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This video is about installing a Skytrax gear box on a Yamaha APEX snowmobile engine for a Kitfox model 7 SS.
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@albatross9873
@albatross9873 4 года назад
Brett from Webb City here - If your shop wasn't messy it means your not working hard enough. :) Nice vid. Gearbox looks beefy enough. Motor mount turned out nice as well. I'm getting ready to order my avionics and finishing the wings before covering. All the best Bryan. :)
@susanjohnson6754
@susanjohnson6754 4 года назад
Brian, Thank you for this detailed video! Steve Henry just finished building mr a turn key Apex Firewall Forward system. Watching this vid will help me understand Teal’s gearbox for future maintenance. Teal should include a link to this vid as part of his accessories package. Again thank you for taking the time to document your progress. Bruce Johnson Highlander N121FG
@CHELLIE2408
@CHELLIE2408 4 года назад
Hi, An old trick I learned years ago, glue the Gasket on the Gearbox or any part that will go on a engine, only on one side that will be removed with Gasgacinch and the other side of the gasket that will be sealed to the engine with silicone gasket sealer, Reason being, the gasket will stay on the part glued with Gasgacinch, The Gasket will come off completely and most of the time will be undamaged, and will be reusable many times, if glued back on with silicone glue. To Reiterate , the gasket glued on with Gasgacinch is Permanently glued on and does not need to be removed and can be reused if not damaged. I use this trick with my cars when replacing water pumps etc. the gasket stays with the old worn out parts and the engine is gasket free because of the silicone sealer that was used.
@GrantOakes
@GrantOakes 2 года назад
Nice, clean video showing how simple this PSRU is to install. Great job!
@100bjj5
@100bjj5 3 года назад
Thanks for posting these videos. I'm planning on installing an Apex on an Avid heavy hauler and appreciate you sharing your expierence.
@A10Cobra
@A10Cobra 4 года назад
These videos are excellent. I will be doing a similar build with the Apex. I see low mileage Apex motors quite often. I haven’t settled on kitfox or highlander, but the plane will be one or the other. Thank you for documenting your build!
@randallharmsen5802
@randallharmsen5802 4 года назад
The gearbox looks very well made to handle the horsepower. Just a thought that I have used on o rings to keep them in place was grease. Cleans up easy if some oozes out the casing. Looking good Brian. Hey don’t worry about the mess, that happens when your building.
@sumrica
@sumrica 4 года назад
Thanks for the update. Enjoyed hanging out with you.
@markperkins5664
@markperkins5664 4 года назад
Thank you for taking the time to show us how it’s done. Enjoying your build. Keep it up!
@rogerjohnson378
@rogerjohnson378 4 года назад
O-ring split should be at the top of the box dab a little rtv on for good measure.
@kennethperian4370
@kennethperian4370 2 года назад
Nice job Brian showing telling, looking like it will be a great flyer for you. Well see ya next time see ya bye bye.
@brent1041
@brent1041 4 года назад
Awesome! Can’t wait till I’m ready to pick up an Apex and order up my own gearbox
@91rss
@91rss 4 года назад
the laquer thinner at Home depot etc is mostly MEK BTW, but acetone is good, doesnt smell as bad, and NEVER use either without gloves on.
@peterkelly8953
@peterkelly8953 4 года назад
Unit looks very well designed & manufactured. Perhaps the steady bracket bolts could be lock wired?
@mikewelch3903
@mikewelch3903 2 года назад
I like that suggestion.
@07HDFatboy
@07HDFatboy 3 года назад
Why did not put the ends of the o-ring at the top of the gear box, and put a little RTV on the ends? Less chance of a leak.
@davidrobins4025
@davidrobins4025 4 года назад
Excellent detail provided in your installation video. Thank you.
@highlanderfreelancer4553
@highlanderfreelancer4553 4 года назад
I rode the snowmobile that had that engine it was fast ridiculous fast .
@justinninke6405
@justinninke6405 3 года назад
Agreed, had an Apex and really want a Kitfox with the Apex motor.
@hunt4fish
@hunt4fish 4 года назад
Cool, it's coming! Messy shop eh? mans' gotta do what a mans' gotta do...looking forward.....cheers
@charleskuss8538
@charleskuss8538 Год назад
Thanks for making this video. Using a Yamaha engine for aircraft is new to me. One question. Why did you put rags in the exhaust ports, but not the intake ports?? Murphy's Law says that stray nuts, bolts & other hardware has an affinity for falling into the intake system. Very dangerous to leave those ports open.
@NearlyNativeNursery
@NearlyNativeNursery 4 года назад
thanks for the How to mount gear box. You do very good how to videos. I greatly appreciate your putting the time in producing these videos. I Hope to build a Highlander in a few years if all goes well with retirement?
@desertfox3860
@desertfox3860 4 года назад
Very nice, it's coming along!
@av8or971
@av8or971 4 года назад
I have not had a chance to look.. But i would love to know where you source everything needed. If i build a kitfox, i am probably going to afford this way much better, and so that i dont have to research everything that is already done, a detail what is needed would be GREAT
@sierraromeo
@sierraromeo 4 года назад
Surprised the box is not installed with drilled head bolts and safety wired. Is there room to install a 90 degree 1/8 NPT street elbo(for temp sensor) to avoid gearbox removing in the future?
@steveerickson4175
@steveerickson4175 4 года назад
Great Video, with this setup, Apex, Skytrax Gearbox and engine mount from Ken Brown does it fix under the standard Rotax cowl as provided by Kitfox? My Kitfox delivery is still over a year away but I want to get the engine together now.
@BowenAero
@BowenAero 4 года назад
So far it looks like it will fit under the stock cowling.
@johnfife3062
@johnfife3062 4 года назад
The brass rod was a good idea.
@KyleMoses
@KyleMoses 4 года назад
Looking good Bryan!
@slamsshenanigans2296
@slamsshenanigans2296 4 года назад
Dude, I'm excited for you!
@AkPacerPilot
@AkPacerPilot 4 года назад
Awesome! It’s really cool seeing this project come together. I can’t wait to see how the APEX preforms! What’s the total weight of APEX and gearbox? Also what’s the horsepower going to look like?
@BowenAero
@BowenAero 4 года назад
Looking at about 175-180 lbs firewall forward. It put out 161 hp on the Dyno.
@AkPacerPilot
@AkPacerPilot 4 года назад
Project Kitfox thank you, that’s sounding pretty sweet. Keep up the good work!!
@MrJolppy
@MrJolppy 4 года назад
Is there a video of you making the bracket for the Apex motor to fit in the kit Fox because I would like to see that
@BowenAero
@BowenAero 4 года назад
Do you mean the engine mount? I will provide more info on that, but a friend made the mount so I don't have very much video of it.
@maleficentcop2752
@maleficentcop2752 4 года назад
I would have like to see the install of the mount, & mounting the engine... if you have that footage...👍 Really enjoying this build thx for the extra effort in recording it...!!!
@johnkunz2018
@johnkunz2018 4 года назад
I learned a trick in A&P school to keep the motor from turning while you torque on the crankshaft. You remove one sparkplug and insert a length of cotton rope inside the cylinder. When you torque against it the Piston is protected by the soft rope. Clear as mud?
@CurtisDrew1
@CurtisDrew1 4 года назад
Works good as long as you pick the cylinder that has the valves closed on a firing cycle.
@johnkunz2018
@johnkunz2018 4 года назад
@@CurtisDrew1 ya, I forgot to say rotate cylinder towards top dead center. Thanks.
@mikewelch3903
@mikewelch3903 2 года назад
Brian, do you know the engine mount “torque and pitch angles” that your friend designed?
@michaelchauvin7245
@michaelchauvin7245 3 года назад
Brian, I've started on my kit ss7 a few months ago, I've got my 2006 apex engine. Can you tell me if Dave Brown sells any engine mounts like the one he made for you ?
@BowenAero
@BowenAero 3 года назад
Ken Brown and his company is Vector in Reno
@michaelchauvin7245
@michaelchauvin7245 3 года назад
Do you know if it is possible to install an inflight adjustable prop. with the skytrax, from either Duc propeller or airmaster ?
@BowenAero
@BowenAero 3 года назад
It is something we have talked about. The freewheeling in the prop may create some issues
@AaronButte
@AaronButte 4 года назад
Are you planning on including any videos of your covering process? It looks like you're using polyfiber, do you have any opinions on Oratex?
@BowenAero
@BowenAero 4 года назад
Working on that now. The tail feathers are just about done and starting on the wings
@normalname
@normalname 4 года назад
Who built engine mount for you?
@BowenAero
@BowenAero 4 года назад
Ken Brown
@oltimer5544
@oltimer5544 4 года назад
Hey Brian, was there any requirement to grease the inside of the shaft seal when you pressed it on to the shaft? Without lubrication wouldn't the shaft wear on the seal? Stinson guy.
@BowenAero
@BowenAero 4 года назад
It didn't call for any, but maybe a good idea.
@maxsu8795
@maxsu8795 4 года назад
What kind and how much lubricant oil should go to the gear box? Thanks.
@codybrown9998
@codybrown9998 2 года назад
Is that engine mount going to be for sale in the future?
@BowenAero
@BowenAero 2 года назад
It is now from BD Turnkey Engines bdturnkeyengines.com/
@crazyflyer618
@crazyflyer618 4 года назад
Thanks for the video ,it will help the rest of us.Keep them coming. Have you done any weight and balance calculations in regard to your battery being mounted up front rather then somewhere else .
@BowenAero
@BowenAero 4 года назад
The Apex and Rotax setup should be a lousy the same for CG
@mmeyers111
@mmeyers111 4 года назад
That's a lot HP for such a light plane. Will you get it certified for 1320 or 1500 pounds?
@BowenAero
@BowenAero 4 года назад
1550 lbs
@bernardocelerino8856
@bernardocelerino8856 4 года назад
Hi. In your 23:03 time you talk about your engine mount made by Ken Brown. I just want to duplicate your job. You said " Chromoid" is the material? What size? Where did you get the part shown in 8:35 time ? (Is that the full SkyTrax gear box?)
@BowenAero
@BowenAero 4 года назад
4130 Chromoly
@beardedaviator3880
@beardedaviator3880 4 года назад
Have you modified the engine or plan to? If so, what has been done?
@BowenAero
@BowenAero 4 года назад
So far just the electronics and fuel mapping.
@beardedaviator3880
@beardedaviator3880 4 года назад
@@BowenAero Thanks for the info, I just subscribed to your channel. Im very interested in your build because I've decided to do the same build, I'm placing my order for a kitfox sti next month and already located several apex donor sleds. Please keep the videos coming and looking forward to gaining alot of knowledge from you. Also what's your thoughts on the turbo model apex, Thanks Cliff.
@davidkemp1585
@davidkemp1585 4 года назад
How much does the engine weigh with gearbox? Does this make a problem for light sport regs?
@BowenAero
@BowenAero 4 года назад
Just the engine and gear box are about 145 lbs. Firewall forward weight should be 175-180 lbs
@davidkemp1585
@davidkemp1585 4 года назад
Thanks!
@shanenc90
@shanenc90 4 года назад
Regarding your wheel/brake setup, you mentioned in another vid that you were working with someone on a Model IV. Has that project been completed yet? I may be interested sometime in the not-too-distant future.
@BowenAero
@BowenAero 4 года назад
Yes. And I have sold 3 more model IV kits since. Real good results.
@TimberTramp
@TimberTramp 4 года назад
I’d look for a piston stop that will physically block the piston v. Wedging a brass rod in there. Go to a Yamaha dealer and talk to the mechanic and they can help you out
@BowenAero
@BowenAero 4 года назад
Good idea, of course I’m too impatient for that but good to pass on to those preparing to do the install.
@rustusandroid
@rustusandroid 2 года назад
I can find no information on how much this gearbox costs, or where to buy it.
@BowenAero
@BowenAero 2 года назад
It is a SkyTrax gearbox made by Teal Jenkins. I believe they are $3750 now.
@scottfitzgerald5423
@scottfitzgerald5423 4 года назад
Nice! “Subliminal” ending made me laugh.
@VicariousAir
@VicariousAir 4 года назад
Brian, did you mention what you are expecting as far as horse power from the APEX... I'm thinking in 150 - 160 range does that sound about right?
@BowenAero
@BowenAero 4 года назад
Yes, that is about right.
@VicariousAir
@VicariousAir 4 года назад
@@BowenAero in the STOL Drags, isn't Steve Henry running a Yamaha? Are you going to be pretty evenly matched?
@kr6dr
@kr6dr 3 года назад
The brass piece between the gears was a bad idea. It creates a tremendous force pushing the gears apart. The proper way is to hold the ring gear (where the starter engages).
@MarkN-ji9iv
@MarkN-ji9iv 4 года назад
Couldn’t really tell from the video, but did you match the ends of the “o” ring at the bottom of the housing? If so, why?
@BowenAero
@BowenAero 4 года назад
I did. It would be better to do it at the top, but I couldn't get the two ends to stay in the grove at the top.
@robw4ltz408
@robw4ltz408 4 года назад
Just been thinking that.
@mmeyers111
@mmeyers111 4 года назад
What will be the new engines horsepower and how much did the gear reduction unit cost? How does it compare with the Rotax reduction drive?
@BowenAero
@BowenAero 4 года назад
The stock engine with a re-tune of the fuel map, Dyno results showed about 161 hp. The gear box is from Teal Jenkins Skytrax and the cost is $3500. I don't have a Rotax gear box to compare it too, but the Skytrax gear box is built very well and is being flown on a 300 hp version of the APEX and has over a 100 hours now.
@maulanamaulana9373
@maulanamaulana9373 3 года назад
Adres and price??
@michaelsell6928
@michaelsell6928 4 года назад
What is the aprox all up flying weight of the engine and it’s components?
@BowenAero
@BowenAero 4 года назад
Should be about 178-180 lbs. I will let you now specifically when all the components are complete.
@kausirkhan6173
@kausirkhan6173 4 года назад
Yah brother I really following you always and please give me a idea about the gearbox how I collect please tell me this about the gearbox how I fand this gearbox
@BowenAero
@BowenAero 4 года назад
It is from Skytrax
@NickSmith-sx6fy
@NickSmith-sx6fy 4 года назад
What's the link to be able to purchase the gearbox?
@BowenAero
@BowenAero 4 года назад
No website yet, Try Teal Jenkins at SKYTRAX ‭+1 (623) 734-0185‬
@kausirkhan6173
@kausirkhan6173 4 года назад
Brother which engine you install what is the name that engine
@BowenAero
@BowenAero 4 года назад
Yamaha APEX
@АлександрЦыбин-л3к
Tell me how much is the gearbox for the Yamaha engine in your USA
@BowenAero
@BowenAero 4 года назад
$3500
@allywilkeforsenate
@allywilkeforsenate 3 года назад
Couldn"t get the inline fuel filter on my push mower today FML.
@redsrandomness
@redsrandomness 4 года назад
Where did you get your engith mount from?
@BowenAero
@BowenAero 4 года назад
A friend designed it with CAD software and then cut all the tubes with a computer aided mill. It was then load tested to 6 G's. He is trying to decide if it is something he wants to make for others.
@fastmankim1
@fastmankim1 4 года назад
@@BowenAero yeah needed for yg2 yg3 yg4
@acengineer737
@acengineer737 4 года назад
The gearbox looks well made. I hate seeing drive belts on aircraft. Why are you using that engine over a rotax?
@BowenAero
@BowenAero 4 года назад
Stock it has 50hp more for the same weight and has the potential to add additional hp without exceeding the design of the engine. All for a 1/3 the price. Reliability with the examples that are flying seems to be very good. Those are just a few of the reasons. Personally not a fan of Rotax, but that is just me.
@acengineer737
@acengineer737 4 года назад
Ok cool. Got a 80 HP Rotax engine in my aircraft. Think it's pretty built proof. They seem to go on for ever. Worked on a few C42's used for flight training and they have been very reliable. The engine in my last aircraft was a Jabiur so most things are a step up from those. Rotax are expensive mind you.
@Solo_Gaming87
@Solo_Gaming87 4 года назад
Can someone save me some research and let me know where I can find that gearbox.
@marteck319
@marteck319 4 года назад
The gearbox is an elegant piece of work byTeal Jenkins in Arizona. His phone number is 623-734-0185
@TheOutdoorMentors
@TheOutdoorMentors 4 года назад
@@marteck319 can you tell us the cost?
@ra2ja13
@ra2ja13 4 года назад
What engin
@BowenAero
@BowenAero 4 года назад
Yamaha Apex
@wayneyd2
@wayneyd2 4 года назад
What the fuel burn on that engine?
@johnnyonaboat
@johnnyonaboat 4 года назад
how much does the gearbox cost?
@BowenAero
@BowenAero 4 года назад
$3500
@JuanGomez-zj3xb
@JuanGomez-zj3xb 2 года назад
Where can I find one?
@tinolino58
@tinolino58 4 года назад
This video changed my life... delete it before its changes more peoples life!
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