Skull Tricking is Easy Money 

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Torvesta: "People who get skulltricked are bad at the game and deserve it" Also Torvesta: "Is that a 3rd age bow?!?!"

It’s videos like these that make me realize I’m cheering for the villain.

Well done skull trick on me in the opening clip bro. That was actually a bowfa that is corrupted and recolored white to trick people. I suicided there to avoid losing the bow. Love the vids, sucks to be the target though haha. Cheers.

You should try killing Skillspecs with the lowest combat account as possible

First guy you killed for claws had Bow of faerdhinen, not 3rd age bow btw

"SUPER limited edition" character on raid.. given to every single player lol...

I think it's a good thing they added this to the game. You can't reasonably be expected to realize someone logging in and out with identical stats, gear and name. The fact that skulltricking like that works so well is exactly why people need protecting from it. It's either that or force everyone in the wildy to be skulled always. Skulltricking is borderline scamming imo.

Torvesta: This is huge. Charmin ad: This is huge.

That fucking relic snipe into 1hp escape escape clip...absolutely legendary

You should make a vid rushing the former stakers that are death matching on pvp/high risk worlds. Would be a grind for clips but ik your up to the task and you could get some insane pks. Nobody else has made a vid on it yet either

You could hear the despair in Torv's voice when he thought that chain mace guy got away

Jagex: We've now made it so you can't be skull tricked Torvesta: Hold my beer

Man... I fucking FELT that energy from 7:30 to 8:06, you're so right in knowing that was such a rare thing to happen at all to anyone pvming.. BUT then also being the person pking and then actually catching and killing that player for their loot plus that added rare drop they got. Super satisfying.. I must say that's the most relatable runescape feeling in the world tbh. Dude 😂😂 and then 9:45 to 10:25 😂😂 You really put the best of the best out there when it comes to making this game entertaining.

“F it, enjoy your loot” what a gentleman

That relic did get you the like, Torvesta. Keep at it, bro. Excellent content. 😘

that was a recolor bow of faerdhinen lmao

Torvesta makes his videos entertaining and smooth. Its hard to explain but i could binge his content. Your kills are satisfying P.S elite lvl skull tricking

Lmao I was nearly in this video!!! Thank god for the baby tick box anti skull. Idk how you switched so well in combat but gg you got me Edit:I would have risked craws/ags/ballista as I used claws for spec into ballista, and ags for whack after specs gone

Amazing content man I was glued to my phone the whole episode.

Video was sick! More of these bro😂

Only person I truly felt bad for was the guy who didn’t know to close the looting bag before picking up the relic. 16M lesson right there.

Genuinely felt for the dude with the relic drop lol

Awesome vid brother didn't expect claws first kill lul

Love these vids brother! Fantastic content

Back when craw bow first came out I was pking and the guy I was attacking finished killing his rev, he got the craw bow drop but I managed to kill him before he picked it up. I didn’t sell right away I used it myself as I was a ranger tank. I got my own craw bow drop. Best memory ever

Honestly I think the introduction of an option to avoid skull tricking is one of the best changes that Jagex has implemented for the wildy. First off as a bit of a disclaimer, if you're a pker you'll only care about what I'm about to say if you actually want the wilderness to improve. If you want the wilderness to be super hardcore and exactly the way you see it and you're willing to let it die down to just you and 5 other players then what I'm gonna say wont matter but if you actually want pvp to become a priority for Jagex then I think this argument can help. The main arguments from people defending skull tricking boil down to not wanting the wildy to become less hardcore, blaming the players who get skulltricked for being skulltricked and a hilariously ironic statement about understanding risk which I will explain the irony behind at the end. Firstly the whole less hardcore thing, yeah it's less hardcore...so what? As I first stated if you fall into the category of wanting the wilderness to actually get content and improve Jagex has to feel like the wilderness is worth putting time into, Kieran basically said this straight up in the latest QnA. Less hardcore maybe, more players? Definitely. Secondly and in some ways most importantly, this arrogant condemnation of people who get skulltricked is so ridiculously toxic, imagine playing a game like league of legends and spending your time earning characters to lose in a way you didn't know was possible and the characters you had unlocked to be taken from you. Not everyone has played the game for 15 years and it's the newer players who you need to convince that pvp is both fun and worth doing. Letting someone whos new to the game get skulltricked, lose everything and telling them they're a moron because "anyone" would have known better despite the fact that the only perspective you understand is that of a veteran who has played the game for decades is so ridiculously out of touch. Funny because people accuse Jagex of being out of touch with pvp. Finally to cover the most egregious argument about risk. The statement often goes as such, "it's the wilderness you should know the risk and it's your fault for not understanding the risk". The skull system was created to allow for people who want different levels of risk a gives different levels of power to them. You wanna be able to attack whoever looks the most tasty, you risk everything. You want to be able to defend yourself but not start fights, you risk losing most of your things. It's skull tricking that removes the ability to properly understand what risk you're getting into. People say just turn off attack options but what if I want to have the ability to defend myself, that's what the system was designed for in the first place. It's so much less fun to go into the wilderness and never want to fight back just because I'm scared of some random tactic that might make me lose months of progress. I'm an iron and I will literally be more likely to participate in wildy content with this system in place because it makes the wildy more fun and less random.

You beast. Super entertaining as usual 👏

Don’t even play anymore but still watch torv 🤙🏽🤙🏽🤙🏽 killing it still bra

I think the new mechanics are good for pking, because the average player who was too afraid to even try fighting back for fear of getting skull tricked will be more willing to give it a try or come prepared to fight back when wilderness bossing.

torvesta so pro, he can skulltrick an already skulled person :D

ay good looks with reminding people about the box!

Ready to watch another POG torvesta vid!

I think the update is good for people wanting to get into PKing. The risk of being skull tricked isn't fun when you're having to think about 30 other things because you're still learning.

As someone who's never skulltricked, or having been skulltricked: I think it's good that they added the skull prevention system. With it being in the game, it makes the anti-PK option more viable and accessible. Turning more PK'ing into actual back and forth battles, rather than a game of cat and mouse where the mouse puts on a bulwark and constantly chugs brews and restores. The latter option is still there and is just as viable as ever, it's just that the former is a better option now.

That first kill seems too good to be real :D

Wow tovesta upload Friday night just got a whole lot better!!!

When you escaped the flower guy w/ 1hp I liked the video, damn

So many people malding over the fact you can’t scam people in the wilderness anymore I love it

You're the king brother, keep up the great content!

Not a 3rd age bow lmao

This legitimately made me change my mind of the whole skulltricking update. That skull trick is just not fair at all I was thinking dressing up as a earth warrior or maybe running south and having another account run up. Logging out on top of the other account is just broken and you can’t reasonably detect that no matter how experienced you are

I could be fucked to fight back when there's zero risk to being skulled. You're already at a massive advantage with gear and experience.

This game is getting easier and more forgiving. I grew up in an age where a tree spirit would attack you in Draynor chopping willows. If you weren't paying attention, you'd die and lose all your items.

IMO great update. mechanics being confusing and complex for new players is bad. also the first kill was bowfa

I think this update will actually help revitalize the wilderness. All they need to do now is somehow get rid of clans ability to dragon spear people into multi and I bet a lot more people would be willing to try out the content there. I feel like most players are hesitant to do wildy content not because they know they can be killed by another player, but because they know there is a risk of essentially being scammed out of millions of gp. I've been trying to get into pvp lately but LMS is just an unwinnable bot fest, and half of the clips on youtube I see of wildy pking end with 38 people logging in and dragon spearing the pker into multi and throwing up their cringy clan hash tags. There's really no way for newer players to get into pvp while skull tricking and clans are around.

I think skull tricking is bad for players overall, but fun content to watch.

I'm really glad that box exists now as a newish player. After spending a year playing and watching all of yours and frameds videos I realized that there's just too many things I don't understand about the game/pking/skulls. I have always refused to take any value into the wildy, and I've refused to ever turn on attack player options because I don't want to get tricked. Now maybe I will start learning to pk, and fight back instead of just being annoyed and a free 100k for pkers.

"Yes! He's an anti pker, this is an easy skulltrick" "Why is wildy PvP dead? Fight back or don't enter the wildy" Love you torv but hopefully you see why this update is a good thing lol

It's a step to try and get more people into pvp. If you don't like that then you don't want pvp to be more active. Simple as that.

The skulling mechanics are meant to give an advantage to the attacker and defender; the defender gets to bring better gear because they risk less, and the attacker gets discretion: they get to pick their fights. Skull tricking breaks this intended interaction, and like the BP nerf, it should've been fixed a long time ago. It's not about making the game easier or softer, it's about making pvp in the pvp area work how it was intended to since rsc.

Props to Torvesta for tricking the no skull trick system.

I choose to think that this could be a good thing because maybe they're thinking of putting better wilderness content out there so they're preemptively changing the mechanics of the wilderness

I think pvp should be deceptive only in the aspects of combat. As in like hiding a weapon or using and uncommon spec like the Ancient GS.

Good guy Torv advocating the new setting despite it negatively impacting his ability for personal gain and community content. Can’t wait for your next shenanigans

So frankly, I like the update. I never liked skull trick videos as it felt very sneaky, but now I have no moral holdups when people still get skull tricked with the option to never skull in the game. So now, it truly is Darwinism if you get skull tricked.

Of course a RU-vidr would dislike the idea of skull tricking being removed.

very good update i hate seeing people quit because they're in experienced and you could argue they would quit for other reasons later on but nothings more frustrating then knowing you lost your stuff to someone else. i think it should have been removed ages ago people shouldnt be able to trick people into getting skulled

Personally I'd say skulltricking is one of the reasons why I don't touch anything pvm or pvp related in the wilderness. Lets face it, if it wasn't for the fact that you can use in game gp to get bonds then nobody would care. Most people wouldn't value that gp, but since bonds came to existence now that 5m risk is risking 14 day membership on your account. It equates to money in real life that you would have to spend to play.

Skull tricking is taking advantage of a person, while it is fun to watch. It's scummy.

I think it's a good change. The lengths toxic individuals and groups were going to in order to skull trick people it was getting a tad absurd. Mostly the duplicate accounts with slightly differing usernames. Baiting with animations or impersonating npcs and whatnot seemed fair game to me but the alts with indistinguishable usernames is rather shitty.

Seeing all those people not get skull tricked because they ticked a box is giving me so much life. Yes this is satisfying.

Skulltricking is a bad mechanic, hopefully people will now do more pvp without being scared of losing all their items.

Good riddance to skull tricking. People will defend it out of nostalgia or "easyscape" but it was straight up an unhealthy game mechanic

Keeping my skulltrick box unchecked so people who don't suck at pvp can still have fun. Taking one for you guys, enjoy my sweet loot

Add begins 2:32 and ends at 4:03. You're welcome fellas.

skull tricking is literally scamming. it is misleading someone so you can take their items. no different than every other version of scamming. Deterring scammers should never be considered babyfying the game.

Bro forget all the idiots who skulled my heart hurts for that guy who lost his relic lol so epic

Eh, as much as i love the content, skulltricking needed to go. Its fun but scummy as fuck.

Gone are the days of kids learning internet street smarts from RuneScape… training wheels and t helmets for everyone. RIP

It's a very good update. The whole point of the skull system is to allow the PvMer to fight back, and that concept was broken. Even if funny, skull tricking is hurtful. Personally, I was skull trick lured for dragon claws (with two accounts like in this video). It was not fun at all. It was not my fault. But I had this opinion even before that. When skull tricking, you use funny techniques to get only noobs who don't deserve it, or you use very malicious techniques to get experienced players -- either way that's evil.

No-skull option is a fantastic addition, but not enough Skull trick scammers should also be banned

Skull tricking is genuinely pathetic no matter how clever the execution of it may be

I DONT UNDERSTAND HOW JAGEX WOULD MAKE THE WILDERNESS A SAFER PLACE.

Man I've been watching your videos for a while and I've gotta say, no wonder pking is dead. You and your fellow streamers basically destroyed it. Don't get me wrong, bud. Love your vids. Super entertaining. But yeah, no wonder PvP is dead in RuneScape.

Skull tricking is one of many reason why 99% of the game cba with pking 9/10 the pker is a toxic child in a clan everything about pking is toxic.. I don't even care about getting pked or losing items It's the fact they'll kill you wearing no armour wasting both your time. Just to be toxic Or when you want to fight it turn into 1 on 10.. its just toxic and people cba with it

Skull tricking is definitely skummy, just like house invading

Torvy I've been watching all your videos for 2 or 3 years now but honestly skulltricking is sad and not in spirit of pvp. I realise jagex has completely neglected pvp but abusing game mechanics to make people lose bank is just not right. Looking forward to more creative content without skulltricking and looking forward to a better future for pvp. Cheers

Now it’s impossible to get scammed in a trade and getting rid of skull tricking.. these are what taught us not to be an idiot back in 2008😂

Frankly, I think skull tricking is scamming. When people dress up as earth warriors to trick noobs out of their bank for clicks, those noobs... probably quit. I'm so glad Jagex is finally cracking down on the more toxic aspects of the pvp community.

Skulltricking is bad for the game because it discourages people from actually engaging PVP. The whole point of the skull system is that it encourages people to fight back when they get attacked instead of just running away. But since it's so easy to get skull tricked, people learn to not even try engaging in PVP. You act like you're outsmarting people but in reality you're just exploiting the fact that the game doesn't do a good job indicating who it is that's attacking you. It's not really that impressive, you're just making the game more toxic for everyone.

they make everything pvm friendly , remove of the wildernis is the next step

Game gets worst everyday great video torvesta

8:56 "This game lol" I would bet your nans lifesavings that kid made an angry reddit post / more than likely reported the account Totvesta was on for bugabuse right after he arrived on the lumby steps.

pkers wonder why no one wants to do wildy content when this is what most of them do. Now that i can fight back without having to worry about losing my items i can turn player attack options back on. i'm for sure doing more wildy content now.

i just feel that literally wishing for the majority of players to be gullible, and then exploiting it, is laying a poor foundation in the collective effort in the games progression. but maybe im wrong, maybe trust and respect is unnecessary garbage, and bickering between ingrown factions is more fun than working side by side, looking at the bigger picture together, idk

I don’t understand how you don’t understand why skull tricking is scummy at the very least. I mean you’re fighting someone on two different accounts that have the same name. Two accounts meant to look the same in order to essentially scam someone into skulling. Good removal in my opinion. Not really the fault of the player for getting tricked when something like that happens.

My thoughts on the skull tricking prevention are that people who skull trick are scumbags, but Jagex also needs to stop babying the player base and let them learn from their mistakes.

Of course it’s a good update.

I love your vids but honestly, good. Skull tricking is such a snake move and definitely did not help the health of the wildy.

Skull tricking is a part of RuneScape history and should remain in the game, players should be alert when in the wilderness it’s supposed to be a dangerous place. Jagex takes away from pvp one piece at a time there was already left click player attack options.

that 1 hp flower escape.. gets me every damn time dude.

I think it’s a bad update, making the game way too easy for clueless pvm’ers

This video is f***** insane, best of yours yet

To this day , still watch all your vids and still the best RuneScape player. Love the vids

LOL that was you I remember thinking I almost had you and then realizing the pk skull prevention stopped me from attacking you, you are too clean at switching accs man

Loved the video!

I got a friggen RU-vid RSL ad the SECOND you got the relic kill. Jfc I almost thought you had finessed a RSL ad that damn bad 😂

Love it torvesta, love it!

I didn’t want that video to end lol