SLIP TEST vs SNOW & ICE - Toyota Yaris Cross Hybrid AWD-i -  

All slovak testers including Mr. Chvala were very satisfied with this "AWD" system. Mr. Chvala in his video said that he think, all wheels slipping, when the car was sliding downhill. But we all can see his mistake. No one word of disappointment with AWD-i from these testers. This is the first negative test of this almost useless system compared in "laboratory" and real world environment. Result is clear - AWD-i is only marketing trick how to raise sales numbers. Good job and big thanks, 4x4.test.on.rollers !

@@JohnDoe-ti6pd Rasto didn't say any bad word but he couldn't climb that hill, he got stuck. He did it later on by trickery - on a reverse gear.

​​​​​​​​​​​​@@4x4.tests.on.rollers Yes, I saw that and laughed long and loud 😂 But in another test, only Rasto complained on SSY Korando's drivetrain. All other journalists were very satisfied with that car. Based by their false positive reviews I bought that car, then was very disappointed and after 7 month replaced that junk with Vitara. For me all known reviews describe Yaris Cross AWD-i as almost perfect car. But if I bought this Toyota, it would fly out of my garage within a week with supersonic speed :) If I will pay 2000 EUR for 4x4, then I want working 4x4, not some fake toy unable to rotate rear wheels even on the rollers. So again, big thank You for this realistic review of this car.

Thanks. I wouldn't call it "completely useless", although in some situations it really is. I would call it "limited", imho it should be officially called "mild awd".

Provides better recuperation though

@@jasonstathoom5142 Why?

​@@jasonstathoom5142 sadly no

@@4x4.tests.on.rollers it could because the rear drive motor can also work as generator. now to the video: I am still baffled at how bad this performs, I thought it’s the same system as in my RAV4 but this is just hilariously bad compared. Yesterday after three days of rain I took on a quite steep incline which is basically mud and grass with light tracks in it. I was quite certain I wouldn’t make it and would be forced to roll backwards half way up. Well I did stop halfway up because the RAV4 cut off power to an extent that it wouldn’t move on with more than like 2 to 3 km an hour and showed me messages of failing cruise control, VSC, TRAC or Uphill Help, sonar system and pre-collision system. to be honest by this time I also had dirt up on the front hood, windshield, side windows and roof 😊 good thing about this was when I tried to push on I had all of the engine power back and did make it up the incline. On top I wasn’t quite sure how to get down so I just continued on without knowing where I end up and about 50 to 100 m on the systems came back. Except I had no side view cameras because they were covered in dirt also 😂 thinking back about it it was quite a dumb idea pushing the car so hard but I’m quite happy I did it because it showed me the RAV4 can go over it limits and still get you out of such a bad situation. but I also know now that I need better tires with more grip

Thanks!

It's not fake if there is power going to all wheels. It just doesn't put enough to be truly capable.

​@@scott8919it's fake!!! Thats not AWD!!! They're ripping people off!!

​@@scott8919 You're technically correct which is why I don't think there's been a lawsuit yet but it does come awfully close to just being a lie when it comes to practical use of the all-wheel drive system.

@@scott8919 It is effectively fake, as it doesnt give you any of the actual benefits like a real AWD system like Subaru's symmetrical awd or Audi's quattro do, even on dry conditions. Toyota it capable of making this work properly as show by GR-Four yaris, they just stupidly choose not to, rendering it useless and a marketting gimmick in case of those puny crossovers of theirs.

@@scott8919 All it would take is either programming their traction control better or using limited slip differentials or real viscous coupling like Subaru did in manual cars and toyota in the GT-Four cars in the past if they are too lazy to make it work properly with their cheapskate tactics.

Thanks. We will try to make similar video with Vitara but it will be more difficult to find appropriate situations.

as you can see rollers perfectly represent the capabilities of the cars, so can rest assured by the vitara

Thats for sure, but maybe it is a little bit more pro if is also presented in real world.

The current Vitara is an old-fashioned car (2015) with a facelift, but in terms of awd, it is one of the best, it has nothing to do with this fake awd. I have a Vitara AllGrip in the family, of course traction also depends on the tire but where a Vitara doesn't pass, it's better not to try with another traditional car/suv.

Fuel efficiency?

@@4x4.tests.on.rollers i mean yes but why add something that barely works.... They could have just added the drive modes and leave it at 2wd... I think that system needs a rethink. Over here it's a 3300 euros extra...

@@pablomoreno1999 Yes, that's much too much for a system with limited operation. At least you get multilink rear suspension with it.

Rather vice versa

Thank you! Yes, it would be great to test Lexus cars on snow and ice, their systems sometimes are really poor, here's the example on snowy hill: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-wmuBBAeP2G8.htmlsi=ABBYkOW27LL_3gpX

@@4x4.tests.on.rollers so interesting! thank you

Nope, those models have stronger rear electric motors. Here's Rav4: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-Lu1g13ZfvnY.html

I've got a cross country volvo with haldex and it's probably the best awd system

You mean the one from our test or Rasto Chvala test?

Soon 🙂

Rasto Chvala actually did it: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-TYDMEk4yTWY.htmlsi=dHgMt5bEMElwQhiu

Looks like winter or all season.

@@4x4.tests.on.rollers .."looks" but you don't show with any doubt if your're conducting this test with summer tires on snow/ice ...norless why can we be sure youre not de-engaging any system? and finally : are we sure you're testing the AWD model?

@@lucarusso8664 Do you think that such an experienced driver like Rasto Chvala would be using summer tyres on snow/ice in the mountains? Besides - it doesn't matter. Even if they were slicks - AWD system should spin rear axle. When it comes to systems - watch our full test - there all all modes and ESP/TC configarations tested. It also shows that it's AWD.

@@lucarusso8664 Any more doubts?

It will be very difficult to find...

@@4x4.tests.on.rollers the crv 1 gen has same real time 4wd drive

@@masterr9942 So it will be the same as HR-V: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-7JXiHy-sJ44.html

@@masterr9942 gen 1 CR-V don't have the VSA system that brakes the free spinning wheel like the Shuttle does. So, it would not be the same...

You are lucky - in April we'll be testing the 2022 Outlander Sport.

@@4x4.tests.on.rollers that’s great! I asked this because my family bought a 2022 Mitsubishi RVR GT up here in Canada and it feels great in the snow so I actually want to know how much did it actually improved all these years. May have done some power slides innit too lol

@@RadiesRadAutomotives Is it branded as RVR in Canada? I thought this name is for Japan only.

@@4x4.tests.on.rollers yea it’s branded RVR in Canada, apparently in the GT trim we have the full panoramic sunroof with orange LED light stripes along the side, with also have the heated steering wheel, bilndspot monitoring, lane keep assist(just beeps at you when your out of lane), and detects when a pedestrian or vehicle drives behind you when reversing and ofc FCM standard. We also have the AWC badge whilst the outlander sport (In the USA) doesn’t have the panoramic sunroof nor the AWC badge in their top trim. There’s also some features in the top trim of the ASX that are missing the features we have in Canada like the heated steering wheel I’m pretty sure. USA offers the trail edition and ralliart but they are just disappointing because they have the low powered 2.0L and didn’t put the 2.4L. They also have the same amount of features as the lower trims. That’s pretty much my rant on this vehicle.

@@RadiesRadAutomotives Interesting. I had the 2010 ASX with 1.8 diesel engine, it was really nice car. Here's our test of 2013 version: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-VpJX6Be2mUk.html I'm also curious if ten years later it's different, we'll see soon :)

This was Rasto Chvala, very experienced driver testing the car.

@@4x4.tests.on.rollers I realize that and that's not what I meant. I mean the normal Toyota driver.

Here's more: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-b5eypH2m0QA.html

There are two different cars here, both behave the same, they are not broken. Rear motor doesn't have 100 Nm but 52 Nm. And there was Toyota response, it's available on our Facebook page. In short - they said that rear axle won't engage if car is not moving.

@@4x4.tests.on.rollers Toyota's responce is a joke and actually not true. On your another video rear axle engages when both wheels on same side are on rollers, we can see that rear wheel is spinning. BTW, if car is moving then no need to engage rear axle at all.

@@mdx4145 They probably meant engaging with any serious torque applied, not just a few Nm which spin the wheel on a roller. Besides - even on a roller, rear is not spinning continuously, it's disengaged most of the time.

Actually petrol version of Yaris Cross has much more effective awd system. There's no A-TRAC but there are different driving modes also.

​@@4x4.tests.on.rollers there is no awd version off the Yaris Cross that isn't a hybrid, you are probably referring to the Corolla cross which has awd available for hybrid and non hybrid versions. Non hybrid not available in Europe though.

@@dfogapfadfigah5369 There is non hybrid Yaris Cross AWD but it's not available in Europe. I do not refer to Corolla Cross.

@@dfogapfadfigah5369 Here's our comment on both systems: facebook.com/share/p/duD9zLcbJn3cAaej/

​@@4x4.tests.on.rollersok thanks for the info that's very interesting, I never would have thought they made that. It's a shame they never sold it in Europe, it would make the car very capable as it's already lightweight and compact but that crap awd-i system lets it down. Btw you should check the facelift awd-i Yaris cross that just started being sold to see if there are any differences in it's performance.

It's all wheel drive.

@@4x4.tests.on.rollers フロントスリップしたら四駆になるのよ　ヤリスクロスは

@@yatamann2155 As you can see in the video, rear electric motor is too weak to spin the axle and power it by itself.

The video you linked doesn't show much, no hard conditions. But take a look at UX on snowy hill, with the same system, it's a disaster... ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-wmuBBAeP2G8.htmlsi=21ZphxwIKEVxdLOP

@@4x4.tests.on.rollers You expect too much from this system. Read Toyota's description for it. They use very cautious wording and they never say it's as good as "normal" AWD system. It still helps in certain situations compared to FWD. It's up to buyers to decide if it's worth the money. Multilink suspension itself is probably worth more than actual AWD abilities. The rollers may be actually "too soft" for the system. Real world tests are definitely much better, but still show that AWD-i is no match to "real" AWD (rather not so surprisingly, specially in Yaris Cross).

@@SOMEONE-ME What I expect from the system which costs up to 3300 Euro is that it will spin rear wheels when it's needed. But it doesn't do that, sliding backwards on snowy hill with front wheels spinning forward and rear spinning backwards is unacceptable. Multilink suspension is great but it won't help you when you are stuck. And whey it comes to Toyota description - they use the same as for Rav4, including TRAIL mode.

@@4x4.tests.on.rollers Again 3300 EUR robbery as in Toyota Yaris Cross AWD-i. Today, Toyota don't know how to make effective 4x4. Check this - ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-dAuFzzyFklk.html from 05:10 to 07:10. First is Grand Vitara (for India market) with poor NA engine with only 146 Nm, but perfect AllGrip, second is again Grand Vitara, but produced by Toyota as Urban Hyrider with the same technics under the hood and the result is very different - simply Brake Traction Control is very ineffective.

@@JohnDoe-ti6pd But they say it was due to worn out clutch, Toyota was previously on offroad events.

These are only specific situations shown in the video. In general it works but limitations are quite big.

They can call test on rollers "specific sytuation". These are real life situations 🙂.

@@krys8870 Indeed 🙂