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Small Tier Set Nerfs (and Compensation Buffs) coming Next Week 

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@Sargaxiist2022
@Sargaxiist2022 9 дней назад
Put more power into the class and less into tier sets. Tier sets should be gameplay altering (i understand 1st tier needs to be boring to let hero talents breathe) But yeah, if its not gameplay altering, then it should be weak. That way you dont get turbo boned by not having 4pc.
@tyrgannusgaming6657
@tyrgannusgaming6657 9 дней назад
My hot take is that I always want a weak tier set bonus because I'd rather have my class tuned in context of a weak bonus than a strong one. Tuning around a strong tier set just feels troll until you get your 4-piece
@dratnos
@dratnos 9 дней назад
Yeah agreed - especially if the set bonus isn't fun gameplay and is just "X ability does Y% more damage"
@Bigjohn2121
@Bigjohn2121 9 дней назад
Right, I usually like tier sets that allow you to change the playstyle a bit but not be mandatory.
@nathanbiggs96
@nathanbiggs96 9 дней назад
Also then when you lose the set bonus going into the next tier and your spec plays like dog water
@Jarikk1195
@Jarikk1195 9 дней назад
​@nathanbiggs96 that's my least favorite things with tier in the last 2 expacs. Fun in the moment, but losing class fluidity from good specs that don't get baked in else where is sooooooooo turbo ass
@christopherneil8265
@christopherneil8265 9 дней назад
Oh yeah, like ele the last two tiers. You didn’t have 4 piece? Enjoy not being able to play your spec, bud
@alteration1545
@alteration1545 8 дней назад
Thanks for the quick, to the point, video and not making it 8 mins for reasons. You’re the man!
@Ryan-xs9px
@Ryan-xs9px 8 дней назад
Thank you for putting these patch notes in the context of all in which you live and what came before you
@beastlyshotzful
@beastlyshotzful 9 дней назад
Pretty sure this is a buff to enhancement at least for elementalist build. Those spells are less than ten percent of your damage. Nerf them 8% that equates to a .8% nerf and then a 2% buff. This should be around a 1.2% increase.
@giorno9840
@giorno9840 6 дней назад
Yeah all of your damage comes from Lightning Bolt and Tempest anyway
@thebigler
@thebigler 9 дней назад
war wtihin stormstrike elemantalist enhance shaman spec is very hard to master to get close to sim #'s. When enhance is played perfectly, sure, but its hard to consistantly make the right choice when building and spending and procs create its own tree branch of new rotation priority. enhance is less squishy with stonebulk work totem, but still can be squishy if not pre popping defensives...Even if it is near top dps on single target, it is not a spec most can pick up part way through a season and can perform to sim #'s. I hope blizz considers this during tuning, the apm and unqiue keybind amount should have some payoff imo.
@angrygun7826
@angrygun7826 9 дней назад
How do you know when someone plays enhance
@Kmaitland89
@Kmaitland89 9 дней назад
Considering sims are incredibly unreliable, I’m not sure why we even compare to them.
@Chieftain01
@Chieftain01 9 дней назад
@@Kmaitland89 we compare to them mostly to see what's possible and what's a damage increase when you play something correctly. trinkets, stats, tier sets, talents, Hero talents. they all need some possible way to compare what is worse so we create the Action Priority LIst APL for short so players know what buttons they need to press. that gets put into the Simulations so we can get a rough Idea of how well talents do without putting User Error into the Equation but alot of the times User Error is a heavy nerf to the amount of damage a class can do. but I'm fine knowing that something is a upgrade or if an item is only a bit worse but Feels easier and funner to use I can know it's close enough that I'll perform better using this. Sims are a tool not something to aspire to.
@Rampancy_
@Rampancy_ 8 дней назад
Hard to play doest mean more damage, it doesnt work like that in wow
@Orthus100
@Orthus100 7 дней назад
Yup, sims, especially sim comparisons are always a mixed bag precisely because people forget the difficulty for a human and for a computer are very different. The more reactionary you need to be, the harder it is to get to optimal vs specs that need lots of planning but have little variance. Elementalist Stormbringer has both a need of careful planning of skills and also an ability to react to four or more procs that upend that planning.
@rayray0987
@rayray0987 9 дней назад
Imagine the 5s cooldown reduction on eternity surge was making scalecommander bombardment uptime way too high.
@Patrizio99
@Patrizio99 9 дней назад
Great vid Dratnos!
@JetLagRecords
@JetLagRecords 9 дней назад
Dratnos, I cant stop watching your videos!
@Dantarn
@Dantarn 9 дней назад
I think there's a nice balance that needs to be done with Class power and tier power. It does stink to have a lot of your power in the Tier when you don't have 4-piece but if the tier is too weak/underwhelming then it makes getting 4-piece not feel nearly as good as it should. Right now the Unholy Tier Set looks like the rawest definition of 'Meh whatever' and that's a real shame
@rosco3
@rosco3 9 дней назад
For blood we have bone shield spending abilities so I don't think this is an overall nerf, or not a significant one. Staying at 11/12 probably does not have that high of an uptime
@slaintwice
@slaintwice 9 дней назад
3:06 has bean
@kiwi5891
@kiwi5891 8 дней назад
meanwhile outlaw 4piece is a 1.3% dmg gain
@DerNesor
@DerNesor 9 дней назад
The already inconsequential tier sets get nerfed?
@vortexfury7197
@vortexfury7197 7 дней назад
Hello Dratnos my name is everybody
@doublerockslide2403
@doublerockslide2403 9 дней назад
Hi Dratnos !!!
@onkek
@onkek 9 дней назад
Watch blizzard absolutely forget they baseline buffed these classes and S2 will have some sort of reversion way too late because of it.
@ZeXexe013
@ZeXexe013 9 дней назад
It’s a .6% buff to unholy
@kirax7293
@kirax7293 9 дней назад
How are the dk changes even nerfs? 5% damage being upfront instead of tier set locked on both unholy and blood is insane
@MatPandaZ
@MatPandaZ 9 дней назад
It's shifting the power away from the tier set and making the classes less relient on getting 4 set before having a chance at competing vs other classes.
@iltoro9400
@iltoro9400 9 дней назад
DH need more of a % buffed, underperforming af with no other spec to default to
@davidw.5984
@davidw.5984 9 дней назад
Dude guess you didnt saw sims yet but havoc is a top spec
@wardeagle1015
@wardeagle1015 9 дней назад
This guy.. Havoc is simming top 5 of the charts...
@baris9444
@baris9444 9 дней назад
We getting another mage dominant tier if they keep ignoring it (since day 1 of beta)...
@Kmaitland89
@Kmaitland89 9 дней назад
Uh, what?
@baris9444
@baris9444 9 дней назад
@@Kmaitland89 wdym what ? Arcane is almost untouched since day 1 of beta and overperforming a lot. Do you think last weeks 2% nerf changed anything ?
@birdog23
@birdog23 9 дней назад
yep the world first groups can just stack arcane mages since they are broken op
@tryptic1120
@tryptic1120 9 дней назад
But arcane mages got a massive nerf last reset. What are you talking about? The double dipping is gone, they nerfed some dmg. The double dipping was such a big part of their stupid dmg
@baris9444
@baris9444 9 дней назад
@@tryptic1120 All that translated into 2% overall damage. Turns out double dipping isnt the problem lol
@frededy4
@frededy4 9 дней назад
Nothing burger is a nothing burger
@Kmaitland89
@Kmaitland89 9 дней назад
It’s blows my mind how inaccurate sims are yet, we take them as absolute truths.
@flamingstrike1
@flamingstrike1 9 дней назад
nothin for warrior yet again
@brandonholsonback2468
@brandonholsonback2468 9 дней назад
I dont mind, Warriors feel really good right now IMO. Rather stay off radar :P
@gentle_singularity
@gentle_singularity 9 дней назад
Yeah they need a nerf.
@Mentok211
@Mentok211 9 дней назад
Colossus should make me 10% B I G G A
@brandonholsonback2468
@brandonholsonback2468 9 дней назад
@@gentle_singularity shhhhhhhhhhhh
@brandonholsonback2468
@brandonholsonback2468 9 дней назад
@@Mentok211 make it 25%
@williamo9878
@williamo9878 9 дней назад
Why they don’t nerf arcane mage also , shamys are never on top of the dps charts
@Pat1711
@Pat1711 9 дней назад
Didn't they recently nerf arcane, was it not enough?
@Narium413
@Narium413 9 дней назад
@@Pat1711 a big fat 3% nerf
@WorgenDeath
@WorgenDeath 9 дней назад
@@Pat1711 They are still at the top and quite far ahead of the average but only barely ahead of the number 2 (which rn is outlaw rogue) the average damage across all dps specs for a 5 minute sim is about 1.42m~ , arcane is at 1.58m~ outlaw at 1.56m~ and at the other end you have balance at 1.26m~ and destro at 1.31m~. these are sims for having 4pc and perfect gear at the end of this tier.
@d4mephisto
@d4mephisto 9 дней назад
Are those single target or cleave sims? ​@@WorgenDeath
@angrygun7826
@angrygun7826 9 дней назад
​@@Pat1711shamans are so onnoxious all they do is cry
@iltoro9400
@iltoro9400 9 дней назад
I am waiting for: augmentation to be gutted, mage/frost dk/warr to be heavily nerfed
@caseywoods6647
@caseywoods6647 9 дней назад
Why warrior? They have dogshit utility and a useless tier set
@pookapookyoyo3095
@pookapookyoyo3095 8 дней назад
dev nerfs?? what???
@8735Anthony
@8735Anthony 7 дней назад
fr im tired of it
@caseywoods6647
@caseywoods6647 9 дней назад
Absolutely pointless warrior tier set goes untuned as always
@peterpain6625
@peterpain6625 9 дней назад
VDH still needs their damage, armor and self heal halved to be acceptable.
@cottoncandylol7175
@cottoncandylol7175 9 дней назад
?
@1995Kasimir
@1995Kasimir 9 дней назад
the set bonuses are so underwhelming this time
@TommyMcD
@TommyMcD 9 дней назад
Awful balancing. Where's the compensation for the paying customers. Why are we paying for bad service? Hold blizzard accountable, speak up, and demand better. Wow community has been too complacent accepting this awful service. Free games don't treat players this badly.
@iamme625
@iamme625 8 дней назад
You really hate blizzard, don't you?
@sjwhater
@sjwhater 9 дней назад
they keep fkng enhancement lol. You can never havae fun with that spec. What a brainrotted dev team
@konekopon2865
@konekopon2865 9 дней назад
It's been good the entirety of DF and is also fine now, I think your brainrot reached your eyes and now you see it everywhere
@Pickleandrepeat
@Pickleandrepeat 9 дней назад
Bruh this is so dumbbb. We are playing and paying for an unfinished gamee. We are still in beta and never making it out… zzzzz. It would make sense if this game was FREE TO PLAY. But we frickin pay for this, unacceptable.
@vocnys
@vocnys 9 дней назад
Wdym we are still in beta
@Pickleandrepeat
@Pickleandrepeat 9 дней назад
@@vocnys beta, ptr, whatever u wanna call it, testing phase for blizzard never ending. And they not knowing what number values to use…
@peterpain6625
@peterpain6625 9 дней назад
@@vocnys As if wow ever leaves beta.
@SkidogMedia
@SkidogMedia 9 дней назад
First expansion lol? Its called a live service game
@konekopon2865
@konekopon2865 9 дней назад
yeah other games never have balance changes, and neither should wow. (i can't tell if you're actually mentally deficient saying this or not)
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