SLIP TEST - Dacia Duster II vs Dacia Duster I - AUTO & LOCK -  

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There should be other changes (mechanical) or am I missing something? In "LOCK" & "ESP OFF" there should be no software intervation

@@giannisprotopappas3431 "LOCK" & "ESP OFF" means that the engine power won't be cut. But traction control (brakes intervention) remains active.

@@4x4.tests.on.rollers Thanks for the update, Nevertheless I thought ESP intervenes to engine;s power supply and to the brakes. So deactivating should have no more impact on brakes as well. Is traction control another system on Duster?

@@giannisprotopappas3431 ESP intervens to engine power and brakes during dynamic driving when car goes into a skid (understeer, overster), it also cuts engine power when there is slippage during start. Traction control intervens only when there is traction loss during start or at low speeds and it is very often impossible to turn it off. That is very common, not only in Duster.

@@4x4.tests.on.rollers hy guys. I need too buy 3 stk at rollers . Haw and were I can buy them . ?? Please help me ?

Yes, this is the go-to setting on almost every AWD vehicle going offroad (or in deep snow).

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Not at all! It's the best to use a Suzuki Jimny in offroad at that budget. Or even a lada niva. Both are cheaper (sh) than a new duster and waaaaaaay more offroad capable that duster which is a car prepaired to sent your kids at kidgarden with your wife behind the wheel :)))

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@@napraznicul New Jimny is actually slightly more expensive than duster, but on the other hand Duster is universal car while Jimny is covered Quad Bike and in some off road situations duster is better, so not much difference even in that aspect

Vig Haralds These kind of systems are fwd biased, that is the most popular layout.

Vig Haralds wtf you talking about? 95 % of all souch cars are FWD biased

Dani Duster I 1.5 dCi gets the same result as Duster I 1.6 16V. I don't think it would be different in Duster II.

Because haldex

@@1mandas No. Many cars with haldex can easily pass this test.

Thanks. I have no idea of such upgrade is even possible.

Duster doesn't have center differential. It doesn't have viscous clutch-pack neither, it uses electromagnetic coupler.

You write comments but you have aero idea what Duster has. Test onrollers explained it.

Luca Tomasello I'm not sure what you mean. On two rollers it is all quite similar. On three rollers when only one front wheel has grip car works better in AUTO mode. On three rollers when only one rear wheel has grip car works better in LOCK mode.

duszaniespokojna, yes. It seems similar to what I have seen in my car. Onestly Is can't put my car in rollers. My observation is to say that in AUTO mode, the EDL works too. But I don't really understand why the car remains n the rollers in your test. If you can repeat the test you can hear the rear brake closing and opening many times in AUTO mode too!

Luca Tomasello How can you hear that it is rear brake, not front one? ;) I was also surprised that car passed three roller test ( only one front wheel with grip) in AUTO mode and failed in LOCK mode. My only guess is that in LOCK mode systems allows for much more wheel spin (like e.g in Suzuki), what is necessary in many offroad conditions.

duszaniespokojna i didn' heard braking in front wheels

Luca Tomasello you didn’t test your car on rollers. For your information on rollers wheel has grip very close to ZERO if not zero traction.

Thank you, rollers are custom made.

4x4 tests on rollers - duszaniespokojna channel thanks for the prompt response!

Since 2013/2014 (if I remember well) it has traction control and ESP systems.

Datasheet says it is 2676 mm for 4WD version (2674 mm for 2WD), so 3 mm more than older one - 2673 m. I have no idea if it is possible to update the software.

There is no diffrence

Like in intro and description - both 1.6 I don't think that 1.3 turbo would get different result - this test is about awd system itself.

How do you know that amount of torque sent to the rear is low?

Nie wiem, co dealer robi z autami demo, ale nie ma to znaczenia. Na obydwa koła (lewe i prawe) przekazywany jest dokładnie taki sam moment obrotowy i jest on niewielki, tu nie ma żadnych przeszkód, podjazdu czy ciężkiej przyczepy z tyłu.

Gościu pierniczysz jak potłuczony.

And what about it?

That is a standard function of traction control and it works in every mode but on different level. It is not a secret, manuals include this info.

@@4x4.tests.on.rollers Not in the manual , it is not referred , not in the greek one at least

Cristian Cojocaru Hello, they are DIY :)

Ok, can you send me same photos, please !?

@@cristiancojocaru3369 We are sorry, but recently we are getting so many requests about it that we decided not to answer them. However our videos are in full hd, so you can take a print screen from any of them.

Ok, I understand very well. Thanks 👍

Both petrol.

You mean the last test? DD2 could handle the situation where only one rear wheel had grip. DD1 couldn't.

@@4x4.tests.on.rollers ..yes i see but i can´t see what is the reason ...what is the concrete diference between these two dusters ..... is the EDL ?

@@ubipatumbi Different software for EDL and awd systems.

@@4x4.tests.on.rollers ok !!! then is a software difference !!! Thanks you !!!

Yeap, but it is not the same when it comes to software.

Meaning what exactly?!

@@DaciaProject In this case - meaning the software which controls the operation of awd & traction control systems.

Nadrabia geometrią nadwozia i solidną osłoną silnika, a to sporo mniej stresu w terenie. Że o relatywnie tanich częściach w razie co nie wspomnę. Na śliski asfalt z pewnością są lepsze systemy AWD.

I didn't test 1.3 but here is Duster 2 1.6 vs Vitara: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-SBuAkzEWvWM.html

@@4x4.tests.on.rollers But what would be your personal choice. Thanks!

@@2Bad2Real If you are going to stay on road (no matter what kind of surface) then definitely Vitara. If you plan to go offroad often - then Duster. Other factor is reliability - these cars are on the opposite sides of rankings...

@@4x4.tests.on.rollers reliability meaning? Can you expand a little please? Thank you!

@@2Bad2Real Suzuki cars are always on top of reliability rankings, these cars almost never brake. Duster unfortunately has a lot of malfunctions that's why it is on the bottom of reliability rankings.

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If we only find it...

@@4x4.tests.on.rollers haha thanks

This is a test of cars, not the drivers. All they have to do is keeping the accelerator depressed.

Different drivers are causing a different test results. @@4x4.tests.on.rollers

​@@mushupatOn this test, driver is doing nothing except keeping the accelerator steady and waiting for the reaction of the car. That's the idea of the tests.

Ok, explain to me please the rollback on the thrust on Duster I. Thank you. @@4x4.tests.on.rollers

@@mushupat Intervention of engine traction control and brake traction control.

Custom made.

Romeo DAMIAN I still can't find volunteer with Mokka X....

duszaniespokojna , if i’ll come to Poland, i will give you mine car ... ;)

@@RomeoDAMIAN Here it is: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-J903SKUYEXM.html

Dacia Duster 4WD vs Audi Q3 Quattro: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-NQYtqukUZuA.html

@@4x4.tests.on.rollers Weird.what type of quattro is that?

@@STR1XDLB Q3 uses haldex. Here's Duster 4WD vs A4 Allroad with quattro ultra: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-Qdm_0i9EJHI.html

@@4x4.tests.on.rollers Do newer haldex also have LSD on the back or just the front?

@@STR1XDLB They have front and rear open differentials.

Razvan Gogonea Software of awd system is for sure different. ABS/TC sensors/controllers may be different to.

This is frustration, an old and more powerfull and more luxurious Pathfinder would never have this problems, I am willing to lend one of my Pathfinders to the test. One with 1 owner and 100.000km costs 10.000€ from 2007

@@Hi.Al. and is 11 years old... That means you can't trust the car as much as a new one from the point of reliability... Not to mention the categories oo the cars that differ and the engines....

Ravan, mecanica este aceeasi dar partea de soft este schimbata,mai buna, si diferenta se vede...

@Razvan J If you are talking about 2007 Pathfinder, it actually has almost the same awd system as Duster, just in opposite layout, front axle is the "active" one.

fronklin1 W jakim celu?

@napraznicul Where did you get the info about 20%? Indeed these systems are the same from mechanical point of view, software is different.

napraznicul You are writing tens of such comments under different movies, always without any back-up or arguments. Show me the source of that 20% etc.

@@4x4.tests.on.rollersarguments? Watch your video carefully then you'see difference between how torque came when is sent to front and to rear. Then ..if really want to know "my backup", go with these cars on mustang dyno awd with a qualified person for work with that dyno. You'll see there with proper test settings.. if you really want to know, not only to make money with help of absolutely non-technical viewers who doesn't have knowledge not even only theoretical..as you :))). They like to see some results of test and you.. make content as they like :)).. the same way as the dyno testers who ask owner of car.." how much bhp your car have?", then guess what? -measurement result is little bit over that amount of bhp and everybody is pleased :)))

napraznicul Again the same. You are trying to be smarter than everybody, but it looks like you don't even know what torque is. And no back up of course, no sources. How can you see the torque in the video?

@@4x4.tests.on.rollers are you kidding or you're really like ..seems? Torque isn't only the force who push the conrod in combustion engine, torque is also ANY force who move transmission and sent to the wheels. I don't know why ..you look to me like a kid who after reading a few promo papers from some automotive producers, decided it's time to make money on youtube via auto domain :))) I do not write wery well in english, but if you were a romanian language speaker, probably i would put a huge shame on you in a direct discussion.. as from a "specialist" (as you try to look like) and an average man who DID modified (hardware only) himself a lot of cars starting from 2004 :))) But you got a lot of noise in the mouth to keep your "specialist image" clean here, because otherwise the subscribers will be gone, youtube money- gone.. then you'll have to Work for living :))))

@Marios 1 Service? Why?