Smack's SHOCKING Declaration "The MONEY Is Not COMING BACK" & Reveals A LOT MORE??? 

It could’ve been but greed and shady business played a part in why it didn’t

​@@1hiphopnowdude didn't say it couldn't, he said it wasn't meant to be. everybody wanna get the biggest bag so I get it, but shit like battle rap really ain't made to appeal to the masses in general

@@jrobinson4453 I hear you but again it could’ve. If battle rap could be huge overseas as it is then it could very well do similar here.

Facts. This was definitely a “underground” sport. That’s why AND1 was so litt for so long, they maintained the grittiness & authenticity

​@@1hiphopnowI agree with you, I'm just asking is bigger better for battle rap. you would have to water it down for it to appeal to a mainstream audience. No body bigger than Drake in hip hop and now the question ppl asking is this really hip hop. we get a Cole and Kendrick who become mainstream and are still hip hop, but after that anybody mainstream don't come off as real hip hop. battle rap meant to be raw and unfiltered. making it too big, now you have to worry bout offending ppl and being canceled.

That was literally the downfall of

THIS, THIS IS THE FUCKING REALITY, 10000000% BEST COMMENT.

Trueee #2chains voice

RU-vid wasn’t paying cuz they cut back on the ad revenue awhile back especially for something wild like battle rap

Yo imagine how much yt money he lost out on.

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Holding on for dear life

Got me drinking out the Solo instead of the bottle, nah a mean

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Favors? He been holding all the money that’s why it’s no classics coming from them

Don't forget "At the end of the day".

​​@GranFinale damn you beat me to it lol

U herd

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Or dna tooth

I got rid of the app a few years back. That’s really what they putting on there? Lmaooooo

literally 💯

bout to delete that shit now!! the APP is what caused this issue lol

@@svl6_waynepp445 do they still drop battles on that shit?

😂😂😂😂 not DNA blogs lol

Facts like Jaz rapping about quitting her job because of the money she was getting smh

Surf… did in every face off

True

​@@nychris312omg that brother and him talking about "star power" im like who's a star 🤣 dont nobody know you outside battlerap..dont nobody put you in they music...😂

Facts

Big facts I don't fuck with battle rap no more the best battles was RU-vid drops on God

@@DC-cz2sr I don't care for it anymore either. I never bought that damn app!

That’s exactly that allowed the white man to come and Ruin your thing should of keep it how it was consistent and now u lost your momentum and should make it more inclusive all these gun bars is not it gotta be versatile enough to expand the culture

Smack got greedy and fucked it up that’s on him smfh

@@rjb1987xx yeah bro it don't give the same feel anymore

lmaooo

19 was also great then after that was mid

Far as the money side for the battle rappers the golden era was the caffeine/COVID era but far as for the culture as long as there is good content

FACTS!! It’s not as special as it use to be.

2010-14 for me 15 &16 was decent

negative that covid era actually saved battle rap, this still stuck in that lame hood mentality bozo really didn't know what he had. now he on here crying foh.

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😂😂😂

Lmfaoooo

Smack just learned those words last month.

Roi is Return on investment it kinda make sense to say that there

People ate their own cultural alive

Blame murder mook

The app killed battle rap

That and smack getting greedy saying fuck RU-vid when it’s money here everyone can’t go too the battles he got too cocky dropping battles 2 years after they happen he helped kill it for url

It’s sad because the lane was wide open for battle rap it had such potential to go far, people wanted to see battle rap succeed because it was the last real essence of hip hop but as usual when a blk man touches success he doesn’t think long term or think of taking care of his own

I agree with you fam, the energy is decreasing badly, we need that SMACK DVD energy, when manz was hungry out here

who cares

True facts bro💯💪🏿

Yea once smack started coming out with all these different apps you can watch battle rap on 😂 I started getting lost then all these new niggas started coming up

Even think about it.. since SM2 who are the "stars" that have come out since then .. Roc Twork,.Geechi, EZ... Everyone else avg. and Surf locked up and RIP Pat Stay

Fax I feel like smack plays a big part of that. Holding people to crazy battle contracts. Imagine if tay rock or twork does even 1 battle for ARP smack wouldn’t fw that at all.

To many leagues, battle rappers are spreading themselves to thin, no star presence or originality anymore

"Return On Investment" on the investment 😂😂😂😂

😂😂😂😂Haha yoooooooooo

I mean it still makes sense even when you put it like that. There’s no return on investment for the initial investment 🤷🏽‍♂️

@@DaVinciiiUchiha Stop it.

ATM Machine

Same for me, I started out with Serius Jones VS Big Ace type battles, back when the energy was there

Man u took the words right outta my mouth. Fight Klub was my shit. Then watching mook battle on RU-vid. The good ol days

That still don't entertain me nomore...a money move...no heart in it

because smack took it off youtube.

hell yeah arsonal vs hollow da don ect. when grind time died and king of the dot fell off url was boring 2020-2024

Exactly. I hate that “Ima get booked/paid regardless” phrase

@@MirandaaKbring ya ass to Miami tho shorty

To many leagues, I blame smack for that tho

no cap!

Facts

The demand is not crazy but leagues paying it (RBE) is what ultimately hurt the market

They about to be back to $3000 a battle in a minute. Most battle rappers got regular jobs.

But url got 113 million from caffeine...url fumbled the bag being greedy holding back app battles leaving ppv and letting caffeine destroy they company by having to much control

@@stuckinthe90sThegoldenerafacts

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Money was drying up way before that. The buzz around the sport slowed down. I don’t even watch anymore

​@@cordariusjohnson2601yet. Here you are

​@@cordariusjohnson2601I thought they wrre making crazy money with caffeine. I think there really wealthy and just don't think paying over like 25 a battle is fair. I agree. 25 k for fucking 15 min of work.

Promo for what exactly! lol 😂

Smack didn't do Cassidy versus freeway for a reason bro

Nothing wrong with that. Daylyt made 1.3 off the Roc battle. Thats why he only battled once since

⁠@@plusnew8306😂😂😂 If you think he made 1.3m off that battle. Daylyt is a troll.

@@plusnew83061.3😂😂😂why coz he said it?

@@plusnew8306no he didn’t man stop listening to that lying clown

​@@plusnew8306 please tell me you don't believe that bs 😂😂😂

You could quite possibly be correct

They still ain’t have nothing close to SM2 and that was 20 years ago

It's been dead for a while. Cola and them was holding bootleg parties and messing the money up. 😂😂😂

It will be fine...arp will come back and put battles together we want to see and url will start losing battlers left and right now that the money has dried up cause it sounds like smack doesnt want to pay anymore or what the battlers are used to and arp is not only paying the real big names big bags but he is also paying the underpayed battlers big bags and giving out big looks to people that should have already had them....i havent cared about url for a long time cause the battles are never good anymore and they book terrible battles and reward the choke artists and unprepared people card after card .....url hasnt seemed like they genuinely care about the culture anymore they seem to only care about the bag i wouldnt be surprised if they stop all together in the next few years

I think this is an opportunity for the new talent Can they keep battle rap interesting ? That’s the million dollar question

tbh its missing tsu surf k shine then eazy did some weird shit and left for remy everybody want 100k a battle dam near like yo this shit aint makin enough for that

That played a part too. Honestly they could’ve had 6 events a year and still been on top. That why it’s not too many good battles left.

Or Battlers tried too hard to pocket watch without understanding business and bankrupt several leagues.

@jeffmullins85 YOU AN THE PPL WHO LIKED THIS ARE SLOW 🐌 BATTLERS DON'T HAVE ACESS TO THE BOOKS IF YOU AIN'T GOT IT DON'T PAY IT THAT SIMPLE ....😂😂😂... you dumb if you think beasly would go broke before your EYES

@@1hiphopnowright…ppl try to act like it’s all on the leagues

Now this makes sense. Url be having all these wk ass battle events with wk ass battlers

they been brought it back the past month or two, you're late af

Too late 😭 😂

Jjdd was never a league owner.

​​@@jcc3333but he does own a league tho lol

@@jcc3333is Bullpen not his league?

@southside6093 nope..he been said bullpen was a url scout league..

@@jcc3333 that might be true but he’s still in charge of a league regardless.

That’s a lie… please don’t push that bullshit narrative. The apps was never gonna succeed cuz greedy ass battle rap fans only want free shit. They don’t even support the actual battlers outside of RU-vid views.

Lies

lol wrong

Facts they fucked it up lol

"Fumbled the bag"

They had every chance you could get

Exactly

not holding rappers accountable after a bad performance and still booking them

Facts

You a eater be quiet

Finally someone gets it. Battle rap hasnt been the same since Norbes, one of the few people with business sense and who understands how to build talent, stopped having influence.

@@phillytnoizedumbest shit i’ve read all day smh

​@@greedy8711wait so norbes wasn't bringing talent to url?? 🤔🤔

You the only smart one in these comments 😂😂😂

You saw that ppv % hitman took home from maxout 3 right? 400k, seems like ARP made enough to retire if that's what hitman took home in a ppv %.

Man U crazy .. If yall actually saw how many people watched that ppv you would not be saying this .

@@TLJohns exactly. ARP been talking about nothing but shopping and taking vacations since max out.

Battle rappers have bankrupted all these leagues.. Battlers should have diversified their income instead of put so much pressure on leagues smh..

I knew I couldn't ve the only one. Don't even be caring. We used to be prepared days before. With all the homies. Now it's a wash.

I agree... I aint watched in about a year as well...

Same here shit & also them 2 on 2's killed shit too sadly

Why are we like this guy's? because I haven't taken the battle culture serious in a minute, once upon a time I was damn near obsessed with it

FACT‼️ Same here bro

That boi said it twice lol

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But John John said it’s no money , and arp just retired So now what ?

Wat I thinking

@@6oweLAwait arp retired? Man I been out the loop. I stopped messin with battle rap a few years ago.

@@Ishbikes yeah supposedly he’s falling back

​@6oweLA jjdd wasn't a league owner. He said bullpen was a scout league 4 url

Blame Captain Marketable 🥱🥱🥱🥱🥱👀👉🏿

NOT WHAT THEY WANTED... BUT COULD SEE THE PATH URL WAS TAKING. LOL

Where are all these other leagues at? I thought they were in url necks?

😎 hahah *my man*

That’s what they get for selling the culture to the yt man..

For sure

Cap. A lot of battle they can’t even monetize because of RU-vid getting stricter on guidelines. So a lot of battles don’t even make money off the views like that, which is why they started the app

@@JustPierreMusicSmack inferred it in this video at 1:27 but he’s flat-out said it on several occasions in other videos

​@@JustPierreMusic RU-vid de-monetizes videos for the presence of too many curse words. They can't make money selling ads when the content doesn't bring in enough diverse watchers. They also de-monetize for promotion of too much violence. I say too much because there's a level they allow, but not much.

You getting this info from social blade ? 😂

This accurate

Respectfully he been saying that about battles making sense and money need to be made and not given away

How when ARP is done too?

They took him for granted

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WHO gonna pay for that?😂 Paying for a battle rap tour is nuts

Facts ... 6 figures to talk thru ninjas rounds is wild crazy

Caffeine made them MC’s think they’re bigger than they actually are.

Wait, what? How norbes get half a million?

@Gassaone bigger platforms equal more revenue for the most part ... when dudes seen bigger checks they assumed it was mainly bcuz of them ... Smack ain't have to open up the check book he actually provided dudes with more money then they have ever made ... that's just poor judgement and greed on some of the behalf of some of the artists

@@Ishbikes Dude did a lot behind the scenes and wasn't paid his worth on top of getting hands put on him in front of millions ... if in not mistaken he could've got more but he settled for wat he thought he was owed

the money was never there. sm2 was sponsored by DIDDY(ciroc) few other events were sponsored by Xclusive vodka, then DNA brought that Millionaire dude as investor, and then cafeine. If you notice, everyone who ever sponsored URL, end up loosing money.

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It’s funny how y’all only look at URL 😂 ARP considering retirement you don’t believe him considering that isn’t from what Smack just said about the money in battle rap overall 😂

@@NewWarleans17true.. but RBE just made bank off that last card.. hitman vs will and verb vs ward

@@TLJohnshow u know they turned a profit? What proof do you have to support that claim.. especially, with all those big names that were on that card..

​@@geraldryan4339these dudes dont think. ARP most likely lost a lot of money on that max out card. All those expensive names

@@geraldryan4339 I mean simple math. Besides ARP and the battlers saying it . If they had like 100k people watching a stream that costs 50-75$ , that’s a lot of money . People assuming him retiring is due to lack of funds and not hitting it big with that damn PPV or just being worn out.

That part

Cass vs Mook or Rex would be better

Smack cant pay all them ninjas the bag they gone want, especially the top tiers that left..

“Dude from team Hommie with the glasses” lmao Swave

Once he uses his own cash on the “biggest draws” all other barkers will feel offended he is t doing the same and watch how many interviews come out about how “smack is t fair and he pick and choose who to spend on”

That's not how business works

Facts. Verb is always right

You jealous af

I don't think they are paying $8 a month every month. Maybe $8 when a bunch of battles drop them cancel they're subscription. Only ppl watching every battle is bloggers that make money talking it or ppl with no job still living with their mom

@BigBankViralTikTok bro I'm pretty sure there are a lot of people who are still subscribed paying.. I haven't went gym for the last 6 months but still paying haha I don't think people are that bothered to keep subscribing and then making new accounts and then subscribing every other month that's too much hassle

This is a great point. That’s almost 2 million a year. Where is that money going?

@bosskobe they pockets and they don't wanna pay anymore more than 40 so the top tier artists are gonna force themselvs to ask for less than that or else they gonna keep booking these new battlers for $800

That’s not a lot of money. To through and event with battlers costing 2-20k themselves. Venue, hotel, transportation. There is a lot that goes into it honestly. They have to pay ppl who work for them as well..

seems like u D1kk riding them

Exactly that part 👀👍🏿🔥🔥🔥💯💯

How much should Smack get paid? He the reason why the talent is getting paid

You prolly never brought merch, barely been to events, barely buy Ppv & don’t even support battler outside of free RU-vid views 🤦🏾‍♂️

The fans don't support. Unfortunately the fans treat battle rap like a reality show and not a sport or cultural entertainment worth investing in. Battle rap in other countries literally have arenas packed of fans that bought tickets and did more than debate they pov on RU-vid. The "fans" are to blame.

@@GinessyKaigeits hard to support with all the drama, beefs, bad performances,having battles nobody asked or wanted to see, etc . People don’t have 8 hours to sit around and watch below average events

Not excited or happy. We just don't gaf. Life will go on.