SKEW CHISEL __How to shape, sharpen and set it up PART 1

Tomislav Tomasic Woodturning (Dodir Drva)

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2 part series for skew chisel as there is a lot to cover and I try not to skip anything....so in this part you'll see new hand forged skew that I'll sharpen as well as convert old captive ring tool to skew...A lot of info and second part will be live in few days and you don't wanna miss that one as well...
Enjoy
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WHITE OIL
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CBN WHEEL
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BENCH GRINDER
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DIAMOND FILE
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@ChristopherTrybus 4 дня назад

thanks! exactly the info I was looking for

@MarkJones-iv3ty Месяц назад

It's 2 am here and I can't wait for a sensible time to go down to my workshop and try out these techniques. Thank you so much

@tomislavtomasicwoodturning Месяц назад

Glad to help😀thank you for watching, hopefully it did help you out

@leenoble7472 3 месяца назад

This is by far the absolute best skew video on RU-vid. Thank you so much for sharing your knowledge.

@tomislavtomasicwoodturning 3 месяца назад

Thank you, really glad to hear that ☺️

@edeyden1326 6 месяцев назад

That's the best explanation I've seen or heard about proper sharpening of a skew. Sharpening by trying to match the angle is much more difficult. Also, sharpening by hand on the grinder was great! Keep up the great work Tomislav!!

@tomislavtomasicwoodturning 6 месяцев назад

Thank you very much sir 🤗 you will enjoy part 2😉

@alainnoel2198 6 месяцев назад

Dear Tomislav, thank you once again for an exceptional tutorial. The 1,5 to 1 ratio proves to be an excellent guide to grind a skew chisel. It’s the first time in three years that my 25 mm wide by 10 skew works well.

@tomislavtomasicwoodturning 6 месяцев назад

So glad to hear that Alain, thank you for watching and support what I do

@bobostrowski8832 6 месяцев назад

That was just the explanation I needed for skew sharpening! Very common sense! I followed your example and tested and my skew works better than ever. THANK YOU!

@tomislavtomasicwoodturning 6 месяцев назад

Awsome, glad to hear that ☺️

@michaelstraws2544 6 месяцев назад

Very informative, you explained a lot of things I needed to do to make it a better tool. Looking forward to seeing part two. Thank you.

@tomislavtomasicwoodturning 6 месяцев назад

Really glad to hear that, thank you very much

@nemoemanon6679 5 месяцев назад

To my mind you are adding a radius to your skew chisel while retaining the bevel angle. The radius is fairly large given the width of the tool. The radius dimension can be measured using a square.

@tomislavtomasicwoodturning 5 месяцев назад

It can but its not important to have excact curve, having curved skew gives little bit more leeway in terms of catches

@thefish5861 6 месяцев назад

Perfect sense, and very useful!

@tomislavtomasicwoodturning 6 месяцев назад

Thank you,glad to hear that

@terryyancy3957 6 месяцев назад

I'm going to sharpen my skew like this. Thanks again for another great video Tomislav

@tomislavtomasicwoodturning 6 месяцев назад

Thank You sir for watching 🤗

@MrThetaphi 6 месяцев назад

Very instructive, thank you, Tomislav! You want your bevel's length to be 1.5 times the thickness of your skew. Then your included angle is 2 arcsin(1/3) = 38.9424°. Very close to 40°!

@tomislavtomasicwoodturning 6 месяцев назад

Hmmm That sounds good... I've never been good in math 😅 that is why I like these practical tips

@MrThetaphi 6 месяцев назад

@@tomislavtomasicwoodturningNever mind, you are so good at wood turning (and getting your tools into shape)!

@johnnyb95678 6 месяцев назад

As always, your videos are very informative. Excellent explanation on sharpening a skew. Thank you! Looking forward to part 2.

@tomislavtomasicwoodturning 6 месяцев назад

Thank you Johnny ☺️part 2 is a fun one

@1crazypj 2 месяца назад

Subscribed.

@tomislavtomasicwoodturning 2 месяца назад

Thank you,I appriciate support

@jackthompson5092 6 месяцев назад

Very informative tutorial on the skew chisel Tomislav.

@tomislavtomasicwoodturning 6 месяцев назад

Thank you,glad you liked it

@harlowchandlerjr.6371 6 месяцев назад

The recommended included angle for a skew is usually 40 degrees, which is almost exactly what you get with the method you used here, and as far as I know most people say the included angle doesn't have to be exact. So, if my math is correct, which is never a sure thing, your method agrees exactly with the usual recommendations but is SO MUCH easier. Thank you, over time you will save me a lot of time and effort. By the way, young man, when you speak of the middle of the twentieth century as a long time ago you make me feel very old.😁

@DennisLampret 6 месяцев назад

Mathematics is quite correct. Included angle you get from this method is 39 degrees :) this method was taught to me also in carpentry apprenticeship for sharpening chisels. Ratio of 1:2 (thickness:bevel) will result in 30 degrees chisel angle(flat back joiners chisel)

@tomislavtomasicwoodturning 6 месяцев назад

😅 sorry sir, didn't mean in bad way ofcourse 🤗 I was born 9 years before milenium so tehniqly I belong in past century 😉 Thank you very much for watching and support what I do 🤗

@tomislavtomasicwoodturning 6 месяцев назад

Thank you Dennis, this angle trick can be and is applyed everywhere ☺️

@boriszaprudin1458 6 месяцев назад

However, the bevel is not the straight line but it is a curve with the radius of a wheel, so the angle is little bit smaller... Can't calculate exactly as the orientation of the wheel is not known :)

@tomislavtomasicwoodturning 6 месяцев назад

@@boriszaprudin1458 indeed, its hollow grind,but again it doesn't have to be excact.... That is beauty of turning 🤗

@johnh5463 3 месяца назад

Glad I found you, love your teaching style setting up my sharpening system today

@tomislavtomasicwoodturning 3 месяца назад

Awsome,thank you very much, appriciate that ☺️

@robertreihsen9096 6 месяцев назад

Love watching your explanations. Thanks!

@tomislavtomasicwoodturning 6 месяцев назад

Thank you, I appriciate your support

@dr.doncutler7849 5 месяцев назад

Thank you for a very informative video. I’ll begin to sharpen my technique for sharpening. More pleasurable turning.

@tomislavtomasicwoodturning 5 месяцев назад

Glad to hear that 🤗 thank you for watching

@racheldray1057 6 месяцев назад

I have been practicing with my skew, and your lessons are proving to be so helpful. I'm going out to the garage today to look at sharpening it to match your profiling. Thank you as always.

@tomislavtomasicwoodturning 6 месяцев назад

Thank you Rachel ☺️

@robohippy 6 месяцев назад

The skew and I have an ongoing love/hate relationship..... I am getting better, but for an old bowl turner, it isn't easy. My first ones were ground back almost 45 degrees from long point to short point. They are much more blunt now, similar to yours. I am trying to figure out if there is any real difference between the ones that are slightly curved like you use, and the straight across ones, which many of the skew masters seem to prefer. I do have one that has a convex grind on it after seeing Eli Avesera use it. I do like it for gentle sweeping curves, but find it more difficult to get a straight cut with it. It is supposed to be more 'user friendly'. Can't wait to see the next video.

@tomislavtomasicwoodturning 6 месяцев назад

Thank you sir, like you know its all about practice and repetetive work, same goes for skew.... I find accually curved and angled profile the same apart when it comes to peeling cut.... With flatish long point its much easier to make shoulder relative square..... Its almost self guideing.... Hope that makes sense

@randyrockwell6136 6 месяцев назад

I’ve been waiting for this video. I have finally started using a skew and slowly getting comfortable with it! Have a new sharpening system so now I will be able to keep it sharp. Best video I’ve seen on sharpening a skew …. Can’t wait for the second part! Thank you as always Tomislov 🤠🇨🇱

@tomislavtomasicwoodturning 6 месяцев назад

Hope part 2 will be of help..... I had fun making it☺️.... Thank you very much

@user-ff3uw5el9w 6 месяцев назад

Fantastic video on the skew Tomislav....I'm going redefine a skew I have to put the curve on it and the 1.5 bevel too. These classes are so informative and helpful to me, so thanks! Ralph. 😊

@tomislavtomasicwoodturning 6 месяцев назад

Thank you Ralph very much for watching and support

@SuperCruelworld 6 месяцев назад

Yep. Excellent. I had some help early on shaping and sharpening my skew chisel but had gotten it all screwed up and I wasn't sure how I was going to straighten it out. That is until today. Your explanation cleared up all my questions. Went right out to the shop, set my wolverine jig and started sharpening. Made a little fine adjustment to get the measurement as described. Once I got it right I started the Christmas ornament project you suggested a couple weeks ago. That went very well, knocking out eight of them in no time. Just having a lot of fun. Thanks more than you can know.

@tomislavtomasicwoodturning 6 месяцев назад

Sooo glad to hear that and that you really enjoy your skew now... That was the point and hopefully part 2 will help out even more

@alholston-smith7631 5 месяцев назад

Nice job, I was taught to use the skew in the same manner you use, especially when roughing out the bunk from square to round. I like your sharpening technique also. Cheers

@jorisdemoel3821 6 месяцев назад

Very useful, many thanks. I shall be interested to see what can be done with that new skew! Thanks for another interesting and instructive video.

@tomislavtomasicwoodturning 6 месяцев назад

Thank you Joris

@MarklTucson 6 месяцев назад

Another interesting video Tomislav. The idea of measuring distance rather than angle makes sense. Doing the math, your 9 mm for 6 mm thickness comes out to an included angle of about 40 degrees (19.47 degrees per side for a total of 38.94 degree included angle), so everything matches with conventional wisdom for skew angles and is a lot easier to measure when grinding. Really intrigued by that forged skew; looking forward to seeing you use it and how it performs.

@tomislavtomasicwoodturning 6 месяцев назад

Thank you very much, I've never measured angle but I'm happy to find out that is close to sort of standard angles👍 Forged skew works great, its just different shape that needs adjusting...

@theoutbackshed 6 месяцев назад

Very very inspirational. Looking forward to part 2

@tomislavtomasicwoodturning 6 месяцев назад

Thank you 😀

@NBCRGraphicDesign 6 месяцев назад

Great timing!! I picked up two of the tapered skews from Axminster a year ago and need to devote some time with them. I had asked Dutch turner Ronald Kanne to someday do a video on using these conical skews.

@tomislavtomasicwoodturning 6 месяцев назад

Really good timing😅.... From what I used conical one,its the same principal as regular skews but as my is quite longer it needs different kind of grip.... Otherwise its works for me the same, hope that helpes

@user-sc7hb1ci9m 6 месяцев назад

Bonjour. Rien de tel que de se plonger dans vos vidéos afin d'enrichir nos connaissances ou de rafraîchir nos mémoires. 👍

@tomislavtomasicwoodturning 6 месяцев назад

Thank you, glad to be able to help out

@stevenhansen8641 6 месяцев назад

🕶thanks Tomislav. The next video is a must see

@tomislavtomasicwoodturning 6 месяцев назад

Thank you Steven, it was fun do make it

@colinmacdonald404 5 месяцев назад

Thanks 👍

@woodworkinglife 5 месяцев назад

good work

@DougMilleratWoodSpunRound 6 месяцев назад

Great explanations. Well done.

@tomislavtomasicwoodturning 6 месяцев назад

Thank you🤗

@richardbufton3605 6 месяцев назад

Such a useful video thank you

@tomislavtomasicwoodturning 6 месяцев назад

Thank You 😀

@Bunk599 6 месяцев назад

I looked high and low in the USA for a 1" wide curved skew after watching how much you use it. Finally found a "Glen Lucas" from a Canadian source....can't wait until it arrives. After seeing your tutorial I could have just ground mine. BTW - I know you are not particularly interested but the included angle of your grind geometry is approximately 38 degrees or 19 degrees a side off the centerline......great video,, eagerly awaiting Part 2. Also enjoyed seeing how you install a handle.

@tomislavtomasicwoodturning 6 месяцев назад

Thank you very much, so glad you were able to find a skew, Glenn Lucas tools are high quallity so you'll enjoy it in years to come.... Thank you for doing the math on my part ...me and math are not buddyes🫣

@Bunk599 6 месяцев назад

I am a retired engineer. Be honored to do your math anytime...just ask. Seems a fair trade in exchange for all your turning tips. From what I see turning is 90% intuition/experience and 10% science. You have both intuition and experience.. Knowing the angle of the grind does not improve your results...... just may help someone (me) correctly replicate your grind.@@tomislavtomasicwoodturning

@gregc9638 6 месяцев назад

Can you please address the issue with the burr that forms during sharpening of the skew? Is it left in place or should we hone it off? Thanks for taking time to help explain the different turning tools. Long time subscriber here.

@tomislavtomasicwoodturning 6 месяцев назад

Thank you sir for your support.... I never take of burr after sharpening and I never hone skew for skew operation.... That burr usually is gone with just few seconds of cutting.... Much like negative rake scraper burr doesn't stay long....

@ronnieoreilly821 6 месяцев назад

Great video 👌

@tomislavtomasicwoodturning 6 месяцев назад

Thank you

@jayscott306 6 месяцев назад

Oh, I like skews. So simple and efficient. I put more angle on my edge, as in the distance between long and short points is greater, and a radius beyond the first 3mm is helpful. One of my mentors uses the style you demonstrated, gives it an even more exaggerated tip distance and he sharpens to stropping. He is an artist with skill rivalling Cindy Drosda. That's not his production skew. It's a neat style, and not too much of a learning curve (because of the conical shaft I found it just a bit grabby). What I didn't care for was the handle style. I imagine you could put whatever style you choose, but the traditional style, the one you used, is not my favourite. Loved the preview. I think each new catch is less scary than the last. Tell new turners to just cause 100 catches and get that out of the way. Obviously I'm joking. I remember the frustration of catches and not knowing what I did to cause them. It's nice that they happen way less, and don't bother me unless it's that final cut that wrecked my form. :)

@tomislavtomasicwoodturning 6 месяцев назад

Thank you Jay, handles are really personal preference, I do like that style as most of my tools are from Crown and it works for me....snd that is beauty, we all love different things and turn differently... Thank you once more and Merry Christmas

@_Egor_Egorov_ 6 месяцев назад

Thanks for the video. I'm waiting for the second part. I sharpened the bowl scraper at 45 degrees, the elm inside cuts cleanly, even sandpaper is not needed. I set the RPM to 1500 for internal turning, and the finish is 1800, I'm too lazy to throw the belt at high speed. I have a Record Power Coronet Herald machine.

@tomislavtomasicwoodturning 6 месяцев назад

1800 rpm is plenty for most stuff on the lathe, I don't have the need to go faster.... Part 2 is live and thank you for watching

@_Egor_Egorov_ 6 месяцев назад

@@tomislavtomasicwoodturning The higher the speed, the cleaner the wood processing

@tomislavtomasicwoodturning 6 месяцев назад

@@_Egor_Egorov_ not always, I get on new lathe 1660rpm on middle pully and get clean cut with every diameter, its all in tool presentation.... With speed you'll get less ressistans from wood but speed is not your frend all the time....

@metodemersic 6 месяцев назад

Dude, I got very similar forged conical skew frw years ago in some ebay auction for cheap, but the top was chipped away, so only last week i sharpened it, but was thinking of getting longer handle. But as you say, the short handle should be enough. So I will go fit the handle and try it out first thing. Thanks, Tomislav!

@tomislavtomasicwoodturning 6 месяцев назад

Glad to hear that, enjoy your new/old skew and I'll hope you'll find part 2 very usefull

@tonywatson5551 6 месяцев назад

great video Tomi. Clear explanations and demonstrations. I have the 32mm Signature skew from Colwin Way at Axminster tools based on the original German design and it works brilliantly . He has a straight grind on it so I was interested to see how a radius grind works. If anyone is interested this design of skew Colwin uses frequently In Axminster Tools woodwork wisdom Videos. His skews are available in 3 sizes from Axminster tools. Looking forward to your next video and Happy Christmas to you and your family. Tony

@tomislavtomasicwoodturning 6 месяцев назад

Thank you Tony, I've seen Corwin's skews, they are great and since Crown makes them you know its good steel😀.... Wish you and your family Merry Christmas and happy new year ☺️

@1crazypj 2 месяца назад

Are those tools actually high speed steel or high carbon steel? High speed steels (HSS) are generally used for metal turning or shaping/milling and will cut hardened and tempered carbon steels. Looking at the label, is it 304-300 hardenable stainless steel? I have a large HSS parting off blade from a big metal lathe that I was planning on re-shaping to use on a wood lathe but skew looks a bit scary when it isn't held in a tool-post mount (I trained as a precision machinist in mid 1970's, 5 micron tolerances) Ratio of bevel to thickness is a great way to remember sharpening angle, thanks for the tip 1.5:1, I see at 11:25 the skew is HSS, cool. HSS retains hardness when red hot so you won't change steel structure if it's blued. I like how you switch from metric to inches, at one time a lot of Europeans could do the same. I guess you have to be a 'minimum age' to have learned it? It takes a lot of skill to show things going wrong, when skew catches I'm sure it can be very dangerous for a beginner to lose control?

@tomislavtomasicwoodturning 2 месяца назад

Thank you sir, I have meet few metal turners and they usually are afraid of using wood lathes, beacuse of that tool mount, but accually I would say its easier on wood, but you already have a big knowledge that only needs to transfer to wood and its specific problems. 😅 Not sure about the age but I learned a few "standard" Imperial measures so I can explain better.... Well that was idea at least 😉 Once again thank you very much for watching

@bobostrowski8832 6 месяцев назад

Additional question... I use the same setup as you (Looks like the wolverine). My skew is getting short now and the brass collet wants to hit the bottom of the platform. Any suggestions as far as extending the life of the skew when the tool length will no longer fit the grinding platform?

@tomislavtomasicwoodturning 6 месяцев назад

That is great question, I have a plan to cut the corners on my platform, that will allow to swing the handle when skew is towards the end, now skew's end point is still long way from ferrule so you can repurpose it for shear scraper....

@stephenpeck5076 6 месяцев назад

Looking forward to part 2. What grit CBN wheel do you use?

@tomislavtomasicwoodturning 6 месяцев назад

Glad to hear that ☺️ its diamed brand I think and its b91 grit, some source say its 100 grit and others its 180...it doesn't say on it and by grit feel now after few months I would say its 180

@Bunk599 6 месяцев назад

What do you think of the Oval shaped skew bodies?

@tomislavtomasicwoodturning 6 месяцев назад

I haven't used lt , so really I don't know how it behaves, I would imagine its harder to sharpen as its not flat...

@ericrose8154 6 месяцев назад

I have my skew set to 40 and still get a lot of tear out on both soft and hard wood. Have tried all kinds of things like sharpening, lathe speed, angles, etc but no luck so far reducing it. Any tips to avoid tear out would be most appreciated in the next skew video.

@tomislavtomasicwoodturning 6 месяцев назад

Hi sir, I hope next part in corelation with first will sort that issue you have.... Thank you for watching.... If you have the time, send me pictures on my email of your skew with some info like, what grit sharpening wheel you use etc....