SLAVIC: OLD CHURCH SLAVONIC & BULGARIAN 

But polish "ą" we read as "ou", and it resembles itself to "u". And more - the first word in video "jedinu" was read as "jedin" - without that "u", so what is it for?

STOP ! EVERYBODY STOP ! I understand what is the problem. The russian letter "Ъ" is in fact not a letter, it is just "hard sign". It is because in the past there were many slavic and slavonic words with soft consonants, and if they wanted to distinguish a hard consonant from a soft one, they used this hard sign "Ъ" . BUT WE DO NOT READ THIS SIGN !!!!!! IT IS NOT "u" NOR "ą" NOR nothing else.

​@@marians7364В прошлом "ъ" и "ь" обозначали сверхкраткие гласные, которые перестали произноситься во всех славянских языках. В последствии "ъ" на конце слова и перед согласными ничего не обозначает (поэтому его и отменили на письме в русском и болгарском), а от "ь" на конце слова и перед согласными осталась мягкость (палатализация), которая впрочем в болгарском тоже утратилась, на сколько мне известно. Так что тут нюансы есть.

@@emreakbas3182 I am sure that what you wrote is just some kind of theory from 20th century. But the question is if it was really so or was not. WTF is super-short vowel? It is some kind of invention or contraption of 20th century. Did you see and hear anybody from the 5th century who spoke this way??

It is, in fact, a Russian Church Slavonic: насѫщьнꙑи instead of насѫщьнъ is a dead giveaway

It's fun how all other countries influenced by the bulgarian empire created their own "church slavonic" sounding, but nothing to wonder about, the original "church language" is the old bulgarian from which your languages come from, that's why I as bulgarian can understand the "slavic languages".

​@@amann9963Ну да, русский Отче наш именно так и звучит. Смущает только, что произношение явно чешское, судя по ударениям.

@@invisibl367 When the Russian is country established by Kotrag( Kubrat's son) and Kubrat's other son Asparuh made the new Danube Bulgaria and Kotrag made Volga Bulgaria, they need to wonder why is it even called Russia ?

@@invisibl367 South Slav here: Sorry to burst your bulgarian bubble, but you cannot be MORE Slavic than the people that brought this language to the Balkans. Croats and Serbs are in particular the first slavic tribes to appear in the Balkans in the time of the Byzantine Emperor Heraclius (610-641) before the Turkic Bulgars. The ancient Bulgarians, who gave you their name, were an Altaic tribe and accordingly spoke a Turkic language - Onoghur - which no longer exists today. These Bulgarians have adopted the Slavic language and culture of their Slavic neighbors (which include the Serbs) and NOT the other way around, and you can't really argue with that. The Bulgarians are only coincidentally the first to start the development of Slavic literature and written language - congratulations! Thank you for recording our language as early as the 10th century and for supporting the development of the Cyrillic alphabet, which was precisely adapted to OUR language - the Slavic language YOU adopted.

Yeah, it sounds like a Czech accent to me :D

Lol she used a robotic voice for the Bulgarian part.

Wrong. Old Church Slavonic formed on the local slavic dialects of the Central-Eastern Balkan regions that were not bulgarian since the Bulgarians adopted the slavic language and culture from the surrounding slavic tribes from between the 600´s & 800´s. The first bulgarian rulers Khan Asparukh, Khan Omurtag, Khan Presian...did not speak a slavic language. Therefore it´s wrong to call it "Bulgarian Language" since the bulgarian language was not slavic.

@@JohnnyWalker1077 ...then - was not, but now - it is.

@@JohnnyWalker1077 you are confusing Bulgar language with Bulgarian language, Bulgarians are not Bulgars, Bulgarians are mix of Bulgars, Slavs and Romanizat Thracians, no Bulgarian claims heritage exclusively from the Bulgars, we all are pretty well aware that we are mix of different populations, but this mixture happened in country Bulgaria, and their language was Old Bulgarian, Old Church Slavonic was codified in this same country , and the people who created Old Church Slovonic name themselves Bulgarians.

@@mCURIOS1893 Their language was old slavic and old church slavnoic was created on that base. This language was spoken from the adriatic sea till the black sea. Bulgars got this from their neighbors. End of story.

@@mCURIOS1893 Also, old church slavonic was written / translated the first time by the greek monks methodios and cyrilloc with the local slavic dialect from thessaloniki. At this time thessaloniki was neither populated by bulgars nor this territory has been a part of the bulgarian khaganate.

Пети, девети, десети, these also are used in Bulgarian to represent 5th, 9th, 10th... Първи, втори, трети, четвърти... (1st. 2nd, 3rd, 4th...)

@@dayanbalevski4446 oh damn, that’s also similar to how it is in Russian. I was more referring to the Old Church Slavonic actually

​@@kkuwuraСтарославянския това е старо български , които не се е променил много.

A dialect looks badass? 💀

@@Dreamfyre yes

@@Dreamfyre bulgarian dialect ? :D as you can see in the video old bulgarian is the oldest slavic language

@@JustSlav98 It’s not “old Bulgarian” it’s old Slavonic 💀✋🏻 The Bulgars were a Turkic tribe that got assimilated by the Slavs and adopted the Slavic language and culture so how tf is Bulgarian the oldest Slavic language? Are you really going to claim all the Slavs spoke Bulgarian cause they pretty much spike Old Slavonic lol?

@@Dreamfyre i never claimed that lmao , you can google and see where old Church Slavonic was spoken firstly and you will see if im right or wrong😂 Also google where the Cyrillic alphabet was created and it will say first Bulgarian empire

This is what happens when you learn history from a Bulgarian/Tatar “school” which has more misinformation and propaganda than tiktok lol

@@Dreamfyre meanwhile mõnkedonian schools intentionally double down on foil hat levels of misinformation as to avoid the time traveling CIA conspiracy.

Sure. Saying it´s bulgarian is like when a chinese person moves from China to Great Britain, and assimilates with the english population, takes over language & culture and starts saying: It´s the "oLd cHiNeSe lAnGuAgE" lol.

@@JohnnyWalker1077 Well people who study about the language call it old bulgarian as well. Also when u google about it it says the same. Modern bulgarian is is closest to old church slavonic , can u tell me why ?

the example is wrong because bulgarian were here and they created the alphabet in which half of Europe writes and speaks my dear friend.Bulgarian language...not slavic...there are no slavs as an ethnicity,ok?Judjing by the comment..you are macedonian or something like that without affiliation..

Those are just enclitic definite articles. Once you learn to "ignore" them, Bulgarian is in fact relatively easy to understand. But, ok, I also speak a fair amount of Serbo-Croatian, so I may be a bit biased in terms of "easy intelligibility".

Bulgarian is easy for most Russians, when i speak Bulgarian to a Russian they say they can understand me up to 80% if i dont speak fast.

@@Badookum Russian and Bulgarian have many words in common. But the problem is that the logic of sentences is not clear! My opinion about Bulgarian: "I see the words that the russian language has, but I don’t understand the meaning of the text"

​@@SB-fw3yr The grammar is very different but that fact is negated by the sheer number of similar words. When I listen to Russian I often understand the text and context despite of the differences in grammar. Now, from the perspective of a Russian person listening to a bulgarian it may be a little different as a lot of bulgarians tend to speak very fast and informally, where unless you know the language very well you're gonna have issues understanding. Sounds and words omitted all over the place, random english, spanish and turkish words trying to sound cool etc. But if the bulgarian speaker speaks slowly and uses proper words and pronounciation you should also understand as well as I can understand you.

i am.bulgarian but old.bulgarian is now very close to serbian but thats not a coincidence as serbian originates from bulgarian ...not old serbian ofcourse

Because it's a text to speech voice.

It's въве́ди

@@AnimatedTreasure That's what I said.

@@HeroManNick132 it's въвЕди in the video.

Its AI-generated voice mah guy. This is why it gets the intonation wrong.

​@@jivkoyanchev1998 No it's not, this channel has existed before "AI generated voice" was even a thing. It's just the voice of the person that created this channel.

it's definitely a Czech accent 🙂

bulgarian/makedonian accent too it's different from ukrainian/russian.

Bulgarian (and Macedonian) are the direct descendants of Old Church Slavonic. The language was codified around a South Slavic dialect in the First Bulgarian Empire

They aren't

@@monke3842 en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bulgarian_language Yes they are. Old Bulgarian is Old Church Slavonic. Middle Bulgarian is it’s descendant and modern Bulgarian and Macedonian are it’s descendants

@@koragrobot I'm Bulgarian and I only partially understand old church Slavonic, not enough to call it mutually intelligible

@@monke3842 I thought you replied to me and meant that Bulgarian and Macedonian aren’t descendants of OCS. My bad then. I’m also Bulgarian, and yeah we dropped the cases which makes OCS a lot harder to understand

Yeah, I noticed too. Seems the editing was done in a rush, or there was a last-minute change, but they forgot to change both scripts. Oh well.

Лукаваго.

Old Church Slavonic is definitely south-Slavic, but indeed there was a variant used in Moravia which was heavily infuenced by east-Slavic languages.

​@@toskosyI guess, you meant "Western slavic languages" in the ednd of the sentence. Because Czech and Slovak are western slavic, not the eastern ones.

@@toskosy I mean phonology, not genetics. But in fact, all major Slavic groups, as West, East or South languages seem to be areal groups and not ancestry entities, only small groups are true, like Lechitic, Bulgarian-Macedonian, Sloveno-Kajkavian and so on. Central Slovak, Chakavian or Old Novgorod languages are still unclassified. What about Moravian liturgical Church slavonic? The turn of [g] to [ɦ] is thought to be in the 12th-14th centuries, so, this video shows even later version.

This is pronounced by Czech from Bohemia, Moravian accents and dialects sound totaly different and you can hear it even when person speaks different language. I can hear it even in English that someone is from Ostrava or Moravia region. 🙂

​@@Ghusichthis is your language not Bulgarian bulgarian is a turko-iranic language after boris I lost against great Moravia in the 9th century your nobility forced us to adopt your church and language as well as Cyril and Methodius who were from Moravia we ARE NOT SLAVS the war was about who would control Pannonia

That would be proto-slavic

Sort of, this is the language that Russian, Bulgarian and Serbo-Croatian came from. Ukrainian and Belarusian evolved from Old Ruthenian and Czech, Polish and Slovak from Old Moravian.

@@Badookum old church slavonic is old bulgarian :) it was created during the first bulgarian empire and its only logical why modern bulgarian is the closest to old church slavonic

@@JustSlav98 Nice Zhivkov propaganda once again 💀 It is Old Slavonic you Slav wannabe, you’re not even ethnically Slavic but Tatar. Bro really has a username JustSlav with that Turkic descent 😭

@@Dreamfyre so what? I don't see anyone judging you based on your Albanian & Arab ancestors.

I need a volunteer! :D

@@ilovelanguages0124 I CAN VOLUNTEER IM A NATIVE TWI SPEAKER PLS REPLY ME

Makedonia is first. It's even in the Bible

Bro this language is Macedonian, while bulgarnian is turko

@@IEthereaI 😂😂😂Show me pls, some examples of ur “macedonian “ language in the history…And show me how bulgarian is turkic😂😂😂

Kliment and Naum Ohridski created Cyrillic alphabet in Macedonia 🇲🇰 😊😊

@@IEthereaI en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saint_Naum

@@IEthereaI SAINT NAUM it's not even from the region of Macedonia , he is from Moesia, that's North Bulgaria 😂

@@IEthereaI en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clement_of_Ohrid

@@IEthereaI bought considered by all world historians as Bulgarian, only you guys have history recognized only in North Macedonia.

Romania used Bulgarian language and Bulgarian cyrillic...

You are greatly exaggerating the slavic influence on the Romanian language. It was never 40% slavic. Romanian did not purge the slavic words, many administrative Turkish words were replaced by French inspired ones and also many other words were adopted from french, most of them eventually replaced slavic loan words in everyday speech, but they were not "purged" they are still in the dictionary and very much part of the language. Romanian is not the only language that has adopted many french words, even Russian did that. Is Russian an artificial language? Is English an artificial language? You could say that even Turkish is an artificial language by that logic. If Romanian was so different before the 19th century then how come I can easily understand medieval texts? If Romanian was basically romance influenced slavic then why don't Slavs understand it? And why almost all the words of the earliest found Romania text are of Latin origin? And also, what makes the slavic loan words an integral, natural part of the Romanian language but not the romance loan words?

@@whathappens6877 ✅ Romanians are basically a mix of Romanized Slavs and Thracians with Turkish influence. ✅ Why don’t Romanians like their obvious historical connection to the Slavs and Slavic origin? They’ve been surrounded by Slavs since forever. And Romanians are Slavic for the most part just like their neighbours. ✅ Even Romania’s most famous historic figure had an essentially Slavic name Vlad which is of 100% Slavic origin. It’s a popular traditional name in Russia and other Slavic countries. ✅ Cyrillic alphabet was Romanian’s original script for centuries and Romania did switch to the Latin script some 160 years ago (it’s like yesterday), cause they thought it’s more prestigious, I guess. ✅ Romanian philologist Alexandru Cihak considered Romanian to be a Creole language. In his dictionary of the Romanian language of 1879 there were 20.58% of words of Latin origin, 41% of Slavic origin. ✅ But in the Romanian dictionary of 1931 (I. Candrya, G. Adamescu) there were 20.6% of words of Latin origin, 29.69% of French, 16.59% of Slavic. ✅ What happened is Romanians artificially removed a huge chunk of Slavic vocabulary and replaced it with the French one. So Romanian is an artificially created made-up language. ✅ Romania shouldn’t have let go of its Slavic legacy. It was natural for them historically since they’re Orthodox unlike all the other Romance peoples. ✅ Romania is Orthodox just like other southern and eastern Slavs who surround Romania. ✅ That’s why Romanians absorbed it through Greece and Bulgaria which invented the Cyrillic script as a redesigned Greek alphabet and translated the Holy Bible from Greek. ✅ It’s an integral part of Romanians’ past that couldn’t be just shaken off. ✅ That’s why Romania is historically Slavic, not Latin. It can’t be undone. That’s why all the other Romance peoples (and not only them) see Romanians more as Slavs.

@@alexstorm2749 Bulgaria invented Cyrillic. Greece invented glagolithic. Romanian slavic influence and Cyrillic was ONLY absorbed through Bulgaria...

@@dayanbalevski4446 they spoke romanian, not bulgarian. The old church slavonic was used only by church. Normal people had no clue about that language. That's why old women say " bodaproste" but they have no idea what it means.

old church slavonic - old bulgarian lol , russian language did not exist before old bulgarian

@@JustSlav98 It’s literally just Old Slavonic, the Bulgars adopted the Slavic language and culture from the local Slavs in the Balkans. How can you who moved here from Tatar Volga claim that Old Slavonic is Bulgarian when you’re native tongue was Oghur Turkic? Typical brainwashed Tatar 😂

@@Dreamfyre native language of old Bulgars ( not today slavic bulgarians ) was indeed a mix of turkic + persian(modern iranian) and literally no one in Bulgaria denies it everyone study it in school… for example khan asparuh s name means golden horse in old persian language. But today’s Bulgarians are 98% slavs and the other 2% being iranian which is kinda sad because i would rather have more persian blood than slavic cuz persian were waay better in any way and way more ancient than slavs… the first Bulgarian empire is responsible for the creation of Cyrillic and it says there everywhere where you google or read.. i literally got 4 russian friends that told me themselves that in russia they studied that alphabet and oldest slavic literature originates from the bulgarian empire ( or bulgaria ) so idk if you are trolling or it’s too hard for u to open google or buy an history book? There is literally a video of a russian professor of slavic and balkan history who says that alphabet and language came to russia from Bulgaria… you can find it anywhere and i will send it to u if u want.

@@Dreamfyre There are people named Sclavinians, not Slavs, in the authentic medieval chronicles. According to Eastern Roman Empire sources, the first homeland of the Bulgars was around the Sea of Azov and the Black Sea in 4th century. Again, according to them, the Bulgars split into two in the 7th century, when the Khazars forced them to leave Azov. One group arrived on the Danube and the other on the Volga around 680. The Tatars arrived on the Volga in 1240 and destroyed the much older Bulgarian state there. How can the Volga be Tatar in the 7th century when the Tatars appeared on planet Еarth in the 13th century? Surely not possible unless you're crazy, right? So called Оghur Turkic is a term invented in the 20th century. There has never been an original language with such a name. Bulgars and Sclavinians (Словѣне) in the Balkans have been an indivisible whole for 1200 years, when Bulgars and Sclavinian women married and had children together. Since then, they are called Bulgarians. Bulgarian has been a Slavic language for 1200 years. You are very much too late with your silly propaganda, the work was completed 12 centuries ago in the First Bulgarian Empire. In 893 so called „Old Slavonic”, originally only Slavonic, was declared the official language of the state by knyaz St.Boris I Michael in his capital Pliska. Since then, it has been officially called the Bulgarian language. Read the ecclesiastical lives of St. Clement and St. Nahum, all this is written there. Typical brainwashed Pecheneg, you are over a millennium late, the truth which you are not comfortable admitting, has long been a fact.

@@Dreamfyre the ignorance is very bad illness, no Bulgarian from the Balkans is ever been in Volga Bulgaria, when one part of the Bulgars came from Old Great Bulgaria (located in today Ukraine) to the Balkans, another part move to Volga and establish Volga Bulgaria, to name the Bulgarians Tatars is just incorrect, like to name the Americans Australians. Just blow mining how somebody can be so ignorant.