resembles the classic flying saucer in shape. This appears to be a 2-mile diameter "saucer". It has a tail section and a bulge that might be the bridge/ cockpit. A second one is buried under mud a short distance away. 24°55'24"N 170°11'31"W
Joe's language is so optimistic and his language is full of nonscientific assumptions based on his lack of knowledge of statistics and probabilies. Joe's bias hurts this conversation
There are descriptions of objects hovering, not making a sound, entering and leaving the ocean, instantly accelerating to ridiculous speeds without making a sonic boom and doing 90º angle turns without losing speed since the 40's/50's. Now, about 70 years later, we are finally getting some concrete evidence that these things actually exist, but they're probably just man-made advanced drones. Anyone sees anything wrong with this argument?
That tech works by finding and tracking objects in flight, the most advanced stuff we have and it says something was there period, when actual pilots tell you they saw something listen to them.
A skeptic is not that, a skeptic is simply takes every claim on it's own, mainstream or extremely frindge every claim stands on it's own merit, that merit being evidence.
obviously you’re an idiot then. sure he sounds like he’s covering up for the media. but to assume skeptics are always against the media is ridiculous. it’s obviously about independent thought and objective observation. you’re definitely not in STEM, I can tell that much.
He’s a gatekeeper. If you researched pizzagate when that story unfolded, you would have to, have to, come to the conclusion that there was in fact a pedo ring in Washington with connections to people in power. Shermer wrote a hit piece on the story, using every low trick in the book to strawman amd discredit the findings. He was like a rabid dog, totally unreasonable and beyond intellectually dishonest. He’s a fucking liar and a tool.
