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Here the Rig Doctor builds an über compact pedalboard utilizing the Boss MS-3 multi-effects and programmable MIDI switcher. This rig packs a BIG punch despite its small size! See all materials used in the description below. Subscribe here: / vertexeffectsinc
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@VertexEffectsInc 5 лет назад

One of my favorite rig builds to date! This small rig packs a huge punch, and I believe the future for many guitarists for easy to travel, compact rigs, that don't sacrifice on TONE! Thanks for watching and be sure to subscribe, like, and comment! Subscribe here: ru-vid.com

@BrizzleRocker 5 лет назад

Can you clarify how the MS-3 is powered please? According to the specs it requires AC but the CS7 only has DC outlets? I can't see the wall wart so have you changed anything?

@terrymiller111 5 лет назад

@@BrizzleRocker 9vdc 500 mA output on the cs7

@VertexEffectsInc 5 лет назад

Terry Miller correct

@matthewkuttruff3045 2 года назад

Thank you so much for showcasing the MS-3 here, Mason! My head has been spinning lately weighing pros and cons of different MIDI switchers, multi-effects units, etc. trying to minimize tap-dancing as the singer and sole guitarist in my band. The MS-3 seems like exactly what I've been looking for!

@VertexEffectsInc 2 года назад

It’s definitely a cool option!

@jacobpittman1996 5 месяцев назад

@matthewkuttruff3045 Hello- did you end up doing the switcher; it’s 2 yrs since your comment. I led congregational singing with my church band first with Moen GEC-9, then Boss ES-5. It was a lifesaver - one switch for multi-pedal changes from chorus to bridge, intro, verse, outro, etcetro… :-p. I would love to hear what you got to work for you.

@TheFeelButton 5 лет назад

I love how concise your builds are. Nice work!

@VertexEffectsInc 5 лет назад

Thanks for the kind words! Be sure to subscribe for more content like this!

@SocksworthRiffs 5 лет назад

Owning an MS3 was the single best and easiest thing for me for the same reason, I only use a couple other effects a few times, and my drives are the hardest to get right digitally. Having presets with different drives and effects that I'm familiar with is just amazing.

@VertexEffectsInc 5 лет назад

Agreed!

@garthkirkcaldy3808 5 лет назад

Great-sounding build. I like the "best of both worlds" approach.

@VertexEffectsInc 5 лет назад

Us too! It was a great rig!

@theGIGINIband 5 лет назад

that's literally the perfect set up. I would just change the analog effects to my choosing but other than that I'm floored

@VertexEffectsInc 5 лет назад

That’s the beauty of it! Throw in the pedals for your style and you’re off and running immediately!

@braxal6983 5 лет назад

Thank you Mason. I appreciate all you are doing. You are a wealth of information.

@VertexEffectsInc 5 лет назад

Thanks so much for the continued support Braxal!

@pablohernandez1989 5 лет назад

I have been using the MS-3 for about 7 months. It allowed me to get rid of half of the pedals I had and I was able to scale down my board. The built-in effects are great (especially the modulation, in my opinion)! Even the drives and distortions are really good! Only tone freaks would be able to tell it’s digital! I love that it allows you to build a board like the one in this video. I really want to get mine set up professionally...

@VertexEffectsInc 5 лет назад

Hope this video helps you get your rig dialed!

@Pokey7317 5 лет назад

I remember watching this video AGES ago and thought it would be nice to have a SMALL board that can do a wide variety of styles. I watched again and again until i had the confidence to build it. I just wanna say thanks for inspiring me to try and build a board myself, since i have always used a POD HD500X for all my tones. I would love to send you some pics of what i did, maybe you could give me some ideas on what i could have done better. Thanks again and keep up the good work

@VertexEffectsInc 5 лет назад

Omg!! Thank you so much! This is the exact intent for doing these videos! So glad it helped!

@aabilla808 5 лет назад

Aloha, from Hawai’i! I have been following your videos for the past couple of months and I’m blown away! Thank you for sharing your wisdom dude! Your knowledge and resources have really been helping me out 😃🤙🏻

@VertexEffectsInc 5 лет назад

My pleasure! Thanks for watching and please be sure to subscribe!

@antonychliaropoulos5581 5 лет назад

My current pedal board is also based around the Boss MS-3. I’m using two of the loops for three drive pedals (Friedman BE, Keeley Super Phat Mod and Keeley Bender Fuzz) and the third loop passes through my amp’s effects loop which I can activate at will or in any of the presets. Super versatile and I use the Boss FS6 for two more switching options and my Dunlop expression pedal mostly for volume control but I also use it for way from the MS-3. Extremely easy to use as well. Thanks for always keeping it fresh and showing all different kinds of builds. Cheers and rock on!

@VertexEffectsInc 5 лет назад

Antony Chliaropoulos thanks for watching! Hope we earned your subscription!

@antonychliaropoulos5581 5 лет назад

Yes. I am a subscriber! Can’t wait for the next vid. Cheers from Montreal, Canada!

@VertexEffectsInc 5 лет назад

Antony Chliaropoulos amazing! Thank you sir!

@Grant_Ferstat 5 лет назад

Those Boss effects may not be my ABSOLUTE favourites in every case but this is a very very pragmatic solution for a live board.

@VertexEffectsInc 5 лет назад

Grant Ferstat agreed!

@JDAfrica 3 года назад

Ordered an MS3. Now have to figure out what drives make the cut. In your opinion, should I put any extra drives or boosts before or after the MS3? Things like subtle drives like the original Blues Breaker or something like The Dude

@guitareagle1330 3 года назад

@@JDAfricaid put boosts and light ods before the ms3- for example, a reverb probably wouldnt sound as good as with a timmy set to medium low gain after it. Those pedals often strongly color the sound so keep that in mind. Just try everything.

@HomesickMac 5 лет назад

Thanks very much Mason! This was one of the videos that inspired the planning for my new smaller pedalboard. The MS-3 will be mounted on the Temple Audio Design Solo 18 GM and I'll have an EV-30 is just like here. Only the Truetone CS6 will be mounted underneath ...then some three analog pedals in the loop and ini the end a JamMan Express looper. Getting all the stuff soon..

@VertexEffectsInc 5 лет назад

I’m so glad it helped!

@runatn2537 5 лет назад

Awesome , THE NEXT LEVEL GENTLE-BOARD .

@VertexEffectsInc 5 лет назад

RUN ATN Thanks for watching! Be sure to subscribe to stay tune for more good stuff!

@rbkmusic9307 5 лет назад

Wow I would like to say this is a perfect pedalboard on its own right....loved it 👍

@VertexEffectsInc 5 лет назад

Thanks for watching! I hope we’ve earned your subscription

@coachcleats13 5 лет назад

Love the science of this channel

@VertexEffectsInc 5 лет назад

Coach cleats hahahah

@DanAffortunato 5 лет назад

If you watch this video with your eyes closed it sounds like Jonah Hill is narrating it😂

@zeevshaff 5 лет назад

Dan Affortunato hahahHa

@VertexEffectsInc 5 лет назад

He is! Haha

@rodrigozamo 5 лет назад

Love the MS3. For a while I have thought of (I am rigless at the moment, had to sell it all for money reasons piece by piece) having my new rig to be just a Morley volume/wah 2 in one mini, the MS3, a wampler dual fusion and a Friedman BE OD, all powered by a strymon ojai. It all fits in a pedaltrain metro 20, I already did the excercise at my local pedal shop that sells all the top level effects (Guitar Gear in Mexico city if you are ever around, also in Monterrey and Guadalajara). Give me a clean amp and I have all the sounds I need. Of course you get a controller and that is nice, but I was mostly impressed by a few things. Compressor, gave a fair fight against the Carl Martin I used to own. Phaser, equally as good as the EVH phase 90 I had, and chorus, way better than any other chorus I have heard, comparable to boss's own waza craft CE2 and that is saying something. Those are the most critical analog effects that are hard to recreate digitally with the right feel. This unit nails all of them. This isn't the GT engine, or the COSM engine they were using in the past, this is a new monster on par with the Fractal Helix and Kemper products in terms of effects. Plus, you can sacrifice one of the loops to use for the amp's fx loop. So on loop 1 I would put the dual fusion and just change between drives or stack them manually, it's still going to be within reach. Loop 2, the Friedman BE for all the high gain stuff, Loop 3, my alp's Fx loop to split some fx in front, some after. And it also has the control out jacks for say changing your amp's channels or built in reverb. So no need for the RJM mini amp gizmo I used to have for that job using MIDI from my past controller (one control OC10), it's now there. Put a small patch bay to route everything conveniently on the side and it's done. Definitely I'm more and more convinced on the MS3. It really is beyond what you can expect from what you think you know about multi fx pedals. And this is from a guy that spent lots of money on single pedals trying to get THE tone when now it's all here on this unit out fo the box. And delays and reverbs, I come from an Eventide timefactor and strymon blue sky. I won't be missing them either with the ones built into this unit.

@VertexEffectsInc 5 лет назад

🔥 🔥 🔥

@joshthomas6219 5 лет назад

Came here to see pedals , left a fan of jules leyhe.... I don’t need a slide to sound like derek trucks?? Woooooowwweee😍

@VertexEffectsInc 5 лет назад

Joshua Thomas yea, he’s amazing!

@Zenpointmediastudio 11 месяцев назад

Great board build! For small rigs like this the ms3 shines in its deep CC control - I’ve found some tricks to run even more fx in the same patch (so don’t have to change patch=delay/reverb cut offs) using one button as a swap for FX1/FX2/MOD1/MOD2 effects type if you have a FS7 switch you can have 8 fx options on 1-2-3-4 where you previously had 4. I have a DEEP DIVE video series for the BOSS MS-3 including getting extra FX within one patch, and striving for strymon (big verb patch). Here is playlist: ru-vid.com/group/PLcpqei2Jc9BHSgTZ8tzmAvmahCGGaigC1&si=fxo6su9cJs-Yn6M1

@Lobberzillo 5 лет назад

I used to have like two chains and 10 pedals on my board, but it had a bad touch sensitivity, maybe because the capacitive effect or the multiple chained pedals. Then, I reduced my pedalboard to simple Mxr Dyna Comp, Mxr Micro Amp, Fulltone FullDrive 2 Mosfet and a Empress Echosystem. I use also a two amp rig, with a Xotic EP Booster at the end of the chain for a Fender Custom Deluxe Reverb '68, the another amp is a Vox AC15C1. Both amps play well along together, and with an isolated power, the touch sensitive during the playing is really good.

@Holtenstein 5 лет назад

My board is based off an MS-3 too. I have it set up for stereo. It switches channels on 2 amps and controls the Specular Tempus via midi with a tap tempo too. Highly recommended. The MS-3 isn't without its quirks but it definitely it a big step forward.

@VertexEffectsInc 5 лет назад

It’s a really good way to go, and there’s lots of alternatives if you don’t want to use the boss. There’s also the line 6, and the TC like Tronic units as well

@LightWingStudios 5 лет назад

If this is the rig of the future how can it exist now and if it exists now it will exist in the future.

@zacharynorman397 5 лет назад

My mind is blown...

@VertexEffectsInc 5 лет назад

LightWing Studios as the norm - not exception

@benjaminfeddersen7937 4 года назад

Why you would have a Boss Tuner and a Boss Reverb on a board with the MS-3 is beyond a mystery.

@VertexEffectsInc 4 года назад

You’re talking about on the original Pedalboard?

@VERBANDTREM 5 лет назад

This is awesome! I love a small neat board, I was looking for a strymon flint, but might go for something like this to get the job done.

@VertexEffectsInc 5 лет назад

It’s a great option if you want the best or both worlds!

@michael_caz_nyc 5 лет назад

Gorgeous Pedalboard. The Perfect Size. Mason your Videos are Priceless. How is the Throw on that Boss Expression Pedal? ( smooth throw? any dead spots? ) Need one for my DD-500.

@VertexEffectsInc 5 лет назад

You can customize it to fast, long, and a few other variations which is super cool!

@DanielGutierrez-vq5uq 5 лет назад

Like always bro!! 💪🏽🔥

@VertexEffectsInc 5 лет назад

Thanks for watching!!!

@moosemuseum1853 5 лет назад

Super nice rig!

@VertexEffectsInc 5 лет назад

Michael Ferreira Thanks for watching! Be sure to subscribe for more great content in the future!

@rafito1280 5 лет назад

That MS3 is such a great piece of pedal. I works great as a stand alone unit but when you use other pedals in the loops it kick ass!

@VertexEffectsInc 5 лет назад

Agreed!!!

@TomTobin67 5 лет назад

I've got an SKB PS-8 pedalboard and it works fine for me but the pedals seem too heavy for the lightweight plastic.

@VertexEffectsInc 5 лет назад

Tom Tobin, we recommend Get Off My Case custom pedalboards!

@DmitriSkif 2 месяца назад

Yess, I grabbed BOSS MS-3 a month ago too. Best controller to add FX section and switch the amp same time. I just added Wah and booster to get my favorite sound any place I used to play at.

@Ston247 15 дней назад

I love mine. I'm kind of retired, but it's still one of my all time favorites.

@markpoole635 10 месяцев назад

Wow, Love the efficiency of this board. I built a similar setup based around the MS-3 but with a couple of Source Audio mod pedals. I have been very pleased with the versatility and sound of it. Much appreciated! Mason, really appreciate your passion, commitment to great products/services and desire to teach others! One quick question: what is used on the guitar sound during the play off of this video? Love the depth of Reverb as well as the tone. Very Eric Johnson like…🎸

@swordofhonor2 5 лет назад

This is a great video. It is the future to mix a multi effect pedal with other single effcet pedals. Would you be able to make more videos like this explaining how it can be done and best ways to do it?

@VertexEffectsInc 5 лет назад

We are here, what now? Can you be specific on what you’re looking for that’s not here already?

@swordofhonor2 5 лет назад

Just so tips on how to integrate them and actually make and amp simulator sounds decent...

@dicoplus4167 4 года назад

Hi Mason, tnx for this video. I bought the same switcher and exp pedal. I noticed you are using both Exp 1&2 , I'd like to know what they are controlling respectively. Tnx in advance.

@VertexEffectsInc 4 года назад

There is a dual expression pedal on the board.

@peterschaefer1665 Год назад

The CE-2W emulation in the MS-3 is so good that I could not tell the difference and just ended up selling it the Ce-2w

@cometodolly 5 лет назад

Shit hot playing !

@VertexEffectsInc 5 лет назад

Nick Blow I guess that’s good!

@cometodolly 5 лет назад

@@VertexEffectsInc Very Very Nice :)

@VertexEffectsInc 5 лет назад

Nick Blow 🔥

@yjmsrv 5 лет назад

What about a case for the pedalboard- it's cool that you're making custom sized boards- but kind of useless without a gig bag or flight case that fits it...

@zacharynorman397 5 лет назад

I purchased a Pelican Case for this board.

@VertexEffectsInc 5 лет назад

yjmsrv What Zach said above!

@rfuza 5 лет назад

The MS3 is the best gear I ever bought in terms of money vs functionality. Superb built quality, nice size and sounds good. Even the overdrives are totally usable. If he A/B the TS pedal with the MS3 emulation he will be surprised.

@VertexEffectsInc 5 лет назад

Renato Chagas Fuza I would agree with that! It’s well worth the price of admission in the options that it gives at the size that it is, is a major plus!

@chriskozub8012 5 лет назад

This dude is way better than that John Mayer copy cat kid you roll with

@VertexEffectsInc 5 лет назад

chris kozub which cat 🐈?

@terrymiller111 5 лет назад

That guy's playing is on par with any famous blues guy I have ever heard.

@VertexEffectsInc 5 лет назад

He’s great

@peterschaefer1665 2 года назад

The Boss MS-3 really is a gamechanger! I wish they would also make a rack version with a "midi in" as well.

@VertexEffectsInc 2 года назад

Could be cool!

@mattrockjm 5 лет назад

Dude .. insanely Awesome... thx for your time ...that helps me tremendously...peace

@VertexEffectsInc 5 лет назад

Turnitup444 I’m so glad! Be sure to subscribe and stay tuned for more content like this!

@Chacusam 5 лет назад

great video!!! i really want to try the ms3

@VertexEffectsInc 5 лет назад

jorge samudio thanks for watching! Be sure to subscribe for more like this in the future!

@Pasko12 5 лет назад

Hi Mason! Love this video, I was waiting for this one!!! :) How come you didn't go with the high-wire?

@VertexEffectsInc 5 лет назад

So glad you like it! Nothing wrong with that device, back it is my favorite buffer of readily available varieties. Unless you use it inside of a loop, you can’t program separately easily the input and output buffer. And although the boss buffer is not as good sonically you can program it in any way possible based on the presets, and with the katana on all the time effectiveness of the output buffer is nullified.

@AMLoweMusic 5 лет назад

this is my favorite type of content for your show... guests, gear, and tones with pro-level problem solving! NICE

@VertexEffectsInc 5 лет назад

Thanks so much Tony!

@erikavery8083 5 лет назад

The MS-3 will be the basis for my new Bass Board.

@VertexEffectsInc 5 лет назад

Sweet!!!!

@eddiejuarez 3 года назад

Got my Ms3 since 2017.. it change my (gigin') life haha.. with an Expression pedal you can do ANY gig you need .

@VertexEffectsInc 3 года назад

yes indeed!

@j.c.f.m.2486 5 лет назад

Hybrid setup. Getting the best of both worlds. I have a somewhat similar setup (analog & digital)

@justraaay 5 лет назад

I almost always have my clean boost (either Katana or EP Booster) turned on first on my chain, so I’d almost hate to waste a loop on it... does the MS-3 take a boosted signal in its input okay?

@VertexEffectsInc 5 лет назад

Seems to. I don't recall any funny business.

@roadshowautosports 4 года назад

You’re great and i respect your methods and admire your discipline! Awesome build! Thank you for sharing! One question i have is about the cables, why did you favor the 2524 pre-made cables instead of making custom as you do the patch cables? Is it still a better choice? Great solution in a small format! Thank you!

@VertexEffectsInc 4 года назад

2524 Instrument cables or patch cables? I made all the patch cables here from 2319. I'll often buy pre-made 2524 Instrument cables from Rainwater Sound in Atlanta, GA because my price for the raw materials of Neutrik ends and 2524 is more than what it costs for an assembled cable - and they do great job on assembly.

@elgwapo77 5 лет назад

Could you recreate this identical pedal board, with at the pedals and wired, and shipped to India for a price?

@VertexEffectsInc 5 лет назад

El Gwapo I’m not your guy, but you could inquire with XTS or others that make their living at building rigs exclusively - I knit build one or two of these for fun in my own time and really are intended for teaching on the channel. If you need more referrals let me know.

@markegan5949 5 лет назад

I love the MS-3 but bank switching can lead to issues on dark and/or crowded stages. Thanks to the magic of RU-vid I’ve configured it to bank via an external FS-7 connected to CTRL In 3/4. Just a suggestion

@VertexEffectsInc 5 лет назад

Mark Egan switching presets or pages!?

@markegan5949 5 лет назад

. Anything that required depressing two switches at once, I found my big hoof could accidentally click both and send me on a wrong path

@VertexEffectsInc 5 лет назад

Mark Egan gotcha a can’t you program it so you have a single up/down ?

@Sasketchejuana_man 5 лет назад

Wouldve likes to see one of those small expression pedals used, to make room for another pedal

@VertexEffectsInc 5 лет назад

fawbak. Cool thanks for the feedback

@juliencarnevale2712 5 лет назад

Inspiring stuff Mason, seriously well made vids! Keep it up

@VertexEffectsInc 5 лет назад

Julien CARNEVALE Glad you like it! Be sure to subscribe for more like this

@Okla_Soft 3 года назад

I have a Boss ME-25 multi FX unit that’s probably 10 years old or so, and it has the COSM modeling processor in it, and I’ve got several boss compact pedals (ds1, SD1, bd2 etc) and I’ve a/b’d it versus the real thing, and it’s almost identical save for some level/tone control differences. It must have some type of chip that is able to recreate their own circuits.

@VertexEffectsInc 3 года назад

Those are cool...I know a lot of folks dig the earlier Boss processors.

@Okla_Soft 3 года назад

@@VertexEffectsInc heck yeah man, the more I get into gear and pedals the more I love Boss stuff, I’m thinking about getting the MS-3 loop switcher next. Great video !

@swordofhonor2 5 лет назад

Very cool vid

@VertexEffectsInc 5 лет назад

We are here, what now? Thanks for watching! Please be sure to subscribe so you can get more like this in the coming weeks!

@ihellspawn 5 лет назад

would a gator G-TOUR PEDAL BOARD SERIES Small Pedal Board fit this build with a pedal raiser?

@TimOost 4 года назад

Assuming the pedals in the loops will always be on, would you consider adjusting those pedals to do away with the switches? Making some sort of custom case(s) for those pedals with just the knobs would safe so much space and weight. Great video and I really like this pedalboard!

@wilfredjbrimley 4 года назад

I think Pete Cornish used to do that. He would remount all the circuit boards, knobs and LEDS into a single custom enclosure and get rid of all the jacks and move the switches to the front.

@worshipguitarjapan 5 лет назад

Cool video dude!! I used to think all digital pedals were unreliable but can see the best of both worlds here working perfectly.

@rodrigovegetal8923 2 года назад

Amazing video! Helped me a lot!! MS3 really looks like a game changer for saving space and not spend a lot of money!

@VertexEffectsInc 2 года назад

Glad you dig it!

@tjnugent62 5 лет назад

Did he end up without a dual buffer on the board in lew of the dirt pedal or is the Katana buffered? I am curious his reason for dropping the Dual Buffer.

@VertexEffectsInc 5 лет назад

The Katana is always on and he preferred the sound. Sizing was also a concern.

@kurt8263 4 года назад

Mr Rig Dr., I have not been watching your channel too long but it’s amazing! From observing, I can see that your countenance and vibe is so chill.. it actually helps me learn the way you go about your videos.

@gregoryheidt1851 4 года назад

For boards of the future, I would guess new individual pedals should have a wireless midi controller for complete setting adjustment. Kind of like my tc nova drive that has presets via hardwire midi. Complete parameter control is the key.

@Siranonim 5 лет назад

Why even bother making a classic pedalboard like this when you can just use something like fractal fm3 + expression pedal?

@VertexEffectsInc 5 лет назад

Siranonim - totally! Let’s all shower with raincoats on while we’re at it!

@oldgoattheantichrist3468 5 лет назад

Really depends on what you want and what your needs are. I have an analog pedalboard, but I got tired of hauling the heavy amps or relying on the (Hot Rod Deluxe) the house usually has. I saw John McLaughlin using a Seymour Duncan Twin Tube to go straight into the house and I started doing that. Eventually the tubes in the SD crapped out. Fortunately for me that was when AX8 came out. For a few years I used the AX8 and analog pedals into my ENGL but, that rig sucks to fly with. Nowadays I just use the AX8 straight into the house. The audience doesn't know the difference. I picked up a Headrush 2000 watt monitor, pretty simple stuff to travel with.

@Hearthmusic 5 лет назад

Great video!! My only question is regarding the guitar interface you built. Is that only so you can expand to stereo in the future, or what exactly is the main point of having that extra piece of hardware? Only asking because I own an MS3, an OD, delay and 1 other and really trying to incorporate these others with the MS3. Also own a Bigshot ABY to run 2 amps, but its already too many cables etc..Curious on the functionality of the interface.

@huuss 4 года назад

So I'd be happy to know if we can connect it to an amps' fx loop (for internal effects) while external effects comes from direct input and controlled by MS-3 (which they should be connected to loops of pedal also which has 3 loops )

@VertexEffectsInc 4 года назад

You can, but you need to sacrifice one of the loops

@huuss 4 года назад

@@VertexEffectsInc thanks for the reply sir and for video also :) my last question does it have good quality effects ?

@pinoychannel1 5 лет назад

I hear Eric Johnson at the last part...nice!

@VertexEffectsInc 5 лет назад

wendell magtalas old Star Licks!

@134SASAKI 5 лет назад

I love Mogami cables. I believe that the Mogami 2524 is almost identical to a Custom Audio Electronics cables, such as a capacitance. I also like using the 2534 for guitar.

@VertexEffectsInc 5 лет назад

Pretty sure 2524 is what uncle Bob uses on instrument cables, pretty sure it's 2319 on the patch cables.

@peterschaefer1665 Год назад

Love the Boss MS-3. I hope Boss updates with a newer more powerful version. MS-5? With the addition of "midi in" so it can be used in a rack as well

@TheGrahamSnyder Год назад

You cant run midi pedals with the es5 ?

@AshRavens Год назад

Boss MS-5 would be a GAME Changer. Or even an MS-3 with a dedicated amp fx loop. I dislike the fact that I have to sacrifice a loop of the only 3 available if I want to do 4-cable method

@Kaoson73 5 лет назад

Only 3 loops and able to harness dozens of necessary pedals?? Wow!

@VertexEffectsInc 5 лет назад

KAOSON yes indeed!

@crazkurtz 5 лет назад

Or just buy a pedal train and standard pedal cables. It’s not as complicated as this video makes it seem. It dose look great though.

@VertexEffectsInc 5 лет назад

I wish you the best !

@crazkurtz 5 лет назад

Vertex Effects thanks, you too.

@slickcross 5 лет назад

The guy could of done the board on his own. He only has 4 pedals lol.

@VertexEffectsInc 5 лет назад

slickcross totally

@zacharynorman397 5 лет назад

@@VertexEffectsInc you aren't suppose to agree with that...you are supposed to say "no way, that was totally money and time well spent for a one of a kind build."

@VertexEffectsInc 5 лет назад

Zachary Norman no sense is arguing with someone who’s perspective is based entirely on speculation of an alternative based in hindsight that only retell the exact reason you came to me. You did try this on your own already - and yet still brought it in to be streamlined and consolidated among other factors. This was documented in the video extensively. Ultimately I’m beholden to you as the customer - so the only opinion I care about is yours ;)

@zacharynorman397 5 лет назад

@@VertexEffectsInc Well said. I was only kidding brah. I love the board. Let's do a follow up vid sometime!

@VertexEffectsInc 5 лет назад

Zachary Norman ❤️ yes! Looks like we’ll have to!

@michaellouisaustin4276 4 года назад

Great video. I’m wondering if you would ever do a video on how to setup the midi between boss ms3 and an H9 to program presets?

@VertexEffectsInc 4 года назад

Good suggestion

@tomquirk5974 4 года назад

I second this suggestion!

@Matthew_Scan 2 года назад

I’m thinking of getting an Ms 3 I have a GT 100 but it takes up a lot of real estate and on only has the one loop, plus I don’t really The amp models

@VertexEffectsInc 2 года назад

Sounds like you talked yourself into it :)

@Matthew_Scan 2 года назад

@@VertexEffectsInc yeah I’m running a mish mash at the moment, a GT 100 with a H9 and couple of pedals all on the one loop, I don’t use the amp models. I’ve got a specially made pedalboard with a riser it sits on by Caseman here in Melbourne Australia, don’t know if you’ve heard of them? , the guy does a good job, but he’s a bit of a weirdo Covid hypochondriac when I picked it up off him 😆

@Reyvil777 5 лет назад

Nice commercial

@VertexEffectsInc 5 лет назад

ANGEL REYVIL you give us too much credit

@Reyvil777 5 лет назад

No I'm for real, just ordered one for me lol

@tastjohn1889 5 лет назад

Can you recommend me what kind of dc pedal power that i should use to power up my 18v pedals to my 1spot CS 6 power supply?

@VertexEffectsInc 5 лет назад

Truetone is great

@tastjohn1889 5 лет назад

Can i use this kind of cable Voodoo Lab PPBAR 2.1mm Straight Barrel Cable To connect it to my mxr stereo chorus (18v) from 1SPOT CS 6? I wonder if this cable can be use to the 9v output or 12/18v?

@VertexEffectsInc 5 лет назад

Same cables will work

@tastjohn1889 5 лет назад

Many thanks bro, really appreciate your help, God bless..

@AlanJWatkins 5 лет назад

Great video. Honestly don't know why I watched it though.... My entire set up is Les Paul -> overdrive -> Marshall.

@VertexEffectsInc 5 лет назад

Alan hahah! Hanna’s did watching nonetheless

@paulbradshawguitar 5 лет назад

awesome little rig =) the MS-3 even has decent drive/boost sections to be honest, i originally got it thinking i'd use various analog drives in the loops, ended up just keeping one overdrive pedal before the MS-3 and using some of the boosts/overdrive in the MS-3 for a bit more drive, adding a separate reverb and delay at the end instead, given the size of the unit and low power requirements (280ma) it's one of my favourite pedals of the last few years, a solid multifx/modular bypass looper/controller/midi

@VertexEffectsInc 5 лет назад

Paul B I had more trouble with the drive tones than I expected, but loved the delay, modulation, and reverbs! Still a great unit all in all!

@paulbradshawguitar 5 лет назад

yeah there's further tweaks to make them sound better but ends up taking an extra FX1 slot (add EQ to further shape the tone) i had best luck with the mid boost/clean boost/warm & natural OD, some of the others are fine, but still not quite what your favourite drive pedal can do, which is what the loops are for =) and even there the buffer in the loops doesn't always play nicely with drive pedals and especially certain fuzzes, but again still the beauty of the MS-3 being so modular, you can customise to taste

@ZO5150 5 лет назад

Just came across the channel, totally digging it! Any recommendations on a pedalboard amp? Quilter, Powerstage, ISP? Looking at possibly setting up a rig capable of doing High on Fire and Mastodon tones with just a board and a cab. Thanks! Great channel!

@VertexEffectsInc 5 лет назад

Mark Alonzo I like the Quilter Interblock for that!

@geo5772 2 года назад

Mason I’ll show you my PCB/6X if you show me yours! I’m in mental flux over this topic each day. But…I’m doing it, however as usual you’ve raised issues that make me realize that laying down a board that’s so tight that I can’t change things up with audition loops, even pedal swap out is not my goal but this build is close. For my own it would likely to be a bIt more spacious, wiring less tightly tied down (but still neat and tidy). It’s going to use quite a few analog MIDI controlled multi effects pedals which will serve as the “base” from which to springboard. Specialty pedals in loops, MIDI controlled pedals “after” the PBC/6X (A concept you brought to my attention…so logical Dr. , so logical!) I’m now in the process of sitting down, not with soldering iron, or even tape for sizing, but pen and paper to simply jot down thoughts. Best to you MSquared! Thanks as usual.

@VertexEffectsInc 2 года назад

Thanks for watching!

@JoshuaPritchardblogtohealth 5 лет назад

Would you ever consider solderless cables? Because they're smaller wouldn't you be able to save heaps more space as well?

@VertexEffectsInc 5 лет назад

They’re not really smaller, very minimal - and the trade off results in a high probability of failure. Even if they were appreciably smaller the reliability for a professional rig would be comprised greatly by going solderless, plus you control the cable you use for the system.

@emcg.9655 5 лет назад

@@VertexEffectsInc I'm pretty sure Dan from gig rig uses solderless cables. I tried them and they failed several times during a gig. Never again.

@arite8549 5 лет назад

Ewan Mcgowan Dan uses Evidence Audio SIS with a solid core cable on all his boards. I’ve never used them but supposedly the solid core cable is the difference maker.

@VertexEffectsInc 5 лет назад

Ewan Mcgowan solderless has come a long way, but in my view it’s really a consumer level product, not what the pros are using that really make a living at this that count on a rig to last for years of trouble free use - i.e. Robert Bradshaw (CAE), Dave Friedman (Racksystems), Xacttone, Nic Rack Canada, etc. I’ve never seen a system with anything but hardwired cables. You may have some flexibility in cables with some solderless varieties, but it would be diameter dependent no matter what. Solid core I don’t advise for pedalboards. It doesn’t bend well or do well with hard break angles, and is more susceptible to breaks compared to stranded.

@emcg.9655 5 лет назад

@@VertexEffectsInc thanks for the insight. I agree completely. When you are playing in any kind of professional capacity, when there is a fee involved, you simply cannot take the risk of a solderless cable going bad.

@askehikrogh7016 4 года назад

Hey Mason. I've been following you in the making of pedalboards for a year or so now, and it's sooooo nice. I'm thinking of building this kind of pedalboard with the switcher and the bridge. Do you have the dimensions or the blueprint of the pedalbridge. Also, where can I find a wirering chart of a interface like the one you build in the video?

@AdamSJarrett 5 лет назад

Is everything running into the MS3? So in other words, can you click on the MS3 to activate the Tube Screamer? Great video and great production quality!

@VertexEffectsInc 5 лет назад

Adam Jarrett yep you use the MS-3 as the controller for all the pedals except the Tuner and the Katana which are outside the MS-3

@ebo838e 5 лет назад

Do you have a layout for your interface.

@VertexEffectsInc 5 лет назад

ebo838e We’re gonna be doing a video on it hopefully this month, I’ll show how I do both the mono and stereo passive versions.

@johnnyrussler5534 5 лет назад

Is there a way I can send you a pic of my pedals and you can suggest? Plus, I need a nice hard pedal board case. Thanks!

@VertexEffectsInc 5 лет назад

Johnny, post a link here. I really like the Pelican Air cases!

@NoCoverCharge 3 года назад

the secret is the better the TUBE amp the less pedals you need....sorry but digital axe homer line campers sound lame...

@VertexEffectsInc 3 года назад

Tubes are always preferable IMO!

@jfsiqueira7813 3 года назад

Great vid, Mason! Thanx. It looks tempting to pick up a MS-3 to reduce the pedalboar. One important question: do my favorite analog overdrives and distortion become digitized when passing thorugh the MS-3? The sound seems a little "plasticized".

@VertexEffectsInc 3 года назад

Not any more than any ADA conversion

@buzzwashere1 3 года назад

Been using an MS-3 for several years now and just love the flexibility. I use 4-cable method with a Boogie V:35. MS-3 controls a Voodoo Labs channel switcher via midi. Boost and distortion in the loops (as sugg'd in video) hitting the front of the amp, and the time-based effects in the MS-3 through the amp's effects loop. Still, thinking about replacing with an ES-8. But for a small board and cover-band duties this unit can't be beat.

@VertexEffectsInc 3 года назад

It's a good device no doubt!

@RobertNolan 5 лет назад

Hindsight, but I would have placed the tuner on the bottom and the Katana up top so I could access that side knob better.

@VertexEffectsInc 5 лет назад

It was all considered - this worked best for Zach’s workflow.

@RobertNolan 5 лет назад

@@VertexEffectsInc what ever works best for him I suppose

@VertexEffectsInc 5 лет назад

Robert Nolan ultimately we’re beholden to the customer

@wannaberockgod9474 5 лет назад

That’s a nice board! I considered the ms3 a while ago to shrink my board. Mine is pretty big but when you break it down Ive not got much more than this but with a Flashback x4 and mobius It really does add up.

@VertexEffectsInc 5 лет назад

It’ll cut down if you’ll let it. Not much it won’t do, just put in your quality drive and distortion pedals and you’re ready to go!

@redcomn 5 лет назад

Somehow i got confuse hooking up my pedalboard with ms-3 and two boss sy-1. The parallel loop on sy-1 really made me confuse a bit so i really need to reconsider on what layouy i wanna commit first. Loop one got miku and jhs at+ tho.

@VertexEffectsInc 5 лет назад

Good luck!

@stefankihlgren7444 5 лет назад

Oh, fuck yes, that Huff track in the background! 😍 Awesome video, as always!

@VertexEffectsInc 5 лет назад

Stefan Kihlgren thanks for watching! Be sure to subscribe for more like this!

@davemarshall9153 5 лет назад

Does the ms3 go from analog to digital and then digital back to analog through the effects loops?

@VertexEffectsInc 5 лет назад

David Marshall I haven’t investigated the specifics of the ADA conversion, I’m sure there are specifics listed in their manual - pretty sure in the diagram it’s all analog path that’s relay switched for all the loops.

@AdamMason 4 года назад

If I currently have all analog pedals, would I be best suited in putting all of them in loop switcher? Then program different combos of the pedals through the switcher?

@VertexEffectsInc 4 года назад

It depends if your goal is just to consolidate the signal path or if you want to be able to bring in multiple effects at the same time

@veerchasm1 5 лет назад

“Dozens of pedals...” hold my beer 🍺

@enzonuestro1721 5 лет назад

I was going to make a board like this but I’m now looking to getting rid of my amp and getting the hx stomp and incorporate my pedalboard with it instead

@VertexEffectsInc 5 лет назад

Very cool! Those are very flexible

@mspguitars6740 5 лет назад

I think you could do a video just showing the interface build in detail.

@VertexEffectsInc 5 лет назад

Working on one now, hope to have it out this month!

@RileyTech 4 года назад

What was the height of the Fix bridge you used?

@VertexEffectsInc 4 года назад

Don’t recall, I base it on the power supply height or highest pedal under it

@kentonschroer2347 5 лет назад

Why not an HX unit? HX effects or HX Stomp?

@VertexEffectsInc 5 лет назад

Kenton Schroer Those are certainly alternatives, and viable ones at that. I think the user interface is a little bit it’s more simplified on the MS three, I also think the ability to have three analog petals that can be oriented in the position was a benefit, my impression is that Line 6 allows for two external pedals - Which for most of us would be fine, but I know that Zach wanted to maximize the number of external devices that he could mix and match, or re-order it in a way he found appropriate