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Small Class Tuning & Open World Reward Changes - War Within Beta Update 

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@skarb5797
@skarb5797 3 месяца назад
"not too much to talk about" proceeds to yap for another 16 minutes. that's why he's the GOAT
@d4mephisto
@d4mephisto 3 месяца назад
yapnos the goat! we
@xzalean
@xzalean 3 месяца назад
that's good tech 🤓
@williamcolgin1987
@williamcolgin1987 3 месяца назад
"Opportunity to do anything" instead of "Obligation to do everything" should a dev mantra at Blizzard.
@PendlayRoe
@PendlayRoe 3 месяца назад
12:00 This is an amazing change. Probably my favorite of all TWW changes. Being forced to do a 1 hour cooldown event like the Superbloom to get Veteran gear really sucked. Those events will also be more fun if you are doing them when YOU want to, especially when you have a lot of alts. The stress of completing these weeklies will definetly go down for a lot of casual players.
@painfullyavarage4316
@painfullyavarage4316 3 месяца назад
4:40 that choice node change is huge actually for m+, that's the node that is a choice between ray of frost damage and ray of frost AOEing. Having both makes ray a hard lock for m+ builds most likely, only downside is ray really doesnt interact with any hero talents so it could end up being kinda out of place rotation wise
@Sundagar
@Sundagar 3 месяца назад
it defo feels bad atm in s4 not taking ray of frost for m+, it's such a strong nuke on ST and now we can use it to cleave regularly in TWW
@sashan6683
@sashan6683 3 месяца назад
Enhancement still can't play the Totemic hero talent as it's still trying to replace WFT but is no longer able to. Great to know they're listening to the feedback that we aren't able to give them.
@daniellucas5522
@daniellucas5522 3 месяца назад
Not a priority in the week or two leading to prepatch compared to the base talent trees. They've got another month and a half to fix bugs in the hero talents, they've got like 2 weeks to make sure the prepatch is playable.
@thelastspectre8141
@thelastspectre8141 3 месяца назад
Agree how can people test a spec or hero talents when the main ability is disabled....Imagine playing colossus arms and not being able to use demolish because it's disabled and the whole hero tree is based off it
@daniellucas5522
@daniellucas5522 3 месяца назад
@@thelastspectre8141 Nobody can test totemic on the PTR because the PTR doesn't have hero talent trees.
@thelastspectre8141
@thelastspectre8141 3 месяца назад
@@daniellucas5522 I was talking about the beta
@PendlayRoe
@PendlayRoe 3 месяца назад
@@daniellucas5522 good point. Hero talents don't need to be finished for quite a while
@ChaosKnighta
@ChaosKnighta 3 месяца назад
Funny thing about the Enhance Elemental Blast revert - they never actually nerfed EB, they somehow nerfed chain lightning by 25%, so this patch they basically "reverted" nothing :D. They did fix/remove the chain lightning nerf though this build
@lovelywaz
@lovelywaz 3 месяца назад
Thanks Mathnos for calling the nerfs to Arcane Mage last week 🤭🤭
@michaelb9683
@michaelb9683 3 месяца назад
Every week tons of mages changes, rogues totally ignored
@MeekoEdits
@MeekoEdits 3 месяца назад
that’s right, they should’ve ignored mage and focus on rogue
@zenith_journey
@zenith_journey 3 месяца назад
Try DH. Has even LESS than rogue
@albingrahn3191
@albingrahn3191 3 месяца назад
@@zenith_journeyIs that the same dh that got a complete rework not so long ago and became very very good?
@PendlayRoe
@PendlayRoe 3 месяца назад
Frost Mage Spellslinger hero talent's gameplay is horrendous and basically hasn't changed at all since beta launch.
@jamesjohnsoniii8068
@jamesjohnsoniii8068 3 месяца назад
The rework rhat happened at the same time as tge rogue rework? Ya ​@@albingrahn3191
@Experimentx33
@Experimentx33 3 месяца назад
For the players who care about the end of the expansion meta achievement, it’s super nice to work on these open world events as they come out.
@Euphonium1021
@Euphonium1021 3 месяца назад
Just a quick clarification cc procs were based on mana spent in DF but are changed to be based on damaging spells in TWW not the reverse
@Xynth25
@Xynth25 3 месяца назад
Love Marksmanship basically getting all of its changes in one go...and none of them actually did anything to fix the core problems of the spec.
@drakedbz
@drakedbz 3 месяца назад
Can you make a video discussing what the first two weeks are likely to look like for folks that do medium to high end-game content? Just trying to understand what level of time commitment I'll need to put in this time around (in part so I know how much time off I want to take).
@delenko3364
@delenko3364 3 месяца назад
@Dratnos I think these are the pre-expansion notes (I.E. 11.0 ptr notes that was dropped today). We haven't seen the ptr notes for beta. yet
@tiagopassarela
@tiagopassarela 3 месяца назад
7:25 I completely agree with you here, I think every dps spec should have some form of AoE baseline spell/skill regardless of talents. Take Warlocks in beta for example, all specs have to take Implosion, Seed of corruption, Rain of fire no matter what build you are making so why not just make all three baseline for each spec and instead put another talent in place of the aoe spell?
@scientistbird
@scientistbird 3 месяца назад
Wonder how consistent they will be with patches. Imagine them adding the .0.5 and .1 open world event thingies like we've had in dragonflight that all had their own currencies and that were all... of varying engagingness. I would be surprised if they went "this is just another optional way to engage with the rewards, you may continue doing the same stuff as before and will get the new rewards too". Usually, they would put a new currency on their new content to make it unavoidable (for world content players) to still go to the new stuff 50+ times.
@malthus0016
@malthus0016 3 месяца назад
what the hell is going on with rogues? most of the hero trees havent even had a first pass....
@endofexistence2149
@endofexistence2149 3 месяца назад
Rogues have had changes every patch cycle they are just in. Stealth so you can't see them. My rogue is on the bench for dk priest and maybe surv hunter.
@joelhodoborgas
@joelhodoborgas 3 месяца назад
Bliizard have a few prefered classes and neglect the rest, just like in diablo 4.
@thatepicwizardguy
@thatepicwizardguy 3 месяца назад
yup, dark ranger also just... sitting there with no changes being horrible
@endofexistence2149
@endofexistence2149 3 месяца назад
@@thatepicwizardguy hunters as a class are eating good though. Rogues not so much and probably not until mid way through twwi
@zuralani1
@zuralani1 3 месяца назад
I know how you feel. Believe it or not, demon hunter has actually had fewer changes than rogue this whole alpha/beta lol. It's hard not to feel bad when every week you see nothing for your class and a book for the same 3 classes.
@kylebb96
@kylebb96 3 месяца назад
Why are these notes for PTR and not for the Beta build? That makes no sense to me.
@danhonks6264
@danhonks6264 3 месяца назад
Clearcasting is on a function of mana spent on live too - For every 1250 mana consumed (0.5% max on live) you have a 1% chance to get clearcasting. We probably have enough clearcasting stacks anyway but removing excess is good. Having infinite clearcasting would make arcane very broken. Unfortunately these nerfs feel like they're just hitting everything so hopefully this doesn't completely kneecap arcane
@Daimyo-
@Daimyo- 3 месяца назад
Less clear casts, less missiles which now do less damage and generate less arcane charges. You'll feel it in the dmg meter but also in the rotation. It'll be a lot more arcane blast/explosion orientated once again.
@Shadowfolds
@Shadowfolds 3 месяца назад
Thanks for reading that big blue post cause I sure as heck didn't want to
@Spanakopitaa
@Spanakopitaa 3 месяца назад
In Dragonflight, some of the Chest events were most often bugged and they have not fixed them yet, which is a major red flag for TWW knowing that similar events will exist.
@Karashote
@Karashote 3 месяца назад
moonkins in shambles
@ephemerisone74
@ephemerisone74 3 месяца назад
and arcane is still gigabusted op ooper dooper strong. dw, tuning is not finished. the nerf will come. the buffs will come. they won't and can't really leave it like this.
@Daimyo-
@Daimyo- 3 месяца назад
@@ephemerisone74good joke
@Alex-RS91
@Alex-RS91 3 месяца назад
​@ephemerisone74 you can apply this comment to any expansion in like last 14 years. Every time someone gets screwed and someone is very strong.
@ephemerisone74
@ephemerisone74 3 месяца назад
@@Daimyo- time will tell. But I'm 100% going to be back here when it does happen
@ephemerisone74
@ephemerisone74 3 месяца назад
@@Alex-RS91 ahaha. Usually yeah, but it's never this bad. Arcane simming about 1.25 mill ST dps when other classes are around the 750-900k mark. 4% of that 1.25 mill is tier set. It's a bunch of legit BUGS making the damage that high. Boomkins are on the opposite end of the spectrum simming legit tank damage.
@Zikkar
@Zikkar 3 месяца назад
That isn’t a beta update that is the a PTR update. It is clearly labeled as such
@painfullyavarage4316
@painfullyavarage4316 3 месяца назад
Is this the weekly beta build? Surely not, its not listed as a beta and is on the wrong day. Weird that it's listed as a ptr build instead when the changes it's doing are the exact stuff happening in the weekly beta build
@daniellucas5522
@daniellucas5522 3 месяца назад
Tuning is mostly done on both the PTR and beta servers each week - sometimes one gets hotfixed and not the other, but the other gets those changes in the next weekly build. Weekly tuning on the Prepatch PTR will be done on beta as well.
@Zikkar
@Zikkar 3 месяца назад
It isn’t. He titles wrong that is a PTR update not beta at all. But it’s Dratnos so not surprising he is wrong.
@Emzrogue
@Emzrogue 3 месяца назад
RIP Rogues
@amartian2
@amartian2 3 месяца назад
Dratnos looking like a dad in this one
@DrBlocktopus
@DrBlocktopus 3 месяца назад
Hello dratnos our name is everybody
@OmegaSoypreme
@OmegaSoypreme 3 месяца назад
Wow, thanks blizz. You totally saved enhancement with this update 🙄
@davidw.5984
@davidw.5984 3 месяца назад
Finally 😁
@Gumblethebear
@Gumblethebear 3 месяца назад
There is zero way this is a release candidate..... so many specs are broken, untouched, and failing.
@beerfoot
@beerfoot 3 месяца назад
You think that when they say release candidate they mean TWW release candidate....don't you?
@Gumblethebear
@Gumblethebear 3 месяца назад
@@beerfoot Prepatch should have classes in mostly working order... they aren't
@aaronlewis4266
@aaronlewis4266 3 месяца назад
While arcane is getting a bunch of notes each week, the current version of the spec has some hyper degenerate gameplay. I'm talking spamming arcane barrage with no charges because it's the best way to get clear casting. Arcane base abilities are too weak and this would lead to our hero talent tree doing 35+% of our total damage.
@hory121
@hory121 3 месяца назад
Fury warrior without meat cleaver 😭7:00
@GreenPheonex
@GreenPheonex 3 месяца назад
yippee dratnos!
@aahansen82
@aahansen82 3 месяца назад
LOL, YT is offering to translate your comment to English for me. :D
@UpperMoon95
@UpperMoon95 3 месяца назад
Pls blizzard rework Havoc DH hero talents. Horrible playstyle so far :(
@Magdelia
@Magdelia 3 месяца назад
still waiting on the massive retuning of enhancement
@arcane3419
@arcane3419 3 месяца назад
Im not playing frost mage blizzard so stop nerfing the other two specs
@Etzlo1
@Etzlo1 3 месяца назад
this is prepatch, not tww
@peterschruff3055
@peterschruff3055 3 месяца назад
Nice shirt. :)
@d4mephisto
@d4mephisto 3 месяца назад
RIP ARCANE :( sadge In truth tho, most changes are fine. I just dislike the aether attunement change, but I can prob live with it lol
@Daimyo-
@Daimyo- 3 месяца назад
High voltage nerf is the biggest. It means you cant just missiles barrage missiles barrage like a boss. We're going back to arcane blasting and exploding
@wm-wl8ws
@wm-wl8ws 3 месяца назад
still no DH changes WOOOOOO
@Kngkat
@Kngkat 3 месяца назад
The only changes I see coming are aldrachi reaver nerfs
@Mentok211
@Mentok211 3 месяца назад
No love for prot paladin still? Holy single target getting nerfed with no compensation to buff our AoE? Alright..........
@Joker_wild
@Joker_wild 3 месяца назад
Augmentation dodging nerfs again.
@DiegoVelayarce
@DiegoVelayarce 3 месяца назад
Is not that small 😢
@eq2imora
@eq2imora 3 месяца назад
Still nothing for priests. Sigh.
@DrChill-eo4dq
@DrChill-eo4dq 3 месяца назад
in the end the only fun thing in this game is gonna be exclusively on PTR and then everything that's fun on PTR will be made to be overly complex/clunky on LIVE and people will quit as soon as the new poe league starts
@MegaNever2010
@MegaNever2010 3 месяца назад
Is it weird that im kinda happy with the Arcane nerfs, despite having been an Arcane main for 6+ years? I have a friend who wanted to play Arcane purely because it was doing absurdly high damage, and was probably gonna be super meta, but with all the nerfs he's less likely to, which means we wont have 2 arcane mages in all our m+ groups. I just have issues with 2 of the same spec in a small m+ group of friends.
@Daimyo-
@Daimyo- 3 месяца назад
If you've been an 'arcane main' (seriously who 'mains' a spec instead of a class) for 6+ years you are a turbocasual and your opinions on performance don't matter.
@MegaNever2010
@MegaNever2010 3 месяца назад
@@Daimyo- Ok, oddly rude comment aside, Mage main then, with a heavy focus on Arcane, ive played the other 2 specs a good bit too, but Arcane is where im most comfortable. I also wasnt entirely giving an opinion on performance, outside of being glad it might not be super meta, due to having a friend who's a surpreme meta chaser, and i dont like the idea of having 2 of the same spec (maybe even class) in the same small m+ group of friends i run with. As for being a casual, probably? Its honestly alot more fun than you'd think to not push for the absolute highest of content, im happy in my 2.7k io range.
@Daimyo-
@Daimyo- 3 месяца назад
@@MegaNever2010Nobody's stopping you from enjoying the game at your level. That said there's layers to all of this. A spec becomes meta if they got over the top damage on top of good amounts of cc and survivability (and a raid buff). If the damage sucks they won't be meta. Therefore the only thing required even for you to stop arcane being a meta spec is the DPS getting nerfed. Blizzard didn't only nerf the DPS, they killed the flow of the rotation and the mobility of the spec and made it clunky instead. That benefits neither you, me, Venruki or professional raiders. It also doesn't benefit the haters of the Mage class. All they want is our DPS to suck, but they don't win anything extra if our rotations feel like crap to play. Maybe this helped to explain myself a bit.
@Lionelhutz-attorney-at-law
@Lionelhutz-attorney-at-law 3 месяца назад
Came here because Max is still playing the weeb game.
@beerfoot
@beerfoot 3 месяца назад
Hey folks. Just a friendly reminder that TWW is 44 days and 21 hours away...so blizzard will probably look at your spec before then....
@joshshepherd5734
@joshshepherd5734 3 месяца назад
Demon Hunters are in such a bad spot and just totally ignored! But hey mages get their 8th change of the beta! Smh just get rid of the class at this point
@UltimateGamerCC
@UltimateGamerCC 3 месяца назад
talk about overdramatic...
@Daimyo-
@Daimyo- 3 месяца назад
Nobody cares of DHs. Just keep clicking that eye beam, you'll do dmg.
@joshshepherd5734
@joshshepherd5734 3 месяца назад
It's obvious ppl who have been ganked by a dh lol go look at any DH creator content and you can learn something!
@leowulfjenkins
@leowulfjenkins 3 месяца назад
buff moonkin
@Critirus
@Critirus 3 месяца назад
really bad changes
@apointtomake1517
@apointtomake1517 3 месяца назад
Yea, don't want to give out the "awesome" vet gear until the season starts... total joke.
@iamme625
@iamme625 3 месяца назад
Still no decent changes for feral. I guess the 3 people that still play this unloved spec are gonna have to spam every video and post like all the shaman complainers did in order to see any changes
@martinmp19
@martinmp19 3 месяца назад
Wdym feral is fun
@Dilllll26
@Dilllll26 3 месяца назад
I’ve consistently seen people saying the feral tree is great, tho the class tree sucks ass
@Zikkar
@Zikkar 3 месяца назад
This is a PTT update not the beta one
@svarog8253
@svarog8253 3 месяца назад
rogues ignored once again? nice blizzard
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