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The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim is an open world action role-playing video game developed by Bethesda Game Studios and published by Bethesda Softworks. It is the fifth main installment in The Elder Scrolls series, following The Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion, and was released worldwide for Microsoft Windows, PlayStation 3 and Xbox 360 on November 11, 2011.
The game's main story revolves around the player character and their quest to defeat Alduin the World-Eater, a dragon who is prophesied to destroy the world. The videogame is set two hundred years after the events of Oblivion, and takes place in the fictional province of Skyrim. Over the course of the game, the player completes quests and develops the character by improving skills. The game continues the open world tradition of its predecessors by allowing the player to travel anywhere in the game world at any time, and to ignore or postpone the main storyline indefinitely.
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@KyleJordanGaming 3 года назад

Ysgramor *invented writing* expressly to “best kill Elves”. Huge foundational cultural milestone out of sheer spite. Like inventing the wheel so you can run over your neighbor’s dog. Respect the grind, man. 👍

@paleriderpalehorse55 3 года назад

Conflict breeds innovation

@TD-ug4mg 2 года назад

Most technological innovations began as a military tool or weapon. Atomic power which is extraordinarily reliable and clean started with bombs, the internet began as a method of communication for the military, computers were made to break enemy codes. The list goes on.

@thalmoragent9344 2 года назад

@MamaWuf Which is pretty over the top, really. Ysgramor didn't have to travel across an entire province in a mass genocidal campaign...

@_BirdOfGoodOmen 2 года назад

Ysgramor was the original Sigma male

@thalmoragent9344 2 года назад

@@_BirdOfGoodOmen I wouldn't say killing scores of innocent people is "Sigma"... the Snow Prince by comparison was a Sigma, he only butchered Atmoran warriors who came to slaughter his people and take his homeland. *F* in the Chat to the Snow Prince, Bethesda one-shot him via random 12 year old girl, since he was too OP to be killed via normal means

@feelinexistence8375 4 года назад

"It's said that atmorans had no agriculture and subsisted of hunting, alone" [Pleased Hircine noises]

@oldtimetinfoilhatwearer 4 года назад

TheNepMan ...except hircine is an elf

@RJLbwb 4 года назад

Neolithic Revolution, how does that work Todd? Moments when it's clear the ESO plot is written by programmers.

@argon2423 4 года назад

Gabe Morehouse Except he’s a Daedra

@Alizudo 4 года назад

Nep-nep

@CKDubbs 3 года назад

@@oldtimetinfoilhatwearer u dumb

@yiasemi 4 года назад

Atmora is the land with space but no time, frozen. Aldmeris is all time and has no space, doesn't exist.

@baronofbahlingen9662 4 года назад

yiasemi Oh shit, that seems pretty valid an interpretation. And Akavir is the future and Yokuda the past.

@SenketsuFi 4 года назад

Mind blown

@SenketsuFi 4 года назад

@@baronofbahlingen9662 blown bits disintegrated....

@fumarc4501 4 года назад

Love it

@jojol.2630 4 года назад

I remember a theory I heard from one of these videos, idk which, where it said that Atmora became frozen in time *because* all the dragons left. Thought that was really interesting

@taylorstratford9717 4 года назад

FudgeMuppet: Hey, it's 1:30am where you're at and probably sleeping. Would you like to watch an Elder Scrolls Lore video on Atmora? Me: YES.

@jaruakijal3128 4 года назад

4:40 PM in here

@rylandboysel6976 4 года назад

Its straight up 5am right now. Drews Witcher 3 content kept me up lol and right as im about to go to finally go to bed, here we are. Im okay with this.

@curcheesegaming8704 4 года назад

5:04 but I'm still down.

@piccoloatburgerking 4 года назад

It's 3 Am right now and i agree lol XD

@austinadams9464 4 года назад

Lmao 515 am 4 hours ago (it’s 915 am here now)

@aqworldshayabusa1114 4 года назад

Perhaps the whole "Nords were born on the Throat of the World by the Breath of Kyne" could be an allegory for the wild's of Skyrim slowly changing the Atmorans into the Modern Nords?

@michaelpettersson4919 4 года назад

Seems like an reasonable allegory. Also that is where Alduin was banished in time.

@Ethereal-23 4 года назад

some say 'Aldmeris' was actually the entire continent before the wars of the Ehlnofey split it appart. So that way it could still be truth, they being born on the Throat of the World with the giants, and then traveled to the land that would be Atmora before the landmass split

@AdmiralAwsm 4 года назад

@D. R. I like that theory. It would give some interesting new theories about the Skyforge and the Lunar Forge.

@AdmiralAwsm 4 года назад

@D. R. The only thing I can think of offhand is that Masser and Secunda are said to be Lorkhan's body, and with the Dwemer's heavy interest in his heart, they may have been experimenting with the power the moons can create as well.

@insaincaldo 4 года назад

And/or the thu'um which could be seen as the final gift to man.

@ronaldmacdonald8667 4 года назад

"And in this way, would the best way of killing elves be preserved." tmw Ysgramor learned to write because he hated elves that much

@joeygb6805 4 года назад

Your profile picture is perfect for this comment

@thorsday121 4 года назад

Pelinal Whitestrake liked that

@dropdead234 4 года назад

The only Good Elves are in chains or have their heads mounted above the fireplace. *Need More Good Elves.*

@user-ys3jq3uf4p 4 года назад

I mean there’s Vanus Galerion and most of the elves in ESO

@KyleJordanGaming 3 года назад

Seriously. Dude pioneered one of the most foundational cultural milestones out of sheer spite. It’s like inventing the wheel so you can run over your neighbor’s dog. You gotta respect the grind. 👍

@sassythesasquatch7837 4 года назад

Its been 9 years and you guys still make interesting Skyrim videos. That's quite impressive

@willramus5228 4 года назад

Sassy The Sasquatch piss in the bottle mate

@NoobMaster-vd3ez 4 года назад

Will Ramus ?? Okay

@oldtimetinfoilhatwearer 4 года назад

Noob Master69 shut up ya fukkin druggo

@willramus5228 4 года назад

Noob Master69 wadareyatalkinaboot

@SanilJadhav711 4 года назад

What is this reply section ?

@MrDarthtelos 4 года назад

Aldmeris is pretty simple, it’s Tamriel. The whole thing when it was in one big piece. That’s why Topal found it and didn’t recognize it. He’s never been there. That would also explain why the Dwemer were already in Resdayn when the Chimer arrived. They never left.

@itsflyde 4 года назад

So Tamriel Pangaea?

@therodyman700 4 года назад

I thought Aldmeris was an after image of multiple time cycles, that is why all continents can be seen in it, because it has all stood at the center before

@AdmiralAwsm 4 года назад

Pangaea is a good comparison. It'd be life if humanity existed back then, and kept looking for the fabled land of Pangaea, but couldn't find where it went.

@oldtimetinfoilhatwearer 4 года назад

Nah, it’s tamriel without political boundaries. It wasn’t broken up in a literal sense.

@valeclaw1697 4 года назад

It being Pangea would make sense with the Atmorans being made on the throat of the World Too, if Skyrim in its entirety was originally part of Elderwood

@siltstrider6812 3 года назад

Atmora- "elder wood" Balmora - "stone forest" Sadrith Mora "mushroom forest" Tel Mora " tower forest"

@paleriderpalehorse55 3 года назад

So what does Herma mora's full name mean?

@siltstrider6812 2 года назад

@@paleriderpalehorse55 had to look that one up easily enough. but his name just means, "woodland man." and is the embodiment of the daedric prince of knowledge.

@barrydalton4743 2 месяца назад

⁠@@siltstrider6812I have a theory that since Nords are based on Norse warriors and Mythology that perhaps Herma Mora might have been intially worshipped as their Odin, being a god of knowledge before Shor became the main deity and Mora was more categorized as a Daedric Prince, the “Woodland Man” that will trick you and leave you worse than before.

@jasondevon481 4 года назад

I know the Nords are frost resistant, but seriously, those outfits would freeze your nether regions in five minutes flat!

@timyuusis3372 3 года назад

How to preserve your seed

@thalmoragent9344 3 года назад

@@timyuusis3372 I mean, preserving your seed doesn't have to mean literally getting your balls frozen, lol! Unless they're so cold they're unbreakable, but then that causes other issues, lol

@kakashihatake326 3 года назад

The cold probably enlarges them

@crazychicSHENA 2 года назад

Nords are snow 🌨️ people there fine in colder conditions.

@CuRSE-TM 2 года назад

Reason #500 to install armor replacers lol

@ezrafaulk3076 4 года назад

Maybe the "frozen bearded kings" Vivec described, and any other proto-Nords that might be frozen in Atmora, are only frozen in a fashion similar to cryogenic sleep, and would reawaken if they were thawed out somehow; I'd LOVE for that to be the case. Who else here likes the idea of potentially being able to play as a race that combines the best aspects of Giants and modern Nords?

@Snairster 4 года назад

The nords were trying to escape from Nazeem, and we all know how that turned out.

@midnightcrisis7566 3 года назад

LMAO

@sethleoric2598 3 года назад

Long ago Tamriel was at peace.. until the Cloud District attacked

@taylorstratford9717 3 года назад

@@sethleoric2598 They don't get around very often

@eye_of_pluto 4 года назад

If Atmorans and Giants have a common ancestor, it's interesting that Giants have ears that are pointed much like an elf, while humans have distinctly rounded ears. I wonder what the reasons are for that. Did they simply become pointed over time? Did the original humans also have pointed ears and that changed instead? Curious.

@Xo-3130 3 года назад

Man and mer share a common ancestor. The difference is due to how they ended up on proto-nirn. The ancestors of mer were able to maintain a stable pocket of society while the anvestors of man were forced to wonder the world. The later found the former and wrre rejectef due to the effects of living in a harsh world that was only semi-stable had begun to alter them. The war that followed destroyed much of the continents and left the man scattered all over the remsining continents while the Mer were mostly confined to the remains of their realm.

@Super50ldier Год назад

@@Xo-3130 The Ehlnofey, the weakest spirits on Nirn.

@Super50ldier Год назад

Humans never had pointed ears, the Ehlnofey were the spirits that became the Human species, Elven species and Beast species.

@kainlockley Год назад

@@Super50ldier the more powerful Elnofey who retained a splinter of a fraction of their Et-Ada divinity [Yffre, for instance, & (in my head cannon) The Hist].

@Super50ldier Год назад

@@kainlockley The God of the Forest and the Beastfolk of Black Marsh.

@natepotis8901 4 года назад

Can't wait for Beyond Skyrim:Atmora Love the Videos FudgeMuppet

@joaquimb4052 4 года назад

It would be a great continent for a multiplayer game with some base and forts crafting, either in a past era or long into the futur.

@choerm 4 года назад

@@joaquimb4052 please don't give Bethesda am excuse for a Fo4 in Elder Scrolls. Mod authors can only fix so much.

@joaquimb4052 4 года назад

@@choerm I'm pretty sure they would fail it anyway

@kaiserkiefer1760 4 года назад

Wirr Ling it would be awesome if it was 100% choice driven and not essential. Like have a system where you can become a count/duke/baron and give you a mega plot of land to build like Fo4 but make it functional and npcs not absolute morons.

@valeclaw1697 4 года назад

Roscrea also is gonna have the animal style religion of the Atmorans, and the people there are more pure viking esque like them.

@frederickstabell3796 4 года назад

Each time he says “hawk” it sounds like “hork” and I imagine some kind of baby horker

@evanblack20 3 года назад

I was wondering what on a horker could be used as fletching lol

@mininitelite9789 4 года назад

1:30am: (FudgeMuppet posts video) Me: “Well Well Well”

@argella1300 4 года назад

I would imagine the ancient Atmoran diet probably being similar to that of traditional Inuit people, where they subsisted mainly on meat and blubber from the animals and fish they caught themselves. Also that their main source of fuel for light and warmth was blubber/oil based

@MetaphysicalBlade 4 года назад

Probably more like the diet of Northern Indo-Europeans, people who lived on now Scandinavia and Iceland, as well as the archipelagoes of Faroe, Shetland and Orkney. Based heavily in fish and meats throughout certain seasons but also allowing for some vegetables in the diet through other season, and of course milk from cows, goats and sheep. Makes more sense that "Nords" are based on the Nordid or Nordic people's than Inuits, yeah?

@callum7171 4 года назад

@@MetaphysicalBlade it makes sense as to why they are so big and tall from that protein and calcium.

@elijahbutcher9522 4 года назад

I kinda figured that their diet was similar to the Yupik Native Americans eating mainly fish and game for the most part and consuming seasonal fruits and other plant matter when available

@spyral1051 4 года назад

Civil War was the reason Ysgramor left and the War was probably fueled by decreased in resources due to increased cold. Must have a lot of frozen dead strong warriors there. Would be terrible if some powerful Necromancer or Daedric took advantage of that. An Undead army invasion would be crazy.

@marcusbergman6116 3 года назад

I heard someone say that Atmora is a land of only space but no time (as it's all frozen) and the old elven land has time, but no space.

@kvproductions2581 4 года назад

this dude here is a legit elder scrolls historian, putting tons of effort into videos like this that are inspiring and super intresting, and he just gets 40k views?!?! come on internet, we can do better, where's that beyond skyrim hype? this video deserves more love!

@coaxb9965 4 года назад

Agreed. Severely underrated

@Kng-hv2qb 4 года назад

For being the first dude able to write Ysgramor is surprisingly eloquent

@jcaldwell543 3 года назад

Intellect and creativity are separate from literacy, just as anger is separate from shouting, one is just a possible expression of the other. Speech was already firmly rooted into Altmoran society. Also, elves are cringe.

@thalmoragent9344 3 года назад

@@jcaldwell543 How are the Elves Cringe? They're not all that bad ya know, and with their magic, society and advancements and such, I mean... Plus I mean, most all the major civilizations on Tamriel were thanks to them, and humans never would've learned to write or have more sophisticated literature if not for them. Granted the Beastfolk had their own thing going on, but much of modern science and tech is thanks to the races of Mer. Sure they can be prideful and somewhat arrogant, but it's easy to see why.

@michaelpettersson4919 4 года назад

Historical fact: Vikings built settlements on Greenland that at the time had a lot milder climate allowing farming in some areas. Then the climate grew colder and the settlements wained when people left for Europe until the last people left during medieval times. Another fact, the local inuits lived when the Europeans came and they are still there. They do not farm and traditionally they survive without much vegetables in their diet by eating raw meat and fish and thus avoid destroying heat sensitive nutrients. This is why carnivores animals do not need vegetables. It is likely that the needs eat a lot of raw meat and fish just as to our oen real world inuits do. This is why they could survive without farming.

@bencam8178 4 года назад

I find the lore videos even more interesting than the builds and guides. It’s crazy how large and complex the elder scrolls universe is.

@something1600 Год назад

I think that your mixing up Bilbo and his Nephew, easy mistake.

@bencam8178 Год назад

@@something1600 what are on about mate

@KhanCrete 4 года назад

Something I love about elder scrolls lore is that it shows that even as a writer you don't have to know the truth about a world's origins (or perhaps allow for several truths at once)

@gerardclarke1001 4 года назад

Cant wait to go there when Beyond Skyrim: Atmora comes out

@piccoloatburgerking 4 года назад

This is seriously the best channel related to Elder Scrolls i've come across. Not a single video made by these guys has ever disappointed me and that's not something many youtube channels have managed to achieve in my books. Well done as always.

@SmoknStogez 3 года назад

"and he shattered the land into many" pangea confirmed in eso lore

@Endo9319 4 года назад

It is possible that the Throat of the World could have once had some connections to places in Atmora, though the land shattered and split into continents that drifted apart. The eastern part of Skyrim and much of Morrowind is also very volcanic and active, so it seems like there could have been a great split. Also, it seems like a society as sophisticated as what existed in Atmora would appear to have had primitive agriculture, at least until the climate really changed. Such a society was also likely quite competitive, and it would not be surprising that rival clans, factions, and holds would seek to gain favor with such powerful forces like the dragons. There is also a bit of apocryphal information on Atmora, and they were known to have cities, a rather sophisticated culture (based on ruins), and skills with magic. It is also possible they had some primitive forms of writing and Proto-writing, as even the giants use glyphs in their camps. Much info appears to have been lost to time.

@Endo9319 4 года назад

It is also plausible that some remnants of Mer and other Ehlnofey remained in Atmora, though they were likely driven into seclusion by Atmoran men and their own desires to live in seclusion. Additionally, it seems quite possible that some of the inhabitants of Atmora lived in mountains, caves, and underground. It is a possibility that Dwemer could have explored the continent as well in their quest for knowledge and power. There are a lot of mysteries to Atmora, and it seems like there could be a lot of power hidden away in the frozen land.

@MegaDuras 4 года назад

I'm thinking that the phrase "Atmora frozen in time" may refer to stalhrim. Whitch would mean that somehow stahlrim started to unconrolably grow, possibly due to a magic ritual gone bad or Stahlrim is in fact crystalized time.

@IrishIronArmalite 4 года назад

God I love this channel, you guys make THE BEST Elder Scrolls videos on youtube, especially your lore videos. We have to come up with a term for “professional Elder Scrolls historians” like... Scrollkeepers or something. For now though, you’re Fudgemuppets. Keep up the amazing work you guys, us lifelong fans will always be waiting for more brilliant work.

@flygawnebardoflight 4 года назад

This man literally stole the concept of literature just to kill more elves

@KyleJordanGaming 3 года назад

Seriously. Dude pioneered a foundational cultural milestone out of sheer spite. Like inventing the wheel so you can run over your neighbor’s dog. You gotta respect the grind.

@seanoneal2806 4 года назад

Okay, this may be a little long but I wanted to share something I'd been researching regarding the Skyforge that may connect with something Scott shares about the Nords being made at the Throat of the World. According to what we know, the Skyforge is very old, no one knows who made it but some believe it was made by the Aedra themselves and that they may have used it to craft.... stuff, we don't know what. We also know the Snow Elves and Dwemer feared the Skyforge and avoided it, but we don't know why (I have some theories about that but that's too much for here). Standing over the Skyforge is a huge eagle, this is interesting because we also know (according to ZeniMax talking about the ESO) that the Ayleids and Altmer considered the eagle to be a symbol of the Aedra, the divines, the same ones some myths hold may have made the Skyforge. What I *think* is that the Skyforge shouldn't have been located at Whiterun, but actually should have been placed at the Throat of the World. But it wasn't because Bethesda may have decided they wanted to use it for stuff in Whiterun so moved it there. But, if it was originally meant to be at the Throat of the World then the name "Skyforge" makes a LOT more sense and if it was made by the Aedra and used by them to forge stuff... like... Nords. Maybe the Skyforge was used by Kyne to make the Nords.

@Alizudo 4 года назад

It's generally accepted that Auriel's Bow was probably forged there, and that it contains primordial magic that is too old to be understood.

@Super50ldier Год назад

@@Alizudo Auriel's bow was created by Anui-El along with Auriel's shield as a gift to Auri-El so he could save his army and children, the Aldmer from the Imperials, the army and children of Lorkhan or Shezarr as he is called by the Imperials.

@sigh1685 4 года назад

I heard "what is the difference between Nords and Mead?" Me: "Milk Drinkers"

@elgatto3133 3 года назад

Milk drinker shouldn't hit as hard as an insult as it does

@killer4kash 4 года назад

It took me a while to realize that you were saying Shore Shattered the land and not Shore Shatted the land. I thought this was like Malacath all over again.

@jimmygunnz5651 4 года назад

I love how Fudgemuppet drops his videos in the middle of the night so they are like little Christmas gifts you wake up to in the morning lmao 😂

@UnswimmingFishYT 4 года назад

The shared ancestry with giants actually makes sense for Nords, because if you look at the general body shape and facial features of a giant in Skyrim, it does have a lot of similarity with a Nord man. It definitely would make more sense to say that these are the same species. Most likely, Atmora had people who were between giant and Nord size, probably a bit taller than Altmer, but very stocky, and over time, various people from this race bred specifc traits, with one group slowly getting larger and less intelligent, and the other slowly looking more and more like current Nords. This would have to mean that Atmora has the skeletons of many generations of people ranging between Skyrim's giants and Nords, if it is the case. as for how Atmoran people have two different origin stories, your explanation seems most likely to me. It could be interesting to have a small game or a DLC with some sort of visit to Atmora to see how things look up there. Archeological digs on Atmora could answer so many questions, even if the whole thing was centered around just looking at the place and digging through ice, it would still probably be good enough I'd buy that.

@Mikhail.Rus.Armiya 4 года назад

I’d love to see an Elder Scrolls game set in Atmora, to see a land very different from Tamriel would be amazing

@mimief7969 3 года назад

I love playing on Atmora in Elder Kings, restoring the shipyards and reclaiming the continent.

@Wexter0083 4 года назад

Cannot wait for Beyond Skyrim Atmora!!! Such an interesting place just waiting to be explored!

@quaronncz464 4 года назад

@Wirr Ling If you didn't play Beyond Skyrim: Bruma than you should, because if you call that masterpiece "fanfiction" than you're just stupid troll

@s7Matt 4 года назад

Wow, guys! Great video! I really love the whole concept of Atmora and its secrets. And I'd love to see Beyond Skyrim - Atmora mod being released soon. It's just that every single piece of content about it is astonishing!

@wastelandwanderer9491 4 года назад

Yay,story time. Got my sweetrolls and nord mead all ready. Awesome channel guys.

@darksteel115 4 года назад

Bethesda should have made the dragonborn dlc take place in atmora not solsthiem.

@hr473 4 года назад

Or the Hearthfire dlc. Becaz this DLC is about home and family and Skyrim is the land of the nord in this era and came from Atmora.

@lilblock3564 3 года назад

@@hr473 But not everyone plays as a nord. Or as a Human for that matter. It wouldnt make sense.

@hr473 3 года назад

@@lilblock3564 Why is this? Of course they can travel through tamriel thanks to the empire and earn a house with doin heroic deeds.

@95Bartlett 4 года назад

I think you got Stuhn and Tsun mixed up. When we meet Tsun in sovangarde he’s guarding a whale bone bridge, so it’d make more sense if Tsun is the whale while Stuhn is the bear.

@Alizudo 4 года назад

No, he got them correct.

@wiibrockster 4 года назад

We need a book or comic set in The Merethic Era. It'd be really interesting if done well!

@jedaye47 3 года назад

The Elder Scrolls Adventures (like Redguard) need to come back imagine a pre-Night of Tears game with Falmeri protagonist leading upto the Sack and interacting with the pre-tyrannical Dragon Cult Nords and Reachmen (who ESO have revealed predate Atmoran colonization).

@4991ukasoy 4 года назад

These Sinewy men of the east, could they maybe be Tsaesci? To the East is Akavir plus with the Elongated aspect much like snakes? Idk just an idea

@HorrorshowEU 4 года назад

Been waiting for this video forever, NICE!

@DasMaggie 4 года назад

Man, I love these videos. You guys are incredible!

@jossiecrowie3133 4 года назад

Watching from NSW Australia, awesome video 👍

@kaibauer-derrick8068 4 года назад

Vic idk why i say

@isaaccgangurr4957 4 года назад

Qld 🤣

@kaiserkiefer1760 4 года назад

I’m watching from Centrelink

@jossiecrowie3133 4 года назад

@@kaiserkiefer1760 watching at work atm lol

@Gyrfalcon312 3 года назад

How have you mad lads not broken a million subscribers yet, with short but high-quality essays like this? Anyway, keep doing what y'all do. This is surely the year to get that gold Play Button!

@dragour8723 4 года назад

It could also help explain the Skyforge a little, the first nords could have created it before leaving Skyrim, since upon their return much later the Nords and Elves didn't know how the Skyforge got there

@DankestOfMoons 4 года назад

Dragour he made a video on it makes more sense for the fight between old el nahfay and the wandering el nahfay to have created the forges of sky and moon

@thevoidlookspretty7079 4 года назад

About the giant thing, I think this important to add that Lyris Titanborn of the 5 Companions had a giant for a mother.

@RobertMalachowski 4 года назад

The giant blood came from the father’s side, Lyris’ mother died because the baby was too large for a normal Nord to carry.

@01mubs 4 года назад

It's awesome you guys are still doing this please don't stop until Elder Scrolls 6

@AxethatGuy 4 года назад

Great video keep it up guys. :)

@AxethatGuy 4 года назад

Just to add very thorough with what material you have to work with absolutely fantastic.

@leventekircsi2335 4 года назад

This is how I interpret the myth. The old ehlnofey that eneded up on atmora split into the giants and the humans, these humans were more like nedes then nords. Atmora's climate was like a continental climate with lush forests teeming with game. The humans had a hunter gatherer tribal society. Then the men owerpopulated as they do and the climate started to cool. The first men who left, who would become the nedes, represent the population at the time, they all were 'weak' like that. Those who stayed fought increasingly desperate wars for the dwindling resources, these wars favored the strong for this the populatin gradually became stronger and stronger. By the time of Ysgramor they have reached a state similar to the nords, but the climate kept cooling. Some sources say that atmora was subject of civil war and the first settlers of Saarthal were fleeing the war, this can be iterpreted as unending tribal conflict for the dwindling resources as Atmora's clime is turning into a frozen wasteland. In conclusion the nords are stronger then the nedes because of the centuries of tribal conflict they participated in for the resources of a cooling Atmora.

@Super50ldier Год назад

Humans are descendant from the Wandering Ehlnofey not Old Ehlnofey. Elves are descendant from the Old Ehlnofey. The Imperials were created from Wandering Ehlnofey in Cyrodiil by Lorkhan aka Shezarr as he is called by the Imperials, the Old Ehlnofey made themselves into Aldmer, Auri-El's children then Auri-El and Trinimac with the Aldmer fought gathered at the Adamantine Tower then at Altmora, Auri-El and his army, the Elves fought against Lorkhan aka Shezarr and his army, the Imperials. Kynareth then created the Nords in Skyrim to go and fight alongside their cousins the Imperials, Lorkhan's children and army against the Elves, Auri-El's children and army.

@AnthonyGarcia-ko6rl 4 года назад

Love your videos.

@elijahbutcher9522 4 года назад

Bro I fucking LOVE!!!!!! you guys. Every time I want some Elder Scrolls lore I come here your videos are outstanding. I can't wait for a video on the Nords and the ancient nordic pantheon. Love you FudgeMuppet love from California

@DamienEbon 3 года назад

I newly found your channel and you do good work, but i will never get over how you say "fudgemuppet" with a straight face.

@andrewnash6698 3 года назад

This is why I love the elder scrolls. The history is so rich and diverse. It’s so easy to get lost in it’s lore.

@AJY-ee7yk 4 года назад

HEY FUDGEMUPPET I just wanted to let you know ive been watching your content for years and I 💘 your work. Its always interestsing to find out more about lore. You should try doing some lore on movies you like. Like Lord of the rings or star wars or whatever you like I would watch it

@DerTovemeister 3 года назад

You guys make me so excited about ES8

@Lavenderlore1043 Год назад

I would love to see a DLC in Atmora in a future Elderscrolls game. Could be a group of Nords who want to see their former home, or perhaps a group of archeologists or sorcerer's who want to study it's history or ancient magics.

@XJonAye 3 года назад

I can't get enough of this stuff,

@billfletcher3966 4 года назад

The original race, the very first on Nirn were elves. I'd like, in TES6 to get a dlc where we get to go to Atmora. The end of the Atmorian dlc we discover a strange metal plate buried deep in a cavern. The metal seems like it was part of a larger piece. The strange metal plate has letter, the letters read "U.S.S. ATMORA"

@HyperShadic0 4 года назад

The first race on Nirn were the Ehlnofey. Both elves and men are descendants of the Ehlnofey. Elves were the first to inhabit Tamriel, but not Nirn as a whole.

@dutchpatriot17 4 года назад

@@HyperShadic0 Argonians, Khajiit and Orcs were the first to inhabit Tamriel.

@Super50ldier Год назад

@@HyperShadic0 The Ehlnofey were spirits that remained on Nirn.

@dagoth-ursbeekeeper9119 3 года назад

As far as Alduin/Akatosh/Auriel, I think of them as three parts or "Aspects" of the same deity. Alduin was the first Aspect, which is The End. Alduin persisted and devoured each spirit world until he was stopped by the conception of Akatosh, The Continuity. It was only with the birth of the final Aspect of Akatosh that history could begin, however, that being The Dawn, Auriel, who commands the sun and time rather symbolically. These three are part of an Aedric Triumvirate of sorts, making up the single god by their three parts, that being Akatosh, the God of the End, the Continuity, and the Dawn, and thus Time itself.

@artemisarrow179 4 года назад

Yay new lore videos!

@adrianstefano8807 Год назад

the way the god destroyed and shatered continents and spawn fresh new man (with different trait )to help existing men against elves sounds a lot like my typical worldbox session lol.

@TheLordmep 4 года назад

It would be neat if we got to visit Atmora in a future DLC for wherever the next game is set.

@yasserxgmx1975 4 года назад

i forget my life when i see ur videos ❤

@Snairster 4 года назад

Fudgemuppet/Camelworks: *Makes a new video* Me: It's a fine day with you around.

@MrThatguyuknow 2 года назад

Dibella being associated with the moth seems like an consequential thing until you consider the Cult of the Ancestor Moth. They literally use the love of their ancestors to comprehend the true beauty of the universe In hindsight just makes too much sense. I can't believe how little credit I gave this god.

@drewcates3749 4 года назад

Need an ancient Atmoran Warrior build to take care of the Thalmor

@Galimeer5 5 месяцев назад

I think it makes sense that, after the creation of Mundus and the subsequent civil war of the aedra, Mara would switch to Lorkhan's side on principle. The ehlnofey who fought under Auriel were told they were created as a consequence of Lorkhan's deception whereas the ehlnofey under Lorkhan were taught they and the world were created as an act of love and benevolence. Which side's rhetoric would be more appealing to the goddess of family?

@Sp0on777 3 года назад

Perfect video I'm about to go clear sarthaal with Erik the slayer =)

@joaquimb4052 4 года назад

Good video

@ridalger16 4 года назад

Can't wait for Beyond Skyrim Atmora...

@nahtoyou3 2 года назад

I had no business laughing as hard as I did at Mara being called "Shor's sidepiece"

@Super50ldier Год назад

Mara is one of Shor's wives in the Nordic Pantheon.

@jacobvargas2622 3 года назад

And maybe there was a type of magic the elves used that kept atmora habitable and the nords being human, were too dumb to keep it habitable because they lacked the magical ability to do so.

@VanTemplar 4 года назад

Damned elves!

@PersonGuy 3 года назад

It is good to know that the red guards come from YouCooter. Very informative.

@Priceluked 4 года назад

I like to think intelligent Frost Giants like Kaarstag live in Atmora.

@s7Matt 3 года назад

I do like to think that Kyne creating the nords would be her breathing the life on their lungs, like giving them the strength to shout. But the idea of Atmora being shattered across the sea is awesome as well. Oh, and perhaps that time when Orkey stole the nords' years is what made them smaller than the giants. Edit: I really wish to see how the deities fill in each of the other continents, especially Akavir and Atmora.

@mambojambo4870 4 года назад

oh boi, here we go again

@oldtimetinfoilhatwearer 4 года назад

Worthy of note that depictions of talos and ysgramor in Skyrim aren’t as big as giants or as small as nords. Could just be that statues are big, but I like to think it’s connected

@loveTREEpoint 4 года назад

❤️missed that voice mate

@jamesfrank2108 4 года назад

Frostbane Wolves, Frostbane Bears, Frost Bane Horses and Frostbane Sabre Cats are an example of what the fauna/wildlife is like in Atmora. That is if you have heard of these creatures.

@_Harvestman_ 4 года назад

The way i see it is that the nords became modern Nords after kyne gave them the thu'um. If she did this on the top of the throat of the world, it could be said that this is how they came from atmora, but were still created on the throat of the world by kyne

@Super50ldier Год назад

Like how Lorkhan aka Shezarr created the Imperials out of nothing in Cyrodiil, Shezarr led the Imperials to battle against Auri-El and the Aldmer then Kyne created the Nords to fight alongside their cousins the Imperials against the Elves in Atmora.

@Ertto54 Год назад

Can’t wait to go to atmora in the Skyrim beyond mod. Even if I don’t have a pc to play it on, I’ll stop at no cost to play it somehow.

@evandxvies 4 года назад

Snow elf theories would be cool

@ovenram 4 года назад

wow fudgemuppet this video is really good! much better than your elf videos at least!

@Operador2281 4 года назад

Man i dont need sleep when i have the secrets of atmora

@wiibrockster 4 года назад

I'd love to see Atmora in it's heyday.

@evilnorman9978 4 года назад

Humans are not singularly descended from the continent of Atmora or the ancient Atmorans. Atmorans were just one type of humans believed to have resided in various parts of the world during the Merethic Era. Places like Akavir, Resdawn (Morrowwind) Tamriel all were inhibited with populations of humans and as such numerous in-game books eludes to this fact. MK hotly refutes this notion of out of Atmora in one of his archived post: Out of Atmora (07/10/08): And for the last time (uh huh), Nedes != Atmorans. That's just shoddy scholarship from a bygone regime.

@Super50ldier Год назад

Nedes and Atmorans are two different human races, the Nedes were created by Lorkhan aka Shezarr out of nothing in Cyrodiil whereas the Atmorans were created by Kynareth's breath in Skyrim at the Throat of the World.

@valeclaw1697 4 года назад

Would you guys make a video about nature themed magic in the context of the Elder Scrolls? I've seen mixed things, some people saying it doesnt exist, but some artifacts like the Totem of Claw and Fang literally referring to nature magic.

@nataliecarrington2550 4 года назад

7:30pm on a Friday. New FudgeMuppet. Friday night sorted! Also, was the last known Atmoran civilisation in the early, middle or mid-late 3rd era? You've stated all 3 in the first few minutes of the video... (sorry to be picky...)

@andrewrauch5807 4 года назад

One thing we have learned from ancient Nirn folklore and writing is that you can NOT trust it. The ancient Nirnians often tended to embellish to make their works more exciting.

@Nocturne_20 4 года назад

Ah I really wish this channel would cover content from d&d a bit

@jamiewalker8493 4 года назад

Fucking love fudgemuppet! Up in 6 hours for work but boy do i wanna pull up skyrim

@Isam113 4 года назад

That's one good looking thumbnail

@DumasHiseki Месяц назад

Wild theory but. What if what would become the eight divines. Fought on both sides? Maybe they had originally fought with Shor. But would betray him in the end which is why he is caught and his heart ripped out and shot across the world? Like it would explain why men and mer would revere who they do. It's just a difference of time. Or it could be flipped and Auriel lost allies, though that is harder to explain considering that Lorkhan gets his heart shot away.